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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						I have now updated the post with a link to the Electoral Commission's decision. If you look at the final section, you may see why I consider a full prosecution unlikely. To me, it reads like the Electoral Commission is telling the police that they considered this minor enough that…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:14:22 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<q>Maybe so. But they didn’t do that. And so the BSA quite clearly decided, on their interpretation of s.69, that this just wasn’t an “Election Programme” as per the Broadcasting Act. Which is the complete opposite view to the Electoral Commission. So, with respect, you can’t say that the BSA…</q>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 18:52:02 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>Point being, the fact two different bodies asking the same question came to different answers indicates that there's no real clear right or wrong answer here.</q></p><p>And if S. 69 of the Broadcasting Act is ambiguous it's hardly the fault of either the BSA or the Electoral Commission, since they…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 17:41:43 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Andrew Geddis</title>
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						<p>"The BSA decision is available here. You will note they adopt the definition in section 69, without mentioning that their jurisdiction arises out of section 21, and that they should therefore be assessing whether the programme was "broadcast under Part 6"."</p><p>Maybe so. But they didn't do that. And so…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 17:00:56 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<p><q>Not clear to me what time limit is. Am i being dim?</q></p><p>No. In my somewhat hurry, I didn't say. Any prosecution must be laid within six months of the broadcast.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:20:57 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Toby</title>
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						Not clear to me what time limit <em>is</em>.  Am i being dim?
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				<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:06:49 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p><q>This wasn't advertising content, over which a broadcaster exercises limited control (they have a veto, but don't really edit it)</q></p><p>I thought a lot of radio advertising was produced inhouse by the broadcaster that transmits it?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 14:59:22 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<p>I was asked for a clarification on the different definitions of election programme, and why the BSA and EC came to different conclusions, it seems sensible to copy my reply over:</p><p><q>I didn't want to get into it in my post, but I think while the BSA came to the…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 14:51:40 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>NZ on ear...</strong><br /><q>An hour hosted by the PM, but otherwise involving exactly what they’d normally be doing...</q><br />effectively an "aural billboard" I'd have thought...</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 14:32:34 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>merc</title>
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						<p><q>Thanks for a very clear elucidation.</q><br />Me too. On the "out" clause,<br />Oh what a tangled web we weave...</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 14:19:34 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<p>Having now received a copy of the (still embargoed) decision, there seems one other point to usefully note about the difference between the Electoral Act and the Broadcasting Act:</p><p>__while both set up a process whereby the Electoral Commission acts as an initial screener of complaints, the Electoral Act allows…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 14:17:48 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						Thanks for a very clear elucidation. I am appreciative of your attempts to explain this on Kiwibog as well, though I do wonder why you bother ;-)
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				<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 14:13:26 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Public Address</title>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 14:13:26 +1300</pubDate>
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