Hard News: Yet More Hobbit
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can you point me to any finished ANZ film that has been fully finanically backed by Peter Jackson?
Sorry, Islander, I keep missing the point of your argument - exactly what would Peter Jackson fully funding a film (when he doesn't even do that for his own films) prove for you?
Time and time again on this thread, you have already been given examples of how Peter Jackson has supported the local industry. I really don't understand what your beef is.
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Sonal Patel - no, I havent been given examples of how Peter Jackson has supported 'the local industry.'
My beef is this: an up-himself person, who buys a $65 million jet, drips teensy bits of finance into what is supposed to be his passion - film in ANZ. He is - by those actions or lack of them- - a wanker. I despise him. -
I despise him.
*sigh* Well then there's nothing I can say or show that will ever satisfy you.
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Ae, ka tika.
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I havent been given examples of how Peter Jackson has supported 'the local industry.'
Yes, you have. Pretending otherwise is not helping the discussion.
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no, I havent been given examples of how Peter Jackson has supported 'the local industry.'
You replied to the post in which Eleanor did exactly that.
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Irish Equity, which after long and patient lobbying, has just achieved the right for contractor members to bargain collectively -- by convincing their government to amend competition law to allow for collective bargaining in some circumstances.
They worked out what they needed, and they worked towards it.
savvier negotiators, then
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SteveH - miniscule support.A bloke who spends $65 million on a flying hotel and - somethingless than an hour's interest of that amount on supporting a local techie = bugger all. And. bugger that.
Jackson's heart is in long-ago films that are not pertinent to this part of the world. And any person who accepts a title from an irrelevent monarchy - who would abnegate themself to Liz Windsor?-is lower than a toadstool far as I'm concerned. -
You've nailed it Idiot/Savant - and so, now, will the tide of righteous & silly indignation sweep over the current guvmint?
FFS, Islander, if Penguin and Random House shut down their NZ operations and chose to commission and edit their Kiwi list from an office in London (incidentally putting hundreds out of work), would you regard anger from the literary community as "righteous and silly indignation"?
I get that you wouldn't piss on Peter Jackson's head if it was on fire, but would it be that hard to acknowledge that there are a lot of people who have good reason to be pissed off?
ETA: Something else, you might find Spartacus totally "irrelevant" from your cultural nationalistic perspective. I know people who are pretty fucking grateful the American network didn't decide to cancel the show when the lead actor's cancer recurred, because that gig is putting food on their tables (and in their kids bellies).
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Sonal Patel - no, I havent been given examples of how Peter Jackson has supported 'the local industry.'
You've actually been given many examples in the course of this thread.
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I'm sure a number of people will be deluding themselves with that reasoning over the next few days.
Helen Kelly for one, on morning report. Not a good idea to treat every issue as a battle in the class war.
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Helen Kelly for one, on morning report. Not a good idea to treat every issue as a battle in the class war.
Ah yes... greedy foreign multi-national corporates and their blood-sucking leech shareholders!
Meanwhile, I'd love someone to ask Ms. Kelly what the CTU's position would be if film production tax credits were increased while other constituent union members (in health, education etc.) are being told the public cupboard is bare? Mr Shit, can I introduce you to Ms. Fan?
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I'd love someone to ask Ms. Kelly what the CTU's...
I infered from her tone that she wouldn't be keen. It's other people who think it would be a good idea if the govt signallled at this point that it wouldn't mind getting into a subisdy bidding war.
The studios were quite happy to make the films here with the 15%. Making that the issue isn't helpful to put it mildy and it's getting past the point when it can be put down to naivity.
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Being told that the SAG boycott has -- apparently, there's no notice of any kind -- been lifted was simply bizarre. What a disgraceful shambles.
FWIW, there is no SAG advisory lifting the notice. If there was, it would be here:
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FWIW, there is no SAG advisory lifting the notice. If there was, it would be here
My head is spinning at high speed listening to Morning Report, but did I hear Helen Kelly saying Richard Taylor should have told the "technicians" something she couldn't because of a confidentiality agreement?
W. T. F.
(BTW, could you imagine Kelly's reaction if a minister or employer served up this horseshit pie (h/t @LewStoddart via Twitter):
But Council of Trade Unions president Helen Kelly said the crowd was "in a lynch-mob mood thanks to Richard Taylor, who has obviously wound them up like springs" and actors had to call the meeting off. "It was too dangerous."
Again: W.T.F. If Ann Tolley refused to front up to a meeting because her safety was compromised by those uppity teachers "in a lynch-mob mood thanks to people like Helen Kelly", she'd be the first one to call bullshit. I also suspect 'harden the fuck up, bitch, we've got a lot to be angry about' would be muttered under a lot of people's breaths.
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Again: W.T.F.
Ahem. 1500 working people convene to march for their livelihoods. Best not be calling it a "lynch mob".
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Unions. Aren't they just great?
"This is going to damage the entire union movement.'
After this performance of union genius, one can only hope so. NZ can't afford too much more of this kind brilliant strategic thinking, or allowing themselves to be used as pawns by of all nationalities, an Australian, whichever has been the case here.
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Actually, James, as it happens, I'm quite fond of my union. If it weren't for them, Primary and Kindergarten and Early Childhood teachers would be, in this hostile Tolleyesque environment, rooted.
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It helps that your kindergarten cannot be moved to Ireland.
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Jackie, apparently there are more than a few people in Wellington who probably don't share your enthusiasm for unions.
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Unions. Aren't they just great?
Being a big fan of freedom of association for everyone, trade unions aren't that high on my Unspeakable Evil league table. Incompetent and mendacious ones that seem incapable of running a gang bang in a whorehouse - slightly more problematic.
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We used to be the cheapest and most compliant. Now we are neither, Randolph Hurst II has thrown his toys out his Waiarapa cot and is moving the movie offshore.
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Helen Kelly for one, on morning report. Not a good idea to treat every issue as a battle in the class war.
The class war aspect (brought up by The Standard, too, at the beginning of all this) makes me laugh: for the hundreds of technicians who marched last night -- the hard-bitten, hard-working foot soldiers that lug lights, fire up generators, move trucks, cook hot food and get the set going hours before the actors arrive each day -- to be lumped in with 'management' aligning against the 'workers', the actors -- actors! -- is risible.
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Randolph Hurst II has thrown his toys out his Waiarapa cot and is moving the movie offshore.
Last time I looked, that call is up to Warner Brothers and Jackson ultimately has no more say in it than Martin Campbell did about Green Lantern being moved from Sydney to New Orleans. If you want to make "Randolph Hurst" (sic - William Randolph Hearst, darling) cracks perhaps you should be directing them at Time Warner CEO Jeffrey Bewkes.
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We used to be the cheapest and most compliant. Now we are neither, Randolph Hurst II has thrown his toys out his Waiarapa cot and is moving the movie offshore.
Just keep on believing that, Tom.
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