Island Life: Good on ya, Paula
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I did a poetry paper online - an actual writing poems one, called Love, Loss & Looking Around - and i thought it was great until i went to the contact course and experienced poetry live. Gobsmacked. I'd missed a whole dimension.
Same with practical art - I learnt alongside practising artists and it's what you absorb of their "whole" approach. Thought, talk, action, how they position and use their bodies - it's the whole body language thing that is lost online. The round-table discussions, a casual remark that flings open an unexpected window for you.
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You can learn recipes - but you CANNOT LEARN FOOD.
Thought we'd get a whole post in CAPS from you, Islander...heehee.
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the whole body language thing that is lost online
Not with decent broadband that supports high resolution real-time video rather than just typed text. Maurice Williamson still has a lot to answer for that we are so far behind.
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you CANNOT LEARN FOOD
Sure you can't eat it remotely. However, this Campbell Live story on creating a sunday roast was both instructive and entertaining - and who knew Hamish Keith had that string to his bow?
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the slid projectors from the old school history lectures, will they end up as found objects art in the future. I know they will, but who will be the attending audiences? art history students?
media history students??
I listened to Bryan Crump talking to Emma Someone, curator of Artspace, last night on Natrad and she was talking about painting in the digital age and whether it was dying. As has been prophesied since about 1839 - Paul de la Roche declared painting dead in the face of photography. But painting has claws. And Emma pointed to artists such as Marlene Dumas, who's just exhibited at MoMA, whose work is diaristic, personalised, small (as opposed to giant size canvases) as characteristic of painting's response.
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Since I've been a small child, I've been a fisher. I now know where how when & why to catch a great many varieties of fish in Aotearoa/NZ - and how to cook, preserve, and present 'em.
Its just like poetry Kerry - i can (I know! I've done it frequently!) sway audiences with my voice&mywords. It's not a paying occuppation however, and people get very tired doing it.
And poetry/art are *despised* in this country - unless they bring in money-
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Sure you can't eat it remotely.
yeah, but!! you can't touch it, smell it, play with it ... all those tactile responses that are soooo important. I couldn't paint without slurping my fingers in it, whiffing up the pungent scent of turps and oils ...it's a vital part of it. The whole slow, simmering, accidental process. God, i miss it.
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And poetry/art are *despised* in this country - unless they bring in money-
The web was also nicer before it filled up with people who consider a web site pointless if it can't be monetised. The unhappy legacy of economic rationalism has been the attitude that all actions are transactions.
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With equal and apposite reactionaries..
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@Kerry- dont miss it! Do it just for the fun & joy! I know - it doesnt sell, but we can still salve ourselves-
It took me about 30 years to just go back to playing with my words & sounds & images -and THAT is the iniquity- thinking of joy-begot goods as saleables...they used to be just- expressions of joy, expertise, playfulness, wonder, insight, & comfort/explanation- and wiser peoples provided the sustenance for the makyrs to do just that-
and yes, I am so aware of the time spans, conditions, and history, and how it all got controlled into religion & dominance and crap-
and how we live in a money-credit-controlled society.
The End.
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Paul I don't entirely agree with this with regards to NZ education. I would say the back to basics drive here started as soon as National were voted in and they began to instigate their standards regime which will mean schools will have to focus on numeracy and literacy standards and then report on them.
Are we headed for the kind of system the Japanese are moving away from?
and how we live in a money-credit-controlled society.
Things would probably have to go Irish or Icelandic to jolt the Jones-keeper-uppers back to reality.
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Or just Scandanavian, actually-
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Or just Scandanavian, actually-
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Are we headed for the kind of system the Japanese are moving away from?
Not sure about Japan but the Brits have found that setting standards and all that went with hasn't worked and are moving away from it. Means nothing to Tolley though. My concern is what is further down the track. Punishing schools that don't meet the standards. Paying teachers according a narrow range of standards results.
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Thats my learning style, for which I was in the minority.
There should be room for any/many learning styles. My son, 16, hasn't been to a secondary school at all, he's enrolled at one but does work by correspondence. He prefers to work in booklets, but does writing on Word and plays with graphics. He's doing well, considering anxiety/aspie issues, he's on track to get his ncea1 and computing credits at level 2.
But the best thing by far is he's playing electric guitar - totally taken to it and he has that obsessional edge about it. He's got a great teacher - a guy who plays in 3 bands including an AC/DC tribute band - who is so enthusiastic and affirmative that he just carries my boy along.
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With equal and apposite reactionaries..
Sacha, it was the thread that wouldn't die that actually prompted me to take the new media paper
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Tony Parker - you're teaching in my home town. I'm an ex-Colenso pupil from waaay back. Always read your posts with interest.
I'm putting some thought into TC as a post-grad option and teaching history or english/media studies maybe - and a sideways jump into art if I can. The whole TolleyWax thing is off-putting, though. And the paperwork - I believe it's horrendous.
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Kerry, wonderful that something good came out that thread.
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Tony Parker - you're teaching in my home town. I'm an ex-Colenso pupil from waaay back. Always read your posts with interest.
I'm putting some thought into TC as a post-grad option and teaching history or english/media studies maybe - and a sideways jump into art if I can. The whole TolleyWax thing is off-putting, though. And the paperwork - I believe it's horrendous.
Colenso eh. It's a different school now I would say from when you were there.
As a primary teacher I can't comment on Secondary but there can be a lot of paper work although there is research going on into ways of using IT both on and offline to create some management systems that may take away some of this. I can't see much good for the teaching profession and by extension schools coming from this government, it all seems adversorial once again. That said every day my 5 year olds do things that amaze and impress me and that's a big reason for getting up and going to school. -
ODT writes about Bennett breaching privacy, and is against it unlike the Harold and Dom.
In retaliation - there is no more appropriate description - Ms Bennett obtained the totality of the women's benefits, including their child support, from staff in her office and made the information public, without the knowledge of the women concerned.
By law, this information is collected for the purpose of administering benefits, not for entering the lists of political debate.
...It might well be asked whatever has happened to the usual ministerial riposte, that they do not comment on individual cases?
A week ago in Question Time:
It is pretty hard for me to comment on individual circumstances.
Safe to say she got over that.
Seems like there is dirt to dig about one of the two beneficiaries, so maybe the Minister did feel "provoked" after all. Needs more maturity about how she responds, regardless.
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The web was also nicer before it filled up with people who consider a web site pointless if it can't be monetised. The unhappy legacy of economic rationalism has been the attitude that all actions are transactions.
Fuck them. Why can't I just be a good citizen?
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But how do I make money out of you being a citizen?
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3410,
Why is every news outlet reporting that Goff topped the list of MPs' expenses? As far as I can tell, this is not true. Anyone got a link to the actual data?
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Fuck them. Why can't I just be a good citizen?
Sacha kinda beat me to it. What I was going to say was,
"cos the bad citizens will take advantage of you're goodness" -
But how do I make money out of you being a citizen?
Taxes.
;-)
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