Rock the Nation: 100 New Zealand Music Moments

For those who missed it, episode one repeated: C4, this Sat., 17th May, 8:30.

Well said that man. Maybe it was my education in physiology coupled with being a distance runner but drugs never really appealed. There are too many people who think there is such a thing…

That sounds like you're trying to educate people about drugs Russell. Society doesn't need education, every knows we're to stupid for education, we…

...and it's tolerated but you cant be poor and living in sth aux.

I'm poor and I live in Mt Eden. Does that count?

Mt Eden jail ???

...do what you like cos no one gives a shit about you behind bars

Who knows? Although I suspect a point is a malleable measure.

Especially given the sorts of scales P-dealers use.

Really, is it too much to ask that they get something accurate to 0.01g if they're selling in 0.1gs?

These sorts of things should be regulated to stop their customers getting…

bet that boney m dude got so much pussy dressed like that. Which raises the point that i don't mind being the only brown guy in a room full of white women.

oops... can i say that round here ?

aww man i hate it when i'm the only brown guy in the room :)

It could be worse:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=6qJTyGmZeLo

your story does illustrate something else: you can smoke some meth on a weekend and still be a grad student.

...and it's tolerated but you cant be poor and living in sth aux.

Many may have been…

So I (discretely) asked a couple of grad students in my lab how much they bought it for – they said they wouldn't pay over $40 a point.

Maybe there's an Auckland bubble.

Who knows? Although I suspect a point is a malleable measure.

But your story does illustrate something…

Parsley can trip you out a bit, as can cough syrup of course. Cough syrups I have not taken but I have spent an evening with a man who drank two bottles. He went insane…

Cracks me up how folks on…

If people can't get good drugs, they'll resort to what they can get – Salvia (which might or might not be a bad idea) and making Meth out of household…

A moral panic is just going to market it to a mainstream audience, and there's probably no one who wants that, or for a whole new class of criminal to be created out of a few harmless people who want to explore their heads.

My impression is that the hallucinogenics…

So you admit you know nothing about it, but take the opportunity to have a crack at the journalist anyway?

I know often the media grossly inflate the dollar value of drugs (I think the police do too, so it's all a lot more scandalous) but in this case she's…

I don't know if this is the correct one, Craig, but Labelle's costumery, as a group, was uniformly Teh Awesome.

Lordy, no. I can't find it, but the head-gear was absolutely terrifying. But oh how I miss music television which involves a live audience of awkward white people desperately trying…

...ultimate proof if any were needed that disillusioned young polynesians identify more with hiphop street culture than their own traditional ones and that core values have been well and truly supplanted

hiphop is the new brown religion...

...scary…

"...have you guys posted/chatted about 'colourway' records the STh Aux hiphop label and alleged money laundering arm of the killa bees and tribesmen gangs ?..."

I am not entirely sure if that subject fits with the age and demographical profile of PA.

Not so much of that, but really just another…

aww man i hate it when i'm the only brown guy in the room :)

Cheer up. At least you're not the only one from Christchurch ...

giovanni: don't say that, or we'll have Jim Anderton trying to ban gnocchi as drug paraphanalia...

I'm not worried, I make my own. Unless you think he'd go as far as to restrict the sale of the main ingredient – then I might have to resort to buying pseudopotatoes.

Call…

I am not entirely sure if that subject fits with the age and demographical profile of PA.

aww man i hate it when i'm the only brown guy in the room :)

I am not entirely sure if that subject fits with the age and demographical profile of PA.

...have you guys posted/chatted about 'colourway' records the STh Aux hiphop label and alleged money laundering arm of the killa bees and tribesmen gangs ?

Speaking of drugs, did anyone else watch Lisa Owens rather hysterical drugs story on TVNZ last night in which the outraged wrath of the TVOne news crew was visited upon a witless rural dairy owner who was selling (perfectly legal) speed precursors?

I watched it Danyl, and I actually thought…

Where have you been? :)

uh yeah sorry for not being a total slave to the 'puter :P

Are you taking public questions for BS ???

if so, can you ask when he's going to step aside and let some fresh blood take it to the next level but maybe find a nicer way of putting it...heh

Be well keen on hearing the NZoA debate on 7 but don't have freeview. Any chance of youtubing it ?

Where have you been? :)

Every episode has been available at TVNZonDemand, Youtube, and pod-cast, direct from the manufacturers (ie. not a dodgy upload by a private individual) approximately the…

Be well keen on hearing the NZoA debate on 7 but don't have freeview. Any chance of youtubing it ?

It's on YouTube and in various formats via TVNZ. I'll link to it all on Thursday.

...funniest thing was Dick Drivers 'do' from whatever it…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9uLbTkqaxc

I've never seen them looking anything less than stellar.

Simon, that Lionel info is illuminating. No wonder he went to hell in a handbasket so rapidly.

Brilliant. Best use of pink fake feathers in a non-pron video ever.

Somewhere on You Tube there's an awe-inspring clip of Patti Labelle in what I can only describe as a headdress that resembles a fluorescent Emu that exploded after attempting to mate with her 'fro.

Who the hell needs…

I only recently discovered that the actual theme tune was 'Machine Gun' by The Commodores.

Brilliant. Best use of pink fake feathers in a non-pron video ever.

You can make it with commonly available over the counter cold-pills so long as they contain pseudoephedrine but if you've bought any of these in the last couple of years you know…

I found Karyn to be painful ...I don't know what she used to be like a presenter (a bit before my time), but I'd struggle to think of a more uncomfortable, un-energetic T.V host!

Something else to keep in mind – before Karyn Hay turned up on the telly, most…

I was pretty sure there was a big difference between "pure" crystal meth and the backyard variety commonly found in NZ. Sorry I can't put my finger on what the difference is, but I did thing I had something to do with the ingredients. Perhaps it has something to…

Well, if yopu mean ingredients are imported, then yes they are. But it can be cookedout of stuff which is pretty much over the counter or presectiption based... not hard.

"One…

Based on all the labs that the police keep finding, I think it's the missing raw ingredient that is snuck into the country, a fair bit of manufacture takes place here.

I very much doubt most (if not all) of the labs are "pure" crystal meth. There's no point in…

Cheers, Lionel! You were a total badass before all that 'Dancing on the Ceiling' palaver!

What what I understand Lionel always wanted that sort of palaver, it was the others in the band who wanted the fonk to continue. They made a couple of killer funk records in the mid…

the theme tune to Ready to Roll

I only recently discovered that the actual theme tune was 'Machine Gun' by The Commodores.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4m-I9eD2jQQ

(Warning: intense Soul Train awesomeness starts 20 seconds in. Cheers, Lionel! You were a total badass before all that 'Dancing on the Ceiling' palaver!)

RTR. Ohhhhh, the…

One would think that the pure meth is imported into NZ, so $1000 a gram is not out of the question. On the streets of Osaka, it used to be readily available for as little as 10,000 yen ($120) per gram.

Based on all the labs that the police keep…

I felt like a proper senior citizen when Rock The Nation explained what the "ReadyTo Roll" television programme was. And then Petra Bagust called it "RTR Countdown", which was its late '80s incarnation, and that made me feel less a senior citizen and more middle-aged.

I can remember being four…

"Harm reduction". Two little words that mean so much more. I haven't taken any recreational drugs other than booze and caffeine since I turned 20. I…

I found Karyn to be painful ...I don't know what she used to be like a presenter (a bit before my time), but I'd struggle to think of a more uncomfortable, un-energetic T.V host!

She was kind of...well, judge for yourself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENdZNGLVOEg

She'd had an evening programme on Radiio Hauraki…

If anyone has a recording of said "high times" doco, I'd like acopy... please email me if you know where to source it (or better still, someone throw it up on teh web)

Try your local university library. University of Otago has a copy recorded off TV3 in 2005 for…

Um, yes... Perhaps an undercover reporter should gain covert access to Ms. Owens' house and see what they can see. I'd be very surprised if you couldn't cook up some chemical mayhem after a quick trawl through her kitchen, bathroom and garage.

Yes. One of the ingredients of GHB, which…

Then again.. I'd be dreaming if the media actualy looked into NZ's number one most harmful drug.

Booze.

Which also happens to be NZ's number one tastiest drug.

If anyone has a recording of said "high times" doco, I'd like acopy... please email me if you know where to source it (or better still, someone throw it up on teh web)

Booze.

Drug Hysteria... pity the things are never as good as the media make them out to be.

Speaking of drugs, did anyone else watch Lisa Owens rather hysterical drugs story on TVNZ last night in which the outraged wrath of the TVOne news crew was visited upon a witless rural dairy owner who was selling (perfectly legal) speed precursors?

Um, yes... Perhaps an undercover reporter should gain…

But, if its the interview I think it was (I was in that show twice AFAIR, once about punk / Zwines) I think I was trying to make the point that contrary to the reputation it had, drugs didn't play a massive part in early NZ club land.

I got…

Simon appeared outside a brick wall as a 'club owner' from the period.

High Times was made by my old flatmate (78-80) David Herkt and I was persuaded to appear in such guise because I guess no-one else wanted to and I tend to get dragged in for these sorts…

Anyone know if it's going to have a repeat, err , 'encore' screening on C4? (the website doesn't indicate so)

It even features Simon Grigg!

I think he was also on 'High Times', part two (1970 – 1986) of which was on TV late last night – part three on next week, same time. A pretty good documentary about the history of NZ drugs – wish I'd caught part 1…

I'm not sure Ms Owen has the facts on her side this time.

Or perhaps someone's dealer is taking her for a ride...

Speaking of drugs, did anyone else watch Lisa Owens rather hysterical drugs story on TVNZ last night in which the outraged wrath of the TVOne news crew was visited upon a…