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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						Took a ride with a Hamilton friend on Sunday, in light rain, before we set off to see Clara Bow at The Civic* Initially took a right at the Alford Street bridge and travelled as far as we could go (even skirted  a barrier or two) but wished we could…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2017 21:44:47 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Stuart Young</title>
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						I understand that the New Lynn to Avondale shared path has been delayed by the fact that Kiwirail vetoed a rail crossing at the junction with St Georges Road as too dangerous and the plans had to be redone, now with an underpass. That implies a major delay for the…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2017 12:06:07 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Logan O&#039;Callahan</title>
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						<p>I'm looking forward to using the Alford St bridge for the next 8 weeks. I'll be cycling west from Pt Chev to New Lynn each morning, and it will cut off the lower part of Gt North Rd with that terrible piece of footpath.</p><p>Why do cycle ways meander, while…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2017 11:29:32 +1200</pubDate>
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						Took the Alford Street bridge on my ride in this morning, was a nice cut of my least favourite bit &ndash; that run down around the corner Gt Nth Rd > NW Cycleway &ndash; and I reckon the meander thru Unitec to the crossing on Carrington is a mite flatter…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2017 12:01:18 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>I hope all the curmudgeonly old farts who go on about the RMA being a lot of PC lefty nonsense strangling all possible development will check this all out. </q></p><p>But isn't the irony that all this was a result of the Board of Inquiry, which was Joyce's bid to bypass…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2017 07:29:23 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ben Boo</title>
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						<p>Meanwhile in Wellington UCP money is spent on car park renovation...<br /><a href="https://twitter.com/tohora/status/889952728226471936" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://twitter.com/tohora/status/889952728226471936</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2017 23:03:46 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>LeighKennaway</title>
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						I hope all the curmudgeonly old farts who go on about the RMA being a lot of PC lefty nonsense strangling all possible development will check this all out. It was a long and often painful process, but it is great to see that several communities have stood up to…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2017 21:15:39 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Moz</title>
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						<p><q> rejection of my bid to join a local social cycling group because I have an ebike ... "when Dylan went electric (s"</q></p><p>I love that line, it's in one of my favourite Urthboy tracks: <a href="https://youtu.be/cB_ZkHGMoII?t=117" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://youtu.be/cB_ZkHGMoII?t=117</a> (decent audio player suggested)</p><p>ebikes on social rides shouldn't be an issue I would have…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2017 20:55:36 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						<p>Must bring my bike up this weekend and go for a spin.<br /> I told a story when I was chatting with Jesse M on Bookmarks last week, about the crushing rejection of my bid to join a local  social cycling group because I have an ebike. Said it felt a…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2017 17:28:52 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Is that right (all the way to Mangere Bridge)? I hadn’t realised you could get that far. That is quite something.</q></p><p>Yep. It stops for a few crossings along the way, but it's traffic-free.</p><p>Well, almost. Taking the cheap option a few years ago with the stretch from Hillsborough Road…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2017 14:57:51 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sam M</title>
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						Is that right (all the way to Mangere Bridge)?  I hadn't realised you could get that far.  That is quite something.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2017 14:45:50 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>but it would be impossible to climb on the arch anyway.</q><br />Oh I dunno, 'Impossible' is a red rag to some &ndash; some kind of electromagnetic or suction glove and knee pad arrangement might be worth a crack &ndash; or even something strong and porous that could use the spikes…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2017 14:41:06 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>The Builders...</strong><br />Nowadays down here in Chchch we know a thing or two about infrastructure, it is no longer infra dig to the masses.</p><p>We have seen it in all kinds of states, <br />and seen not a lot of connected thinking/planning,<br />coupled with disaster capitalism and ‘people-who-know-best’.</p><p>Witness when you…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2017 14:30:26 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<q>This may not be the place to ask, but does anyone know what is going on with the path from this bit through to New Lynn? It is on the Council AT Website as a project but there has been no updates for over a year and no progress that…</q>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2017 14:27:56 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p><q>Never underestimate the power of “Teh stupids” to give it a try. ;-)</q></p><p><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/waikato-times/news/3323376/Judge-shocked-at-bikers-bridge-stunt" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Indeed.</a></p><p>Not the first time this bridge had become a pathway for two wheelers.  Way back, in the post war era, an old friend was horrified when neighbours informed her that Number Two Son, all of eight…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2017 14:08:08 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sam M</title>
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						This may not be the place to ask, but does anyone know what is going on with the path from this bit through to New Lynn?  It is on the Council AT Website as a project but there has been no updates for over a year and no progress that…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2017 14:02:00 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Dave Waugh</title>
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						<p>Impossible?<br />Never underestimate the power of "Teh stupids" to give it a try.  ;-)</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>The “feathers” detail I would suspect is a “this’ll stop the buggers climbing up here” feature…. that or a variant on the anti bird installations you see all over the show in Wellington CBD.</q></p><p>I guess that might be the case – but it would be impossible to climb on…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2017 13:43:49 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>That’s a very low balustrade, on the bridge that crosses the exposed motorway!</p><p>I’d have thought they would have applied the same thinking and structures that now stop people throwing things, or themselves, off Grafton Bridge.*</q></p><p>Yeah,interesting point – especially when you look at what was done over the Pink…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2017 13:42:17 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rickai</title>
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						Agree with everything you’ve said Russell.  Went along on Sunday with the family – very impressive.  Two small gripes – the blue bridge has some unpainted steel which I think detrimentally affects its look and the brown/orange stain on the concrete by the motorway can be rubbed off with fingers.…
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p>That's a very low balustrade, on the bridge that crosses the exposed motorway!</p><p>I'd have thought they would have applied the same thinking and structures that now stop people throwing things, or themselves, off Grafton Bridge.*</p><p><br /><strong></strong>*<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_AO6JhmNDM" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_AO6JhmNDM</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2017 13:27:14 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						Oh and did you notice how the handrails on the bridges are at bike height!
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				<title>Moz</title>
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						<p>That all looks awesome.</p><p>I fear the chicanes are there to stop load bikes and people with trailers. They look inconvenient, but with my quad bike they'd be just about impossible. Quad and trailer is expressly designed to let me sit a 2.4x1.2m sheet of plywood on top of it,…</p>
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				<title>Dave Waugh</title>
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						The "feathers" detail I would suspect is a "this'll stop the buggers climbing up here" feature.... that or a variant on the anti bird installations you see all over the show in Wellington CBD.
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p>We also spent Sunday riding all over these paths. Absolutely love the new bridges and love they way they are all different &ndash; they almost become art pieces on the landscape.</p><p>We (I) goofed riding east and ended up on the old footpath which follows the creek and isn't really…</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>And, unfashionable as it might be to say so, the Waterview Connection is doing its job of taking traffic off local roads. That might not last, but it's very welcome for now.</q></p><p>Hell yeah! Mt Albert road is significantly quieter now. Quiet enough even to consider a proper cycle path…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>So, Friday we did the Waterveiw….and either I’m in recovery, or this is an especially well designed piece of infrastructure. </q></p><p>And, unfashionable as it might be to say so, the Waterview Connection is doing its job of taking traffic off local roads. That might not last, but it's very welcome…</p>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p>Coincidentally, as you were taking your photos Russell, I was driving our Bus through The Tunnel.</p><p>I have a more than slight tunnel and bridge phobia...so Peter, as The Navigator, tries to desensitize me by plotting journeys so they encompass as many of these structures as possible.</p><p>So, Friday we…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Some more on day one <a href="https://www.bikeauckland.org.nz/te-whitinga-rises-new-southwestern-shared-path/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">from Bike Auckland</a>.</p><p>And from the same site, <a href="https://www.bikeauckland.org.nz/connecting-whenua-bridge-waterview/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">a look at the opening of the Alford Street bridge</a>.</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						And that panorama at full size. (Just click.)
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						The present end of the path at Unitec. Coming soon …
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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