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Jack Harrison

Mon, 08 Jun 2015 20:48:43 +1200

Our media pool has been well and truly shat in. Man, I love good journalism,like 50"s America liked Rock n Roll. I love this pool here, so clean. Well done R.B

Rich of Observationz

Mon, 08 Jun 2015 12:54:29 +1200

Police are taking a cautious approach

As generally the case when the perp is part of the ruling party.

Alfie

Sat, 06 Jun 2015 13:30:31 +1200

Here's the online video courtesy TV3.

Alfie

Sat, 06 Jun 2015 12:19:28 +1200

The Rachinger story featured on The Nation today — oddly, I can't locate an online version on the TV3 site. The Herald has a summary of the claims.
The IT consultant posted his claims on the internet earlier this year, and this morning The Nation broadcast an interview with him, detailing…

Kumara Republic

Wed, 27 May 2015 16:59:03 +1200

It was a quite bizarre interlude which now seems to be over.

“The user deleted their Medium account”

Damn… I was looking forward to a happy ending.

According to the Twitterverse, Rachinger took it down because of legal threats, and that he's 'over the whole thing and others are taking…

Sacha

Wed, 27 May 2015 16:24:57 +1200

He has apparently turned his material over to a journalist instead.

Alfie

Wed, 27 May 2015 16:11:01 +1200

Speaking of children in need parental supervision, is anyone tuned into this Ben Rachinger thing. Seems so very crazy.
It was a quite bizarre interlude which now seems to be over.

"The user deleted their Medium account"

Damn... I was looking forward to a happy ending.

Stewart

Fri, 08 May 2015 14:13:53 +1200

Key's determination about the flag is just him wanting a re-branding of NZ/Aotearoa with something more brand-specific and instantly recognisable.

Steve Barnes

Fri, 08 May 2015 12:47:46 +1200

So what about the jolly old jolly roger?
Alan Gibbs used to fly one on his gin palace, Laissez-faire . He also carried a cannon on the fore deck. As far as I can tell, both of those things were illegal but then he was Allan Gibbs and has lots…

izogi

Thu, 07 May 2015 22:25:06 +1200

Looking further it's probably somewhere in the Ship Registration Act. I'm just interpreting this by myself, which means I'm probably wrong.

I can see:

* S58 says that all NZ registered ships (which covers most ships >=24 metres that aren't registered in other countries) have to fly the either NZ…

nzlemming

Thu, 07 May 2015 19:06:26 +1200

The online Gazette database doesn’t seem to have a very good search mechanism,

Everytime I look at it I think "this is a good candidate for a #GovHack"

izogi

Thu, 07 May 2015 17:55:38 +1200

Apparently the Minister can make rules about the manner in which the flag is to be flown, either "by notice in the Gazette or otherwise".

The online Gazette database doesn't seem to have a very good search mechanism, but if [[https://gazette.govt.nz/home/NoticeSearch?sortField=Act&sortOrder=ASC&start=131568|I browse the notices, sort alphabetically by Act and click through to…

Rich of Observationz

Thu, 07 May 2015 12:19:28 +1200

Unregistered boats are not alowed to fly any national flags

Reference please: http://legislation.govt.nz/????

Steve Barnes

Thu, 07 May 2015 12:03:34 +1200

Meanwhile, back on Planet Key...
This from a cuppla years back..
Money trail leads home to New Zealand
NICKY HAGER
The comments are interesting, as is the article.

Joe Wylie

Wed, 06 May 2015 23:01:32 +1200

We’re getting to be a whiny, complainy, almost seditious wee bunch….

Thank goodness :)

And unlike so many online opinionfests, all pretty civil so far.

Rob Stowell

Wed, 06 May 2015 22:50:45 +1200

We’re getting to be a whiny, complainy, almost seditious wee bunch….

Thank goodness :)

Rosemary McDonald

Wed, 06 May 2015 22:21:36 +1200

http://www.standfor.co.nz/#entries

We're getting to be a whiny, complainy, almost seditious wee bunch....

Ben Austin

Wed, 06 May 2015 22:20:42 +1200

So it is useful for boats. Ok, do we have any demonstrated examples of New Zealand boats or ships having issues, solely due to the confusion between our flag and Australia's?

Sacha

Wed, 06 May 2015 15:51:13 +1200

brv!

Ian Dalziel

Wed, 06 May 2015 14:59:54 +1200

Ritual self-disemvoweling
the first cut is the deepest...

Soon Lee

Wed, 06 May 2015 11:31:12 +1200

Sppk

(Ritual self-disemvoweling found elseweb & too good not to share)

Joe Wylie

Wed, 06 May 2015 11:20:20 +1200

“Sir John Key, the man that gave us our flag”

Give him one of these.

Steve Barnes

Wed, 06 May 2015 10:24:15 +1200

What is the point of a flag, these days,

Which was kind of my point. As our esteemed PM says "At the end of the day we live in a global world". However mangled and tautological that statement maybe it does make his stand on the flag rather hypocritical and…

Ben Austin

Wed, 06 May 2015 04:41:37 +1200

Actually, that is a good question. What is the point of a flag, these days, as opposed to the historic or recreational yachting reasons? I'm not convinced that it necessarily has a single, useful reason for existence, which, if it is recognition, why it is so important uninformed strangers can…

linger

Tue, 05 May 2015 22:02:12 +1200

We should be able to focus on two things.yes, but there are always going to be many things in reality … just about everything, actually! … more important than wasting time on a mere symbol, and it would be nice if we could focus on at least a few of…

izogi

Tue, 05 May 2015 21:48:04 +1200

Also, the “how can we spend money on trivia before world hunger has been solved” argument is a bit dubious

For me it's not the consideration of a new flag which annoys me as the way in which it's been deployed by politicians at strategic times in ways which distract…

Steve Barnes

Tue, 05 May 2015 14:37:25 +1200

Yes Rich, we need a flag to fight for, we need a flag that is recognisably different to Australia in case we get mistaken for Aussies.
Joking aside.
Canada had this flag until 1965.
Now, of course, it is the Maple leaf, celebrating Maple Syrup for the pancakes of the…

Rich of Observationz

Tue, 05 May 2015 14:27:59 +1200

I'm a bit conflicted here, since, as a general rule, everything the government does or proposes is wrong by definition.

However our flag isn't really fit for purpose, given that the whole idea of flags is that they are easily recognisable, and depending on angle and light, ours could be…

Steve Barnes

Tue, 05 May 2015 14:06:51 +1200

Anyhoo, I thought I'd raise the Flag here...
I just put a post up here (What I stand for) voicing my displeasure at the ponytail pulling plonker rushing to spend our money on changing the flag so he can claim some sort of legacy to his mismanagement.
My…

Alfie

Tue, 05 May 2015 14:02:48 +1200

Is he a sock-puppet of some kind who's been here before under a different name?
A not-so-distant relation to Stamper Stamp perhaps?

Kumara Republic

Tue, 05 May 2015 13:06:17 +1200

Sorry folks. I was a bit distracted today. This is pure trolling. Gone.

Any idea who he was? Is he a sock-puppet of some kind who's been here before under a different name?

simon g

Tue, 05 May 2015 10:53:39 +1200

What have you done? Dump him off PA and he's gone back to the Herald.

"I'm funny, me!"

Er, no. Only the comedy trombone and laugh track was missing.

Russell Brown

Mon, 04 May 2015 22:59:29 +1200

Sorry folks. I was a bit distracted today. This is pure trolling. Gone.

nzlemming

Mon, 04 May 2015 22:29:21 +1200

Go the canes…

roflnui

Ian Dalziel

Mon, 04 May 2015 22:10:25 +1200

Saints alive...
...stranded on the median strip
Everyone's on a spectrum of some sort....

visually impaired individual who once demanded that I help him across Sydney’s William Street, right outside the old Institute for the Blind
Go the canes....

:- )

Joe Wylie

Mon, 04 May 2015 22:00:42 +1200

Don’t waste your wit on twits,
etc.
Surely even the irritatingly disabled warrant our compassion. That said, a particularly obnoxious visually impaired individual who once demanded that I help him across Sydney's William Street, right outside the old Institute for the Blind, has only my good nature to thank that…

izogi

Mon, 04 May 2015 21:46:21 +1200

his four stock ‘terms’ are becoming progressively more incoherent

They weren’t much better than that before the previous election, either. This morning’s interview was a train wreck for the Prime Minister, who at times sounded as if he was barely concentrating, but those who’ve made up their mind were either…

fredster jones

Mon, 04 May 2015 20:58:58 +1200

s t grn t nd thn ff t bd y pnks?

Sacha

Mon, 04 May 2015 20:30:42 +1200

What we really need is an uncantation that makes trolls disappear

ritual disemvoweling may hlp

Sacha

Mon, 04 May 2015 20:29:28 +1200

t b sr

Sacha

Mon, 04 May 2015 20:28:36 +1200

a man of consonant sorrow

cry me a rivr

Joe Wylie

Mon, 04 May 2015 20:26:58 +1200

mea culpa.

And top o' the ad hominem to you too sir.

Ian Dalziel

Mon, 04 May 2015 20:23:29 +1200

Maybe sampling Stairway to Heaven backwards and then reversing it again.

Spooky, I was trying to ‘work’ in a Boleskine House reference, but it just wouldn’t take form…

Sacha

Mon, 04 May 2015 20:17:08 +1200

nay, illustrative

Ian Dalziel

Mon, 04 May 2015 20:15:48 +1200

Considering the title it’s ironic where this thread has gone
mea culpa.

Rich of Observationz

Mon, 04 May 2015 20:02:41 +1200

As depicted in Jake Arnott's book the House of Rumour. What we really need is an uncantation that makes trolls disappear – I fear that somebody on here is inadvertently using a summoning spell at the moment.

Maybe sampling Stairway to Heaven backwards and then reversing it again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbNqeDr5mlQ

BenWilson

Mon, 04 May 2015 19:46:25 +1200

Considering the title it's ironic where this thread has gone.

John Farrell

Mon, 04 May 2015 19:15:30 +1200

A man of constant sorrow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDA708XlFIo

Ian Dalziel

Mon, 04 May 2015 18:34:31 +1200

a man of consonant sorrow
Wll dn Rch. Gt t rght t yr scnd ttmpt.
It started with a 'turd'
and turned into
a 'vowel movement'

andin

Mon, 04 May 2015 18:18:22 +1200

There is a standard 3 spelling qualification?
Who knew...
Oh, you.

Rosemary McDonald

Mon, 04 May 2015 18:05:04 +1200

All language is magic.

Don't waste your wit on twits,
Don't waste your wit on twits,
Don't waste your wit on twits,
etc.

nzlemming

Mon, 04 May 2015 17:45:20 +1200

Have you read all 5466* of them?

That is so, so weird. I suspect shenanigans...

Ian Dalziel

Mon, 04 May 2015 17:31:09 +1200

Blue meanies...
You bitter pinkies must pay more attention in your spelling classes
I'm from Sydenham, a magickal place where spells are done by the 'working class' – nothing as big as The Babalon Working* mind you ...

*and Jack Parsons was an actual Rocket Scientist!

All language is magic.…

Joe Wylie

Mon, 04 May 2015 17:16:58 +1200

I’m thinking of getting a T-shirt done
– maybe like the Beagle Boys ones…

Still impressed after all these years by the classy machine-knitted Beagle Boys jumpers that early Proud Scum sported. Way before orange was the new black they had the colour matched perfectly.

fredster jones

Mon, 04 May 2015 17:04:48 +1200

Wll dn Rch. Gt t rght t yr scnd ttmpt.

Ian Dalziel

Mon, 04 May 2015 17:04:36 +1200

Have you read all 5466* of them
I'm thinking of getting a T-shirt done
– maybe like the Beagle Boys ones...

*and counting – but not – his story repeating...?

fredster jones

Mon, 04 May 2015 17:03:33 +1200

Wht ds "dn'r" mn rch? Y bttr pnks mst py mr ttntn n yr spllng clsss

Rich of Observationz

Mon, 04 May 2015 16:59:15 +1200

Mate, one of the basics of the English language is where you do and don’t use capital letters. The first letter of a name is one of those places.

Another basic of using social networks is knowing when you are welcome. You aren’t. Fuck off.

fredster jones

Mon, 04 May 2015 16:52:40 +1200

I have to say clever again ian

fredster jones

Mon, 04 May 2015 16:49:59 +1200

If you want to contribute to sites such as public address andin, you must learn to spell.

A standard 3 spelling qualification is just not good enough.

Ian Dalziel

Mon, 04 May 2015 16:49:48 +1200

self-indulgent tripe
I am a ruminant*
good to know that you recognise the underbelly of society when it's served up on a plate, I cud go on…

*the second meaning of course!

Your turn to throw an olive branch into the mix.
Well thanks, but, I’m not sure that that’s…

Roger Lacey

Mon, 04 May 2015 16:47:59 +1200

contributors to this site resort to vile ad hominem stuff

Never find that sort of stuff on the right wing sites, do we?

andin

Mon, 04 May 2015 16:43:09 +1200

my core honesty and sharp wit…

Oh what marvelous qualities, it is you have sire!
You free to run a country. Squire?
I hear there is one floating about somewhere
not to far from your rear...
I think
Its pink. OH

Roger Lacey

Mon, 04 May 2015 16:40:05 +1200

Dal Boy…….unlike alfie, linger, rob and steve whose efforts are mildly commendable, your efforts are always, without exception, self-indulgent tripe

Have you read all 5466* of them?

Steve Barnes

Mon, 04 May 2015 16:34:47 +1200

3: ‘whatever’
4: ‘Pfffftt’

Trust you to come out with the fart joke Ian.

fredster jones

Mon, 04 May 2015 16:32:01 +1200

actually, very clever Ian. Your turn to throw an olive branch into the mix.

fredster jones

Mon, 04 May 2015 16:29:58 +1200

Upon re-reading, I have to admit your four-term key contribution is clever. See, I do call it as fairly as I am accurate.

fredster jones

Mon, 04 May 2015 16:25:01 +1200

Dal Boy.......unlike alfie, linger, rob and steve whose efforts are mildly commendable, your efforts are always, without exception, self-indulgent tripe

Ian Dalziel

Mon, 04 May 2015 16:18:03 +1200

a four-term key government.
1: 'at the end of the day'
2: 'actually I don't remember'
3: 'whatever'
4: 'Pfffftt'
his four stock 'terms' are becoming progressively more incoherent.

Ian Dalziel

Mon, 04 May 2015 16:11:00 +1200

Along came…
Let’s not forget Mr Jones is a master of equivocation and the hyperbolical ad hominem attack himself – the start to his last ‘column’ is a classic of the oeuvre:
News broke that the Prime Minister, presumably exercising a perk of office, had seemingly hurled a coffee-shop waitress…

fredster jones

Mon, 04 May 2015 16:07:45 +1200

not forgetting that relic...steve

fredster jones

Mon, 04 May 2015 16:06:58 +1200

not bad efforts rob, linger and alfie. Lacking my core honesty and sharp wit... but what else should I expect from some fairly bitter lefties staring down the barrel of a four-term key government.

Steve Barnes

Mon, 04 May 2015 13:55:28 +1200

Indeed, especially one who can't even spell Fraudster. Fredster pffft.

Alfie

Mon, 04 May 2015 13:35:48 +1200

linger

Mon, 04 May 2015 13:34:33 +1200

Nice of “no-relation” Jones to troll in.
Where were we?
Oh, yeah, almost forgot: how to behave like grown-ups.

Rob Stowell

Mon, 04 May 2015 13:33:05 +1200

Ad infantulatum :)

nzlemming

Mon, 04 May 2015 13:25:10 +1200

Funny how it's ad hominem to call Jones a turd, but it's not ad hominem to call other people "pinkos"...

Steve Barnes

Mon, 04 May 2015 13:01:54 +1200

call the nurse steve

Why? are you that sick?.
Poor thing. Have a cup of tea and a lie down.

fredster jones

Mon, 04 May 2015 12:52:03 +1200

call the nurse steve

Steve Barnes

Mon, 04 May 2015 12:20:25 +1200

Touched upon the truth didn't I

Barely and as even the biggest lies depend on an element of truth then I have to agree.
I am left wondering, however, why you even bothered to write anything on this forum, considering you have little or no respect for the opinions of…

fredster jones

Mon, 04 May 2015 12:10:28 +1200

But why is ad hominem abuse invariably attached to the opinions Rosemary?

Rosemary McDonald

Mon, 04 May 2015 12:07:57 +1200

Watched that show Rosemary.

Maybe....but did you actually listen to what the people said?

I doubt it.

Because you still don't get it.

The only narrative is not yours.

As yet, and I'm sorry (not really) if it disappoints, but the rest of us are allowed opinions too.

fredster jones

Mon, 04 May 2015 12:07:00 +1200

if the cap fits bruce............

Bruce Ward

Mon, 04 May 2015 12:02:50 +1200

pinkos
Told me all about your 'arguments' before I read them!

fredster jones

Mon, 04 May 2015 11:53:18 +1200

Touched upon the truth didn't I Sofie? Hence your abusive, patronising bile.

You can sure give it out Sofie but can you take a bit of your abuse back?

I doubt it.

Sofie Bribiesca

Mon, 04 May 2015 11:49:16 +1200

you can only highlight a hair-pulling episode as supposedly stark evidence as to his unsuitability to run the country?

No ,wrong ,we here analyse and comment on many of the lies and theft and social inequity that Key and his cronies manage along with Keys immature ,inappropriate all confirming dubious…

fredster jones

Mon, 04 May 2015 11:45:22 +1200

Watched that show Rosemary. Again a reminder of when pinkos feel the need to abuse somebody, they wear that smug disposition of naturally having the truth on their side.
Like the show ended with "well, you could keep Hosking in Auckland." Chortle, chortle, chortle. "Ah, but you presume we would…

Rosemary McDonald

Mon, 04 May 2015 11:06:15 +1200

Back to the show....

I think Ali Mau speaks for many at around about 13.00 mins in this....

https://www.maoritelevision.com/tv/shows/media-take/S01E001/media-take-extended-interview-0

I wonder.....?

fredster jones

Mon, 04 May 2015 10:46:14 +1200

key a victim of his success eh alfie? How pitiful is it that his longstanding detractors like you can only highlight a hair-pulling episode as supposedly stark evidence as to his unsuitability to run the country? Very pitiful.

Alfie

Mon, 04 May 2015 09:17:00 +1200

go see your doctor quick joe

Hmmm. Cutting wedge humour?

fredster jones

Mon, 04 May 2015 09:07:38 +1200

go see your doctor quick joe

Joe Wylie

Mon, 04 May 2015 08:49:43 +1200

Why do regular contributors to this site resort to vile ad hominem stuff like comparing Bob Jones to a turd ?

But those cute brown shar pei puppies in the Roly bum fodder ads were chosen because of the breed’s subliminal resemblance to healthy human excrement, and kiwis took them…

John Farrell

Mon, 04 May 2015 08:41:22 +1200

Bob – fancy seeing you here.

Joe Wylie

Mon, 04 May 2015 08:14:18 +1200

Wow! Send your photographs of our PM pulling waiters’ hair to…

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“Strung out on lasers and slash back blazers
Ate all your razors while pulling the waiters ”

Alfie

Mon, 04 May 2015 08:03:08 +1200

I just listened to Guyen Espinar interviewing the PM on the ponytail affair — talk about dancing on the head of a pin.

Key said that he had taken legal advice on McCready's Male assaults Female case, but "wasn't 100% sure" whether that was in a private or official capacity.…

Alfie

Mon, 04 May 2015 07:46:28 +1200

Hello. Is that you Stamper?

fredster jones

Sun, 03 May 2015 23:01:18 +1200

Why do regular contributors to this site resort to vile ad hominem stuff like comparing Bob Jones to a turd ?........exactly the kind of vitriol they accuse Jones of.

fredster jones

Sun, 03 May 2015 22:55:51 +1200

What a delicious irony. The Bob Jones abusers can only dream of the massive readership the man achieves with his newspaper columns compared to the teeny exposure on this pinko site

Roger Lacey

Sun, 03 May 2015 11:15:27 +1200

The privet prosecution attempt by the pathological guy...
Getting rid of noxious weeds?

Ian Dalziel

Sat, 02 May 2015 15:38:22 +1200

Meanwhile McCready has discovered fresh windmills to tilt at.
He could be called a Public Cervantes...

Sofie Bribiesca

Sat, 02 May 2015 14:38:23 +1200

From back in the day when some actually still believed the promise to re-enter would be honoured.

How many New Zealanders have had the wool removed from their eyes?

And about time. I was always rather upset at how nice the families always appeared when all these promises were pie…

Joe Wylie

Sat, 02 May 2015 14:28:47 +1200

From back in the day when some actually still believed the promise to re-enter would be honoured.

As long as extending a measure of good faith appeared to offer a hope of real justice the Pike River families can hardly be blamed for holding to that course [[http://www.3news.co.nz/nznews/monk-solid-energy-lied-to-pike-river-families-2014082210#axzz3YwXwFIh5|until the duplicity…

Rosemary McDonald

Sat, 02 May 2015 14:06:36 +1200

"....families wanted authorities to press charges once the mine had been re-entered and all evidence obtained rather than taking a private case."

From back in the day when some actually still believed the promise to re-enter would be honoured.

How many New Zealanders have had the wool removed from their…

Joe Wylie

Sat, 02 May 2015 13:24:46 +1200

Although I see that many people find him a pest, I do confess an admiration for someone or anyone like McCready

The Pike River families clearly found McCready's intrusion unwelcome.

Sofie Bribiesca

Sat, 02 May 2015 12:12:40 +1200

Although I see that many people find him a pest, I do confess an admiration for someone or anyone like McCready, who makes a stand against what they perceive as an injustice. McCready is retired ,has the time and believes in trying to make a difference. That Amanda has chosen…

Sofie Bribiesca

Fri, 01 May 2015 18:14:14 +1200

.but it is good to better understand how they (often don't) think.

I just told Chester Burrows to grow up in an article in the Taranaki Times. He left himself wide open. Insights indeed.

nzlemming

Fri, 01 May 2015 15:40:18 +1200

I wonder if, should a future Windsor convert to Catholicism and be denied the throne, the NZ succession could be challenged on human rights grounds?

I imagine they're relaxed about it, just like all the other legislation they've passed that had negative BORA reports.

Steve Withers

Fri, 01 May 2015 15:05:27 +1200

I first ran into Bob Jones back in the NZ Party days. He was often funny, but I rapidly found he tended to be an arrogant, petty, disrespectful misogynist. His columns are worth reading only because they provide insight into the minds and values of people like him. It's not…

Rich of Observationz

Fri, 01 May 2015 13:03:39 +1200

We had a chance to divide the succession a couple of years ago, with the Royal Succession Bill, which, in conflict with the (modern) NZBORA and our traditions of not having an established church, continues to deny Catholics the throne.

I notice that in the midst of the questionably sober…

Rich of Observationz

Fri, 01 May 2015 12:51:06 +1200

what would happen if Tuvalu preferred Wills while the traditionalists in Belize preferred Charles

Same as when William IV (king of the UK and of Hanover (Germany)) was succeeded by Victoria in the UK but by Ernest Augustus I in Hanover, where women could not take the throne.

That sort…

nzlemming

Fri, 01 May 2015 12:40:44 +1200

Plus what would happen if Tuvalu preferred Wills while the traditionalists in Belize preferred Charles, and the non-conformists in PNG opted for Viscount Severn?

Theoretically, we could do this, as the authority of the Crown in NZ derives from the people and Parliament could change the laws of succession as…

nzlemming

Fri, 01 May 2015 12:35:25 +1200

How can you “remove” a prince? They are the elect of god, or so monarchists tell us?

Ask Edward VIII. Or Charles I, if you want to remove all risk of a Pretender...

Alex Coleman

Fri, 01 May 2015 12:14:06 +1200

#NotALLmonarchists.

Johnny Canuck

Fri, 01 May 2015 09:57:45 +1200

It's a bit like public opinion polling around "which Windsor should be next" to inherit the throne(s) of the UK and commonwealth realms. The whole point of a monarchy is that public opinion is irrelevant and the public doesn't get a say.

Plus what would happen if Tuvalu preferred Wills…

Rich of Observationz

Fri, 01 May 2015 09:23:39 +1200

How can you "remove" a prince? They are the elect of god, or so monarchists tell us?

Alfie

Fri, 01 May 2015 08:57:46 +1200

Speaking of children in need parental supervision, is anyone tuned into this Ben Rachinger thing. Seems so very crazy.
It seems quite surreal.

Here's one blogger's summary of the story so far.

The extended version from the man himself.

nzlemming

Thu, 30 Apr 2015 23:42:09 +1200

Speaking of children in need parental supervision, is anyone tuned into this Ben Rachinger thing. Seems so very crazy.

Joe Wylie

Thu, 30 Apr 2015 08:04:00 +1200

Earlier, he woke to the news that Saudi’s Crown Prince Muqrin had been removed overnight, only hours after they met. “It wasn’t obvious when I had dinner if he did know about it. He seemed in a great mood.”

It used to be suggested that, after the latest Argentinian junta…

Ian Dalziel

Thu, 30 Apr 2015 07:35:43 +1200

Clown 'Prince' taints Crown Prince...
The curse of Key is strong – no sooner had he met the Saudi's Crown Prince Muqrin when the prince was 'removed'
Earlier, he woke to the news that Saudi's Crown Prince Muqrin had been removed overnight, only hours after they met. "It wasn't obvious…

nzlemming

Thu, 30 Apr 2015 00:05:02 +1200

How about comparing him to a dose of the clap

Before he arrives is pleasure, but after is a pain in the dong.

Sacha

Wed, 29 Apr 2015 20:07:36 +1200

So what the hell does it take for Currie to be put on permanent gardening leave until his contract runs out?

so wish I knew.
We all deserve real journalism.

Sacha

Wed, 29 Apr 2015 19:52:43 +1200

or a neoliberal neutron bomb
#nothingsolidleftstanding

EE

Wed, 29 Apr 2015 19:22:06 +1200

Can I just say that comparing Bob Jones to a turd is very unkind to the turd. I can fertilise the garden with a turd and grow something lifegiving and useful. How about comparing him to a dose of the clap.

Sacha

Wed, 29 Apr 2015 19:15:00 +1200

5466 is the magic number
(somehow)

nzlemming

Wed, 29 Apr 2015 18:49:22 +1200

Can I just throw an "eewww" into the discourse?

BenWilson

Wed, 29 Apr 2015 17:48:16 +1200

Only if you’re playing poke ’er down.

Ian Dalziel

Wed, 29 Apr 2015 17:43:47 +1200

and he won’t go down.
does a roil flush beat a full louse?

BenWilson

Wed, 29 Apr 2015 17:34:17 +1200

A real floater.

Stained the bowl, and he won't go down.

Ian Dalziel

Wed, 29 Apr 2015 17:26:07 +1200

A real floater
buoys will be buoys...

william blake

Wed, 29 Apr 2015 17:10:56 +1200

Bob, Bob, Bob...

A real floater.

Sofie Bribiesca

Wed, 29 Apr 2015 15:17:48 +1200

heh, still 5466 posts there Ian :)

Sofie Bribiesca

Wed, 29 Apr 2015 15:16:11 +1200

I'm just glad (and sorry it's a link to Harold) that Amanda has Unite advising her of her options and possibility of legal action

Ian Dalziel

Wed, 29 Apr 2015 14:53:56 +1200

Bob, Bob, Bob...
I remember the odd friday night drinks at NBR (early '80s in Wellington) when Bob Jones would show up and hold court, usually turning this into a misogynist master-class...
He seemed to think everyone should respect him and his opinions, I've always found respect is something earned.…

TracyMac

Wed, 29 Apr 2015 14:52:05 +1200

I worked in a Jones- owned building that had a couple of specimens of semi- pornographic, sexist "art" in the foyer. ( Disclaimer: most porn is fine to me outside my working environment, and I do not have a Dworkinesque view of sexism. )

When I got up the gumption…

Roger Lacey

Wed, 29 Apr 2015 13:47:32 +1200

I emailed Shayne Currie with some questions for a piece I was doing on it and got nada. Not even an acknowledgement.

What's his address? The Herald "Letter to the Editor" link is down at the moment.

izogi

Wed, 29 Apr 2015 13:37:46 +1200

Honestly, and I'm not proud to be this cynical, I think the only way an adult is getting into this particular room is when The Herald and the "gossip media" manage to hound someone into a suicide's grave.

I think I'm even more cynical than you on this. To me…

James W

Wed, 29 Apr 2015 13:28:51 +1200

Honestly, and I’m not proud to be this cynical, I think the only way an adult is getting into this particular room is when The Herald and the “gossip media” manage to hound someone into a suicide’s grave.

The Debbie Gerbich case gets very close.

Kumara Republic

Wed, 29 Apr 2015 13:20:07 +1200

This just in from TVNZ:

__Thank you for your email received 28 April, in which you lodged a formal complaint about Seven Sharp shown on 23 April on TV ONE. Your email has been forwarded to the TVNZ Complaints Committee as you have nominated programme standards in your complaint. If…

BenWilson

Wed, 29 Apr 2015 13:14:05 +1200

That column didn’t need to happen, but it happened.

Glad you didn't link to it. Saw the author and title, shuddered, moved on. Someone with Jones' power and privilege having a sensible thought about abusing power over subordinates? Yeah right. I can never get over the fact that we're talking…

Kumara Republic

Wed, 29 Apr 2015 13:01:29 +1200

Or if Graeme McCready had the financial resources of George Soros.

The Ruminator

Wed, 29 Apr 2015 12:38:00 +1200

There are real issues of accountability here too – it's a bit "who watches the watchmen" but who does hold them to task? I know there's the Press Council but that's like complaining to the Ombudsmen...

Because Fairfax haven't really given it much coverage (I assume because there but for…

Rich of Observationz

Wed, 29 Apr 2015 11:53:48 +1200

the Auckland National Party scene that is perhaps the key to all this

Yep, all these people are only in jobs at all because their various parents and so on are plugged into a rich-Auckland back-scratching clique. Employing Pebbles Hooper as a "journalist'?

Also, does Mr Currie realise a fundamental…

Craig Ranapia

Wed, 29 Apr 2015 11:40:11 +1200

Maybe a few phone hackings.

And let's remember that blew up just over a decade after the media solemnly lined up behind Princess Diana's coffin, and promised to clean up their act.

Honestly, and I'm not proud to be this cynical, I think the only way an adult is getting…

Kumara Republic

Wed, 29 Apr 2015 11:27:45 +1200

So what the hell does it take for Currie to be put on permanent gardening leave until his contract runs out?

Maybe a few phone hackings.

Kumara Republic

Wed, 29 Apr 2015 11:27:05 +1200

Which leaves us with another aspirant: Mike Hosking. Again, an adult in the building might have forestalled Hosking’s vile, victim-blaming attack on Bailey on Seven Sharp last week; might have saved him, and his poor colleagues, from himself and his own screaming lack of self-awareness.

But Hosking is a presenter…

Craig Ranapia

Wed, 29 Apr 2015 10:50:27 +1200

So what the hell does it take for Currie to be put on permanent gardening leave until his contract runs out?

Public Address

Wed, 29 Apr 2015 10:50:27 +1200

Discussion from blog post.