Public Address | Cafe | Island Life: Losing the billboard plot

Muriel Lockheed

Fri, 22 Dec 2006 00:00:27 +1300

Brash said he now believed he was being followed throughout the election campaign. "I'm not given to paranoia, but you are left with the uncomfortable feeling that there is some kind of hanky panky going on.

I think the "hanky panky" as Dr Brash so endearingly puts it was between…

FletcherB

Wed, 20 Dec 2006 14:00:45 +1300

I'm certain Brash was followed throughout the campaign....

Theres those people with the cameras and microphones for a start.... and then the ones with little note-pads writing down everything he said...

Andthen they told the public about it on TV/radio/newspapers!

Its a conspiracy, I tell you!

andrew llewellyn

Wed, 20 Dec 2006 11:21:09 +1300

Brash said he now believed he was being followed throughout the election campaign

Does this remind anyone else of the post Rivendell section of the Fellowship of the Ring? How about if I mentioned that certain people of my acquaintance refer to Nicky Hager as "Gollum"?

Idiot Savant

Wed, 20 Dec 2006 11:06:52 +1300

FletcherB: It's a Kyoto accounting convention. As you point it, its incorrect – the carbon usually takes a lot longer to get into the atmosphere – but there are problems of provability and traceability, and the negotiators of the Kyoto rulebook decided to ignore them and adopt a "better safe…

Che Tibby

Wed, 20 Dec 2006 10:23:15 +1300

but, on the subject of dr. brash and conspiracies.

this from stuff:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/3905457a6160.html

brash:

Brash said he now believed he was being followed throughout the election campaign. "I'm not given to paranoia, but you are left with the uncomfortable feeling that there is some kind of hanky panky going on.

i…

FletcherB

Wed, 20 Dec 2006 09:35:44 +1300

I'm having trouble with the concept that cutting down a tree releases the stored carbon?

If you burn the wood, or let it rot and decompose sure, its released.

But surely the walls of my house and the furniture I sit on still have all the carbon inside them, unreleased,…

Che Tibby

Wed, 20 Dec 2006 07:12:57 +1300

i/s, as i say, i listened to and got what you're saying. and, fortunately, emissions policy is nothing i have to touch in my working life.

that said, i don't think that any likely combination of contemporary persons in thorndon will deliver anything like a sustainable emissions outcome. no will…

Idiot Savant

Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:32:26 +1300

Policy wonking on Sustainable Land Management and Climate Change is now up here

Idiot Savant

Tue, 19 Dec 2006 23:18:41 +1300

Che: with our renewable energy resources and empty spaces waiting to be filled with tres (meaning biofuel plantations), we have the best chance inthe world to cut our emissions. The trick seems to be getting started,and convincing people that it can be done without having to return to the dark…

Che Tibby

Tue, 19 Dec 2006 17:44:50 +1300

i think don's comment is the kernel of my long-standing scepticism towards kyoto.

after a conversation with i/s i've come round and think it is an acceptable approach (considering i only understand it in 'educated layman's' terms), but remain dubious that any real effort to cut carbon emissions will present…

Idiot Savant

Tue, 19 Dec 2006 16:50:31 +1300

Okay, what about this: but for those existing plantations, the planet and Kyoto takes a bigger hit. What recognition do they get for the benefit they already contribute?

None. The trees exist, and the carbon is already stored, so there's nothing to incentivise except the deforestation side.

This isn't a…

Michael Savidge

Tue, 19 Dec 2006 16:50:21 +1300

In regard to Stever's link, if the research is correct then once again we are witnessing the knee-jerk political actioneering that has become typical when a "new" issue starts gaining media traction – and there is a populace to placate.

Ho hum...plus ca change...

Reduction of reliance on fossil fuels…

Don Christie

Tue, 19 Dec 2006 14:05:30 +1300

David – given the environmental harm done by huge pine forest plantation (acidification, loss of native habitat, fertilizer use, erosion during harvesting) I think the owners have already had plenty recognition for their "benefit" from the rest of us.

In terms of CO2 sinks I am not sure trees are…

stever@cs.waikato.ac.nz

Tue, 19 Dec 2006 13:46:18 +1300

Given our latitude, perhaps this needs consideration.

David Slack

Tue, 19 Dec 2006 13:40:16 +1300

It's not a matter of "stick" – its a matter of making people pay the full cost of their activites. Cutting down trees without planting replacements imposes a cost on the planet, and (thanks to Kyoto) on the government. This is a classic case of an externality, and the classic…

DPF

Tue, 19 Dec 2006 13:31:57 +1300

Che – I'll take responsibility for many things, but not for webmarhsall or net nanny software which blocks my blog. Probably doesn't like my mention of Britney's Spears p***y :-)

And I did not say raising the minimum wage was a bad thing. In fact I said I reject those…

Idiot Savant

Tue, 19 Dec 2006 12:16:09 +1300

If we want a land full of pine trees, should the government not be a little stronger on the carrot and not quite so heavy on the stick?

It's not a matter of "stick" – its a matter of making people pay the full cost of their activites. Cutting down…

merc

Tue, 19 Dec 2006 12:15:46 +1300

Spooky, it's like their are two DPF's. The one you'd happily have a glass of wine with and the one you hope never gets near the levers of power.

Che Tibby

Tue, 19 Dec 2006 11:44:17 +1300

someone do me a favour and post this link http://www.epi.org/content.cfm/issueguides_minwage_minwagefacts

on DPF's latest foray into economics.

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2006/12/minimum_wage_up_10.html

webmarshall is blocking it. which i think is possible basis for a very real conspiracy against the truth reaching kiwiblog...

Russell Brown

Tue, 19 Dec 2006 11:25:39 +1300

If the book is reliable on this matter, it would seem that the quality of Ansell's creative output is a little inconsistent. Some of it sounded to lack the deft touch of the Iwi/Kiwi series.

The poetry, you mean? Dreadful.

andrew llewellyn

Tue, 19 Dec 2006 11:16:12 +1300

Was Key the 8th Beatle (after Stu Sutcliffe, Pete Best & George Martin) by any chance?

merc

Tue, 19 Dec 2006 11:09:54 +1300

Billboards are serious revenue for an Agency, outside the TVNZ cartel. Plus who can evaluate noise vesus "propensity to act", the Client never can and the Research Company never wants to. Campaign success equals re-pitch the Account.

There is something in wanting to ban the noise of the Iwi?Kiwi campaign,…

Public Address

Tue, 19 Dec 2006 11:09:53 +1300

Discussion from blog post.