Public Address | Cafe | Island Life: And later on, a bit of a sort out https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/ en-us Copyright (c) 2026 Public Address Angus Robertson https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-and-later-on-a-bit-of-a-sort/?p=62481#post62481 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-and-later-on-a-bit-of-a-sort/?p=62481#post62481 Wed, 06 Aug 2008 09:58:04 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-and-later-on-a-bit-of-a-sort/?p=62347#post62347 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-and-later-on-a-bit-of-a-sort/?p=62347#post62347

Redbaiter would never have anything to do with those socialist scum.

Thus the brilliance of his disguise. No beard necessary.

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Coote's a hoot. I can't confirm if he actually is Redbaiter, but The Fundy Post has revealed his after-hours gig: he's the campaign manager for National's Jackie Blue in Mt Roskill.

Redbaiter would never have anything to do with those socialist scum.

]]> Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:24:04 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-and-later-on-a-bit-of-a-sort/?p=62333#post62333 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-and-later-on-a-bit-of-a-sort/?p=62333#post62333 Wasn't someone asking about this term recently – great turn o phrase by Mr Litterick:

PoMo, a world without moral absolutes where nobody listens to priests any more

]]> Tue, 05 Aug 2008 12:58:25 +1200 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-and-later-on-a-bit-of-a-sort/?p=62326#post62326 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-and-later-on-a-bit-of-a-sort/?p=62326#post62326 Oh, and Public Address reader Andrew Wilson gave us this personal account of a Horowitz lecture appearance in Indiana in 2005.

It is every bit as disturbing as you'd expect. And then some more.

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I note that his name has been cropping up a bit on Farrar's blog, but from what I can tell no one (apart from maybe Redbaiter and Michael Coote of the NBR on the New Zealand Right has gotten out there yet.

Coote's a hoot. I can't confirm if he…

]]> Tue, 05 Aug 2008 12:41:14 +1200 Che Tibby https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-and-later-on-a-bit-of-a-sort/?p=62320#post62320 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-and-later-on-a-bit-of-a-sort/?p=62320#post62320

Chocolate fish to anyone who can prove they've actually read anything by Strauss — documentary evidence of brain bleeds, haemorrhaging eyeballs etc.

i once read "the raw and the cooked" if that's any qualification.

]]> Tue, 05 Aug 2008 12:33:20 +1200 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-and-later-on-a-bit-of-a-sort/?p=62318#post62318 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-and-later-on-a-bit-of-a-sort/?p=62318#post62318

Craig – is he that bad?

I wouldn't say "bad", but I'll put it this way: If Mike Moore or Ann Coulter is your idea of political philosophy — no troublesome reading of dead white guys who use big words or actual thought required --, stay the hell away from…

]]> Tue, 05 Aug 2008 12:28:34 +1200 Jake Pollock https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-and-later-on-a-bit-of-a-sort/?p=62311#post62311 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-and-later-on-a-bit-of-a-sort/?p=62311#post62311 Tue, 05 Aug 2008 12:07:13 +1200 Jake Pollock https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-and-later-on-a-bit-of-a-sort/?p=62303#post62303 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-and-later-on-a-bit-of-a-sort/?p=62303#post62303 Thanks David — if only all of my intermittent breaks from reading about 17th Century Dutch maps were as profitable.

And although I've not read any Strauss, I did have the misfortune of having to read some David Horowitz last semester — now there's an insane man playing an important…

]]> Tue, 05 Aug 2008 11:59:53 +1200 Jordan Carter https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-and-later-on-a-bit-of-a-sort/?p=62297#post62297 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-and-later-on-a-bit-of-a-sort/?p=62297#post62297 Tue, 05 Aug 2008 11:50:57 +1200 giovanni tiso https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-and-later-on-a-bit-of-a-sort/?p=62286#post62286 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-and-later-on-a-bit-of-a-sort/?p=62286#post62286

Are those two concepts mutually exclusive?

Not at all, he was pretty clear you could do one and then the other (although not vice versa).

]]> Tue, 05 Aug 2008 11:22:57 +1200 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-and-later-on-a-bit-of-a-sort/?p=62284#post62284 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-and-later-on-a-bit-of-a-sort/?p=62284#post62284 Tue, 05 Aug 2008 11:19:18 +1200 andrew llewellyn https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-and-later-on-a-bit-of-a-sort/?p=62283#post62283 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-and-later-on-a-bit-of-a-sort/?p=62283#post62283

is that men ought to other be indulged or utterly destroyed.

Are those two concepts mutually exclusive?

]]> Tue, 05 Aug 2008 11:15:12 +1200 andrew llewellyn https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-and-later-on-a-bit-of-a-sort/?p=62282#post62282 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-and-later-on-a-bit-of-a-sort/?p=62282#post62282 Cheers David, I think you've offered before & I probably promised to support impoverished authors by buying my own copy...

... I probably spent the money on drugs &/or porn... or squandered it in some way.

Couldn't really imagine Nicole using a word like "lest" anyway.

]]> Tue, 05 Aug 2008 11:13:34 +1200 Danyl Mclauchlan https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-and-later-on-a-bit-of-a-sort/?p=62280#post62280 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-and-later-on-a-bit-of-a-sort/?p=62280#post62280 Tue, 05 Aug 2008 11:11:19 +1200 giovanni tiso https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-and-later-on-a-bit-of-a-sort/?p=62277#post62277 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-and-later-on-a-bit-of-a-sort/?p=62277#post62277 Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:51:51 +1200 giovanni tiso https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-and-later-on-a-bit-of-a-sort/?p=62276#post62276 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-and-later-on-a-bit-of-a-sort/?p=62276#post62276 That seems unduly generous, David, but I am not known to turn down free stuff, much less free books. Tell you what, I'll accept so long as you're able to track down the author and get him to sign it.

Now there's a challenge for you.

(My son the other…

]]> Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:50:09 +1200 Don Christie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-and-later-on-a-bit-of-a-sort/?p=62274#post62274 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-and-later-on-a-bit-of-a-sort/?p=62274#post62274 Even more interesting is today's news that a Kiwisaver "rejig" involving "small changes" will release the squillions needed to fund tax cuts.

There is no safe retirement fund. My advice to look after yourself in your old age – buy property. Seriously, why the .... would anyone trust private or…

]]> Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:39:47 +1200 John Fouhy https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-and-later-on-a-bit-of-a-sort/?p=62273#post62273 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-and-later-on-a-bit-of-a-sort/?p=62273#post62273 Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:36:25 +1200 David Slack https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-and-later-on-a-bit-of-a-sort/?p=62272#post62272 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-and-later-on-a-bit-of-a-sort/?p=62272#post62272 Free copy of Civil War and Other Optimistic Predictions (the 2005 election year book that never goes out of date) to Jake and Giovanni if you'd like one. Just email me a mailing address.

Llew, you can have one too if you don't already.

]]> Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:27:43 +1200 andrew llewellyn https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-and-later-on-a-bit-of-a-sort/?p=62270#post62270 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-and-later-on-a-bit-of-a-sort/?p=62270#post62270 Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:24:46 +1200 Jake Pollock https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-and-later-on-a-bit-of-a-sort/?p=62268#post62268 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-and-later-on-a-bit-of-a-sort/?p=62268#post62268 Redbaiter!

Nah, really it was Shadia Drury, writing of the neo-conservative followers of Leo Strauss. But I only know that 'cause of google.

]]> Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:21:07 +1200 giovanni tiso https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-and-later-on-a-bit-of-a-sort/?p=62267#post62267 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-and-later-on-a-bit-of-a-sort/?p=62267#post62267 Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:19:59 +1200 Public Address https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-and-later-on-a-bit-of-a-sort/?p=62266#post62266 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/island-life-and-later-on-a-bit-of-a-sort/?p=62266#post62266 Discussion from blog post.

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