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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Just been doing my reading. Tomorrow's post should be quite fun.</p><p>The new paper doesn't (to my surprise, actually) conflict dreadfully with the speech a year ago in which Key announced the policy.</p><p>But pretty much everything else they said &mdash; and campaigned on &mdash; thereafter was kind of bullshit.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:47:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						Oh, and it seems that by posting on Kiwiblog for the first time I have entirely bought down their site.  Perhaps the lack of "corrupt socialist Liarbour scum media saps" in my post contradicts their comment architecture?
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				<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:34:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						<p>Bloody hell, it has to proceed to make the business case.  <br />Software-as-a-service does and will largely come from offshore (all due respect to Mr Drury), the "weightless economy" is export focussed etc etc.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:30:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It is, but it hasn't been given much publicity in comparison with the FTTx rollout.</p></blockquote><p>I'm not entirely sure that National has actually said it will proceed.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:26:36 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Isn't this happening with the Kordia pipe though?</p></blockquote><p>It is, but it hasn't been given much publicity in comparison with the FTTx rollout.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:24:34 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'd upgrade the backhaul and international bandwidth first</p></blockquote><p>Isn't this happening with the Kordia pipe though?  Given a lot of his case rests on "geographic distance overcome by getting Kiwi businesses virtually at meetings around the world" then that's an absolute essential</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:14:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						Well, they do say greenfield developments and "certain tranches of residential areas" but yes.  2019 before the plan is really rolled out?  That seems a loooooooong way away to me, especially in the tech world.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:11:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						And if I were Steven Joyce, I'd upgrade the backhaul and international bandwidth first, then the FTTx would follow after that. It'd be even better if the proposed Kordia-PipeNet cable was run from Kapiti instead of Piha, so that all the data eggs don't all go into one cable basket.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:11:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>I'm working on a blog for tomorrow morning as we speak.</p><p>The thing that strikes me is that under the policy announced a year ago by Key and Williamson, 75% of New Zealand homes were to have "ultra-fast" fibre by 2014 &mdash; less than six years from the government taking…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:04:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						<p>Not to drag up an old thread, and I imagine Russell that you'll blog a new one soon, but the PPP broadband is <a href="http://www.med.govt.nz/upload/Final%20broadband%20initiative%20consultation%20document%20-%2031%20March%202009.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">here</a> (pdf).</p><p>As I just said on Kiwiblog, the pressure for Telecom to sell down their Chorus stake must be much stronger now, as retailers are to…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 12:56:22 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Bob Munro</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Serfs?</p><p>Toiling day and night in the underground comment mines...</p></blockquote><p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/06/technology/06sweat.html?_r=3&amp;st=cse&amp;sq=blogging&amp;scp=1&amp;oref=slogin&amp;oref=slogin&amp;oref=slogin" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">...to the serious detriment of their health.</a></p><p><br />"Two weeks ago in North Lauderdale, Fla., funeral services were held for Russell Shaw, a prolific blogger on technology subjects who died at 60 of a heart attack. In December, another tech blogger,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 15:14:06 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>mark taslov</title>
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						<p>"can you please give the 'eat shit hypocritical Western capitalist running dogs' routine a rest?"</p><p>don't take it personally,Craig. it's neither east nor west. If my right to share were threatened I would feel so too.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 05:40:48 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p>Rich wrote:</p><blockquote><p>How flexible a technology is fibre? Will we spend $$$ on putting in 2010-generation fibre and then find it's obsolete in 10 years? (Good-quality copper has transitioned from the 3kHz analog it was installed for through to 20Mbit DSL). How many people will opt for expensive fibre over…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:01:25 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Toiling day and night in the underground comment mines...</p></blockquote><p>Where unpaid child labour forms the bulk of the work.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:03:03 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>David Hamilton</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Serfs?</p></blockquote><p>Toiling day and night in the underground comment mines...</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 10:04:50 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rob Hosking</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Nae King! Nae quin! Nae Laird! Nae master! We willna' be fooled agin!</p></blockquote><p>Crivens! There can only be one t'ousand!</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:45:49 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Christiaan</title>
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						<p>Inspiring talk by Larry Lessig: </p><p>How creativity is being strangled by the law<br /><a href="http://www.ted.com/talks/view/id/187" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.ted.com/talks/view/id/187</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 07:01:29 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Idiot Savant</title>
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						And sure, Parliament has passed a law outlawing bypassing TPMs.  But with format-shifting so ingrained, do they really expect anyone to give a damn?
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 22:49:29 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Idiot Savant</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Also, the Media 7 promo on the front page of tvnz.co.nz describes its host as the "king of the blogosphere". Does that make us his loyal servants?</p></blockquote><p>Nae King! Nae quin! Nae Laird! Nae master! We willna' be fooled agin!</p><p>(Channeling my inner Feegle)</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 22:39:53 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The reasoning was that technology intended merely to control geographic pricing was no business of copyright law.</p></blockquote><p>Wierd. But the Bill doesn't exempt any other non-financial uses of copyright law, does it? (Is it still forbidden to ship stuff between markets against the wishes of the copyright holder, or was…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>western freedoms...Please Steal This...</p></blockquote><p>Yes, Mark, and while China has made significant moves in the right direction when it comes to copyright and intellectual property (giving credit where credit is due)  can you please give the 'eat shit hypocritical Western capitalist running dogs' routine a rest?  </p><p>Believe me, there are…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 18:23:38 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p><em>No. It's specifically exempted.</em></p><p>Wait, isn't the bill technology neutral? What about the "specific exemptions" that will be required for stuff that hasn't yet been invented?</p></blockquote><p>The reasoning was that technology intended merely to control geographic pricing was no business of copyright law. So there is actually a principle behind…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 17:20:44 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p><em>I'm sure all parties to debate around the bill will be thinking that it could have been worse</em></p><p>Bollocks. This has to be one of the shittiest pieces of legislation relating to technology for a long time.</p></blockquote><p>The depressing thing, I think was the inability of the select committee to…</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>No, they were heavy with the weight of 400 Years Of Slavery ...</p></blockquote><p>Wow, that is heavy. I pity the fool who wears that around his neck.</p>
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>No. It's specifically exempted.</p></blockquote><p>Wait, isn't the bill technology neutral? What about the "specific exemptions" that will be required for stuff that hasn't yet been invented?</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 17:15:05 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>InternationalObserver</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm ... suspended in a spa pool filled with goo and utterly out of my tree.</p></blockquote><p>Oh. I was expecting to see <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTqFXfn3kdo&amp;feature=related" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this</a>! (possibly NSFW, depending)</p><p>And if you liked/hated that, then <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpW1O8iOTqE" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this</a> is better.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 17:09:38 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>InternationalObserver</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But come to think of it, his chains never seemed to bounce around when he ran &ndash; maybe he glued them on?</p></blockquote><p>No, they were heavy with the weight of 400 Years Of Slavery ...</p><p>Does anyone else remember the shortlived movement in the rap community to forego 'gold ropes', in…</p>
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				<title>mark taslov</title>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>If you're getting your plumber to install your broadband then I'm surprised you made it online. You're probably surfing by some sort of complicated water reticulation system.</p></blockquote><p>OK, time to come out of the closet.  [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rUqpPbxGzc|lI'm  part human, part machine, suspended in a spa pool filled with goo and utterly…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>So, can I assume that the region-free DVD player I've had for the past five years is now an uber-felonious TPM-spoiler?</p></blockquote><p>No. It's secifically exempted.</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Isn't physical media going to be obsolete in 10 years or less?</p></blockquote><p>Seem to remember hearing that 10 years ago.</p><blockquote><p>It's the hour every morning to put it on, and then more time in the evening to clean it all that was bizarre. He must have been _really_ slow at…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Jonathan Ibell</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And finally, Freeview users can tonight (9.30, TVNZ7) see the second Media7... I'll put up the links tomorrow.</p></blockquote><p>Can I suggest that TVNZ looks to making some improvements to the podcasts of the show?</p><p>1. why not supply a copy of the whole progamme via this format? It's probably far…</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>LOL, I never realized his gold was all nicked. But if it came to asking him for my gold back I guess I'd probably just take a pass too.</p></blockquote><p>It's the hour every morning to put it on, and then more time in the evening to clean it all that…</p>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<blockquote><p>if you want to play your DVD on anything other than an RIAA approved platform</p></blockquote><p>Guess I won't be buying my first DVD for a while then..</p><p>Isn't physical media going to be obsolete in 10 years or less?</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 14:11:09 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm sure all parties to debate around the bill will be thinking that it could have been worse</p></blockquote><p>Bollocks. This has to be one of the shittiest pieces of legislation relating to technology for a long time. Kiss the chances of any innovation goodbye and if you want to play…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 14:03:45 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						LOL, I never realized his gold was all nicked. But if it came to asking him for my gold back I guess I'd probably just take a pass too.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 14:03:41 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						<p>...Ah copyright. The desperate, hopeless and pointless fight against piracy continues...</p><p>A report in the Media Guardian this week ("Home copying--burnt into teenage psyche", Monday 7 April) cites a survey by the British Music Rights that showed that 95% of 1,158 Brits surveyed 'engaged in some form of copying'</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 13:59:00 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>as long as the water is carried by a series of tubes. then your upload can get deliveried via a fat pipe.</p></blockquote><p>So, in conclusion, Craig's house is  just a massive bong?</p>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Meanwhile, I find it amusing that the New Zealand Institute's FibreCo proposal, which has won the backing of David Farrar, Bernard Hickey and Rod Drury seems a bit, well, socialist to me.</p></blockquote><p>I don't see Mr Drury as any sort of political partisan? In terms of David Farrar, it's interesting…</p>
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				<title>Socrates</title>
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						<blockquote><p>but put it on the web for free/cheap? the thing's now on my high-rotation list, and i'm thinking of buying the artwork to go with it. and more importantly i'm telling everyone how much i like it.<br />tell me that's a model your copyright/DRM fanatics would support.</p></blockquote><p>I think the…</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<p>Also, occasionally Craig's posts sink into the gutter in a very creative (almost poetic)  way.</p><p>Now we know why. It's not Craig, his plumber is just running his broadband and his sewage through the same pipe.</p><p>So Craig is about to post some angelic, clean-as-a-whistle, G-rated post, but as he…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 13:45:41 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>samuel walker</title>
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						<blockquote><p>If you're getting your plumber to install your broadband then I'm surprised you made it online. You're probably surfing by some sort of complicated water reticulation system.</p></blockquote><p>lols,</p><p>as long as the water is carried by a series of tubes. then your upload can get deliveried via a fat pipe.…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 13:37:29 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>InternationalObserver</title>
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						<blockquote>Rubbish, you ain't no Fool, fool. Fight u for it!</blockquote>Heh heh. Since you're referencing <strong>Mr T</strong> I should point out (apropos of nothing, but tangentially related to those other threads on the China FTA ie have we sold out?) that <blockquote>In 2005, Mr. T stated that he never would wear…</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 13:32:33 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Caleb D&#039;Anvers</title>
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						So, can I assume that the region-free DVD player I've had for the past five years is now an uber-felonious TPM-spoiler?
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 13:29:32 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>linger</title>
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						<blockquote>improbable piles of information</blockquote> Which is what you get from sitting on a throne.
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Well, for some time now I've seen myself as the PAS Fool.<br />As you do.</p></blockquote><p>Rubbish, you ain't no Fool, fool. Fight u for it!</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 13:03:47 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						On FibreCo, my first response was "not another uncompetitive no-incentive-to-invest network company!"   But on review, there seems to be no unregulated model that is going to get us that investment &ndash; if we don't create a national fibre backbone entity, I can't see any private firm that is going to,…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 13:03:27 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Lyndon Hood</title>
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						<blockquote>For some reason an image of an anime Yamato, crewed by a Japanese looking RIANZ crew, cruising the blogsphere looking for mirrors with a Linux/DVD's combo popped into my head.</blockquote>If it helps, the "king of the blogsphere" talk made me think of an animated R Brown kitted out with crown…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 12:50:30 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote>I shouldn't mock &ndash; getting the broadband hooked up was enough drama, so we're probably going to do the same. And I hope we're not going to have better luck than the last go round with the plumber who came to come around to fix the hash the last one…</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 12:43:14 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>InternationalObserver</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Does that make us his loyal servants?</p></blockquote><p>Well, for some time now I've seen myself as the PAS Fool. <br />As you do. <br />(But having just wiki'd The Fool perhaps I'm just The Village Idiot)</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 12:39:48 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<p>For some reason an image of an anime Yamato, crewed by a Japanese looking RIANZ crew, cruising the blogsphere looking for mirrors with a Linux/DVD's combo popped into my head.</p><br /><br /><p>Weird.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 12:35:15 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Plumbers who make hash? The North Shore is such a crazy place.</p></blockquote><p>Should have made the incompetent numpty cook lunch, now you mention it.  He sure couldn't install a hot water heater worth a twopenny toss.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 12:29:52 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Bob Munro</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Does that make us his loyal servants?</p></blockquote><p>Serfs?</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 12:21:48 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jim Cathcart</title>
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						I agree with Paul Robeson in that we can't watch Media 7 from overseas. I'm very interested to see what Bernard Hickey has to say.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 12:21:25 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<blockquote><p>you can take the CD to a librarian or a teacher who ... will use a TPM circumvention device to rip it for you</p></blockquote><p>Somewhere, in a school in New Zealand...</p><p>"Miss! Miss! Can you rip this CD for me, Miss? My brother wanted to do it, but the Governor-General…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 12:18:01 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And I hope we're not going to have better luck than the last go round with the plumber who came to come around to fix the hash the last one made.</p></blockquote><p>Plumbers who make hash? The North Shore is such a crazy place.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 12:14:03 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>What if its as simple as holding down a key when the disk is inserted in a computer?</p></blockquote><p>The copyright police will be around to seize your stuff later today.</p>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						Or  more properly anyone who hosts a Linux distro mirror (like Ubuntu) that contains a DVD player is probably now breaking the law
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 12:07:34 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						On the other hand any linux distribution with a DVD player in it is probably now illegal in NZ
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 12:06:02 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>InternationalObserver</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I thought yo' mama couldn't even hook up her Freeview box. Come on, did you expect me to resist a set up like that? :)<br /><em><br />She had a chap in to do it. She may actually be the first Freeview HD user on the Kapiti Coast.</em></p></blockquote><p>She had to __get…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 12:05:19 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>FletcherB</title>
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						<p>BTW....  how do the special authorized TPM breakers learn how to do it if no-one's allowed to tell them how?</p><p>What if its as simple as holding down a key when the disk is inserted in a computer? Will Dell/Apple/Microsoft et-al be prosecuted for issuing user manuals for their products?…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 12:04:46 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>She had a chap in to do it</p></blockquote><p>I shouldn't mock &ndash; getting the broadband hooked up was enough drama, so we're probably going to do the same.  And I hope we're not going to have better luck than the last go round with the plumber who came to come…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 12:03:45 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>FletcherB</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I won't be able to help you though. I think …</p><p>(3) A person (A) must not publish information enabling or assisting another person to circumvent a technological protection measure if A intends that the information will be used to infringe copyright in a TPM work.</p></blockquote><p>Well, I'm not a…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 11:58:39 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Withers</title>
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						<p>Looks like another law the vast majority of people will be blissfully unaware of as they go about their business moving songs from CDs.wherever to MP3 players and/or including bits and pieces of them in their own compilations, videos and mash-ups. </p><p>Am I the only one to notice the chilling…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 11:38:29 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Che Tibby</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Ah copyright. The desperate, hopeless and pointless fight against piracy continues...</p></blockquote><p>i refer you to radiohead's latest album.</p><p>how many of you would have actually purchased the album at $35 to "give it a chance"? especially after the last two conceptual pieces...</p><p>but put it on the web for free/cheap?…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I thought yo' mama couldn't even hook up her Freeview box. Come on, did you expect me to resist a set up like that? :)</p></blockquote><p>She had a chap in to do it. She may actually be the first Freeview HD user on the Kapiti Coast.</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Further on the fibre fo' yo' mama tip...</p></blockquote><p>I thought yo' mama couldn't even hook up her Freeview box. Come on, did you expect me to resist a set up like that? :)</p><blockquote><p>it's perhaps the inevitable fate of copyright law that it will neither fully deliver on the expectations…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 11:26:31 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Robeson</title>
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						hey Russ whats the chance of getting Media 7 (and any of that ondemand stuff actually) outside NZ? I suppose that we sell some shows overseas. Is this why TVNZ can't release eating media lunch etc etc and it always comes up for NZ viewers only?
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 11:26:20 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>For reasons that aren't clear to me, the name of the bill was also changed, from the windier Copyright (New Technologies and Performers' Rights) Amendment Bill.</p></blockquote><p>Ironic that the bit that came out was performers rights, the bit that public support is more on. What's left in is new technologies,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 11:21:05 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						Ah copyright. The desperate, hopeless and pointless fight against piracy continues...
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 11:08:22 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Public Address</title>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 11:08:22 +1200</pubDate>
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