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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p><q>given that the announcement was consistently presented as being about research rather than income support or service eligibility.</q></p><p>Hmmm...maybe not the right place to talk about this as this post is about RNZ's ratings.  Suffice to say,  that other media articles <strong>did</strong> actually talk about service provision, in terms of…</p>
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				<title>izogi</title>
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						<p>Sorry.  I haven't quite figured out their new website.  I was meaning to link to the following item on Morning Report (which they've titled <em>"Labour calls land information data 'shonky'"</em>).  I've probably accidentally found a general link to the current person's playlist.</p><p><a href="http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/audio/201810496/labour-calls-land-information-data-&#039;shonky&#039;" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">I think this one should work</a>.</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						I don't see that story as problematic, given that the announcement was consistently presented as being about research rather than income support or service eligibility.
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p><q> considering that not turning up at all gives opposing voices free reign.</q></p><p>izogi...that link goes to my playlist at RNZ...how did that happen?</p>
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				<title>izogi</title>
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						<p>Yes, I heard it too.</p><p><q>oh I suspect some may realise they're better off not turning up.</q></p><p>Or they just need to get better at it, considering that not turning up at all <a href="http://www.radionz.co.nz/audio/player?audio_id=201810496" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">gives opposing voices free reign</a>.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2016 11:38:22 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p>Yes,  it was listening to that particular Natrad piece that prodded me to make my comment above.</p><p>We got up at four in the morning to be present at what we suspected was going to be another happy- clappy -this- is- all-good event.</p><p>We might have well not bothered.</p><p>Does…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2016 10:25:31 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						oh I suspect <a href="http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/audio/201810495/upston-defends-reliability-of-latest-foreign-buyer-numbers" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">some may realise</a> they're better off not turning up.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2016 10:15:35 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p><q>Hopefully it also puts a dent in Ministers’ ability to to avoid showing up on RNZ programmes with the excuse of preferring to go where the audiences are.</q></p><p>If I may tweak that a little....</p><p>"Hopefully it will ensure that RNZ shows up when the Ministers are star performers in…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2016 10:04:20 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>izogi</title>
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						<p><q>it might mean an end to all those stupid stunts/competitions that the commercial wallies used go run around radio survey time.</q></p><p>Hopefully it also puts a dent in Ministers' ability to to avoid showing up on RNZ programmes with the excuse of preferring to go where the audiences are.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2016 09:48:28 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jim Cathcart</title>
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						<p><q> But RNZ is in the new survey conducted by the Australian company GfK, which took over the commercial ratings from Research International last year, after a messy period in which there was no overall commercial ratings survey. </q></p><p>GfK is actually a German company and Research International folded quite some ago.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2016 21:02:27 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						one of the biggest differentiators in streamable-speed broadband to the home is rurality.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2016 18:17:52 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Add “don’t have access to broadband” to your “can’t afford tech"</q></p><p>The World Internet Project surveys carried out by AUT have been showing a more complex picture than that for a while – notably, they showed that Maori/Pasifika households led the rest of the market in music streaming, and <em>paid</em>…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2016 16:31:13 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						Another positive outcome: it might mean an end to all those stupid stunts/competitions that the commercial wallies used go run around radio survey time.
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>I have been told, by a reliable source, that a condition of RNZ being part of the new ratings system is that they are constrained from publically comparing their results against the commercial networks. </q></p><p>That's what the Star Times story pretty clearly implies.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2016 15:59:22 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						I guess the Sunday Star Times covering this story is a poke-in-the-eye for NZME's radio interests . But it might not help their merger plans.
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						<p>I have been told, by a reliable source,  that  a condition of RNZ being part of the new ratings system is that they are constrained from publically comparing their results against the commercial networks. Neither do they have the budget to buy full-page, self-congratulatory newspaper ads.</p><p>Which is all rather…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2016 15:49:51 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Brent Jackson</title>
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						Add "don't have access to broadband" to your "can't afford tech"
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				<title>James Littlewood*</title>
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						<p>Hypothesis: in addition to elders, another demographic watching broadcast media is those who can't afford tech. </p><p>Any mention of that kinda thing?</p>
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				<title>James Littlewood*</title>
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						<p><q>81%. And the watchers are older, therefore they are more likely to vote.</q></p><p>Good point.</p><p>I'm rather hooked into SVOD. Watching a signal routed from my phone onto the TV screen feels like a somewhat dedicated network. I'd watch TVOD a lot more if a) they cut the ads (fat…</p>
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				<title>simon g</title>
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						<p>This paragraph deserves highlighting:</p><p><q>Although linear TV still attracts more consumers than any other medium,  by a large margin – 81% of us watch it on a given day – the biggest differentiator in using alternatives is age. The younger you are, the more online media you’re likely to consume.</q>…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2016 11:38:54 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9DlMDEIHx0" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9DlMDEIHx0</a><br />The Australasian/US joint production <em>Cleverman</em> at least got a Screen Production Grant (for Pukeko Pictures and Park Road I assume)  and has far more substance than <em>Filthy Rich</em>  – which on my brief attempt at watching seemed mired in the ’90s , if not <em>Gloss</em> on P.<br />Though those…</p>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p><q>The Edge’s well-engineered pop fare makes it the most listened-to individual station in the land.</q></p><p>I guess most people don't want to hear any music they haven't heard a hundred times before.</p>
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				<title>Martin Brown</title>
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						Duncan Aggrieved, perhaps.  Great to see RNZ with so much share, now they're being measured properly. Must be infuriating to the commercial media companies &ndash; this is audience ( they can't package up and  sell ) that seems to appreciate intelligent comment and it's growing.
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q> I appreciate NZOA are trying to figure out how to best allocate limited funds and support emerging trends, but I was disappointed they didn’t at least ask the question.</q></p><p>That’s fair enough. Meanwhile, Duncan Greive is, I think, <a href="http://thespinoff.co.nz/tv/26-07-2016/why-the-hell-did-filthy-rich-just-get-7m-to-make-a-second-season/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">understandably aggrieved</a> about another seven million dollars going to <em>Filthy Rich</em>, given…</p>
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				<title>Stephen Knightly</title>
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						The NZ On Air Audience report is really comprehensive, but I'm disappointed they didn't look at anything <em>interactive</em> like apps, ebooks, interactive documentaries and games yet they look at more niche things like torrenting and webseries. It only looks at how to take linear content and distribute it in digital…
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						Relevant: <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/opinion-analysis/82622523/Mike-O-Donnell-Why-the-radio-sounds-a-bit-blurry" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">a good column by Mike O'Donnell on audience fragmentation and how RNZ is doing online</a>.
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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