Public Address | Cafe | Legal Beagle: An update of changes to suicide-reporting law (updated) https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/ en-us Copyright (c) 2026 Public Address Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-an-update-of-changes-to-suicide/?p=360881#post360881 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-an-update-of-changes-to-suicide/?p=360881#post360881 Tue, 17 May 2016 12:59:28 +1200 Pete white https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-an-update-of-changes-to-suicide/?p=360861#post360861 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-an-update-of-changes-to-suicide/?p=360861#post360861 I seem to remember suicides being reported as overtaking car accidents as the leading cause of death for young males quite a while ago …..

But I may have my stats confused as I also seem to recall assults resulting in facial reconstuction surgery overtaking car accidents.as the primary reason…

]]> Mon, 16 May 2016 20:10:55 +1200 Moz https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-an-update-of-changes-to-suicide/?p=360748#post360748 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-an-update-of-changes-to-suicide/?p=360748#post360748 so the populace won't know of deliberate peaceful exits from Life?

Nah, they'll be called "victim-solicited murders" to match the current legal status. Completely different thing.

]]> Fri, 13 May 2016 09:46:42 +1200 Graeme Edgeler https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-an-update-of-changes-to-suicide/?p=360747#post360747 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-an-update-of-changes-to-suicide/?p=360747#post360747 Is this in part an endeavour to counter the End Of Life Choice Bill currently before the Health Select Committee?
– so the populace won’t know of deliberate peaceful exits from Life?

When the law changes, such a death could still be called a suspected suicide, you just couldn't describe…

]]> Fri, 13 May 2016 09:39:29 +1200 Rochelle Wilson https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-an-update-of-changes-to-suicide/?p=360737#post360737 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-an-update-of-changes-to-suicide/?p=360737#post360737 Is this in part an endeavour to counter the End Of Life Choice Bill currently before the Health Select Committee?
– so the populace won't know of deliberate peaceful exits from Life?

]]> Thu, 12 May 2016 16:43:48 +1200 Rich of Observationz https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-an-update-of-changes-to-suicide/?p=360733#post360733 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-an-update-of-changes-to-suicide/?p=360733#post360733 Ah thanks. Though I'm sure there will need to be a bit of scrutiny of books, movies and websites, including the governments own Te Ara in order to purge history of that which must be forgotten.

How does the select committee think that knowing about NZ suicides will cause others…

]]> Thu, 12 May 2016 16:08:08 +1200 Graeme Edgeler https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-an-update-of-changes-to-suicide/?p=360731#post360731 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-an-update-of-changes-to-suicide/?p=360731#post360731 Do we have to refer to the Japanese tactics in WW2 as “high risk aerial strike operations”?

Those will be overseas suicides. The extension of the law to those is the one select committee error that is is being fixed.

]]> Thu, 12 May 2016 15:40:36 +1200 Rich of Observationz https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-an-update-of-changes-to-suicide/?p=360730#post360730 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-an-update-of-changes-to-suicide/?p=360730#post360730 Do we have to refer to the Japanese tactics in WW2 as “high risk aerial strike operations”?

Not to mention what happened to Hitler – I guess children we now be taught that he was alive on the morning of 29th of April and wasn't by the end of the…

]]> Thu, 12 May 2016 15:36:28 +1200 Paul Campbell https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-an-update-of-changes-to-suicide/?p=360715#post360715 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-an-update-of-changes-to-suicide/?p=360715#post360715 Thu, 12 May 2016 10:38:44 +1200 Graeme Edgeler https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-an-update-of-changes-to-suicide/?p=360714#post360714 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-an-update-of-changes-to-suicide/?p=360714#post360714 Interestingly a Dunedin blogger will be in court soon over what may be just this issue, after apparently republishing something she thought was OK.

Based on the article, I would guess it was an allegation of a breach of an actual suppression order (it talks about a "coroner's finding"), but,…

]]> Thu, 12 May 2016 10:33:18 +1200 Paul Campbell https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-an-update-of-changes-to-suicide/?p=360713#post360713 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-an-update-of-changes-to-suicide/?p=360713#post360713 Interestingly a Dunedin blogger will be in court soon over what may be just this issue, after apparently republishing something she thought was OK.

Actually I think that ODT article may itself be possibly in breach of the law, or is at least skirting it extremely closely.

The issue mentioned…

]]> Thu, 12 May 2016 10:29:18 +1200 Graeme Edgeler https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-an-update-of-changes-to-suicide/?p=360711#post360711 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-an-update-of-changes-to-suicide/?p=360711#post360711 I'm concerned because I'm researching suicides by former WWI soldiers (in my sample, last once occurred in the 1960s).

You can report anything if you get permission from the Chief Coroner.

If there's a Coroner's finding that a death was a suicide, you can report that the death was a…

]]> Thu, 12 May 2016 09:49:34 +1200 Evan Roberts https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-an-update-of-changes-to-suicide/?p=360706#post360706 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-an-update-of-changes-to-suicide/?p=360706#post360706 Graeme, how far back does the restriction on discussing historical suicides apply?

I'm concerned because I'm researching suicides by former WWI soldiers (in my sample, last once occurred in the 1960s).

]]> Thu, 12 May 2016 06:40:15 +1200 Graeme Edgeler https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-an-update-of-changes-to-suicide/?p=360703#post360703 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-an-update-of-changes-to-suicide/?p=360703#post360703 I will no longer be able to report that the second wife of my great grandfather committed suicide by cutting her own throat?

You will need permission of the Chief Coroner before you do so publicly. You can still mention it in conversation.

]]> Wed, 11 May 2016 22:42:31 +1200 Graeme Edgeler https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-an-update-of-changes-to-suicide/?p=360702#post360702 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-an-update-of-changes-to-suicide/?p=360702#post360702 That’s unfortunate. I see the damage that breakfast tv hosts could cause if they started cracking jokes about the details of specific suicides (and some of them would if thay could).

Agreed. I've no issue with a broadcasting standard to stop this. There's already a bit of one, although it…

]]> Wed, 11 May 2016 22:41:33 +1200 Ross Mason https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-an-update-of-changes-to-suicide/?p=360701#post360701 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-an-update-of-changes-to-suicide/?p=360701#post360701 Wed, 11 May 2016 22:39:43 +1200 Public Address https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-an-update-of-changes-to-suicide/?p=360692#post360692 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/legal-beagle-an-update-of-changes-to-suicide/?p=360692#post360692 Discussion from blog post.

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