Public Address | Cafe | Legal Beagle: New Zealand rockets up the anti-Corruption ratings: a non-Spinoff investigation https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/ en-us Copyright (c) 2026 Public Address Graeme Edgeler https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-new-zealand-rockets-up-the-anti/?p=370215#post370215 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-new-zealand-rockets-up-the-anti/?p=370215#post370215 Incidentally, about 8% (depending on how you round it) of the movement in countries from 2015 to 2016 was caused by the inclusion of a new source.

I knew there'd be a bunch of extra things going on in there :-)

]]> Thu, 02 Feb 2017 17:58:36 +1300 David Hood https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-new-zealand-rockets-up-the-anti/?p=370157#post370157 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-new-zealand-rockets-up-the-anti/?p=370157#post370157 Incidentally, about 8% (depending on how you round it) of the movement in countries from 2015 to 2016 was caused by the inclusion of a new source.

Some R code:
https://github.com/thoughtfulbloke/transparency/blob/master/transparency.R

]]> Tue, 31 Jan 2017 12:02:31 +1300 Joe Wylie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-new-zealand-rockets-up-the-anti/?p=370150#post370150 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-new-zealand-rockets-up-the-anti/?p=370150#post370150 These rankings invite complacency and self-congratulation. We have little reason to be complacent.

Too true. It's more than a little reminiscent of that brief fool's paradise atmosphere that existed following the Christchurch quake of September 2010, when NZ's "first world" regulatory standards were touted as having saved us from the…

]]> Tue, 31 Jan 2017 09:53:20 +1300 Rob Stowell https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-new-zealand-rockets-up-the-anti/?p=370148#post370148 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-new-zealand-rockets-up-the-anti/?p=370148#post370148 Dirty Politics, Panama papers, various scandals around political contributions have failed to move the 'perception'?
These rankings invite complacency and self-congratulation. We have little reason to be complacent.

]]> Tue, 31 Jan 2017 09:15:33 +1300 David Hood https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-new-zealand-rockets-up-the-anti/?p=370147#post370147 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-new-zealand-rockets-up-the-anti/?p=370147#post370147 I’m not sure if it is more biased towards business POV.

for generating the relative placing of countries between sources, they are imputing against the sources with more that 50% country coverage. So the most important sources, in order, are:

Global Insight Country Risk Ratings (covers all countries) 176 coverage…

]]> Tue, 31 Jan 2017 08:44:27 +1300 Lynn Yum https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-new-zealand-rockets-up-the-anti/?p=370146#post370146 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-new-zealand-rockets-up-the-anti/?p=370146#post370146 I'm not sure if it is more biased towards business POV. TI's index is like meta index. Three of the source indexes are: Political Risk Services, World Justice Project and The Bertelsmann Foundation, which are statedly not catering to business but academics, the general public and governments.

I think it…

]]> Mon, 30 Jan 2017 13:17:24 +1300 izogi https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-new-zealand-rockets-up-the-anti/?p=370144#post370144 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-new-zealand-rockets-up-the-anti/?p=370144#post370144 I wouldn't say this index is "stupid", but I always thought TI's report is pretty much a PR exercise because it is a PERCEPTION index, not a measure of actual corruption.

From past surveys I was sure I'd read somewhere that it was built from journalists' input and perceptions, which…

]]> Mon, 30 Jan 2017 07:29:47 +1300 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-new-zealand-rockets-up-the-anti/?p=370140#post370140 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-new-zealand-rockets-up-the-anti/?p=370140#post370140 The incompetence of the police

Have they ever successfully prosecuted anyone under the Electoral Act? Seem to wimp out every time I've seen.

]]> Sun, 29 Jan 2017 20:25:46 +1300 Lynn Yum https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-new-zealand-rockets-up-the-anti/?p=370139#post370139 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-new-zealand-rockets-up-the-anti/?p=370139#post370139 I wouldn't say this index is "stupid", but I always thought TI's report is pretty much a PR exercise because it is a PERCEPTION index, not a measure of actual corruption. I'm sure the lower ranked countries are really corrupted, but perception and reality can come apart.

This is from…

]]> Sun, 29 Jan 2017 20:22:14 +1300 LeighKennaway https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-new-zealand-rockets-up-the-anti/?p=370138#post370138 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-new-zealand-rockets-up-the-anti/?p=370138#post370138 Now back to sports news

Apparently Richie McCaw was asked to comment, but he is still away on honeymoon.

]]> Sun, 29 Jan 2017 11:30:07 +1300 Graeme Edgeler https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-new-zealand-rockets-up-the-anti/?p=370137#post370137 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-new-zealand-rockets-up-the-anti/?p=370137#post370137 And when that opposition party was National, and its leader was Don Brash, they called Helen Clark’s government “corrupt” (not implied it, but explicitly said it). When it was pointed out that NZ was top of the very same world rankings (and it was) they said “oops, our bad” …… ]]> Sun, 29 Jan 2017 01:11:29 +1300 Thomas Lumley https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-new-zealand-rockets-up-the-anti/?p=370136#post370136 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-new-zealand-rockets-up-the-anti/?p=370136#post370136 Although I suspect it gives lie to Transparency International’s outline of the results as shocking because so many countries score below 50:

I'm going to partly disagree with David Hood and agree with Graeme here. The standardisation doesn't guarantee that a lot of countries will be below 50, but it…

]]> Sat, 28 Jan 2017 18:59:21 +1300 David Hood https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-new-zealand-rockets-up-the-anti/?p=370131#post370131 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-new-zealand-rockets-up-the-anti/?p=370131#post370131 Without actually going and looking at any of the data (so putting in considerably less work than Graeme) I would focus on

Although I suspect it gives lie to Transparency International’s outline of the results as shocking because so many countries score below 50

It does not give lie- It…

]]> Sat, 28 Jan 2017 14:37:25 +1300 simon g https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-new-zealand-rockets-up-the-anti/?p=370129#post370129 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-new-zealand-rockets-up-the-anti/?p=370129#post370129 NZ is near the top of the World rankings with regard to anti corruption which is good and the alternative view pushed by the “Standard” and Bomber is bollocks!

The opinions of fringe bloggers don’t mean much at all. The views of the leader of the opposition matter a good…

]]> Sat, 28 Jan 2017 12:22:47 +1300 Joe Wylie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-new-zealand-rockets-up-the-anti/?p=370127#post370127 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-new-zealand-rockets-up-the-anti/?p=370127#post370127 There is no corruption in New Zealand
We can all keep perfectly calm...

]]> Sat, 28 Jan 2017 08:36:06 +1300 andin https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-new-zealand-rockets-up-the-anti/?p=370126#post370126 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-new-zealand-rockets-up-the-anti/?p=370126#post370126 these sorts of rankings are stupid anyway
very good analysis from the laymans point of view ie me.
All I heard was a mild bit of nationalistic horn blowing and once over, really lightly, in MSM and then it disappeared. Which I guess is all, they decided, the general readership…

]]> Sat, 28 Jan 2017 08:34:00 +1300 Ian Dalziel https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-new-zealand-rockets-up-the-anti/?p=370125#post370125 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-new-zealand-rockets-up-the-anti/?p=370125#post370125 Thiel be right mate!
– it's the Kiwi way...

]]> Sat, 28 Jan 2017 08:23:18 +1300 linger https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-new-zealand-rockets-up-the-anti/?p=370116#post370116 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-new-zealand-rockets-up-the-anti/?p=370116#post370116 Fri, 27 Jan 2017 21:31:23 +1300 Raymond A Francis https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-new-zealand-rockets-up-the-anti/?p=370112#post370112 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-new-zealand-rockets-up-the-anti/?p=370112#post370112 Well it doesn't really matter which way you choose to dice the cake, NZ is near the top of the World rankings with regard to anti corruption which is good and the alternative view pushed by the "Standard" and Bomber is bollocks!
Hurrah, unicorns all round.

]]> Fri, 27 Jan 2017 20:06:53 +1300 Public Address https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-new-zealand-rockets-up-the-anti/?p=370111#post370111 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-new-zealand-rockets-up-the-anti/?p=370111#post370111 Discussion from blog post.

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