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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The fact is that to be able to keep secrets you sometimes have to lie. Maybe they thought his bullshit was a good thing.</p></blockquote><p>Steve, that's assuming it was something of which the SIS were even aware. I'd say it's about 50:50 as to whether or not that's the case,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sept 2010 16:06:22 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<blockquote>Security vetting isn't a test of "Can they do the job?" it's a test of "Can we trust them with secrets?" You don't have to be a saint to get a clearance,  </blockquote>The fact is that to be able to keep secrets you sometimes have to lie. Maybe they thought…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sept 2010 13:22:02 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p>More competence on <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10673523" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">display</a>.</p><blockquote><p>Now NZPA sources have revealed the company behind Mr Wilce's recruitment &ndash; Momentum Consulting &ndash; also selected an unqualified woman to work as an accountant for a Wellington business group.</p><p>...</p><p>The woman has been convicted and is awaiting sentencing.</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sept 2010 12:14:52 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<blockquote><p>what about the former Head Defence Scientist? My guess is that his CV simply listed his military service and sporting interests, and he put the gloss on about being James Bond verbally, in interview.</p></blockquote><p>One thing that doesn't seem to have been spelled out to (or possibly by) the media…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sept 2010 10:33:27 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Victoria Beck</title>
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						What's the bet that it will all come out in the wash and the outcome will be to maintain institutional respectability, given the CJ is involved too?  Power wins out. There's the journo wife of the QC Curruthers doing great PR, using the "Herald", NZ's powerful organ, to manipulate our…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sept 2010 19:56:28 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>H-Bomb</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I do note that Judge Therrien's disclosure failure was not with respect to a case, but in his application to be a judge (the arguable bit being that the conviction he didn't disclose had been expunged/clean-slated).</p></blockquote><p>Yes, but I think that makes it less serious because the Therrien non-disclosure did…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sept 2010 14:04:08 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<blockquote><p>what about the former Head Defence Scientist? My guess is that his CV simply listed his military service and sporting interests, and he put the gloss on about being James Bond verbally, in interview.</p></blockquote><p>And my guess with Mary-Anne Thompson was that some HR/PR type person had prepared an information…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sept 2010 13:56:27 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>Term deposits, government bonds, maybe tracker funds are ways to maintain ones wealth without conflicts of interest. Many ordinary jobs forbid one from having side-businesses, you know.</p><p>Surely when someone is employed by the people in a prestigious and lucrative position we're entitled to full attention.</p><p>Off topic, what about…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sept 2010 13:25:54 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It still seems like an old boys (and old girls) network and that Justice Wilson didn't think he needed to announce his conflict of interest in the belief that his peers would understand because they trusted him as a friend as well as a colleague.</p></blockquote><p>Conflicts of interest tend to…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sept 2010 11:55:04 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Earning over 300k would probably put you in a position where you invest it in other ways ; i.e. "business interests".</p></blockquote><p>They would seem to be as good a candidate for blind trusts as MPs, particularly in the area of corporate cases.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sept 2010 11:21:05 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Andre</title>
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						<p>It still seems like an old boys (and old girls) network and that Justice Wilson didn't think he needed to announce his conflict of interest in the belief that his peers would understand because they trusted him as a friend as well as a colleague.<br />You're the lawyer Graeme and…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sept 2010 11:21:01 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>H-Bomb</title>
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						<blockquote><p>This gives the flavour of the type of non-criminal misbehaviour that might get a judge removed from office: conducts manifesting an unfitness to continue in judicial office.</p></blockquote><p>I don't think it really does give the flavour as you have focussed on the more extreme examples (as has Wilson's counsel). The…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sept 2010 11:20:58 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I think Chris Finlayson could have acted sooner and that an MP is going around saying just that.</p></blockquote><p>1. Chris Finlayson shouldn't be acting at all.<br />2. There is nothing he could have done. He can't remove a judge from office or investigate a judge, that's the job of, first,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sept 2010 10:59:17 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Andre</title>
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						<p>They shouldn't have made the guy a Judge in the first place &ndash; that would have been a win for "the system".</p><p>I think Chris Finlayson could have acted sooner and that an MP is going around saying just that.</p><p>There were huge arguments about whether or not to recommend…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sept 2010 10:49:57 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<blockquote><p>an affidavit from wool grower Richard Bell which alleges that National's Kaikoura MP, Colin King, told him that Mr Finlayson would not act against Justice Wilson because they were friends.</p></blockquote><p>Chris Finlayson isn't acting against Justice Wilson. Because the two were partners in law firm Bell Gully, he stepped aside…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sept 2010 10:13:41 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Andre</title>
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						<p>And then there is the fact that Attorney General Chris Finlayson is the object of an affidavid from wool grower Richard Bell which alleges that National's Kaikoura MP, Colin King, told him that Mr Finlayson would not act against Justice Wilson because they were friends.<br />It seems a case of…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sept 2010 09:59:28 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Andre</title>
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						<p>Apparently he's on $410,000 a year. We're mainly paying that much so that we can employ trustworthy Supreme Court judges.<br />We need for justice to be seen to be done. Even if everyone involved had the best intentions their actions seem badly conceived and arrogant &ndash; which disqualifies them from…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sept 2010 09:41:56 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rob S</title>
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						<p>Earning over 300k would probably put you in a position where you invest it in other ways ; i.e. "business interests".<br />If the business did indeed have enough funds to cover any debts to its principals then no one is beholden to anyone else.<br />It looks like a monied litigant…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sept 2010 09:34:30 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						How much does a Supreme Court judge get paid? Something over $300k? One might think that that was enough for them not to need other "business interests" that might get them into difficulties?
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Justice Wilson was indebted to Mr Galbraith by up to $602,000.</p></blockquote><p>Justice Wilson completely denies being indebted to Mr Galbraith. He argues:</p><p>* they were joint shareholders in a company.<br />* neither owed the other anything.<br />* neither owed the company anything, rather:<br />* the company owed them both money;…</p>
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				<title>Ben Austin</title>
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						<p>Thanks for the update. </p><p>I have not seen too much about this in the media, possibly due to the confusing nature of the points being argued. Which is understandable</p>
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				<title>Andre</title>
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						It seems as if he'll be let off but his reputation has been damaged slightly. He should be kicked to touch but those at the top of the legal fraternity are all old mates by the sounds so I fully expect a wet bus ticket to be the weapon of…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sept 2010 03:16:06 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Public Address</title>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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