Public Address | Cafe | Hard News: Victoria Crone and what politics is

Sacha

Thu, 24 Dec 2015 17:10:33 +1300

Theresa Gattung similarly fails to grasp the difference between being a corporate CEO and holding civic office.

Sacha

Tue, 22 Dec 2015 20:38:23 +1300

Quax did his prunes at the Council meeting and walked out because he couldn’t add a NIMBY-driven zoning item to the agenda?

Heard a bit on RNZ. Trying to relitigate fundamentals for the umpteenth time. Mayor was having none of it.

Jason Kemp

Tue, 22 Dec 2015 18:18:25 +1300

I suspect that the real challenge for any mayoral campaign is to get anyone to actually vote. I know a few of the local board members and they seem to be very motivated to work for the good of the community over a number of years.

Even so most of…

nzlemming

Fri, 18 Dec 2015 22:53:31 +1300

Lord knows what goes on in his mind

You're assuming there is one...

chris

Fri, 18 Dec 2015 11:05:13 +1300

I wonder how Contact’s power customers / shareholders feel about paying for her to run for mayor of Auckland?

Not particularly stoked ttytt. We only joined Contact the day that Pryke stepped down, and we’re currently going through the motions to get an export meter installed. I called them earlier…

Steve Withers

Fri, 18 Dec 2015 08:36:35 +1300

Did I hear the news right yesterday? Dick Quax did his prunes at the Council meeting and walked out because he couldn’t add a NIMBY-driven zoning item to the agenda?

Quax was elected by acclamation last time. That’s a disgrace. I’ll run against him next year just to force the…

Steve Withers

Fri, 18 Dec 2015 08:31:21 +1300

I thought it ethically interesting she was appointed to the Board of Contact Energy – at $126,000/annum – a week before announcing her campaign.

Hard not to see that is a defacto campaign contribution from a crony bloc. What are the names of the people involved in that decision? It…

Steve Withers

Fri, 18 Dec 2015 08:27:58 +1300

Hear! Hear!

Kumara Republic

Thu, 17 Dec 2015 23:54:53 +1300

The ones he mentioned by name? Mission Bay and St Heliers. Of course many of the houses there are 3 storey already – but they have one wealthy family living in them rather than multiple riff-raff who could afford to if there were terraced/apartment options. Some might even be brown!…

Sue

Thu, 17 Dec 2015 23:28:37 +1300

It would be great to know about more than just her employment
Being great at business or being on boards doesn't say much

Sacha

Thu, 17 Dec 2015 18:28:27 +1300

How would Crone handle well-resourced nimby advocates like Ak 2040 – whose leader just told Todd Niall on RNZ that council should have to ask each homeowner individually before rezoning their suburb to allow 3 storey intensification.

The ones he mentioned by name? Mission Bay and St Heliers. Of course many…

Kumara Republic

Thu, 17 Dec 2015 14:27:02 +1300

Speaking of the blubbery one ... it looks like it's not a happy ship over at Whaleoil Industries.

The schadenfreude, it is unavoidable.

Whaleoil Industries, it seems, is facing both a general strike and a shareholder revolt at once.

Rich of Observationz

Thu, 17 Dec 2015 13:25:22 +1300

Not initially, they just get their post blocked and an email:

In your comment you stated that "person" had unlawful relations with an "insert species"

This has been blocked as libellous – however, for the payment of $98.95, you can elevate your status to Principal Sojourner and gain the ability…

linger

Thu, 17 Dec 2015 12:50:44 +1300

Only works if you can moderate the twatcockery out of those who haven't paid enough. Or is that what you send the Imperial Grand Wizards round for?

Rich of Observationz

Thu, 17 Dec 2015 11:28:39 +1300

The names mean nothing to me, but I may have just discovered the elusive profitable online business model: pay to be a twatcock.

Basically, start a wingnut blog with subscription levels, and the more the subscriber pays, the more of a dick they can make of themselves, up to the…

George Darroch

Thu, 17 Dec 2015 11:12:15 +1300

"Sure, you’ve got all my money anyway. You’ve already wrecked the blog, pushed away all the commenters and reduced the traffic to a shadow of what it was. The experiment is coming to an end."

I almost feel sorry for him. Then I remember that he’s dedicated the last half-decade…

Russell Brown

Thu, 17 Dec 2015 10:59:11 +1300

Speaking of the blubbery one ... it looks like it's not a happy ship over at Whaleoil Industries.

The schadenfreude, it is unavoidable.

George Darroch

Thu, 17 Dec 2015 10:33:27 +1300

Crone’s also the kind of business leader Slater can’t bear and is of course associated with his new enemy Drury.

Oh, I just Googled. What a mess. Rodney Hide seems to be the source of this particular dispute.

Expect dirty attacks on Crone as Slater seeks to exact revenge by…

Tom Semmens

Thu, 17 Dec 2015 10:24:34 +1300

Lord knows what goes on in his mind.

And even the Lord has to shower with a steelo pad afterwards.

Rich of Observationz

Thu, 17 Dec 2015 09:31:34 +1300

Nothing like that bad, no.

izogi

Thu, 17 Dec 2015 09:29:30 +1300

Awesome. Thanks for that, Russell.

@Sacha –
Not seen that allegation. Link?

You're correct! I mis-read the Herald article. Sorry.

Russell Brown

Thu, 17 Dec 2015 07:17:49 +1300

I hope someone can immediately snuff this out, but with Auckland’s leadership at stake does she have any significant connections with the Dirty Politics crowd, and can any interference from that side be expected?

The short answer is (1) No, and (2) No. Michelle Boag is among those backing Crone…

Sacha

Thu, 17 Dec 2015 00:38:48 +1300

an allegedly funded campaign

Not seen that allegation. Link?

The credulous publisher would hardly require incentive to relay the ideological lines of an aligned libertarian dolt like Hide.

Keir Leslie

Wed, 16 Dec 2015 22:10:18 +1300

(a) people emmeshed in those networks are way more likely to vote, and (b) parties don't just build relationships in that way, they do that and a bunch of other stuff.

FletcherB

Wed, 16 Dec 2015 22:00:19 +1300

Do you think Trump calls himself a politician? I think the “I’m not a politician” line will actually resonate with a lot of people.

It's a great introduction, and catches a lot of attention... but you need to follow-up after that...

And theres only two possibilities...

1) you prove it's…

Sacha

Wed, 16 Dec 2015 20:41:56 +1300

I’ve never voted for him, mostly because he shows no sign of understanding what council actually does or wanting to learn

= Penny Bright

Swan

Wed, 16 Dec 2015 19:59:50 +1300

Do you think Trump calls himself a politician? I think the "I'm not a politician" line will actually resonate with a lot of people.

Rich of Observationz

Wed, 16 Dec 2015 19:41:18 +1300

Well, as one of the “entrepeneurial and tech sector” people, i’m certainly not going to be swayed on my vote by any pitch to my alleged “shared values”, because I don’t really have any. (We’ve had a “geek candidate” run for mayor in Wellington twice, and I’ve never voted for…

izogi

Wed, 16 Dec 2015 17:22:11 +1300

I hope someone can immediately snuff this out, but with Auckland's leadership at stake does she have any significant connections with the Dirty Politics crowd, and can any interference from that side be expected?

I mostly ask because of the connections to top levels of Xero, [[http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11559030|combined with Rod Drury's statement…

Sacha

Wed, 16 Dec 2015 17:01:02 +1300

a Tongan church

and there are some quite right-wing values in the more traditional parts of Pasifika and Maori communities. Hence the Nats testing the waters with Lotu-Iiga, Ngaro and gagging for Michael Jones to join their team.

Sacha

Wed, 16 Dec 2015 16:57:21 +1300

This follow-up from Rudman's article:

I'm guessing Ms Crone didn't sell herself to Contact Energy shareholders last week by proudly declaring her ignorance of the ways of the business world. Yet here we have her seeking support to become mayor of the Auckland Super City, the home of a third…

George Darroch

Wed, 16 Dec 2015 16:54:23 +1300

I’m not sure why either Phil Goff (“Kiwi Chinese”) or Victoria Crone (“the entrepreneurial and tech sectors”) expect people to block vote according to an ethnic or professional affiliation.

This is actually how politics works. You get out there and shake hands, and acquire support within identifiable groups. They aren't…

kris_b

Wed, 16 Dec 2015 16:36:27 +1300

"I'm not a politician!" seems like an odd pitch for someone running for political office.

Let's say I was pitching Crone to take over the legal work for her company. Would she take me at all seriously if I opened with "I'm not a lawyer!". What is it about the…

Ben Ross

Wed, 16 Dec 2015 16:06:46 +1300

Quoting Rudman:
But her naive comment about “serial” politicians reminds me of former prime minister Keith Holyoake’s much repeated advice to tenderfoot MPs, to “breathe through their noses” from the sidelines until they’ve learned the ropes.

The serial politician jibe was obviously directed at her main mayoral rival, former Labour…

David MacGregor

Wed, 16 Dec 2015 15:57:52 +1300

The skills needed to be a CEO vs a mayor are quite different. Even if there are some overlaps. The corporatising of government is well underway. In my mind the key difference is that a corporation can run as dictatorship if it wants to (benign or not). Most democratic entities…

Sofie Bribiesca

Wed, 16 Dec 2015 15:36:05 +1300

I think they just see themselves as "running a business" not taking care of Auckland and those in it. Just as I suspect National do with the Country.

Kumara Republic

Wed, 16 Dec 2015 15:25:01 +1300

Managing a city council just isn't the same as managing a tech startup, or any other company for that matter. Some people deliberately see no difference.

Sacha

Wed, 16 Dec 2015 15:05:01 +1300

I'm glad people are passionate enough to put themselves forward, but the political skills required to lead this region do not come from being an executive. Goff's to lose.

Peter Darlington

Wed, 16 Dec 2015 13:50:12 +1300

Even if she was a technical expert at Xero, there’s a world of difference between developing a greenfield, SAAS, SME accounting system and integrating existing corporate legacy systems with a massive amount of baggage – which can’t just be hand-waved away because as we saw with Novapay, all the boring…

Bill Eaton

Wed, 16 Dec 2015 13:35:21 +1300

You have said it better than I was about to. Thanks!

Joe Wylie

Wed, 16 Dec 2015 13:28:20 +1300

She probably have the entire mess cleared up within 6 months.

Sounds like the kind of endorsement that Rodney Hide's fanbase were once so fond of making.

Ian Dalziel

Wed, 16 Dec 2015 13:16:32 +1300

and very a-peeling on tuber...
...Boag's factions turn to pick a potato.
The 'eyes' have it!
;- )

Rich of Observationz

Wed, 16 Dec 2015 13:12:13 +1300

Exactly how does a career in sales and marketing qualify one as magically able to sort out a highly complex enterprise systems merger? It’s like expecting Jamie Oliver to be able to run Fonterra, because he knows about food (or conversely, Henry Van der Hayden to take over the chef’s…

Rich of Observationz

Wed, 16 Dec 2015 13:03:56 +1300

I’m not sure why either Phil Goff (“Kiwi Chinese”) or Victoria Crone (“the entrepreneurial and tech sectors”) expect people to block vote according to an ethnic or professional affiliation.

How about appealing to individuals with policies that might fix stuff?

Ben Ross

Wed, 16 Dec 2015 12:59:24 +1300

And this is where the Governing Body should tell the Council Chief Operating Officer to step aside and let Crone in to deal with the NEWCore system in a full autonomous manner following directions set out by the said Governing Body.

She probably have the entire mess cleared up within…

Russell Brown

Wed, 16 Dec 2015 12:51:45 +1300

Here's one serious problem – another one baked in during the central government-controlled transition process – that Crone would seem well-qualified to address: the serious risks in Auckland Council's vast, expensive NewCore information services development.

Tom Semmens

Wed, 16 Dec 2015 12:45:07 +1300

Collin's faction had a go with Pallino last time, now it is Boag's factions turn to pick a potato.

Public Address

Wed, 16 Dec 2015 12:45:07 +1300

Discussion from blog post.