Public Address | Cafe | Island Life: I'll cry if I want to https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/ en-us Copyright (c) 2026 Public Address Riddley Walker https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-ill-cry-if-i-want-to/?p=9011#post9011 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-ill-cry-if-i-want-to/?p=9011#post9011 yes, the Eden Park Trust Board are the real snarky bastards in all this and they've been playing the public like a fiddle. it's run like a feifdom full of bad haircuts and even worse suits. let them part with the cash for the shortfall.

but you know, corporate advertising…

]]> Sat, 03 Mar 2007 17:35:28 +1300 Ian Hickling https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-ill-cry-if-i-want-to/?p=8987#post8987 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-ill-cry-if-i-want-to/?p=8987#post8987 Sat, 03 Mar 2007 14:11:10 +1300 Kyle Matthews https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-ill-cry-if-i-want-to/?p=7910#post7910 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-ill-cry-if-i-want-to/?p=7910#post7910 Wed, 21 Feb 2007 10:30:31 +1300 Stephen Judd https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-ill-cry-if-i-want-to/?p=7852#post7852 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-ill-cry-if-i-want-to/?p=7852#post7852 Che, the NZRFU is an incorporated society – a not-for-profit organisation. However, if you read the 2005 annual report you will see a line item "profit", which is a legitimate way to refer to the surplus of income over expenditure (23 mill for 2005).

However this brings up an interesting…

]]> Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:24:09 +1300 merc https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-ill-cry-if-i-want-to/?p=7851#post7851 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-ill-cry-if-i-want-to/?p=7851#post7851 Boy you told me there Don. Cabled with what, copper? And I like the way you consider stadia right there alongside sewers.
As for Weli, it exists on the taxpayers largesse. And I'm guessing you wouldn't want me type of people working there, eh?
So, let me follow the logic,…

]]> Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:15:27 +1300 Don Christie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-ill-cry-if-i-want-to/?p=7849#post7849 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-ill-cry-if-i-want-to/?p=7849#post7849

Don, if you're relying on the Council (ratepayers) to prop up your business you're madder than I am.

Am I? Well, let me tell you that Wellington CBD being totally cabled by 1997 was an important factor in our business survival. The city council had a part to play in…

]]> Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:00:42 +1300 Che Tibby https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-ill-cry-if-i-want-to/?p=7838#post7838 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-ill-cry-if-i-want-to/?p=7838#post7838

The Rugby Union has made $20 million + surpluses the last couple of years. It is a profitable franchise

forgive me if i'm wring, but i'm lead to understand the NZRFU to be a non-profit organisation. in fact, i'm pretty certain that's it's tax-exempt (barring GST).

consequently, there is no…

]]> Tue, 20 Feb 2007 15:05:58 +1300 merc https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-ill-cry-if-i-want-to/?p=7826#post7826 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-ill-cry-if-i-want-to/?p=7826#post7826 This is information by drip-feed in action...
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10424869

]]> Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:30:11 +1300 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-ill-cry-if-i-want-to/?p=7825#post7825 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-ill-cry-if-i-want-to/?p=7825#post7825

My point, and I do have one, is that the expenditure is a one-off and the main beneficiary is a private concern. I have nothing against funding sport, or "entertainment infrastructure", but I have a big problem with letting individual organisations at the public tit for private gain.

Another element…

]]> Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:28:29 +1300 merc https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-ill-cry-if-i-want-to/?p=7822#post7822 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-ill-cry-if-i-want-to/?p=7822#post7822 Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:16:25 +1300 Stephen Judd https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-ill-cry-if-i-want-to/?p=7820#post7820 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-ill-cry-if-i-want-to/?p=7820#post7820 My point, and I do have one, is that the expenditure is a one-off and the main beneficiary is a private concern. I have nothing against funding sport, or "entertainment infrastructure", but I have a big problem with letting individual organisations at the public tit for private gain.

Don: yes…

]]> Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:13:48 +1300 merc https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-ill-cry-if-i-want-to/?p=7819#post7819 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-ill-cry-if-i-want-to/?p=7819#post7819 Don, if you're relying on the Council (ratepayers) to prop up your business you're madder than I am.
Sure rugby is the nat game, I love it, so why did we sell The All Blacks?

]]> Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:09:38 +1300 Juha Saarinen https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-ill-cry-if-i-want-to/?p=7810#post7810 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-ill-cry-if-i-want-to/?p=7810#post7810 No, Aucklanders deserve what they get. Beyond rising property values and endless Sky TV repeats, there's not much more Joe and Joelene Aucklander desires. Well, dawn lawn-mowing, I suppose.

It's still not too late to stop the stadium nonsense and spend far less money on televising the RWC from Australia…

]]> Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:41:02 +1300 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-ill-cry-if-i-want-to/?p=7809#post7809 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-ill-cry-if-i-want-to/?p=7809#post7809

The Rugby Union has made $20 million + surpluses the last couple of years. It is a profitable franchise. There is absolutely no reason why it could not raise the funds from issuing bonds or other borrowing techniques, and paying it off, just like the rest of us.

The NZRU…

]]> Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:40:03 +1300 Don Christie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-ill-cry-if-i-want-to/?p=7806#post7806 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-ill-cry-if-i-want-to/?p=7806#post7806

Why do we want the Council to put on events at all?

Are you serious? If so, how about – so that rate payers, you know businesses like bars, hotels and cafes, can make more bucks.

I could think up a few more platonic reasons but you don't seem interested…

]]> Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:32:41 +1300 Don Christie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-ill-cry-if-i-want-to/?p=7805#post7805 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-ill-cry-if-i-want-to/?p=7805#post7805

Why the fuck am I paying a for-profit entertainment business huge sums from my taxes when urgent, universally-needed infrastructure goes begging?

What infrastructure is going begging? Everytime I visit Auckland there is a new motorway or railway station being built. New hospital going up here in Welly along with a…

]]> Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:30:08 +1300 merc https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-ill-cry-if-i-want-to/?p=7804#post7804 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-ill-cry-if-i-want-to/?p=7804#post7804 Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:28:07 +1300 Don Christie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-ill-cry-if-i-want-to/?p=7798#post7798 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-ill-cry-if-i-want-to/?p=7798#post7798 Nat...what Auckland deserves and what Aucklanders (according to the Herald and Mr. Slack) want are not the same thing.

Did you miss the harbour proposal last year, being the new kid and all?

]]> Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:11:05 +1300 Nat Torkington https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-ill-cry-if-i-want-to/?p=7794#post7794 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-ill-cry-if-i-want-to/?p=7794#post7794 Tue, 20 Feb 2007 12:45:18 +1300 Stephen Judd https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-ill-cry-if-i-want-to/?p=7792#post7792 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-ill-cry-if-i-want-to/?p=7792#post7792 Yeah, I'm really pretty angry about this.

The Rugby Union has made $20 million + surpluses the last couple of years. It is a profitable franchise. There is absolutely no reason why it could not raise the funds from issuing bonds or other borrowing techniques, and paying it off, just…

]]> Tue, 20 Feb 2007 12:23:08 +1300 merc https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-ill-cry-if-i-want-to/?p=7786#post7786 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-ill-cry-if-i-want-to/?p=7786#post7786 Please explain to me why we must pay for the Eden Park deckchairs? And is it just me or is 180 million dollars actually ahell of a lot of money, not the cheap option, I repeat, ahelluvalot of money.
In fact combine that with the 80 million dollars that went…

]]> Tue, 20 Feb 2007 12:08:57 +1300 Public Address https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-ill-cry-if-i-want-to/?p=7785#post7785 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-ill-cry-if-i-want-to/?p=7785#post7785 Discussion from blog post.

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