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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p><q>He invented “Fuck John Key!” too, just quietly.</q><br />Indignant splutter..... I claim prior use, I have been saying that for over 6 years.</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p>Hear hear!</p><p>Tussock for Mayor!</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2014 10:44:59 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>and if some random guy sees the internet chanting “fuck John Key” and puts up his song to match it</q></p><p>He invented "Fuck John Key!" too, just quietly.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2014 10:30:38 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Brent Jackson</title>
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						Well said.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2014 10:18:48 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>tussock</title>
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						<p>Eh, shitty misogynistic lyrics in a rap song: news at 11.</p><p>I mean, I get your issue, Russell, Labour (and Green to some extent) are trying to run a positive campaign about how they are running a positive campaign, vs National's negative campaign, which they totally picked. It's similar in…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2014 17:29:24 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<p><q>We had someone come and get all the Year 13s who were 18 or who would be 18 by the election to fill in a form.</q></p><p>I don't mean people who are going to be able to vote at the election that is coming up in the next few months,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2014 16:46:17 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>This song dates from 2013. It was dredged up as a counter-play by National (probably their research unit) and fed into a oh-to-willing media via Slater/Hooton/Farrar and Lusk. And yes, you also took the bait.</p><p>Must we continue with blindly accepting the right’s framing of issues?</q></p><p>Please try not to…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2014 12:17:58 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<p><q>They must have been unable to believe their luck when Tom gave them exactly what they needed yesterday.</q></p><p>This song dates from 2013. It was dredged up as a counter-play by National (probably their research unit) and fed into a oh-to-willing media via Slater/Hooton/Farrar and Lusk. And yes, you also…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2014 11:51:44 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>And an even bigger part of it is the Electoral Commission is there not to be “fair” but to apply the law, even if it’s a bit of a flustercluck, in the world as it is.</q></p><p>To be fair the the Commission, its main job is running free and fair…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2014 10:49:05 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>If you unpack it, there’s no credible connection between these things (thus no campaign), and not much you could credibly call a ‘smear’. If we don’t unpack it, it becomes a central part of the election narrative.</q></p><p>Yes. The usual suspects were very keen yesterday to link 'Kill the PM'…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2014 10:47:20 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						More generally, the PM appears largely successful in his 'left-wing smear campaign' smear. That ties 'Dirty Politics' with 'F#%k JK' and effigy-burning (not smears, but who's questioning it) as well as 'Kill the PM' and 'Shylock'- and associates them with 'the left' eg Labour, the Greens, IMP, and most of…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2014 10:04:21 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Bunji at Te Standard is <a href="http://thestandard.org.nz/when-will-they-ever-learn/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">more direct</a> about it.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2014 08:39:37 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<p>Ah, the power of propaganda spread via a complicit media addicted to certain news sources.</p><p>Peter Fowler is to polite to say it, but you’ve all been played by Slater/Farrar/Hooton/Williams – <a href="http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/on-the-inside/253131/blogwatch-anatomy-of-misinformation" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">BlogWatch: Anatomy of misinformation.</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2014 08:32:14 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>WH</title>
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						<p>You have to be a bit careful about giving primacy to free speech rights in the context of the statutory regulation of elections.</p><p>This was one of the issues in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._Federal_Election_Commission#Majority_opinion" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission</a>, the US case that involved a hit job documentary about Hillary Clinton that a…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2014 05:40:28 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Max Call</title>
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						<p><q>I do wonder if we could enroll young people better if you could sign them up once they turned 17, so you could enroll people as part of year 13 at high school &ndash; say July or August.</p><p>And then put them on a holding roll until they turned 18.…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2014 22:18:28 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						as I said, the right doesn't need to resort to singing about change. They has resources and connections for that.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2014 22:12:43 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>Part of it may be that there are hardly any right-wing musicians and artists and those who are aren’t currently movement to anger.</q></p><p>And an even bigger part of it is the Electoral Commission is there not to be "fair" but to apply the law, even if it's a bit…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2014 22:07:00 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>    <em>Part of it may be that there are hardly any right-wing musicians and artists and those who are aren’t currently movement to anger.</em></p><p>Gray Bartlett’s one of the very few overt ones, and he goes way back to “The Ballad of Robbie Muldoon”.</q><br />Suzanne Prentice dedicated __I Wish I Was…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2014 20:24:44 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						I was really impressed with Laura's strategic grasp of what was needed. Eyes wide open. Am donating to RockEnrol as a result.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2014 19:15:57 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						<p><q>My memory is that the song was very much seen as affectionate.</q></p><p>Yeah, my memory was based on the words rather than the reaction.</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>I’m not sure if Ebony were left or right, but “Big Norm” was hardly complimentary to Norman Kirk PM (even if he did wish them luck).</q></p><p>My memory is that the song was very much seen as affectionate.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2014 18:24:22 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>He only reigns until his foes stop fumbling</q></p><p>nice turn of phrase. onya</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2014 18:18:08 +1200</pubDate>
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						<p>Turns out they were left(ish) and just capitalising on circumstances.</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIzCOdzxjKE" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIzCOdzxjKE</a></p>
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						<p><q>Part of it may be that there are hardly any right-wing musicians and artists and those who are aren’t currently movement to anger.</q></p><p>I'm not sure if Ebony were left or right, but "Big Norm" was hardly complimentary to Norman Kirk PM (even if he did wish them luck).<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJv_DfMZ7jU" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJv_DfMZ7jU</a></p>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>Part of it may be that there are hardly any right-wing musicians and artists and those who are aren't currently movement to anger.</q></p><p>Gray Bartlett's one of the very few overt ones, and he goes way back to "The Ballad of Robbie Muldoon".</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Any takers on that? I still can’t find any evidence of the Commission rattling any cages on the Right. Could it be they are clean as the proverbial whistle or is their boss glowering in their direction?.</q></p><p>Part of it may be that there are hardly any right-wing musicians and…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2014 16:58:31 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p><q>No, as wonderful as the internet is, I think those of you actually in NZ are better placed to be the judge of that.</q><br />Any takers on that? I still can't find any evidence of the Commission rattling any cages on the Right. Could it be they are clean as…</p>
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				<title>Keir Leslie</title>
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						More useful than a provisional roll, just let people vote at 16. Voting's a habit and people are more deeply tied into communities when 16-18, at school & home, than when living in flats often in different cities.
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				<title>Christopher Nimmo</title>
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						I thought we did have such a provisional roll? I certainly remember being on it two elections ago!
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<p>I do wonder if we could enroll young people better if you could sign them up once they turned 17, so you could enroll people as part of year 13 at high school &ndash; say July or August.</p><p>And then put them on a holding roll until they turned 18.…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						Kia ora!
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				<title>chris</title>
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						I hadn't watched any of the new series, the streaming experience back on TV3 was incredibly frustrating and in the end I just had to give it a miss. Media Take on the other hand streams like a baby. The theme tune is your best yet, no frills, fat as…
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						<p><q>Nah that’s the North and South Islands yer looking at</q></p><p>The Chch rebuild exodus.</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						Nah that's the North and South Islands yer looking at...
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						yes Greg, my definition of a "foreign millionaire" is "born overseas". As I stated, clearly, in my post &ndash; we also have enough problems with out homegrown millionaires and influence peddlers.
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						<p><q>Please correct me if you have seen such fairness.</q></p><p>No, as wonderful as the internet is, I think those of you actually in NZ are better placed to be the judge of that. I won't be back for another few months, so my view of what is happening is still…</p>
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						<p><q>(look you can see the Greens in there)</q></p><p>Really? A wheelbarrow of dirt, a log, a bucket of something being carried on someone's head, a cartload of grass (not even bothering to refine it into milk any more? Shipped all the cows overseas, too?)... I see a lot of extractive…</p>
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						<p><q>Nor does it read as such. It’s much more “this is what I’ve been doing” than “vote for me!”</q><br />It seems to me and I think this needs closer attention, that if the material is coming from a left leaning site/person then the Electoral Commission gets their heckles up and…</p>
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						<p><q> in the privet/public cusp. </q></p><p>Leaning on the hedge, as it were?</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>Re the show on Tuesday night:</strong><br />I thought Toi rather missed Laura O’Connell Rapira's point when he said 'we'll see you next election', as she had just stressed that phase II of RockEnrol's vision was to continue to engage young voters after the election.<br />Maybe you could check in with…</p>
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						<p><strong>I’ve beanstalkin’…</strong><br /><q>A fee? Fie! He only reigns until his foes stop fumbling</q><br />We <em>do</em> need a ‘giant killer’ (figuratively of course!)<br />and ‘David’ Cunliffe does look a lot like Stumbo…<br />time for a real bridge builder<br />(look you can see the Greens in there)<br />rather than a spanner in…</p>
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						But it's not news when same magazine is still sitting in doctors, dentists, physios's & tyre repair waiting rooms etc 3 months later, right in the middle of an election campaign and the AB's are playing AU, SAF etc. That is the calculation made by the message managers in getting that…
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				<title>Dismal Soyanz</title>
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						Yesterday's (26th August) Nine to Noon had a good segment with Hayden Wilson of Kensington Swan on the Planet Key song which discussed albeit briefly the different treatment of blogs and MSM.
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				<title>Greg Dawson</title>
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						<p><q>‘cos he sure acts like he has ’a lien’ on the country…</q></p><p>A fee? Fie! He only reigns until his foes stop fumbling, anyway.</p>
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						<p><strong>forex a jolly good fellow...</strong><br /><q>do you have to be born overseas to be a “foreign” millionaire?</q><br />John Key was born in Auckland<br />that's a foreign country to us Chchch folk<br />(even if we did raise that viper at our breast)<br />let's exchange 'foreign' for 'alien'<br />'cos he sure acts…</p>
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						<p><q>It wasn’t solicited as such.</q></p><p>Is it your solicitation, or the purpose of the writing itself that makes it an advertisement? I read it as James making a perfectly valid pitch to raise his profile as an electoral candidate on a widely read medium. If it had been you or…</p>
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						<p><q>It wasn't solicited as such.</q></p><p>Nor does it read as such. It's much more "this is what I've been doing" than "vote for me!"</p>
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						<p><q>It does seem rather like an electoral advertisement.</q></p><p>It wasn't solicited as such. I asked readers for guest posts, particularly about electorate battles.</p><p><q>What’s crazy is not that you should be required to carry the promoter statement, but that practically every opinion piece in the Herald shouldn’t have to.</q></p><p>Well,…</p>
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				<title>Greg Dawson</title>
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						<p><q>Maybe I’m earning my tinfoil hat for this, but I can’t help but be very worried about the influence of foreign millionaires on our internal politics.</q></p><p>Do you have to be born overseas to be a “foreign” millionaire?</p><p>I've read plenty of research in the last few years indicating that…</p>
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						<p>It does seem rather like an electoral advertisement. What’s crazy is not that you should be required to carry the promoter statement, but that practically every opinion piece in the Herald shouldn’t have to. </p><p>I mean the idea of these statements, so far as I understood, is so that people…</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q>Surely PA of all places is a “news media Internet site”?</q></p><p>"Hard News" even</p>
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				<title>Idiot Savant</title>
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						<p><q>The same would not, however, apply if James' post were to be published as a newspaper column. This is strange.</q></p><p>Surely PA of all places is a "news media Internet site"?</p>
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						<p>God grief. Graeme Edgeler has helpfully advised me that on the basis of discussions he's had with the Electoral Commission, this morning's <a href="http://publicaddress.net/speaker/why-im-standing-in-ilam/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">guest post by James Dann about why he's standing in Ilam</a> should carry a promoter statement, as if it were an electoral advertisement.</p><p>The same would not, however,…</p>
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						Also, everyone please note that as promised I've updated the original post with links to last night's show and relevant documents and opinions. Plenty to be chewing over!
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						<q>What do “tribes” have to do with it? Russell and I have been having *cough* free and frank exchanges of views for years, but even if Fiona, Jimmy and Leo weren’t friends I don’t take cheap shots at them to get at Russell. He repays the courtesy. It’s just what…</q>
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				<title>Pharmachick</title>
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						<p>Hi Tom Semmens, I'm truly sorry that I got you mixed up with Tom Scott the lyricist/singer yesterday.</p><p>I do take your point about attacks on democracy. Personally, I'm not partisan right or left but I sincerely worry about how this election is going. Maybe I'm earning my tinfoil hat…</p>
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						Yes, I can see that Deep Red. And there are many, many examples of "shock" tactics like this from the past. It is interesting that a lot of the guys from NWA now admit that some of the lyrics were wrong, although they still hold fast tot he protests they…
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						I agree with you Craig. Its disturbing. I couldn't care less if this band is left, right or whatever, they've made a grave error of judgement with such violent tripe. I really wish they would come out and admit it was wrong.
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						What do "tribes" have to do with it?  Russell and I have been having *cough* free and frank exchanges of views for years, but even if Fiona, Jimmy and Leo weren't friends I don't take cheap shots at them to get at Russell.  He repays the courtesy.  It's just what…
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<p><q>Via Photoshop. And headed “Leader of the Pack”. In an election period.</q></p><p>Well, that's a zebra of a different stripe.  Details that I wasn't fully aware of.</p>
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						<p><q>Didn’t Russell describe himself as such? Even then, I’m amused when moderate liberals get the Reductio ad Stalinum label thrown at them – I’m looking at you, Redsterbaiter &amp; Mr Loudon.</q></p><p>Wasn't the point that someone (Russell) on 'the left' can quite happily publicly note when they think someone on their…</p>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<q>And, if we are all honest with ourselves, that what these lyrics not only represent, but illustrate beautifully… a callous disregard for a young woman as a sex object for someone else to “make a point” – in this case the really weak “oh, I was looking for attention to…</q>
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						<p><q>Take note Prime Minister, MSM, and bloggers of the sewers &ndash; RB is a man who has been described as 'tribal Labour'* simply and swiftly rejecting some anti-JK speech as beyond the pale.</q></p><p><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&amp;objectid=11281731" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Didn't Russell describe himself as such</a>? Even then, I'm amused when moderate liberals get the Reductio ad Stalinum…</p>
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						<p><q>I take heart from that. They wouldn't publish it if they didn't think it was a real possibility.</q></p><p>From that article, I sense the barbarians are tugging at the gate.</p>
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						(Should probably clarify that last post's line about the timing was a paraphrase, not a direct quote btw) The other thing that made me smile was the admiration for the way the PM was such a staunch supporter, always so happy to be seen to be supporting the team. Yes,'…
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						Thank you, that was enlightening. Also kind of hilarious. 'It never occurred to us it would come out so close to an election...' Bless their fuzzy woolly socks.
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						<p><q>Did anyone ask Rugby News why they thought it was a good idea, which is what I seem to recall was Key’s explanation?</q></p><p>More seriously, <a href="http://www.sportsfreak.co.nz/that-john-key-cover-rugby-news-responds/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">there’s a very elongated response from the editor posted here</a>, originally posted as a comment on an earlier post of that blog, if you click…</p>
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						<p><q> This one is a picture of a politician masquerading as an All Black, wearing their uniform, and flanked by real All Blacks.</q></p><p>You mean he hadn't actually been selected??</p><p>LIARS!</p><p>I <em>knew</em> something was up when he didn't run onto the field.</p>
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						<p><q>This one is a picture of a politician masquerading as an All Black, wearing their uniform, and flanked by real All Blacks.</q></p><p>And Key reckoned he got a text message from McCaw that he read out at the National party campaign launch. Tthe rugby union needs to yank McCaws chain…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Those were standard articles about a politician and it wasn’t during an election campaign.</q></p><p>Those mags were also central to the media strategy that introduced Key to New Zealanders. Not their fault at all: they were presented with "at home with" stories, their stock in trade, that Clark was notoriously…</p>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						Those were standard articles about a politician and it wasn't during an election campaign.  This one is a picture of a politician masquerading as an All Black, wearing their uniform, and flanked by real All Blacks. A use and abuse of 'iconic' imagery on many levels, designed to be displayed…
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<p><q>What about the cover of the rugby magazine with John Key pretending to be an All Black? It is in every book and magazine shop and dairy across NZ. Surely that is an election advertisement. Much more so than a song or a former MP’s dresses.</q></p><p>A few election cycles…</p>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<p>That’s quite funny. To many Toms.</p><p>But I guess I am a bit mixed on this. Unlike a lot of people I think this is just all the noise of democracy. I don’t like a conversation of elites. On the other hand, if you’ve got dirty politics and libels proliferating…</p>
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						<p><q>Because it’s a great way of continuing the framing that the left are smearing the right rather than vice versa. Thanks a bunch, you twats.</q></p><p>I have pointed this out to Tom.</p>
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						<p><q>Can we ban Granny?</p><p>Tamsyn Parker: How to “Labour-proof” your portfolio</q></p><p>I take heart from that. They wouldn't publish it if they didn't think it was a real possibility.</p>
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						<p><q>Except we *don't* have a ban on that; not explicitly at least. The High Court in Watson's application for review has a chance to make that clear. No vote in Parliament needed, thank goodness.</q></p><p>No, but we do have a ban on using Parliament TV footage to do it with.</p>
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						<p><q>many involved in Dirty Politics directly have taken such a dim view (understatement) of the song</q></p><p>Like <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=11314552" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">the PM</a></p><p><q>Mr Key said it was just the latest in a string of attacks on his character and he did not want to dignify it with a response.</q></p><p>Because it's a great way…</p>
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						<p><strong></strong><strong>[Stands up and applauds]</strong><strong></strong>*</p><p> Tinakori: <br />No.</p><p>It would be no more acceptable nor better.</p><p>Thank you for pointing out my mistake as well as highlighting the rest of these horrid attitudes. </p><p>After all, it's not 1912 (is it?)?</p>
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						<p><q>is it only the right that have protest songs written about them?</q></p><p>the right have enough power that they don't need to resort to singing to change the world.</p>
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						<p><q>That young girl did nothing to deserve this, she never stood for office or made herself part of the NZ political conversation/landscape.</q></p><p>Why, would it be any better or acceptable if they had stood for office or been part of the political landscape? The tendency to demonise your political opponents…</p>
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						Oh, whoops, I am sorry. Can I fix it?
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						<p>Hi Russell,</p><p>I listened to the song and thought they had the beginnings of something really great… but after the end of the first verse, then the chorus about what he was going to do to that young girl I found myself really angry and sickened and I shut it…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>If you’re the Tom of the song, please</q></p><p>No, he's not. That's Tom Scott. (Who is is not the Tom Scott who is the father of Sam Scott, who has also commented in this thread.)</p>
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				<title>Shaun Lott</title>
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						In 1970s Britain, the kid's TV show <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr_Benn" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Mr Benn</a> was removed during an election because <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Benn" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Tony Benn</a> was a candidate. So, nothing new under the sun.
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						<p>Thanks for your reply Tom. </p><p>However, I take a wee bit of offense at your conflation of MLK's black civil rights "voiceless" who were the products of slavery and a system as bad, if not worse, than apartheid; with your own situation. </p><p>Clearly, you're not voiceless. Publicly funded monies have…</p>
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				<title>Matt Crawford</title>
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						<p>Take note Prime Minister, MSM, and bloggers of the sewers &ndash; RB is a man who has been described as 'tribal Labour'* simply and swiftly rejecting some anti-JK speech as beyond the pale.</p><p>If only the Minister of Justice and PM had a similar moral compass.</p><p>The National-run activist group…</p>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<p><q> <em> Serious question though &ndash; when have the police ever actually progressed an Electoral Commission referral to the stage of pressing charges?</em></p><p>They do it sometimes in relation to people who "double vote". But in regards other matters … never, to my knowledge.</q></p><p>A couple of elections ago, before this…</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>do these people not have mirrors?</q><br />Ya have to show up in mirrors!  </p><p>They're only just barely videogenic<br />and register in Dorian Grayscale...</p>
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				<title>Luke Williamson</title>
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						Love @Peace/Homebrew but definitely do not love that song. Take it back, start again.
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p>And the following year, just before he was assassinated, he said:</p><p><em>"I think that we've got to see that a riot is the language of the unheard."</em></p>
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				<title>bob daktari</title>
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						<p><q>Ironically, it's a great groove. But I won't even be linking to it.</q></p><p>let down by such pathetic lyrics &ndash; they're way better than this, could have been a great song but alas not so</p><p>Must admit I find it funny many involved in Dirty Politics directly have taken such…</p>
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				<title>Mick Buckley</title>
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						Northland rugby breached the electoral act with its 'Cheering For Northland' billboard.  There were complaints to the electoral commission and they made a slight alterations, removing the Na characters (start of the National logo) but leaving the image of John Key.  Last time I looked the billboards were still up.
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				<title>Dean Wallis</title>
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						<p>Can we ban Granny?</p><p><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/personal-finance/news/article.cfm?c_id=12&amp;objectid=11312282" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Tamsyn Parker: How to "Labour-proof" your portfolio</a></p>
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				<title>Carol Stewart</title>
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						Are you explaining or excusing there, Tom?
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						<p>I will wait for Slater, Farrar, Hooton and Odgers to be charged for their rather more substantive conspiracy, then. Think I'll be waiting a while.</p><p>(Paremoremo's convenient for Warkworth though &ndash; maybe they'll give Farrar day release to attend foo camp?)</p>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<p><q>When people are voiceless, they will have temper tantrums like a little child who has not been paid attention to.</q></p><p>&mdash; Martin Luther King, Jr. July, 1967</p>
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				<title>Andrew Geddis</title>
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						<p><q>Serious question though &ndash; when have the police ever actually progressed an Electoral Commission referral to the stage of pressing charges?</q></p><p>They do it sometimes in relation to people who "double vote". But in regards other matters … never, to my knowledge.</p><p>Hey &ndash; the system works!</p>
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				<title>Michael J. Parry</title>
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						<p><q>If you see a poster advertising the cover, feel free to complain about that to the Electoral Commission :-)</q></p><p>Serious question though &ndash; when have the police ever actually progressed an Electoral Commission referral to the stage of pressing charges?</p>
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						<q>I think both the left and the right have a broad allowance for strong speech along with their strong beliefs. But this really crosses the line – inciting murder and sexual violence is sickening. It is not edgy. It is not cool. And I absolutely respect the author of this…</q>
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						<p><q>Yes – but what politician will vote to repeal a ban on satirising politicians?</q></p><p>Except we *don't* have a ban on that; not explicitly at least. The High Court in Watson's application for review has a chance to make that clear.  No vote in Parliament needed, thank goodness.</p>
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						I think both the left and the right have a broad allowance for strong speech along with their strong beliefs. But this really crosses the line &ndash; inciting murder and sexual violence is sickening. It is not edgy. It is not cool. And I absolutely respect the author of this…
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						<p><q>The sentiment in the title of ‘Kill the PM’ crosses a line and the stuff about Key’s daughter more particularly crosses several more. I think the song has been played live by @Peace and Home Brew before, but posting it now is really Not Helping. Fucksake.</q></p><p>Safe to say it's…</p>
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				<title>Lucy Telfar Barnard</title>
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						<p>Are there any instances of the Electoral Commission making dubious rulings about songs denegrating the left? Or is it just the right that get this sort of protection? Or (more probably) is it only the right that have protest songs written about them?</p><p>At the moment it's feeling very difficult…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2014 13:01:43 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<p><q>What about the cover of the rugby magazine with John Key pretending to be an All Black? It is in every book and magazine shop and dairy across NZ. Surely that is an election advertisement.</q></p><p>If you see a poster advertising the cover, feel free to complain about that to…</p>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						Broadcasting Act charges have a six month time limit, so Jono and Ben are now in the clear.
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				<title>Samuel Scott</title>
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						I don't even want to listen to that @peace song. I love the band and think Tom has a remarkable way with words, but pushing boundaries can easily slip into being totally awful. He seems almost contrite now on twitter. Claiming he was just trying to get attention to encourage…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2014 12:57:38 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						The Electoral Commission seems to have really jumped the shark with <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503462&amp;objectid=11311144" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this one</a>.
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				<title>Idiot Savant</title>
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						<p><q>And in any case, Jono and Ben spoof is absolutely fantastic: this sort of satire should only be encouraged, surely!</q></p><p>Yes &ndash; but what politician will vote to repeal a ban on satirising politicians?</p>
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				<title>Marcelo Rodriguez Ferrere</title>
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						<p>Specifically, it's little blurrier, since I think the Commission (rightly or wrongly) has regarded it as falling within the 'editorial content of a periodical' exception to the definition of 'election advertisement' (not 'news' per se). </p><p>Nevertheless, that doesn't mean its ruling on Watson's song is correct and I agree with…</p>
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				<title>Idiot Savant</title>
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						<p><q>What about the cover of the rugby magazine with John Key pretending to be an All Black? It is in every book and magazine shop and dairy across NZ. Surely that is an election advertisement. Much more so than a song or a former MP's dresses.</q></p><p>That's "news".</p>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						What about the cover of the rugby magazine with John Key pretending to be an All Black? It is in every book and magazine shop and dairy across NZ. Surely that is an election advertisement. Much more so than a song or a former MP's dresses.
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				<title>Public Address</title>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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