Would he want exclusive use of a corner of the flag for his lifetime?

I would also say turnout was not significantly motivated by interest in the new…

Naturally.

Looked at this way (engagement compared to the general election) Māori electorates could either be described as much more negative than expected given the level of engagement, or much more engaged than expected…

And one for Graeme Edgeler: what risk of getting sued for this?

– The Māori electorate flag turn seems to be up slightly (or rather, down less) when compared to where it might be expected to be if it was down by the same amount as general electorates…

Yes, and if you remove the relationship between National party support and support for changing the flag, then there is no relationship between flag change and political party support

I've put graphs for all the parties, and an explanation of…

Hopefully that indicates Nicky Wagner's exit from the electorate next year...

Very much so, looking at the regression graphs of electorate party support and flag voting.

Let's try for the Hundertwasser next time

Current flag 56.6%
Key Lockwood 43.2%

:- )

A suitable…

Seems you are not alone...
Trust me, this KKK endorsement claim Zippy wants everyone to believe in, is about as accurate as that comic book Bible he likes to likes to hold in his hand

Can't decide if I mean D.W. Griffith or Bill Griffith

http://www.elections.org.nz/events/referendums-new-zealand-flag-0/voting-second-referendum/voting-statistics

Yes.

What I really mean is I want things to be done properly, not the half-arsed, rushed, botched up nonsense this government is so good at.

Oh, but wait, you then say:

It has been quite a number of decades since people have been happy to leave…

I suspect you are thinking of places and possessions rather than people, those inconvenient things that societies are built from.
Beings tend to need a semblance of order so as to understand the accepted reality of their culture, chaos,…

It all comes back down to process. Last year, those of us who favour change said, let's ask first whether…

not yet, under this govt. Still racking it up in our names.

Thing is, there's always more money on this scale. If that's the argument, then why didn't we spend another $26 million on hip operations?…

I don't know the guy from Adam so I wouldn't say that Matthew. I am saying that his rhetoric struggles to qualify as journalism.

sometimes not often tho' ;-

messy societies

Are easier for the unscrupulous to turn a profit
And theres a few of those floating around in NZ at the mo'

It's hard to view it any other way Tom. While we expect patsies like Hosking & Henry and the usual Nat fanboys to promote the PM's preferred choice of flag, a whole pile of b-grade celebs…

It seems like a very trivial thing to agonise over in the context of everything that our nation's columnists could be writing about. But that's been this entire circus since its beginning.

Something about your comment suggests that you…

You're aware we're living in a post-Somme/ post-Gallipoli political environment? It has been quite a number of decades since people have been happy to leave decisions to the experts, especially questions of national identity.…

But only after a long, thorough, and properly consultative process in which all the issues, especially the place of the Treaty in the new republic, are properly thrashed out and the best possible new constitution drawn up, then…

The thing about good design is it's like a good waiter (and cooks) – you should never really be aware of them, as they just unobtrusively do what…

Isn't that what the referendum is demanding, or meh not so much for you?

Since far more people will see this than an election day tweet, we can look forward to Jim Parsons getting a visit from the NZ police.

New Zealanders aren't asked (and don't have the opportunity) to swear allegiance to the flag.

Many (new citizens, MPs, police officers, military personnel, judges ... and in theory teachers) are required to swear allegiance…

Essentially, the "typography community" is a "guild" that has developed a set of rules or schema as to what is regarded as "correct". This schema is akin to the laws of rugby, chess or…

A big difference is that the Canadian flag passes the test of “less is more”, as do…

Yes; I didn't like the Lockwood designs particularly and I strongly resent the way the PM has appeared to be gaming the process, but the first time I saw fabric versions of the old flag and the black Lockwood flying side by side my overwhelming reaction…

On that, I have a legal question. Does the New Zealand Flag Referendums Act bind the government to carrying…

Beyond sportsing, I don't see it getting much use either. But then I just do not care about flegs myself. Never have. Like our Ben, I won't be…

If informal votes are counted as part of total votes cast then I would vote informal. That makes it a 3 way vote. If >50% is informal that says stick it up ya jacksy.

But there is one thing I must disagree with. You write:

"...but Kyle Lockwood’s fern design has been a popular alternative flag for quite some time."

In all the public events I have been to in New Zealand in 30 years of living…

I respect all the arguments against it and I would probably vote against it if I…

there has been so much dancing around on the flag referenda, too many took seriously what was was only poked in fun by the PM; uncoupled from the republican debate this has been an attempted textbook manufacturing consent exercise for a rebranding…

That's part of the trouble with the Lockwood/Weetbix design – it's more than a little…

The question "is this flag any…

True this. We also could have had some truly…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v7XXSt9XRM

Just to link to the obvious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlcngdW2Ju4

There have been complaints about the flag consideration and referendum process. There are other ways we could have done it (I supported one at the select committee) but this is fair way of doing…