Public Address | Cafe | Island Life: Mother, We've Been Goosed

Gregor Ronald

Tue, 14 Nov 2006 20:47:25 +1300

C'mon guys, who put the hemorrhoid cushion on the photo of Auckland's waterfront? Stop being silly, this is a serious issue! That's enough, now show us the proper plan and stop being puerile.

Juha Saarinen

Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:59:10 +1300

Settle down everyone. The Herald has weighed in on the matter, as per [url [http://subs.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=1&ObjectID=10410465] Bernard Orsman's story here. ]

Looks like either the Eden Park interests or Christchurch are the winners then. When the Herald lays into big projects like that, they don't happen. Remember how the TelstraClear cable network…

Jake Pollock

Sat, 11 Nov 2006 03:15:05 +1300

Well, if they're going to build on the waterfront, they should at least make it into an advantage. Have a look at these two stadiums, which are on the river front, looking over downtown Pittsburgh.

PNC Park, home of the Pittsburgh Pirates

Heinz Field, home of the Steelers

The Pirates…

Felix Marwick

Sat, 11 Nov 2006 00:15:09 +1300

Very sceptical about the $497 million dollar price tag. If it's above water and requires substantial piling building the base will cost a hefty amount.

If a main road roundabout costs a $500 thousand to a million bucks I can't see the sub-strata for the NZ Stadium coming in at…

David Slack

Fri, 10 Nov 2006 11:18:04 +1300

Not PC also has a new post making a vigorous claim – with pics! – for Carlaw Park here

Gary Hutchings

Fri, 10 Nov 2006 10:10:09 +1300

It will be great to finally have the "options" out in the open today, so that we can actually see what is being floated,

I hope that each option is costed and timed so we are comparing apples with at least some other form of pipfruit, otherwise it will come…

David Slack

Fri, 10 Nov 2006 09:23:59 +1300

Seeing we have one link today to David Farrar that he's not wild about, I'll even up the scale with this one that endorses his perspective.

Of the stadium he lists some valid concerns:

*There is no agreement with the sporting codes on whether they would use the stadium
*…

Paul Rowe

Wed, 08 Nov 2006 11:56:03 +1300

IMHO, it is essential that any stadium in or close to the CBD *doesn't* have extensive parking facilities. What it needs is extensive public transport options (which costs money) to encourage people not to drive their cars into the city.

Eden Park should only be considered an option if they…

Tom Beard

Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:53:09 +1300

Just out of interest, does Auckland have any buildings "built this or last century" that are really good?

I haven't spent much time there in the last decade, so I can't comment with much conviction, but while I agree that there are few if any world-class C20 buildings in Auckland,…

Hadyn Green

Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:26:37 +1300

Would anyone be surprised to hear that the Allianz Satdium doesn't actually fit on Bledisloe Wharf?

And that's without the carpark you're gonna need.

Bledisloe Wharf is dead as an idea. So is Eden Park, let's move on to another site and quickly.

Hadyn Green

Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:24:06 +1300

The Metropolis Building. I love it.

David Slack

Wed, 08 Nov 2006 07:43:32 +1300

Just out of interest, does Auckland have any buildings "built this or last century" that are really good?

Depends, Sarah.

If you're prepared to accept early Twentieth Century, then I'd nominate the museum. And the Civic Theatre. And the Harbour Bridge.

Can't say that I feel fondly towards either of…

Sarah Wedde

Wed, 08 Nov 2006 06:04:04 +1300

Just out of interest, does Auckland have any buildings "built this or last century" that are really good? I'm asking in the sense that I've only been there a handful of times, all of them fleeting visits without any looking around time.

My impression of much of modern architecture is…

Robyn Gallagher

Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:15:36 +1300

Auckland has a really uneasy relationship with architecture. People seem to feel most comfortable if a building looks like a Greek temple, and if anything looks like it was built this or last century, it tends to confuse and worry people.

I expect that no matter what the design for…

Raffe Smith

Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:09:22 +1300

^^ Oh, I meant that the Allianz design rules as an abstract and technical architectural object, not in the context of the Auckland waterfront.

Raffe Smith

Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:07:10 +1300

What Tom said. And yes, the Allianz design does rule, but why haven`t we seen an image from street level, how a pedestrian would experience it?

The Allianz glows red when Bayern Munchen is playing, blue when Munchen 1860 plays, and white for Deutschland.

Now, how could a stadium glow…

Hamish

Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:44:57 +1300

Am I the only one who really doesn't care where it is, as long as we actually have one and it's close to a train station?

Am I also the only one that thinks that Allianz stadium design rulez? Who cares if it looks somewhat like a bedpan (I've never…

Russell Brown

Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:39:00 +1300

Hold the phone. The PM is quoted on Checkpoint as saying things have "moved on" from the Bledisloe site. The speculation is now on nearby land, but surely Carlaw Park – and remember where you heard that first – must be under consideration too.

Damn. There goes my vow to…

Doddery Oldfart

Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:28:31 +1300

" How can I get rid of piles?

Gently but thoroughly clean the affected area after each bowel movement.

If you find the pain intolerable, try sitting on an inflatable ring — shaped like a big donut — "

Tom Beard

Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:18:14 +1300

As for "property spruikers", I just hope that the former Eden Park land gets some proper medium- to high-density housing, not the squat little retirement village that got built on Athletic Park.

Tom Beard

Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:15:44 +1300

I don't get it: are they actually proposing to clone a stadium from the other side of the world? Or is it just a case of "here's something vaguely similar to show that it would fit", and they'll work out the design as they go? I hope it's the latter,…

Andre Alessi

Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:13:36 +1300

Will it come with lions? I'd be all for lions...

andrew llewellyn

Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:00:17 +1300

That's it! It looks like a bedpan. I kept thinking it was a squarish flat tyre, but who has square tyres?

The Bedpan. The Caketin. The Bedpan. Nice.

Sarah Wedde

Tue, 07 Nov 2006 16:49:17 +1300

Looking at that I feel an overwhelming urge to go for a wee...

Gary Hutchings

Tue, 07 Nov 2006 16:18:20 +1300

It will be *very* interesting to see which option is finally chosen for this,although I suspect that "creating a legacy" will favour something on the waterfront,

But the Govt will need to tread very carfully so they dont upset hordes of voters in Auckland, never looks good to be introducing…

Andrew Feltoe

Tue, 07 Nov 2006 15:48:18 +1300

Best laugh of the day I swear! I thought the cake-tin was a monster of uglifying proportion. Nice work, David.

David Slack

Tue, 07 Nov 2006 15:45:03 +1300

Well now, I wasn't going to bring this up for fear of being accused of trivial pedantry, but there was also a somewhat symbolic srcewup in the Heart of Auckland City full page ad in the Herald this morning. To whit:

LET'S BUILD SOMETHING WE CAN BE PROUD OF. LETS…

Hadyn Green

Tue, 07 Nov 2006 15:29:06 +1300

My friend just sent me this:

"A proposal three years ago put a $100 million pricetag on building a 25,000 seat stadium there [Carlaw Park]. A 60,000 seat stadium would cost more, but significantly less than the $700,000 touted for the waterfront."
– Straight from Stuff
$700,000 for a waterfront…

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Tue, 07 Nov 2006 15:29:04 +1300

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