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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						Wasn't it Woodhouse who had his own little OIA moment with the Donghau Liu letter Cunliffe signed? Maybe he learnt a lesson.
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				<title>martinb</title>
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						<p>Except</p><p>…Iannucci shows us everything that is going on- all the pants-sh*tting, the swearing, the horrible moments of truth, the contemplating of living with mind-curdlingly daft compromises, the panic, the inspired moments, the haranguing, the small wins, the palaver and also he gets quite a few laughs for it.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2014 21:42:00 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Littlewood</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I wouldn’t act that way, says Bill English. I actually believe him.</p></blockquote><p>Incidentally, Grant McDougall was just at a Dunedin North “meet the candidates” event, and Michael Woodhouse MP  told the audience he “did not condone” civil servants’ information being leaked. </p><p>Also, this morning’s <a href="http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/audio/20146518/key-says-justice-minister-has-been-held-responsible" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> Morning Report</a> item, where gallery…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2014 21:30:14 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						But that's not really relevant to any media in NZ other than Radio NZ or TVNZ, who are owned by the government. If the Herald sells heaps of newspapers from splashing Len Brown's and bad journalism about jobs being given to people at art galleries, that's just going to encourage…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2014 13:40:37 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>If one reporter plays clean, stays out of people’s personal lives etc, what’s their editor going to do when every other media outlet is reporting it with abandon and getting all the sales and page views?</q></p><p>Well, interesting you asked that question.  How’s joining the race to the bottom working…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2014 21:06:38 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<q>Sorry, Russell, but that’s bullshit. They choose to and I thought grown-ups were expected to be honest about, and accountable for, their actions in this sad and sorry world. At least, that sounds an awful lot like what political journalists are happy to demand from everyone else on a daily…</q>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2014 16:58:27 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>FletcherB</title>
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						<p><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=11311761" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=11311761</a></p><p>Judith Collins confirms resignation letter a hoax..</p><p>But of more interest...</p><p><q>"Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security Cheryl Gwyn said she would be instituting an inquiry into allegations the SIS might have released official information to Slater, regarding briefings provided to the then Leader of the Opposition, for political purposes."…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2014 16:21:42 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kracklite</title>
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						Topical Long Now Foundation seminar on <a href="http://longnow.org/seminars/02014/aug/06/inside-nsa" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">intelligence agencies and public trust.</a>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2014 15:11:28 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Dave Waugh</title>
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						I know, but it made me lol.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2014 14:56:02 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						Nice try, no cigar. Funny but.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2014 14:44:39 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Dave Waugh</title>
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						<p>Bye Judith </p><p><a href="http://www.radiolive.co.nz/Judith-Collins-resigns---really/tabid/674/articleID/52713/Default.aspx" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.radiolive.co.nz/Judith-Collins-resigns---really/tabid/674/articleID/52713/Default.aspx</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2014 14:33:25 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kathy Fryer</title>
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						<p><q>Oh God Stephen, warnings please! For everyone else, it links directly to Whaleoil.</p><p>Report </q></p><p>Ha read this too late.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2014 13:52:29 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Dave Waugh</title>
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						<p>So now that Slater's admitted others often write blogs that he post's under his name, will he stand by his Helen Clark Painting tanty?</p><p>And in a total aside I've been quite bemused today due to this blog bunfight that I am no longer able to tweet about media muppetry…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2014 13:49:51 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kathy Fryer</title>
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						Grrr that was a link to Whaleoil, a little warning please...I don't visit Whaleoil out of principle, no Cameron Slater for me.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2014 13:48:22 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q> <em>I play politics like Fijians play rugby.</em></p><p>I think the Fijian rugby players would be thoroughly pissed off to be likened to Slater.</q></p><p>If you're talking about the 15-man game, how the Fijians play rugby could be summed up as "without much success".</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2014 13:32:27 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Update: I emailed the Herald to ask. The response is “Hi Mikey, we don’t allow comments on nzherald.co.nz news articles. That’s a long-standing policy. Our regional websites do allow comments on most stories.”</q></p><p>Yes, that's what I thought</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2014 13:30:44 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>SteveH</title>
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						<p><q>It would kind of take the shine off Bill English’s “Look we’re good economic managers, here’s our surplus and if you’re all good we might give you a tax cut” speeches.</q></p><p>The other thing that takes the shine off that claim is the fact that government debt has skyrocketed during…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2014 13:22:55 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>s/Fijians/Americans<br />s/rugby/war</p><p>There, I fixed it.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2014 11:19:16 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>Another Herald story, this time from Brian Rudman on the Nats’ hacking of Labour’s computers – It’s only dirty politics when someone else does it. Once again the comments are open.</q></p><p>I'd say the disabling of comments was a technical thing rather than a political thing.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2014 11:14:52 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Grant McDougall</title>
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						Considering his overt, long-standing backing of the Nats, Mike Hosking's e-mails in recent years' would make interesting reading too, given recent revelations.
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				<title>Roger Lacey</title>
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						<a href="http://www.3news.co.nz/More-to-Govt-accounts-than-meets-the-eye/tabid/817/articleID/357540/Default.aspx " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> Campbell Live</a> picked this up last night showing a huge hole in the treasury forecast because the EQC has not reported its financial position. If the EQC shortfall is taken into account it seems to leave an enormous budget defect that the next government will have to deal…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2014 11:06:19 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>I play politics like Fijians play rugby.</q></p><p>I think the Fijian rugby players would be thoroughly pissed off to be likened to Slater.</p>
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				<title>Michael Meyers</title>
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						<p><q>Once again the comments are open.</q></p><p>I sense a bit of a conspiracy theory building about the Herald comments. As far as I can tell after a scout around their site, comments only seem to be open on “opinion” pieces rather than “news” pieces. </p><p>I’m not sure if this is…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>In all the interviews over the last few days, has anyone asked John Key if he was aware Slater and Lusk successfully manipulated candidate selections in his party, and what he plans to do to prevent that happening again in the future?</q></p><p>I've been surprised no one has mentioned it,…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>/delurking, hi!</q></p><p>Hello!</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2014 10:21:41 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						<p><q>Another Herald story, this time from Brian Rudman on the Nats’ hacking of Labour’s computers – It’s only dirty politics when someone else does it. Once again the comments are open.</q></p><p>And he points out that Slater took credit card numbers too .... that's got to resonate with the Nat's…</p>
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				<title>chinashop</title>
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						<p><q>If, as has been suggested, Judith Collins does have dirt on John Key, I don't think that would stop him sacking her now.</q></p><p>Unless she's threatened him with mutually assured destruction.</p>
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				<title>chinashop</title>
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						<q>The 'Simon Lusk's Plan' chapter in the book &mdash; which has barely been reported &mdash; states that there are MPs who are in Parliament principally because they were clients of Lusk, who worked with Slater to deter and even destroy their opponents in electorate selection races. Good people were really…</q>
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				<title>Alfie</title>
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						Another Herald story, this time from Brian Rudman on the Nats' hacking of Labour's computers &ndash; <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&amp;objectid=11311371" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">It's only dirty politics when someone else does it</a>. Once again the comments are open.
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						There are such things as RSS feeds and crawlers.
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				<title>stephen clover</title>
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						<p><q>Interesting that the Herald have stopped all reader comments on any political stories the past couple of days….</q></p><p>Interesting that WhaleOil has stopped casual readers from being able to browse members comment history...</p>
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				<title>Alfie</title>
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						<p><q>Not content with getting her own way against all odds in Parliament, Judith Collins has named a new lane in the Chchch Justice &amp; Emergency Precinct after a friend from Auckland...</q><br />It might have been worse. She could have called it <strong>Oravida Lane</strong>.</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>Grease is the word...</strong><br /><q>A smear is... </q><br />...reliant on there being 'grease' to push around in the first place!<br />The 'oleaginous one' has proved a gusher &ndash; and he fits right in with 'Team K-Y'...</p>
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				<title>Luke Williamson</title>
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						And a cartoon fresh from my brother who is in Spain and digesting this debacle long distance.
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						Herald website this morning has nothing for the first 7-8 stories and then recycled Judith Collins story after that. Of more importance are; Lorde takes up yoga, couple propose on springy ride thing, crocodile eats man in Oz, meat hook in the head and a few other newsy bits. Nothing…
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						<p>John Armstrong refers to the <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&amp;objectid=11311365" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">"huge cracks"</a> starting to appear in the National Party's "it's all lies" defence to Hager's book. <br /><q>In resolutely defending the indefensible &ndash; especially when the indefensible is as well-documented as it is in Hager's book &ndash; John Key was not only starting to sound and look…</q></p>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						<p>Waiting for someone in the media scrum to challenge Key on his ‘left-wing smear campaign to avoid talking about policy’ line.<br />A smear is when you spread stories and rumours that you can’t back up. Allegations backed up by evidence are not smears.<br />A campaign is orchestrated; the ‘left-wing’ is…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2014 08:30:19 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2014 08:20:23 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>The buck stops here...</strong><br /><em>The Herald</em> captures the zeitgeist, and labels <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/election-2014/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503581&amp;objectid=11311347" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">a picture of Key and Brownlee as "Nats' spending creeps"</a> &ndash; how apt!<br />;- )</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2014 06:49:19 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>Name calling...</strong><br />Not content with getting her own way against all odds in Parliament, Judith Collins has named a new lane in the Chchch Justice &amp; Emergency Precinct after a friend from Auckland... <br /><q>A feature of the precinct will be a lane formally named the <br />Justice Sir Robert Chambers Lane, in…</q></p>
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				<title>A S</title>
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						<p>That is pretty damning in light of her role in this whole thing.  </p><p>Wonder if you've just found the media their line of questioning for the day?  Lots of potential questions there about integrity,  judgement,  and suitability for office.</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>Looking lovely in a Charnel outfit...</strong><br /><q>the Right Honourable (Tui ad tagline) Judith Collins</q><br />will the Honourable (yeah Right) Jusdith Minister Judas Collins...<br />...lead those other National sheep up the ramp to the abattoir</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2014 05:23:54 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Parks</title>
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						<p><em> If she doesn’t go now, the National government crashes and burns along with her.</em></p><p>I'd like to think so. But Key and National have a problem here: they went so hard with the "nothing to see here" and "dissolving before his eyes" response to Hager's book, that Key is…</p>
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				<title>Steve Parks</title>
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						<p>From the w.oil link:</p><p><em>There is something vulnerable and helpless about her, and I have this soft spot for women like her in a kitten or puppy rescue kind of way. </em></p><p>Wow. All class. By "class" I mean pathetic misogynist.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2014 01:43:52 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>Self-awareness, clearly not a requirement for office.</q></p><p>Or as Tricky Dick Nixon once put it, "it's not illegal when the President's doing it."</p>
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				<title>Lilith __</title>
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						<p><q>If she were to leak damaging information about John Key a month before an election and were responsible for destroying National’s election chances, she’d be destroying her own reputation as well as her party’s. Career suicide.</q></p><p>Judith Collins does not have a political future on planet earth. Her reputation is…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2014 01:11:47 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>Michelle Boag was on The Panel</q></p><p>far too often</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2014 23:00:29 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>She was probably interviewed by Hager about the ACC/Pullar thing so knew something was coming.</q></p><p>Good point. You're very probably right.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2014 22:55:03 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Stewart</title>
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						<p>I am finding this quote:<br /><em> Time’s up. Your behaviour is not acceptable </em><br />from the Right Honourable (Tui ad tagline) Judith Collins especially piquant.</p><p>Would that she see the connection and offer herself up as the first proof that the policy might actually work?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2014 22:37:35 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ross Mason</title>
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						<p><q>Today he started to ask Farrar to, I think, to name these nasty Left bloggers but Farrar just plowed over with his spin of justification – for a long long time.</q></p><p>At the end where there was about 15 minutes left, Jim asked what they were thinking about recently.  Chris…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2014 22:20:06 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p><q>the ACC/Pullar thing</q></p><p>about that....now there was a 'leak' of somewhat mythical proportions....</p><p>The whole thing had a stench about it....IMHO, FWIW,</p>
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				<title>Greg Dawson</title>
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						<p><q>How can the satirists compete any more? Check out this press release from Judith Collins:</p><p><a href="http://www.national.org.nz/news/news/media-releases/detail/2013/04/03/time" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.national.org.nz/news/news/media-releases/detail/2013/04/03/time</a>’s-up-for-cyber-bullies</q></p><p>Just....wow.</p><p>__Making it an offence to send messages and post material online that is grossly offensive, indecent, obscene, menacing or knowingly false, punishable by up to 3 months imprisonment or a $2,000 fine.</p><p>Creating…</p>
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				<title>Myles Thomas</title>
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						Yes and Joyce is probably working out how they can sneak the Conservatives an electorate seat after all.
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				<title>mpledger</title>
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						She was probably interviewed by Hager about the ACC/Pullar thing so knew something was coming.
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p><q> Farrar on The Panel this afternoon.</q></p><p>Casting my mind back a few weeks,  Michelle Boag was on The Panel.</p><p>When asked "" what was on her mind"....answered,  along the lines of...</p><p>I wonder what Nicky Hager is going to release before the election....?</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q>Sorry, but it is a direct quote.  :-(</q></p><p>Bucket! I knew I'd need it....</p>
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				<title>Ianmac</title>
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						So what would happen if some brave person quoted all those great words back to ole Jude? Wow!
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				<title>Malcolm</title>
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						Sorry, but it is a direct quote.  :-(
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				<title>Ianmac</title>
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						That was some sort of satire &ndash; wasn't it Malolm? Imperator Fish wrote it didn't he? I cannot imagine Judith having the cheek to put her tongue in it.
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				<title>Malcolm</title>
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						<p>And the money quote:</p><p>"“Our new anti-cyber bullying proposals protect victims and hold perpetrators to account. No one should ever be subject to this kind of cowardly attack &ndash; now with the right support and modern laws in place, victims will no longer have to suffer,” Ms Collins says."</p>
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				<title>Malcolm</title>
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						<p>How can the satirists compete any more?  Check out this press release from Judith Collins:</p><p><a href="https://www.national.org.nz/news/news/media-releases/detail/2013/04/03/time&#039;s-up-for-cyber-bullies" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.national.org.nz/news/news/media-releases/detail/2013/04/03/time&#039;s-up-for-cyber-bullies</a></p>
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				<title>andin</title>
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						<p><q> But it’s such a small life, isn’t it?</q><br /> Short is a better adjective I think. Those who are indulging in this fuckery, that the Slater fiasco has revealed have small and evil lives. And that is the problem. They seem unable or unwilling to look past/outside of themselves.</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q>Sofie Bribiesca:Yep, I hit it for 5 secs thenYou hit.. your desk with your head? :)</q></p><p>No because it was my laptop in front of the fire an' then I had to mop up some sick...<br />Ne'er mind I have a bucket now for such faux pas in the future,…</p>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p><q>127.0.0.1       www.kiwiblog.co.nz<br />127.0.0.1  www.whaleoil.co.nz</q></p><p>Put these lines in your /etc/hosts file and you'll never look back.</p>
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				<title>stephen clover</title>
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						<p><q>warnings please!</q></p><p>Yeah look sorry about that. I had intended to leave a warning, but kinda forgot when I ran out of time and had to run for the bus.</p><p>Sofie Bribiesca: <q>Yep, I hit it for 5 secs then</q></p><p>You hit.. your desk with your head? :)</p>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p><q>cynicism is a much less painful and prolonged default than expecting better, holding people to account, and even dealing with the inevitable disappointments, failures and a full measure of straight out fuckery. </q></p><p>Sometimes,  though,  enough fuckery is more than enough.</p><p>Had my fill many years ago.</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>No its not. But is this all we (I mean us with no influence, outside of casting a vote) can expect?</q></p><p>No &mdash; but it actually requires work because cynicism is a much less painful and prolonged default than expecting better, holding people to account, and even dealing with the…</p>
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				<title>andin</title>
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						<p><q>the cynical side of politics is not new,</q></p><p>No its not. But is this all we (I mean us with no influence, outside of casting a vote)  can expect? Global warning is a fact. Yet we are lumbered with short-sighted self-serving people who just like being in charge and, it…</p>
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				<title>Andre Alessi</title>
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						<p><q>the only PR offer I’ve had was to write about a well known brand of baked beans in exchange for one (1) can of the baked beans.</q></p><p>I've always suspected you were in the pocket of Big Bean, Robyn.</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>I guess awards might have their uses, but I don’t think they’re a great loss if they don’t happen. In general, great work speaks for itself and doesn’t need approbation to back it up.</q></p><p>You're quite right &mdash; good work is good work.  But while The Booker Effect is one…</p>
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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						<p><q>Oh God Stephen, warnings please! For everyone else, it links directly to Whaleoil.</q></p><p>+1</p>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<q>The way the situation is evolving though puts them in a more difficult situation. Ahead of any possible criminal charges or proven misrepresentation of an award entry (which must surely be very close to being the case), do they form a view that sponsors should take a moral position on…</q>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q>Oh God Stephen, warnings please!  For everyone else, it links directly to Whaleoil.</q></p><p>Yep, I hit it for 5 secs then ran as fast as I could. I have never been there before and now I feel unwashed .</p>
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				<title>Tom Barker</title>
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						In the Herald today, the charming and gracious Mr Slater talks of all the nice things he does for his friends. I wonder whether his particularly close friend Ms Collins is feeling grateful for the effect he's had on her political fortunes.
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						I'd look for expertise if someone judges though. Awards carry kudos for many reasons. I would think  some sort of authority in the field would be a pre requisite. I mean let's say I can tell anyone I like Oyster Bay Merlot with its rich but low tannins but I'd…
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				<title>llew40</title>
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						Fair comment &ndash; please allow me to downgrade my 'terrible' to 'unfortunate'.
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				<title>Kracklite</title>
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						<p>"Geeky and awkwardly beautiful, girls with brains always spin my fan.  There is something vulnerable and helpless about her,"  </p><p>Oh God Stephen, warnings please!  For everyone else, it links directly to Whaleoil.</p>
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				<title>stephen clover</title>
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						<p><q>What is the expertise of the Canon Awards Judge? Is there more than one?</q></p><p>There was one judge in the blog category, Deborah Hill Cone. Unsure as to expertise. She apparently wrote that <a href="http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2014/06/on-deborah-hill-cone-being-trained-and-skilled-and-awards/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">she had to hold her nose in order to give it to him.</a></p>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>I guess awards might have their uses, but I don't think they're a great loss if they don't happen. In general, great work speaks for itself and doesn't need approbation to back it up.</p><p>(I may be a bit jaundiced, because in my profession the award generally gets collected by…</p>
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						<p><q>In that time the only PR offer I've had was to write about a well known brand of baked beans in exchange for one (1) can of the baked beans.</q></p><p>There's ligging out there if you're prepared to hassle for it though, and kudos for not doing so. SWIM who…</p>
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						<p><q>Why? Because people miss out on some free booze and a backslapping opportunity?</q></p><p>Assume you just mean this set of awards, or do you mean the concept of awards in general?</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						What is the expertise of the Canon Awards Judge? Is there more than one?
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						<p><q>whether or not next years sponsorship is worth it &ndash; which would be a terrible industry outcome</q></p><p>Why? Because people miss out on some free booze and a backslapping opportunity?</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<q>Well, putting myself into the shoes of Canon, as a corporate sponsor I think they were quite right in their initial insistence on sticking to the separation of sponsor from judge – after all, who would want to be a part of an awards process where sponsors had an influence…</q>
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				<title>Morgan Nichol</title>
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						<p><q>Meanwhile, W. Oil gets $6500 a month for writing about how smoking is cool.</q></p><p>Worse than that, he gets the money but someone else ghostwrites for him.</p>
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				<title>Kracklite</title>
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						Hmmm, I can see why John le Carre refuses all awards and honours.
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<p><q>In one of the early reports that annoyed me, Radio New Zealand’s political editor Brent Edwards, talked about smears being unleashed to “blogs” and “the blogosphere”. Actually, we’re not all like that. The multitude of bloggers, political bloggers included, have no part in this.</q></p><p>I've been blogging for over 18…</p>
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				<title>Ianmac</title>
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						<p>I wrote to Jim at the Panel yesterday pointing out that he let claims of "the Left do it too," pass un-challenged.<br />Today he started to ask Farrar to, I think, to name these nasty Left bloggers but Farrar just plowed over with his spin of justification &ndash; for a…</p>
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				<title>llew40</title>
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						Well, putting myself into the shoes of Canon, as a corporate sponsor I think they were quite right in their initial insistence on sticking to the separation of sponsor from judge &ndash; after all, who would want to be a part of an awards process where sponsors had an influence…
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				<title>Johnny Canuck</title>
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						Stephen Joyce is busy running the National Party polling, to see what impact if any this is having on public opinion.
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				<title>Myles Thomas</title>
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						The whole thing calls for an independant inquiry, not denials.
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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						<q>The book gives no indication that Farrar was part of the disgusting rape conversation in the book, even if he ran the parties. And I really don’t think he would have been. He can be faulted for being matey with these guys, but I do not think he would be…</q>
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				<title>Kracklite</title>
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						Whatever denial Farrar now finds it expedient to issue (and he doesn't have a good record for honesty), my point remains is that these parties are explicitly seen as hunting grounds by Roast Busters style sexual predators and a certain correspondent is so morally myopic that he honestly thinks that…
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				<title>stephen clover</title>
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						<p><q>She swatted away allegations of partisan bias with “I’m just a gossip columnist.”</q></p><p>Content to remain part of the problem, I guess.</p><p>Meanwhile, Farrar on The Panel this afternoon. I don't even.</p>
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						<p>Do you know the timing on that case? The article was on the 23rd of June, and I can't find anything post that on the Courts' website.</p><p>You'd have thought we'd be due a decision by now?</p><p>I'm wondering if Slater gave evidence that he didn't take payment for stories.…</p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						I know I keep banging on about the Canons. Like Russell, I don't have a stake in them taking the award away from Slater (and I certainly wouldn't want it thrust upon me), but then I also think that the industry body is duty-bound to finally distance itself form Slater.…
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				<title>Euan Mason</title>
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						<p><q>It would also put Slater’s nose out. And it’s possible ‘pissing off the whale’ is something those close to him are reluctant to do.</q></p><p>Maybe.  I think Slater's days of influence are numbered.</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<q>[Update: For the record, I note that Farrar now denies the allegation in Dirty Politics that he organised the “Princess Party”, though he did attend. As to why writers sometimes choose to remain anonymous, such as me on this occasion, look no further than the climate of intimidation created by…</q>
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				<title>Myles Thomas</title>
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						Craig, at times your tone and level of bile is reminiscent of the gutter trolls you deride.
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>I ran out of time to put this in the post, but the past week's news seems likely to have a very significant bearing on <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=11280154" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Slater's defence in a defamation case</a>:</p><p><q>Blogger Cameron Slater should be able to claim the mantle "journalist" to protect his sources in a defamation case, the…</q></p>
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				<title>Keir Leslie</title>
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						More in "let's not go to the pub after" kind of a way.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2014 16:40:52 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Luke Williamson</title>
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						JK seems to believe that they can ride out the storm through to the election and still be popular enough to win. If fresh polling next week shows them taking a big hit, maybe then there will be some sacrificial lambs.
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				<title>Luke Williamson</title>
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						<p>Where has Stephen Joyce gone? I'm scared.<br />Nats had to roll out Bill English today, as about the only 'clean' senior party member left, to do some policy presentation and distraction.</p>
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						<p><q>It’s not everyone, and hard to pick any single individual or instance. But any pleasure in seeing it now directed at Key has to be tempered. It’s kind’ve ugly.</q></p><p>It seems the fuse that Hager lit has elevated into a political bushfire, with or without the Left egging it on.…</p>
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				<title>Trevor Nicholls</title>
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						Nicky "noted gossip" Hager. Not particularly apposite.
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				<title>Idiot Savant</title>
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						<p><q>Slater often seems to be playing a politics-themed LARP (sorry to any Larpers reading) where the win-condition is to be as awful as possible.</q></p><p>And not in an amusing way where you laugh at how horrible it all was post-game.</p>
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						<p>And Rachel Glucina, who gets name-checked in <em>Dirty Politics</em>, was vapidly evasive about it at the <a href="http://quoteunquotenz.blogspot.co.nz/2014/08/wintec-press-club-rachel-glucina-edition.html?spref=tw" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">latest Wintec Press Club</a>:</p><p>__Braunias did ask whether she’d paid much attention to her minor role in noted gossip Nicky Hager’s new book, Dirty Politics. No, she hadn’t read it, and she’d never met…</p>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						<p><q>the Gallery in particular tends not to move unless it smells blood. </q><br />This. It's been evident in much of the reporting on Labour under Goff, then Shearer, and now Cunliffe. Bully-boy stuff, the flip-side of sycophancy. <br />It's not everyone, and hard to pick any single individual or instance. But any…</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q>This may not be helping.</q></p><p>No shit Sherlock! ;)</p>
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				<title>Joanna</title>
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						Except for you know, that whole <em>hilarious</em> dressing up as Jimmy Saville thing...
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				<title>A C Young</title>
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						<p><q>This may not be helping.</q></p><p>Oh I don't know....I found it wonderfully helpful in clarifying exactly the kind of mindset at work here.</p><p>One of the things that comes up often in talking about horrendous acts of misogyny  is that the perpetrators assume that everyone believes and behaves they way…</p>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						<p><q>while sacking Collins would get the Nats back on track prior to the election, it would help destabilise his within-party support.</q><br />It would also put Slater's nose out. And it's possible 'pissing off the whale' is something those close to him are reluctant to do.</p>
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						Thing is, in my experience, politics is pretty boring. It's making phone calls, knocking doors, and delivering pamphlets. Or, at higher levels,  it's organising other people to do those things. Sometimes you do slightly interesting things, like put out a statement saying that you're in favour of puppies and kittens,…
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				<title>Pete George</title>
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						<q>The book gives no indication that Farrar was part of the disgusting rape conversation in the book, even if he ran the parties. And I really don’t think he would have been. He can be faulted for being matey with these guys, but I do not think he would be…</q>
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						Wonder if there are any Fijian rugby fans in the wilds of south-east Auckland.. ?
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Fisher has <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=11311070" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">an interview with Slater</a>:</p><p><q>Whaleoil blogger Cameron Slater has described his man in the Beehive as "squeamish" and "gutless" for not fronting up to the media and talking about their relationship.</q></p><p>And:</p><p><q>Slater said his style of politics differed from many others. "I play politics like Fijians play rugby.…</q></p>
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				<title>Kracklite</title>
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						<p><q>"We can do better than this". Can you try?</q></p><p>Actually, no, I can't in this case.  Certainly according to the statistics, I can't claim any special knowledge, but I can say that at least I've been informed by the effect of rape that I have seen on close friends that…</p>
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				<title>Lindsay Vette</title>
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						<p><q>John Key looked a lot more composed this morning on Firstline with a much more coherent sounding story (although still the same flimsy talking points as ever).</q></p><p>I thought his performance was laughable and typical of his brush it off as if nothing untoward was going on approach, particularly his…</p>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p>That,  ChrisW,  is nothing.</p><p>I cleaned out my chookhouse yesterday. </p><p>Evidence of rats everywhere,  chooks scared to go into the nesting boxes and do their thing.</p><p>So....pulled out the nesting boxes,  the space behind was literally packed solid with ratshit,   a few eggshells,  and a mumified rat.</p><p>Didn't see any…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Because if some women could be raped and sexual predators are actively on the prowl at these “Princess Parties” with Farrar’s knowledge or even facilitation, the tasteful, gentlemanly thing to do is to keep quiet to maintain calm at the bowling club. Charming, Pete.</q></p><p>The book gives no indication that…</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p>Dunno how Duncan Garner reckons its a dirty campaign<br />we haven't seen any campaign yet</p><p>This is all damage control  after the Hager torpedo took out the front of Key's Ship of Fools....</p><p>We may have to leave the wreck of the National Party's Golden Barge on the reef it…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Jared Savage wrote the post about Mr Liu and the $100,000 bottle of wine paid as a donation to the Labour Party. Even though it was wrong he never withdrew and apologised.</q></p><p>As a reporter, it's not his role to apologise, even for a total screaming fuckup like that. It's…</p>
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				<title>Euan Mason</title>
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						<p><q>t’s admitting that there is truth to the “made-up stuff” in this “smear campaign” from a known “left-wing conspiracy theorist”.</q></p><p>Key could be very specific and confine it to what JC has admitted doing, and that would be perfectly feasible to run in parallel with his fanciful planet Key denunciations…</p>
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				<title>ChrisW</title>
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						<p><q>Or is the golden rule here that nobody shits where they eat, because a media culture that ...</q><br />Funny that, I had related but contrary thoughts of the media-political scene centred on WhaleOil when I pulled this top-stow piece of firewood out from the back of my woodshed just two…</p>
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				<title>Pete George</title>
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						<p>Very funny Scotty and Kracklite. The law is actually like this:</p><p>The longer an online discussion goes on with me involved, the greater the probability that numpties will try to divert it and make it about me rather than the topic &ndash; and blame that diversion on me.</p><p>Have either…</p>
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						<p><q>[REDACTED. That’s just nasty speculation about someone who’s not in a good state to be dealing with it right now. People, I’m going out to the supermarket and I’d be grateful if you could not post or link to stupid shit while I’m out. RB]</q></p><p>Fair point Russell, I shouldn’t…</p>
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						<p>Jared Savage wrote the post about Mr Liu and the $100,000 bottle of wine paid as a donation to the Labour Party. Even though it was wrong he never withdrew and apologised.<br />I wonder if Cameron Slater was his source?</p>
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				<title>Michael Meyers</title>
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						<p><q>You are right of course, but it will be difficult for Key to take this path. He apparently has a delicate within-party struggle on his hands, and he favours the more extreme right, where Collins is Queen diva.</q></p><p>There are at least two problems for the National Party with sacking…</p>
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						<p><q>At least David Farrar has, to his credit, finally got out of utter denial mode but I'll believe it when I see it.</q></p><p>Likewise, I'll believe it when I see it and in the meantime take this 'moral awakening' with a pinch of salt, the Red Sea and a large…</p>
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				<title>Alan Perrott</title>
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						OK, I’ll put my hand up and say the story about Slater’s potential hit on Paddy came from me. It was during a break in the awards and I was outside chatting with Deborah Hill Cohne when I noticed this guy standing nearby on his lonesome. I asked where he…
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						<p>_Funny, isn't it, how some of us Pakeha look to Maori telly for 'decent' investigative journalism..._<br />The program over the last two Mondays at 8pm called Re-think is so well formatted, so well compered and very very interesting. The one last week was a look at the effect of polling…</p>
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				<title>Keir Leslie</title>
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						Thanks Craig. Yes it was poorly thought out wording there. Main point is that I think all those activities are wrong and need to be dealt with by whoever's responsible --- and trust me, I'm more than happy to say that means the Standard needs to do more.
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						There's a rule that I formulated a while ago that is a variant on Godwin's rule: The longer an online discussion goes on, the greater the probability that Pete Gorge will decide that it's all about him.
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p>Thanks Russell, and I’ll happily grant that I don’t think Keir was being malignant either.  Just somewhat careless, and it would sheer hypocrisy not to note I’ve been there myself.  With bells and noddy hat on. </p><p><q>Which is really just a morally elevated way of saying “everyone does it”. </q>  </p><p>Oh,…</p>
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						Pete George seems to spend a goodly portion of every working day commenting on various sites about how terrible/evil/awful/unfair The Standard is. I fear he may have found a new venue for his obsession.
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				<title>Euan Mason</title>
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						<p><q>Yes, well the smart move for Key now would be to sack Collins as a minister, deselect her as a candidate and declare a fatwa on party engagement with fringe wingnuts such as Slater.</p><p>I suspect she's already been asked to resign though, and has refused.</q></p><p>You are right of…</p>
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						<p>Because if some women could be raped and sexual predators are actively on the prowl at these "Princess Parties" with Farrar's knowledge or even facilitation, the tasteful, gentlemanly thing to do is to keep quiet to maintain calm at the bowling club.  Charming, Pete.</p><p>There's a risk of further criminal…</p>
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						<p>Wow. How can anyone take this seriously?  </p><p><q>John Key says no disciplinary action will be taken against the Justice Minister because the action pre-dated the final warning he gave Ms Collins over the Oravida scandal.</p><p>Read more: <a href="http://www.3news.co.nz/Collins-unwise-to-pass-information-to-Slater/tabid/1607/articleID/357494/Default.aspx#ixzz3AntvYGuy" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.3news.co.nz/Collins-unwise-to-pass-information-to-Slater/tabid/1607/articleID/357494/Default.aspx#ixzz3AntvYGuy</a> </q></p><p>How did that discussion go? </p><p>"Judith, consider yourself lucky that your lies…</p>
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						No, he's into the more genteel, old-fashioned corruption such as double-dipping.
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						<p><q>No there’s not an equivalent, but there’s plenty of try hards. For instance:<br /><a href="http://thestandard.org.nz/no-changes-for-kiwiblog/#comment-869553" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://thestandard.org.nz/no-changes-for-kiwiblog/#comment-869553</a> </q></p><p>No matter how hard they try, Te Standard and Te Daily Blog seem to be confined to the <cough> ‘beltway’. So what does WhaleOil have that TS &amp; TDB don’t? If it’s not about money, then it’s probably…</p>
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						<p><q>What are you saying? That journalists should never accept leaks and tips from politicians?</q></p><p>That's wishful thinking on my part, but a good start would be for the Press Gallery to make it SOP to open visits from politicians with "This is all on the record and attributable."  I expect…</p>
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						<p>Looks like a bit of change in approach by National today. </p><p>John Key looked a lot more composed this morning on Firstline with a much more coherent sounding story (although still the same flimsy talking points as ever). Bill English is distancing himself (although I'm not sure he can really…</p>
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						<p><q>It doesn't have to be this way. We can, all of us, do better than this.</q></p><p>Not sure if Chris Trotter would agree that this is necessary &ndash; apparently it's to be expected and accepted, going by <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/10397066/Dirty-politics-is-there-any-other-kind" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">his column today</a>:</p><p>__But the choice is not &ndash; with all due respect…</p>
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						<p><q> <em>It’s over to you, Pete, to identify a left-leaning blogger with even a tenth of the venality and vindictiveness of WhaleOil.</em></p><p>I feel kind of icky agreeing with Pete (sorry, Mr. George) but if our baseline is “not as bad as Whaleoil” that’s a depressingly low bar you can clear…</q></p>
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				<title>Pete George</title>
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						<p>At what point does the liability Collins poses to National staying in power exceed her value (if any)?  </p><p>How many senior Nat party people are currently doing those sums, do you think?</p>
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						<p>Sooo, Collins isn't on her "last last" chance, she's "on her last chance after what happened last time."<br />Not really seeing a whole lot of difference there.<br />I really, really can't see how Key's continual defence of Collins can't be anything other than code for "I can't dump her because…</p>
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				<title>Carol Stewart</title>
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						<p><q>Why shouldn’t I confront any level of venality and vindictiveness? </q><br />Yup, fair point Pete.</p>
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						<p><q> The Collins stuff is pretty weak and she has done the hard yards in the party and caucus so that Collins is pretty safe. The only time he would sack her would be if she moved against him</q></p><p>If Collins doesn’t have a secret dirt file on her own leader,…</p>
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						<p>not washing your hands before dinner is exactly the same as deploying a dirty nuclear bomb in a civilian area.</p><p>see the flaw in that piece of moral 'reasoning'?</p>
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				<title>Keir Leslie</title>
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						<p><q>Oh, Jesus… Could you take a moment and really think about what you just did there?</q></p><p>I think Keir may have been trying to make an artful point, but I deleted the comment. It was unnecessary and inappropriate.</p>
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						<p><q>It’s over to you, Pete, to identify a left-leaning blogger with even a tenth of the venality and vindictiveness of WhaleOil.</q></p><p>I feel kind of icky agreeing with Pete (sorry, Mr. George) but if our baseline is "not as bad as Whaleoil" that's a depressingly low bar you can clear…</p>
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						Collins is on <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=11311222" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">her last last chance again.</a> That jk is sooo assertive. Aint no bus, but hopefully she gets a rubbish truck to the Dump by tomorrow.
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						<q>Sorry, Russell, but that’s bullshit. They choose to and I thought grown-ups were expected to be honest about, and accountable for, their actions in this sad and sorry world. At least, that sounds an awful lot like what political journalists are happy to demand from everyone else on a daily…</q>
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				<title>Pete George</title>
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						<p><q>It’s over to you, Pete, to identify a left-leaning blogger with even a tenth of the venality and vindictiveness of WhaleOil.</q><br />Why?</p><p>Why shouldn't I confront any level of venality and vindictiveness? We should be prepared to confront dirt at any level, surely? </p><p>Russell's post is titled "We can do…</p>
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						<p>BTW, I gather David Fisher is working on a personal peace about dealing with Slater.</p><p>Endnote 40 (p 146) for Chapter 4 says: "Slater gave various stories to the journalist David Fisher in that period [early 2012] including the Labour Party data story. They later fell out when Fisher wrote…</p>
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						<p><q>Which, well, highly tasteless and offensive if it’s true, and therefore a bit off to be retailing without evidence, but I leave to the reader to judge how it compares to smearing victims of sexual assault etc.</q></p><p>Oh, Jesus...  Could you take a moment and <em>really</em> think about what you…</p>
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						<q>Before we pat The Herald too hard on the back, this is the same Jared Savage who (as far as I’m aware) never retracted or apologized to anyone involved for implying Brown exerted “influence” to get Chuang employed by the Auckland City Art Gallery. Yes? So excuse me if I…</q>
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				<title>Carol Stewart</title>
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						<p><q>No there’s not an equivalent, but there’s plenty of try hards. For instance:</q><br />It's over to you, Pete, to identify a left-leaning blogger with even a tenth of the venality and vindictiveness of WhaleOil.</p>
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						<p>Keir &ndash; have you read that thread? Two comments allege much more than what you're claiming.</p><p>Dismissing dirt  as 'not as dirty as Slater' sets an awfully poor standard &ndash; especially alongside another post there today titled <em>Left wing blogs aren’t “the same”</em> &ndash; if they want to criticise some…</p>
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						Also it would seem that some in the Nats would quite like Collins to Go Away, but others are going to the mat for her. This must be playing havoc with the election campaign organisation.
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						<p><q>But there is an extent to which political journalists especially are required to play the game.</q> </p><p>Sorry, Russell, but that’s <em>bullshit</em>.  They  <em>choose</em> to and I thought grown-ups were expected to be honest about, and accountable for, their actions in this sad and sorry world.  At least, that sounds an…</p>
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				<title>Gavin White</title>
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						Oh I agree &ndash; that's disgusting.  The saving grace, as others have pointed out, is that it's just an anonymous commenter, but I'd like to see the moderators deal with that sort of crap.  The biblical quote about removing the plank from your own eye comes to mind.
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						You know, let's be totally upfront here. I have real problems with the way the Standard is run, particularly the moderation. But some no-name commenter making offensive implications is both wrong, and something that should be dealt with, and __absolutely nothing fucking like what Cam Slater has been doing for…
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				<title>Brent Jackson</title>
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						<p><q>If we were better than that, surely the MSM would stop interviewing the PM until he actually bothered to <em>acknowledge that he has</em> read...</q></p><p>Fixed it for you.</p><p>I too would love to hear John Key asked "Why haven't you read the book ?", and when he trots out the…</p>
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				<title>Pete George</title>
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						<p>Because blog comments like that are an insidious part of dirty politics. No one so far has challenged it. And the blog lets them go while being draconian on other far less serious things &ndash; that makes the blog as dirty as any.</p><p>Maybe the moderators are busy but I've…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>No. The majority of journalists never get near sensational stories. </q></p><p>And that’s true as far as it goes, but these damn things don’t just magically appear Harry Potter-style.  Not for the first time, I have to wonder if the media in this country is magically assembled by elves when everyone…</p>
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				<title>Pete George</title>
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						<p><q> I think Collins is heading for the exits, but I don’t know if that’s enough now.</q></p><p>Better late than never but there's significant damage been done in the meantime. As far as enough goes, Ede should have already been dealt to publicly as well.</p>
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						And apart from anything else, that's a nobody in the comments! For heaven's sake why does he even <em>try</em>?
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						how is that comment remotely equivalent in terms of intent?
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						<p>Pete, really? I think that’s a bit of a reach.</p><p>Anyway, yeah, I think Collins is heading for the exits, but I don’t know if that’s enough now.</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Brook Sabin has just tweeted that Key now says Collins' actions were "unwise".</p><p>Is that a bus I see coming?</p>
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				<title>Pete George</title>
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						<p><q>This ‘they all do it’ cop out is getting beyond a joke – there just isn’t an equivalent to Slater on the left.</q><br />No there's not an equivalent, but there's plenty of try hards. For instance:<br /><a href="http://thestandard.org.nz/no-changes-for-kiwiblog/#comment-869553" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://thestandard.org.nz/no-changes-for-kiwiblog/#comment-869553</a></p>
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						<p><q> a quote that would run prominently as an expression of disapproval</q></p><p>I guess they were running out of colleagues who could pull that off. :)</p>
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						<p>in context he’s also putting it on her rather than himself:</p><p><q> Asked if it was OK for Collins to seek revenge <strong>on his behalf</strong>, he said he had not sought revenge. He had taken action over the accommodation issue five years ago, dropping his accommodation claim after public criticism.</p><p>It…</q></p>
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				<title>Keir Leslie</title>
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						<p>“I wouldn’t do that and I don't like it” is as close to “what the fuck were you playing at” as a minister can get when talking about another minister.</p><p>If English were simply unimpressed he’d have said something like “oh that’s a matter for Judith, I’m not going to…</p>
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						<p><q>has spoken up against ‘acting that way’</q></p><p>he has only said that *he* wouldn't</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>However, it’s not the fulsome denunciation that some are making it out to be.</q></p><p>I think it's reasonably significant. He makes it pretty clear Collins is Key's responsibility.</p>
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				<title>Pete George</title>
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						<p>It's good that finally someone from the National Cabinet has spoken up against 'acting that way' &ndash; some more takes on it from Twitter:<br /><q>Bill English visibly uncomfortable today answering questions #dirtypolitics allegations, partic those regarding Judith Collins.<br />English [on Collins giving Simon Pleasants' name to WO]: “That’s a style…</q></p>
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						<p><q>I can’t see English throwing civil servants under the bus</q></p><p>Me neither. But I certainly wouldn't say he's denouncing his colleagues who have.</p>
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				<title>Trevor Nicholls</title>
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						<p><q>The Collins stuff is pretty weak</q></p><p>Compared to what? It's less than murder, I suppose. But this is NZ, not Syria.</p>
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						<p>However, it's not the fulsome denunciation that some are making it out to be.</p><p><q>English said it was not his style to leak to Slater and he wouldn't do it.<br />"It's not a style I like," English said.</p><p>"I don't participate in it. I wouldn't do it &ndash; it's not…</q></p>
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						<p><q>Not to her behaviour in being a judge without disclosing a direct conflict of interest by being a friend of one of the candidates.</q></p><p>Yes, I completely agree.</p>
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				<title>Keir Leslie</title>
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						<p>I don't get why Ede didn't resign early and firewall the whole thing. The whole point of the fall guy is they can do the time to keep the don clean.</p><p>(Also, yes, I can't see English throwing civil servants under the bus.)</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/10399104/I-wouldn-t-leak-to-blogger-English" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">I wouldn't act that way</a>, says Bill English. I actually believe him.
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						<p><q>surely the MSM would stop interviewing the PM until he actually bothered to read and address the accusations made in the book</q></p><p>that would be grand, yes.</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<q>Is the journalism profession actually better than that? Really? I trust Russell to make honest decent calls but he's not making a real living from doing that. The only money in journalism depends on getting the sensational story whatever the cost &ndash; it feels very much like most journalists are…</q>
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						<p><q>relevant</q></p><p>Not to her behaviour in being a judge without disclosing a direct conflict of interest by being a friend of one of the candidates. Nobody forces people to lower their ethical standards like that. Depression certainly doesn't.</p>
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				<title>Gavin White</title>
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						I couldn't agree more Russell.  This 'they all do it' cop out is getting beyond a joke &ndash; there just isn't an equivalent to Slater on the left.  Any cursory read of the Standard shows that they've attacked Labour plenty of times, and H-Fee (trying to prove that Key had…
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p>Can we?</p><p>Really can we actually do better than this?</p><p>Because I'm feeling down today, too many people I know with bad things happening, I guess I'm also feeling particularly cynical.</p><p>But it seems to me that we now have a country that shrugs its collective shoulders when yet another…</p>
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				<title>Steve Curtis</title>
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						<p><q>smart move for Key now would be to sack Collins as a minister, deselect her as a candidate and declare a fatwa on party engagement with fringe wingnuts such as Slater.</q></p><p>This is never going to happen. The Collins stuff is pretty weak and  she  has done the hard  yards…</p>
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						<p><q>No one could with a straight face have given an award to the actual story Slater used these means to publish.</q></p><p>The judge who was responsible for that award was apparently Deborah Hill-Cone.  It might only be relevant for sensitivity's sake, but she [[http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&amp;objectid=11310184|has very recently written a piece about the…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q> Journalists can’t rule out reporting on or using as a source certain people or certain publications, shows or social media because, for example, someone associated openly admits to enjoying practicing dirty politics.</q></p><p>Oh yes they can, Pete.  They do every day of the week – a very long time ago,…</p>
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						As I read today's Herald piece on Slater using the former prostitute to dig dirt on public figures, I wondered how much power Slater would instantly lose if we all stopped giving a shit who was sleeping with whom. After all, the reason he's been able to wield so much…
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						<p><q> a chance to work some real and meaningful culture change the gain is worth the pain.</q></p><p>Hopefully.</p><p>Funny,  isn't it,  how some of us Pakeha look to Maori telly for 'decent' investigative journalism....and now,  thanks to Media Take,  commentary on the media itself.</p><p>I wonder why?</p>
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						<p>Brilliant show, Russell and Toi and Nicky. <br />A real privilege to see the recording of it.</p>
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						<p><q>someone associated</q></p><p>it's <strong>his</strong> blog. <br />stop trying to minimise things.</p>
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