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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						<p>The ruminator digest is freaky. I was just thinking the other day what a great idea an animated time series for that tool would be. It was going to be my "idea of the week".</p><p>Just shows how unoriginal I am...</p>
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				<title>Bob Munro</title>
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						Thanks Russell.I hope it's all factual. I belted the last bit out rather quickly. I think there might have been a Minister of Conservation ruling which helped enforce the relocation of the snails (after permission had been granted to go ahead with mining under the Resource Management act): which could…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 15:21:48 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<p>*cough*</p><p>Thank you, George.</p><p>I have written a little explanation of what you're seeing <a href="http://vital.org.nz/entry/title/one_year_of_new_zealand_news_animated" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">here</a>.</p>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Why do I have to start a fscking blog site to read them?</p></blockquote><p>Indeed. </p><p>Stephen Judd is too modest to link to his <a href="http://bazombo.com/ruminator.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">ruminator</a>'s <a href="http://bazombo.com/pos.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">digest of the last year's news</a>, but it is truly compelling viewing. It's both beautiful and disturbing, and describes the print media in less than two…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 15:11:18 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote>Spending on relocating snails was done with SOE Solid Energy's money. The $25 million figure wasn't an actual cost it was the turnover (not profit) that didn't happen because of the time delay in coal production until the snails were relocated. The delay was caused by successful opposition to destruction…</blockquote>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						Pretty much my position too George, but one I reached at least 3 years ago.
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<p>Don Christie said,</p><blockquote><p>policy one might expect from 9 friggin years in opposition</p></blockquote><p>forgetting that National has 14 policies generated in those long dark years.</p><p>That said, I'm <em>extremely</em> disturbed by some of the things that Labour is doing. Instituting <a href="http://election08.scoop.co.nz/labour%e2%80%99s-human-rights-nightmare-the-new-immigration-bill/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Guantanamo standards in it's new Immigration Bill</a>, for one. After…</p>
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				<title>Bob Munro</title>
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						<blockquote><p>What happened if a druid, confused by the cold, plays someone elses melody?</p></blockquote><p>He'd be off Key.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 12:12:24 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I really sorry you can't see the difference but it seems to be a failing you share with your party leadership. That's all.</p></blockquote><p>And I'm really sorry that Ive wasted so much time and energy on debates &mdash; with both the loony left and rabid right &mdash; that ultimately boil…</p>
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				<title>Angus Robertson</title>
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						<blockquote>The candidate must lie naked all night in a coffin-like box, only his nostrils protruding above the icy water with which it is filled, and with heavy stones laid on his chest. In this position he must compose a poem of considerable length in the most difficult of the many…</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 12:05:41 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>where the goal posts never stop moving.</p></blockquote><p>Heh, Craig. I dunno, but I think I speak for a few here who would apply that to the shifting sands that form some of the more interesting online discussions with you. </p><p>I mean come on, we are talking about where the hell…</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<blockquote> an uneven playing field where the goal posts never stop moving.</blockquote> I thought you'd stopped drinking. ;-)
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The thing is Craig, you are talking further details about details.</p></blockquote><p>Don: I'm sorry, but one thing I'm going to have little patience with this campaign season is an uneven playing field where the goal posts never stop moving.</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I keep saying I wouldn't like to find myself in a lifeboat with Helen Clark,</p></blockquote><p>Helen is a survivor,<br />Be it on mountain or plain, <br />the like of which amongst leaders is seldom seen,<br />by her side the valiant captain Mike <br />a treasury of wit who is rarely sullen, <br />together they…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 11:37:42 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Bob Munro</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Not gone, just working for Act. But I am still racked by guilt every night about what I did to him:</p></blockquote><p>I'm happy to wade into John Ansell as well. The example quoted in Russell's link to an upcoming ACT ad comparing spending on giant snails with not spending on…</p>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						<p>(and just to prove it can be done)</p><p>Annoyed with the Socialist lickspittle<br />the libertarianz said that it'll<br />be a cold day in hell<br />when in the house do they dwell<br />'cos the rest of us don't care a whittle</p>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						damn should be 'caused'
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						<p>There once was a merchant banker<br />His lack of policy cause rancour<br />when finally released<br />his taxes weren't least<br />everyone thought him a</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<blockquote>ooh it's right on the tip of my tongue!</blockquote>Ewww
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						<p>The thing is Craig, you are talking further details about details. We are not even close to that stage with National. What was National's railway policy, before the buy back and after? Lessez faire, in both cases? Hardly informative.</p><p>As I said, you are stretching into detail. And only because…</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Um, Don, it's not a "possible exception" that Cullen was ordered to release the Treasury costings of the student loans policy during the campaign. Statement of fact, and as far as I'm aware no Chief Ombudsman had taken that step before, and I hope will never need to again.</p></blockquote><p>Don…</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Oh say... what rhymes with "merchant banker" then?</p></blockquote><p>Oh me! Pick me! I know this one. It's... ooh it's right on the tip of my tongue!</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The fact that Craig has to stretch so hard to find a possible exception speaks volumes.</p></blockquote><p>Um, Don, it's not a "possible exception" that Cullen was ordered to release the Treasury costings of the student loans policy during the campaign.  Statement of fact, and as far as I'm aware no…</p>
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And that is how 'Macarthur Park' came to be written....</p></blockquote><p>I always thought he had his nostrils <em>in</em> something when he wrote that, rather than out.</p>
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				<title>Rob Hosking</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The candidate must lie naked all night in a coffin-like box, only his nostrils protruding above the icy water with which it is filled, and with heavy stones laid on his chest. In this position he must compose a poem of considerable length in the most difficult of the many…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						To me one of *the* defining factors of this series of Labour Governments has been their development and publicising and campaigning openly on policy. I don't think many of the current crop are particularly proud of the approach they took in the 1980s. The fact that Craig has to stretch…
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Andrew Little?</p></blockquote><p>Some might say that's the definition!</p>
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				<title>David Slack</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And if Michael Cullen is going to be the designated hitman on this issue, then I think it's only fair to remind people that three years ago, he had to be ordered by the Ombudsman to release politically inconvenient Treasury costings of Labour's flagship student loans policy</p></blockquote><p>Good point. And…</p>
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						Oh say... what rhymes with "merchant banker" then?
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I dunno how well they'd do, what rhymes with "Socialist lickspittle"?</p></blockquote><p>Andrew Little?</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>John Ansell might be gone, but surely the lesson has not been forgotten.</p></blockquote><p>Not gone, just working for Act. But I am still racked by guilt every night about <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=280&amp;objectid=10498579" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">what I did to him</a>:</p><blockquote><p>"You do have to steel yourself when the people like the Russell Browns [Public Address blogger] attack…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But at least they have seemed to feel obliged to offer big wodges of detail in their policies and more willing to produce it sooner.</p></blockquote><p>Ah, yes...would you include the '20 hours free childcare policy' where, after considerable prompting and exasperating even the usually horizontal Geoff Robinson, Steve Maharey eventually…</p>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						yes but on the other hand lots of things rhyme with Rand: "unseen hand",  "pay for your own broadband", "SOE disband", "Nats right-hand", "ideological headstand" &ndash; the possibilities abound ...
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I predict the Libertarians would do rather well</p></blockquote><p>I dunno how well they'd do, what rhymes with "Socialist lickspittle"?</p>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						I can just imagine it, laid back in the box with my nose sticking out of the water and all I can think of is dirty limericks
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				<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 08:52:14 +1200</pubDate>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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