Public Address | Cafe | Hard News: Trump's Dummkopfs

Ian Dalziel

Fri, 04 Nov 2016 10:30:51 +1300

This Guardian piece, 'Ghastly Trump', is a wonderful use of the font Gorey.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/gallery/2016/nov/02/a-z-of-trump-26-illustrators-picture-a-ghastly-future-in-pictures?utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=GU+Today+main+NEW+H+categories&utm_term=197693&subid=7516316&CMP=EMCNEWEML6619I2

and Trevor Noah takes a post-puckerlip-tic take on the next US election...Determinator!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvhqTNzpmYo

BenWilson

Fri, 04 Nov 2016 09:50:56 +1300

Trumps chances have been rising rapidly in the final run in. It’s become scary close again. Yes, Clinton has the lead, but as far as I’m aware the probabilities that FiveThirtyEight assigns (currently putting it about 65:35 for Clinton) are true probabilities, to be interpreted as such. They’re essentially saying…

nzlemming

Mon, 31 Oct 2016 23:31:58 +1300

In his dreams...

Now that's a place you couldn't pay me to visit...

Rich of Observationz

Mon, 31 Oct 2016 17:05:54 +1300

In his dreams...

nzlemming

Mon, 31 Oct 2016 15:08:52 +1300

It’s here in force. Of course our very own whale thing and kiwiblog (and a few more

Farrar once told me that his main regret, when he did the White House tour, was that Karl Rove wasn't available for a meeting.

Rob Stowell

Mon, 31 Oct 2016 09:40:54 +1300

Increasingly the sort of aggressive, paranoid style of the US right pops up here as well.

It’s here in force. Of course our very own whale thing and kiwiblog (and a few more …) run the same engines. Propaganda/agit-prop with different flavours for different tastes (‘pretending to be calm and…

andin

Sun, 30 Oct 2016 10:35:31 +1300

aggressive, paranoid

Group think rears its ugly head

Tom Semmens

Sat, 29 Oct 2016 18:37:07 +1300

What I find interesting about this whole schemozzle is the number of Trump supporters infesting New Zealand based web forums,

I think we under-estimate the influence of alt-right US based online media here on our NZ right wing. Increasingly the sort of aggressive, paranoid style of the US right pops…

Ian Dalziel

Fri, 28 Oct 2016 08:14:36 +1300

If the next Edwin Walker is out there, surely Trump would be the one to embolden him.
Scratch that itch and we get a Lee Harvey Oswald as well...

Joe Wylie

Fri, 28 Oct 2016 01:01:34 +1300

'all serving members must remember that the armed forces are politically neutral'.

If the next Edwin Walker is out there, surely Trump would be the one to embolden him.

Rich Lock

Thu, 27 Oct 2016 23:32:13 +1300

So this is....interesting.

The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff posts an open letter essentially saying 'all serving members must remember that the armed forces are politically neutral'. Is this a normal pre-election reminder? Because there are some interesting implications to be read into that, if this is…

nzlemming

Wed, 26 Oct 2016 17:38:08 +1300

Time to point you at Rich Hall’s US Election Breakdown.
Available to stream and as MP3 download until Nov 18.

Excellent! Thanks

Rob Stowell

Wed, 26 Oct 2016 11:50:01 +1300

Yeah. Misogyny is definitely a deep strand. The double standards are right there in your face.
But there's definitely more to it. I reckon it's misogyny plus ... a combination of 20+ years of GOP dirt-digging and Oppo research, throwing so many tonnes of mud, some has stuck, and some…

linger

Wed, 26 Oct 2016 10:36:18 +1300

Time to point you at Rich Hall’s US Election Breakdown.
Available to stream and as MP3 download until Nov 18.

Hilary Stace

Wed, 26 Oct 2016 10:17:27 +1300

Fuelled by some very deep misogynism.

Rob Stowell

Tue, 25 Oct 2016 17:53:57 +1300

What I find interesting about this whole schemozzle is the number of Trump supporters infesting New Zealand based web forums, bombarding them with strange pictures of Clinton, and spreading the latest “facts” from project veritas.
It's all very strange – and even stranger to consider these anti-Clinton stories emerge from…

John Farrell

Tue, 25 Oct 2016 17:07:55 +1300

The Daily Mail copies project veritas:

http://m.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11735329

andin

Tue, 25 Oct 2016 14:12:12 +1300

Worth a look.

Prophetic indeed!
ignorance is not bliss

John Farrell

Tue, 25 Oct 2016 13:48:18 +1300

What I find interesting about this whole schemozzle is the number of Trump supporters infesting New Zealand based web forums, bombarding them with strange pictures of Clinton, and spreading the latest "facts" from project veritas. They don't seem to realise that, to Trump, they are unwanted aliens.

nzlemming

Tue, 25 Oct 2016 10:33:22 +1300

Nate Silver's 538 has Clinton at 85% to win, with 325.4 electoral college seats to Trump's 211.8

Even if he wins the 3 "battleground states" – Ohio, Indiana* and North Carolina – he can't get enough seats to win. Still, it ain't over till it's over.

EDIT: Iowa, not Indiana…

Sacha

Fri, 21 Oct 2016 20:37:37 +1300

His team of spinners are now desperately un-pissing

or resigning

nzlemming

Fri, 21 Oct 2016 17:13:25 +1300

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/perils-of-eroded-civic-knowledge-forewarned-790540867791?cid=sm_fb_maddow

Worth a look.

Rich Lock

Thu, 20 Oct 2016 22:13:13 +1300

He is a creature that the Republicans brought into being with their racist and evangelical dog whistling and have only themselves to blame for what has been a hostile takeover by an outsider.

Yes. I have been thinking a lot on the story of Frankenstein's monster recently, although he was…

Rob S

Thu, 20 Oct 2016 21:58:39 +1300

Trump is a Democrat plant intent on stealing the election from the Republicans.

I can't buy that idea.

Trump entered the field of his own volition with a turbo-charged version of the message that the Repubs have been priming their base with..

He got lucky with that but now things…

Logan O'Callahan

Thu, 20 Oct 2016 20:14:22 +1300

There's only conspiracy theory that won't fly with his supporters, and it's the one most supported by recent events:

Trump is a Democrat plant intent on stealing the election from the Republicans.

Tom Semmens

Thu, 20 Oct 2016 17:45:32 +1300

Whereas those who paid attention realize that none of the traditional point-scoring matters a jot. Because one candidate just pissed on the election itself.

Pretty much. Tomorrow isn't going to be about how the judges scored it, or the latest "sensational" anti-Clinton video. Tomorrow's headlines are going to be about…

simon g

Thu, 20 Oct 2016 17:21:53 +1300

The media reaction to this last debate is divided, not into "his v hers", Reps v Dems, but between those who get what just happened, and those who don't.

The latter are dullards still on auto-pilot, declaring who won which section and overall, as if it were just another debate.…

Kumara Republic

Thu, 20 Oct 2016 16:49:53 +1300

Trump's campaign manager Kellyanne Conway really outdid herself yesterday when she told MSNBC that the orange slug has "a 5-point plan to defeat Islam".

Taking a wild guess:

1) Divide (& rule)
2) Dehumanise
3) Divert (attention from scrutiny)
4) Deploy (armed mobs)
5) Deny

Alfie

Thu, 20 Oct 2016 12:44:28 +1300

Trump's campaign manager Kellyanne Conway really outdid herself yesterday when she told MSNBC that the orange slug has "a 5-point plan to defeat Islam".

Alfie

Thu, 20 Oct 2016 12:14:34 +1300

For this debate the Trump sideshow will feature Malik Obama, The current President's estranged half-brother. The Washington Post has a profile of Malik which begins...

Malik Obama is exactly the kind of man that Donald Trump says he'd like to keep out of the United States. He's a Muslim. He…

Ian Dalziel

Thu, 20 Oct 2016 07:15:55 +1300

Fear and Low-thing in Las Vegas this afternoon...
...what a bill!

BenWilson

Wed, 19 Oct 2016 23:27:48 +1300

I really don't think anywhere in the developed world has any kind of chops for actual insurrection. As tooled up as nutty Americans may be, their various forces are like a thousand times more tooled up. We are talking about a country that rains death from the skies all around…

Kumara Republic

Wed, 19 Oct 2016 23:26:39 +1300

Snopes looks at O’Keefe’s four 2016 videos and does a great job of explaining why no media organisation goes near them. He’s a lying, unethical scumbag, basically.

To be very, very charitable, O'Keefe makes Lynton Crosby and Karl Rove look like Seymour Hersh.

Kumara Republic

Wed, 19 Oct 2016 22:56:20 +1300

The 1860 US presidential campaign featured a fractured Democratic party, a huge and antagonistic sectarian divide, paramilitary groups parading around in support of their party, lots of shots fired at political rallys, all sorts of political violence in local elections, and the main losing Democratic candidate going on to be…

linger

Wed, 19 Oct 2016 22:19:52 +1300

Win2003 server software pre-dates the birth of Trump’s son by a good three yearsAdmittedly, that serial user of women is always going to have children younger than [some recent software platform]...

Rich Lock

Wed, 19 Oct 2016 21:18:18 +1300

wild milita groups and crazy individuals might carry out random lynchings and attacks, but Clinton will have full control of and loyalty from the US military and governing apparatus at federal and state level. Nothing like succession, and therefore civil war, will come from this election.

I'd generally agree with…

Alfie

Wed, 19 Oct 2016 20:12:40 +1300

Remember Trump speaking about cyber-security during the first Presidential debate? His earlier comments about "the cyber" made it clear that Trump's knowledge of cyber-crime was as well-informed as his knowledge of... well, just about anything. Luckily for the free world, Trump has an expert on hand... his son Barron.

So…

andin

Wed, 19 Oct 2016 17:55:57 +1300

lying, unethical scumbag,

OH America how the mighty have fallen...
Making a country great again?
This isnt the way to do it

Russell Brown

Wed, 19 Oct 2016 15:55:09 +1300

I can’t find that on any ‘reputable’ web site. So far all I have found comes from James O’Keefe himself. There is a comment that Fox News reported it but there is nothing about it on their web site.

Snopes looks at O’Keefe’s four 2016 videos and does a great job…

Alfie

Wed, 19 Oct 2016 15:36:47 +1300

Anyone else followed the gruesome descent into Trumpism of the once normal Colonial Viper over at the The Standard?

I don't spend much time at The Standard Tom, mainly because they have so many active trolls on the site. So I wouldn't say I've followed the descent. I'd always assumed…

Ian Dalziel

Wed, 19 Oct 2016 13:56:25 +1300

One user wrote: "Trump tried to kiss a little girl at his rally tonight and she isn't having it."
After spotting the girl in the audience, Trump said: "By the way, that is the most beautiful little girl."
Inviting her on stage he asked: "Hi, do you want to come…

Tom Semmens

Wed, 19 Oct 2016 12:30:44 +1300

Anyone else followed the gruesome descent into Trumpism of the once normal Colonial Viper over at the The Standard? It is fascinating from a forensic viewpoint, because he is a textbook example in our own online community of how an aggreived person with an issue with "the establishment" can be…

Tom Semmens

Wed, 19 Oct 2016 12:25:24 +1300

Dinah Dunavan

Wed, 19 Oct 2016 11:34:51 +1300

Scott Foval, the Dem contractor named, has in fact resigned
I can't find that on any 'reputable' web site. So far all I have found comes from James O'Keefe himself. There is a comment that Fox News reported it but there is nothing about it on their web site.

Rich Lock

Wed, 19 Oct 2016 04:59:14 +1300

right-wing campaigns are overwhelmingly likely to use the tactics of junk email scams.....

...because they know they work with their voter base?

linger

Wed, 19 Oct 2016 00:57:48 +1300

A more accurate characterisation of that article is that right-wing campaigns are overwhelmingly likely to use the tactics of junk email scams: they're morally bankrupt, and they're aware of that, and they're counting on voters to be stupid.

Rich Lock

Tue, 18 Oct 2016 23:25:02 +1300

So here's an interesting story:

https://medium.com/@malki/in-february-i-subscribed-to-all-the-presidential-candidates-email-lists-d9b10ca77b4d#.7q5jnw50z

A strong correlation between the sort of people who fall for junk e-mail scams, and hard-right voters. Who'da guessed?

Russell Brown

Tue, 18 Oct 2016 23:16:54 +1300

Another story by the Frank Chung of news.com.au. Only faker than the last one.

UPDATE: Okay, although this looks like the fake story from the fake ABC site, it's different and based on some sort of facts. Scott Foval, the Dem contractor named, has in fact resigned.

Why haven't most…

Dinah Dunavan

Tue, 18 Oct 2016 22:57:23 +1300

The Herald has foolishly posted a story that seems to be sourced from fake news site ABCNEWS.com.co The clue being the .co after .com
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11731356
A very brief bit of Google work found this out so it’s not that the writer, or the Herald, couldn’t fact check this story.

Rob S

Tue, 18 Oct 2016 20:30:46 +1300

I seem to recall an analysis of America by some Russian think tank or other that suggested that the US had a good chance of having a civil war.
Is Trump's delegitimising of the electoral process what they had in mind?
Ironic really with the well known propensity of the…

Alfie

Tue, 18 Oct 2016 12:14:23 +1300

With the shackles off, Trump's paranoia is being given free reign. While he's accusing the FBI, Justice and State Departments of 'colluding' with Clinton, Melania Trump says her husband's pussy grabbing comments don't fairly reflect the man he is. In fact, it was all Billy Bush's fault.
... he was…

Ian Dalziel

Tue, 18 Oct 2016 06:57:22 +1300

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/what-if-hillary-clinton-groped-men-is-there-a-double-standard-20161016-gs3qq5.html

Alfie

Mon, 17 Oct 2016 17:09:47 +1300

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZnlz-b2NnY

Donald Trump sings Mahna Mahna
via BoingBoing

Rich Lock

Mon, 17 Oct 2016 11:36:23 +1300

Is there a "Bat-shit crazy, whack-bar things Donald Trump is likely to say before election day" bingo card on the internet yet ?

I'm not entirely sure you could put anything on it that he hasn't already saidor done, unless you want to add a 'literally starts masturbating on stage'…

Grant McDougall

Mon, 17 Oct 2016 09:55:20 +1300

Is there a "Bat-shit crazy, whack-bar things Donald Trump is likely to say before election day" bingo card on the internet yet ?

kw

Sun, 16 Oct 2016 10:27:20 +1300

Stuff today turns out Donald wantstesting.

He wants to know 'what's going on with her' – maybe having this hulking guy creeping round behind her and making faces and doing everything short of bunny ears is part of it.

He needs to do something about the lip licking too. It's…

Ian Dalziel

Sat, 15 Oct 2016 13:18:42 +1300

Private Eye nails it.
All's Fairey in love and politics...

Alfie

Sat, 15 Oct 2016 12:14:33 +1300

Private Eye nails it.

Ian Dalziel

Sat, 15 Oct 2016 11:43:05 +1300

high on cocaine a lot of the time...
Surely there is mandatory drug testing for contestants for the upper echelons of the greatest sport of all – Politics!

the US could do worse than elect Michelle Obama in 2020
Seconded!
– Even if she really is a bloke with kidnapped…

BenWilson

Sat, 15 Oct 2016 09:02:30 +1300

The fact that Clinton has not trounced Trump suggests that the dynastic period we're in is not really that good for American politics.

However, maybe Clinton will be a good president even if she's not really that great a campaigner. I expect we will see.

Tom Semmens

Sat, 15 Oct 2016 08:51:46 +1300

This morning I took the trouble to watch all 46 minutes of Trump's latest frightening, rambling rant at West Palm Beach.

Trump, rather than tacking to the centre, seems to have tacked harder to the fringe as the campaign has gone on. To me, it speaks of a man of…

BenWilson

Fri, 14 Oct 2016 13:59:32 +1300

Could still win – there’ll be a lot of voters who won’t admit to a pollster they support him.

It’s an outside shot now, though. His only real shot is something extremely damaging coming out about Clinton. But which one is going to be more widely believed: Wikileaks or a…

David Hood

Fri, 14 Oct 2016 11:39:38 +1300

Could still win – there’ll be a lot of voters who won’t admit to a pollster they support him.

And a possible reverse effect among conservative leaning women, who would not publicly admit supporting Clinton

Alfie

Fri, 14 Oct 2016 11:32:12 +1300

Trump doesn’t seem that far behind on average (is this site real?).

Some of the polls are still lagging behind Trump's meltdown following the "hot mic" incident. This HuffPost report gives Hillary Clinton an 90.7 percent chance of winning.

The graphic above shows weekend polling in the battleground state of…

Rich of Observationz

Fri, 14 Oct 2016 11:00:28 +1300

Trump doesn't seem that far behind on average (is this site real?).

Could still win – there'll be a lot of voters who won't admit to a pollster they support him.

Alfie

Fri, 14 Oct 2016 10:56:54 +1300

…and his athletic supporters – who also have some pedigree…

Abbott was responding to a motion proposed in the NSW parliament by Green MP Jeremy Buckingham, which passed unanimously. Here's the Hansard text.

That this House:

(a) condemns the misogynistic, hateful comments made by the Republican candidate for President of…

Ian Dalziel

Fri, 14 Oct 2016 10:46:36 +1300

aghast in the machine…
The whole Trump phenomenon does seem to strengthen the case for ‘reality’ being a simulation…
(Elon) Musk is just one of the people in Silicon Valley to take a keen interest in the “simulation hypothesis”, which argues that what we experience as reality is actually a giant…

Ian Dalziel

Fri, 14 Oct 2016 10:28:12 +1300

What a vile human being.
...and his athletic supporters – who also have some pedigree...

Alfie

Fri, 14 Oct 2016 09:52:39 +1300

The HuffPost details another incident at a restaurant involving Trump, his friend and modeling agent John Casablancas, and a group of aspiring models.

According to Boyne, the group was seated at a semi-circular table, with the women in the middle and Trump and Casablancas flanking either end. The women couldn’t…

Alfie

Fri, 14 Oct 2016 08:41:26 +1300

Trump appears to be in meltdown mode.

Another woman has come forward and accused him of abuse. Natasha Stoynoff, a former writer for People magazine went to Trump’s home in 2005 to interview he and Melania on their first wedding anniversary. She claims that Trump took her to another part…

Logan O'Callahan

Thu, 13 Oct 2016 20:54:52 +1300

It's like watching a car crash in slow motion.

His only response seems to be doubling down.

"I might be bad, but her husband is much worse".

There's 4 more weeks.. Where will it be by the end?

It's almost impossible to comment on, there is so much you could…

Alfie

Thu, 13 Oct 2016 15:19:22 +1300

During the second debate Trump was asked if he had ever groped or sexually assaulted women, as caught on the hot mic. He said, 'No'.

You'll never guess what happened next...

And the Wall Street Journal discusses the damage Trump has done to his brand.

Gee

Thu, 13 Oct 2016 09:55:19 +1300

This wasn’t “locker room talk”, but descriptions of sexual assault that he had done and planned to continue committing. It’s criminal behaviour.

Ian Dalziel

Thu, 13 Oct 2016 09:09:51 +1300

With his shackles off, Trump is now free...
Even his own allusion to his 'slavery' is offensive!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFkmRp_G2uo

Alfie

Thu, 13 Oct 2016 08:57:03 +1300

With his shackles off, Trump is now free to make up anything he likes. Here’s a classic Trumpism from this morning.

"Isis will take over the United States if Hillary Clinton is elected president."

Oh, please. Even Trump’s most ardent arm-dragging fanboys would have trouble believing that one. Surely?

Meanwhile…

Ian Dalziel

Thu, 13 Oct 2016 07:01:38 +1300

Trump's 'asterickroll'...
I note a twitter video report of Trump urging his fans to vote on November 28th!
(or risk becoming just an 'asterick' in history)
His approach is true huckster style (and Rickster) – this is your last and only chance, don't miss out, step right up – with…

Rich Lock

Wed, 12 Oct 2016 22:01:09 +1300

I personally find it really troubling that I can't bend my mind far enough to begin to understand how some people view the world.

Edit: individuals and outliers don't really bother me, but millions of people.....It's the kind of train of thought that if you ride it too far ends…

Rich Lock

Wed, 12 Oct 2016 21:32:36 +1300

A Facebook friend has other FB friends who are conservative Americans....an imaginary narrative that millions of people now live within

It's a trip through the rabbit hole alright. I've seen one or two since the last debate where the response to Trump's 'she'd be in jail' bluster was all along…

linger

Wed, 12 Oct 2016 18:43:00 +1300

None of this should be treated as entertainment
(he says, not quite resisting the urge to make the obvious joke
about really not wanting to know about Trump's position)

BenWilson

Wed, 12 Oct 2016 18:07:55 +1300

October surprise!

No!

nzlemming

Wed, 12 Oct 2016 17:58:20 +1300

October surprise!

Where's my popcorn?

nzlemming

Wed, 12 Oct 2016 17:51:36 +1300

Can one even work out Trump's position on anything?

It didn't pass the sniff test.

BenWilson

Wed, 12 Oct 2016 17:45:17 +1300

Can one even work out Trump's position on anything? It sounded in the last debate like he was making up military policy on the fly. Couldn't we have, like, a secret war against the Russians in Libya, or something? Shouldn't Clinton, as Secretary of State, have already done that!!

Alfie

Wed, 12 Oct 2016 16:03:00 +1300

While numerous high profile Republicans are backing away from the Trump train wreck, Paul Krugman points out in the NY Times that Republicans in safe seats are staying noticeably quiet on the matter.

Krugman suggests that recent moves to disassociate Trump from the GOP are only damage limitation, and that…

nzlemming

Wed, 12 Oct 2016 15:01:23 +1300

Someone on my FB was touting Clinton as "more hawkish than Trump". My response:
When people talk about Clinton being more hawkish than Trump (scusi but who was it wants to use nukes?) and a warmonger, because the US was at war for the 4 years while she was Secretary…

Russell Brown

Wed, 12 Oct 2016 08:50:27 +1300

A Facebook friend has other FB friends who are conservative Americans.

Wondering what could lead one of them to say the things she did in a discussion under one of his posts, I clicked through to her Facebook page. It was a click through the rabbit hole.

There was cheerleading…

andin

Wed, 12 Oct 2016 06:01:47 +1300

High-Level Sources
I guess they must mean god, or the voice they hear in their head.

OK I' m not mocking 'cause that is the source of a lot of delusional behaviour when it gets out of control.
When anyone thinks they have some insight denied to the rest of…

Rich Lock

Tue, 11 Oct 2016 20:57:48 +1300

I've certainly heard worse.

There's a world of difference between an unrestrained 'I'd like to...', and 'Hey, this is what I actually do, because I can...'

Alfie

Tue, 11 Oct 2016 15:57:39 +1300

Chris Kluwe from the Oakland Raiders – Dear Donald Trump: I played in the NFL. Here’s what we really talk about in the locker room.

Ian Dalziel

Tue, 11 Oct 2016 14:36:01 +1300

Mr Snuffleupagus ?
Trump's performance wasn't to be sniffed at – or was it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9suHrzvFCWY
He does sound a bit like some lip-smacking reptile...
or is he a bloodhound dog...

Rich of Observationz

Tue, 11 Oct 2016 14:14:10 +1300

Surely you need *low* level sources to detect demons?

Alfie

Tue, 11 Oct 2016 14:13:22 +1300

The world's media seems to be overflowing with commentary on Trump. His debate performance, the creepy way he stalked Hillary around the stage, his groping of women and the utter revulsion which hangs around him like a stench. He is a repulsive and disgusting human being.

I enjoyed NY Times…

Ian Dalziel

Tue, 11 Oct 2016 13:06:06 +1300

Trump Ally Alex Jones: High-Level Sources Confirmed That Clinton, Obama Are Demons
NOT satire.
Sulfur the little children to come unto me...

nzlemming

Tue, 11 Oct 2016 12:54:25 +1300

In more past-24-hours madness:

Trump Ally Alex Jones: High-Level Sources Confirmed That Clinton, Obama Are Demons

NOT satire.

Ah Alex, I've missed you. But my aim is getting better.

Russell Brown

Tue, 11 Oct 2016 12:29:16 +1300

Warren Buffett responds comprehensively to Trump's attempt to deflect criticism of his tax affairs by claiming all rich guys do it.

BenWilson

Tue, 11 Oct 2016 11:58:09 +1300

Democratses are wicked, tricksy and false!

Russell Brown

Tue, 11 Oct 2016 11:53:36 +1300

Foreign Policy magazine makes its first ever US Presidential endorsement – for Clinton, of course.

In the nearly half-century history of Foreign Policy, the editors of this publication have never endorsed a candidate for political office. We cherish and fiercely protect this publication’s independence and its reputation for objectivity, and…

Russell Brown

Tue, 11 Oct 2016 11:51:15 +1300

From NBC:

During Sunday's debate, Donald Trump once again said he doesn't know whether Russia is trying to hack the U.S. election, despite Friday's statement by the U.S. intelligence community pointing the finger at Putin — and despite the fact that Trump was personally briefed on Russia's role in the…

Russell Brown

Tue, 11 Oct 2016 11:50:00 +1300

In more past-24-hours madness:

Trump Ally Alex Jones: High-Level Sources Confirmed That Clinton, Obama Are Demons

NOT satire.

Russell Brown

Tue, 11 Oct 2016 11:47:02 +1300

Samantha's Bee's show has basically replicated the Daily Show vox-pops in the original post, only more cleverly:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Op9Bkpeu4s

The ease with which these people can be tied up in knots over their own stupid beliefs is really telling.

BenWilson

Tue, 11 Oct 2016 10:49:57 +1300

Trump’s comments are several thousand kilometers over ‘the line’.

Well, for anyone running for public office, anyway. I've certainly heard worse. But really, the line that Trump isn't as bad as ISIS is a bit of a low bar for probably the most important single office that can be held…

Ian Dalziel

Tue, 11 Oct 2016 09:20:15 +1300

trumped up...
I see lots of comments about Trump saying 'he is beyond the pale' – and he is most definitely outside the palisade and beyond the grounds of common decency now.

Seems to me he is also now the pale rider on his own pale horse (he has the…

linger

Mon, 10 Oct 2016 22:29:13 +1300

Come to think of it, the only other “banter” excuse I’ve heard trotted out by politicians in recent years concerned Mr. “Grab ’em by the ponytail”.
(Ah, yep, that's what you linked to.)

Ian Dalziel

Mon, 10 Oct 2016 21:09:55 +1300

I guess Paddy Gower's 'bromance' with the Trump boys is over...
Trump was interviewed by TV3 (now Newshub) while visiting New Zealand in 1993 as part of a consortium bidding for a casino operator's licence. In the interview, Trump was asked about his image as a womanising tycoon.
Trump said:…

Rich Lock

Mon, 10 Oct 2016 21:08:55 +1300

Folks are right, this is how a lot of men brag to each other in private.

I have been a man amongst men for several decades, and I've heard my fair share of locker room blue talk. Trump's comments are several thousand kilometers over 'the line'.

BenWilson

Mon, 10 Oct 2016 19:35:50 +1300

Everyone knows it's the party of the rich, but in the past they've tried to avoid having actual clowns holding the top job. OK they dropped the ball with Dubya, but he did at least play the game of being president, acting presidentially to the limit of his abilities. But…

BenWilson

Mon, 10 Oct 2016 19:26:59 +1300

Playboy cover 1990

I remember reading that one for the article about Trump. It was really deep.

Ian Dalziel

Mon, 10 Oct 2016 19:03:27 +1300

for the love of mike…
At the end of the footage, the other guy asks for it back…
‘The other guy’ being Billy Bush, cousin of George W. Bush, maybe its a Republican thing…
Bush sure seemed to be enabling and encouraging Trump, down to getting the actress to give…

Rich of Observationz

Mon, 10 Oct 2016 17:12:48 +1300

How it came down to this clown being the best the Republicans have to offer is just an indictment on their party

It's more that, for the second half of the twentieth century, the middle-class American worker did very well – they had job security, could afford a reasonable house…

BenWilson

Mon, 10 Oct 2016 15:42:45 +1300

Wow that was so horrible I'll have to watch the finale.

BenWilson

Mon, 10 Oct 2016 12:36:02 +1300

Secretly recorded locker room banter from ten years ago should not be dragged up to attack someone.

Um, Trump was actually wearing the microphone. At the end of the footage, the other guy asks for it back, says the interview is over. Trump was saying all that stuff with a…

linger

Mon, 10 Oct 2016 12:18:35 +1300

Nah, it’s all of a piece with his campaign.
Live by the bullshit, die by the bullshit.
(Generously assuming that this too is bullshit,
and not an honest expression of his belief.)
The past few months seem to have demonstrated that bullshit, utterly unconstrained by reality, can't be beaten by…

Tom Semmens

Mon, 10 Oct 2016 12:08:17 +1300

Karma is a bitch and all that, but I have a tiny bit of sympathy for Trump on this issue. Secretly recorded locker room banter from ten years ago should not be dragged up to attack someone. Folks are right, this is how a lot of men brag to each…

BenWilson

Mon, 10 Oct 2016 10:50:23 +1300

The Apprentice out-takes are holding out for top dollar, I'll bet.

I feel compelled to watch the debate this arvo, if only to see if the whole thing descends into a shit fight about who is more morally reprehensible, an ex-president, or the presidential nominee. This presidential election had already…

Alfie

Mon, 10 Oct 2016 10:38:11 +1300

Is America ready for a President who believes his fame allows him to "grab pussy" and molest women at will? As evidence of Trump's unsuitability to be president continues to mount and top Republicans queue up to distance themselves from his increasingly disturbing behaviour, you have to question the post-reality…

Ian Dalziel

Sat, 08 Oct 2016 12:04:17 +1300

It’s obvious that the religious right in America are happy to betray one of these things to retain their grasp on the other.
They desperately need an AntiChrist figure to trigger their 'final days scenarios' – if it's petrol you want for fuelling a conflagration, Trump will do just fine...

Alfie

Sat, 08 Oct 2016 11:53:35 +1300

Look this guy is an insult to humanity, we have lost our way when he became a possible candidate for POTUS.

The Washington Post is running yet another gross Trump story showing his attitude towards women. Trump maintains that when you’re famous like him, you can do anything you like…

andin

Fri, 07 Oct 2016 16:36:52 +1300

Every insult

Look this guy is an insult to humanity, we have lost our way when he became a possible candidate for POTUS.
What if he wins? Will there be any soul searching in the US. Sure but by the wrong people i.e. not those who elected him.
When I…

Alfie

Fri, 07 Oct 2016 11:39:37 +1300

The New York Times has published an interactive… The 273 People, Places and Things Donald Trump Has Insulted on Twitter: A Complete List – since declaring his candidacy in June. Every insult is linked to the source.

In their annual ranking of America’s richest people, Forbes informs us that [[http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/donald-trump-800000-wiped-off-value-forbes-2016-richest-americans-list-a7345496.html#gallery|Donald…

Tom Johnson

Fri, 07 Oct 2016 00:02:45 +1300

I do agree, it would of been a good strategy to destroy such a bigoted man, they went for Trumps record , a pitiful garbage of nonsense and bluster and lies. Setting HC up but yeh that guy is a disgrace.

Craig Ranapia

Thu, 06 Oct 2016 23:52:59 +1300

But Kaine made the classic politician’s mistake of thinking “People will only know the truth if I tell it, I need to speak more”.

On Full Frontal tonight, I think Samatha Bee made an excellent point: Kaine spent way too much time reminding us all what we already know about…

Tom Johnson

Thu, 06 Oct 2016 21:20:15 +1300

Absolutely the strategy. Joe Biden slammed Ryan with interruptions but they were just quick slick factual rebutals, but Joe Biden is a fantastic debater. Kaine got a lot of wtf moments that will be played out on news and social media for a while, still if Kaine didn't win that…

Rob S

Thu, 06 Oct 2016 20:57:26 +1300

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76qRVEXJoF4

I think Kaine got what Hillary's comms team wanted. He probably did come on too strong as an attack dog but hey, it's only the VP's debate.
They've turned Pence into a liar with his own words and dig at Trump at the same time.
To me this looks…

Tom Johnson

Thu, 06 Oct 2016 16:33:08 +1300

He is very bad at debating. Never really had to.

BenWilson

Thu, 06 Oct 2016 16:29:25 +1300

Much better to do what Clinton did to Trump – let your opponent dig the hole, let the soundbites stand.

Generally this is not a strategy that works. But with Trump, it seems to. Which makes sense. Because his rise is an inversion of standard political wisdom, his fall probably…

Tom Johnson

Thu, 06 Oct 2016 15:45:29 +1300

Pence on abortion was chilling. To think what that man wants society to look like. Everyday he finds time to go down on his knees. He said that. Devout, by the book of god.

Tom Johnson

Thu, 06 Oct 2016 15:37:18 +1300

Well he did push Pence to talk to the record of his candidate and Pence just shrugged his shoulders and drifted away from the question. We will have to agree to disagree but I totally agree with your assessment of the us voter, still it doesn’t mean debate can’t be…

simon g

Thu, 06 Oct 2016 15:07:36 +1300

The moderator was weak, which didn’t help. But Kaine made the classic politician’s mistake of thinking “People will only know the truth if I tell it, I need to speak more”. Which means interrupting the lie before it has got through to the public.

Much better to do what Clinton…

Tom Johnson

Thu, 06 Oct 2016 14:58:43 +1300

Well on facts, Kaine won . I understand but I think its time to rethink the conditions in which debate takes place. Kaine just came across as a smart liberal thinker, which seems to be a thing to hide these days, Romney got hauled up on an Obama lie in…

simon g

Thu, 06 Oct 2016 14:55:19 +1300

I watched the whole debate (God help me) and clearly Pence did win ... but he won against Trump. Republicans who want a conservative must have been torn between hope and despair: hope that they can recover after Trump, despair that they ended up with him.

The real Republican battle…

Tom Johnson

Thu, 06 Oct 2016 14:52:21 +1300

That's why they suck. It's not a fun uni debate. This should be moderated to hell and candidates should be given something more dignified than standing by a rectangle, the moderator should know before hand what the candidates records are, save a lot of bullshit. Elegant headwaving and a slow…

BenWilson

Thu, 06 Oct 2016 13:27:42 +1300

I thought debates were about substance not looking unruffled in the face of intellectual defeat.

Substance probably counts for a good solid 10%. :-)

Tom Johnson

Thu, 06 Oct 2016 12:57:19 +1300

I listened and thought Kaine did really well. Pence took offence at trying to defend Trump, which was absurd ,but because he had nice hair and didn’t look too aggressive he gets kudos, fuck the fact that most of what he said was complete wacko bullshit. I thought debates were…

BenWilson

Thu, 06 Oct 2016 12:03:47 +1300

However they dice it, this is slipping through their fingers, since the candidate's debate. I've been watching Fivethirtyeight's poll of polls and that steep decline from a 44% chance of winning to a current 24% chance for Trump getting it has all been since his bumbling performance. That's not as…

Alfie

Thu, 06 Oct 2016 11:25:43 +1300

The Republic Party wasted no time in declaring their man Pence the winner of yesterday's VP debate.
The article read: "The consensus was clear after the dust settled, Mike Pence was the clear winner of yesterday's the debate."
A second post portrayed Hillary as the loser. Another post pointed out…

Craig Ranapia

Thu, 06 Oct 2016 09:12:08 +1300

So you only read it for the articles…?

I certainly don't buy it for the pictures, because when even a confirmed bachelor like me can tell no woman's body looks like that outside Photoshop? Ick...

Rich Lock

Thu, 06 Oct 2016 01:07:11 +1300

Conde Nast would have pink-slipped Carter years ago (and shut the magazine down) if there wasn’t a market niche for people who want high society sleaze, celebrity puff pieces and grotesque crime but wouldn’t be caught dead buying a gossip rag in a convenience store. And yes, dear reader, I’m…

nzlemming

Wed, 05 Oct 2016 22:12:19 +1300

And it's a pretty tacky excuse for a tux he's wearing badly as well.

Craig Ranapia

Wed, 05 Oct 2016 18:28:33 +1300

Graydon Carter, the editor of Vanity Fair, isn’t holding back when expressing his opinion of Donald Trump.

With all due disrespect, the editor of Vanity Fair sneering at Donald Trump as a tacky “carny act” who “lives off crowd approval” is an irony too far. Conde Nast would have pink-slipped…

Ian Dalziel

Wed, 05 Oct 2016 12:26:25 +1300

... will leave the path with a permanent orange stain.
Navel grazing?
;- )

Alfie

Wed, 05 Oct 2016 12:23:10 +1300

Graydon Carter, the editor of Vanity Fair, isn't holding back when expressing his opinion of Donald Trump.

He is a mad jumble of a man, with a slapdash of a campaign and talking points dredged from the dark corners at the bottom of the Internet. I don’t think he will…

Ian Dalziel

Wed, 05 Oct 2016 08:26:24 +1300

The Kool-aid stand opens at 3am…
to find out how far
(from what used to be regarded as sane)
some have wandered
Looks like a ’Cargo Cult’ may have bedded in as well…
Over the course of two hours on Tuesday – with the world’s media and bleary-eyed Trump diehards…

andin

Wed, 05 Oct 2016 06:38:27 +1300

On Nov 8 we
not in the US
get to find out how far
(from what used to be regarded as sane)
some have wandered

Ian Dalziel

Tue, 04 Oct 2016 21:18:25 +1300

They reap as they have sown
...and surely Fox TV must be a crime against humanity (and sanity).

Rich Lock

Tue, 04 Oct 2016 21:01:30 +1300

Is this misogynistic, lying fraud really the best candidate the Republicans can come up with the fill the role of president?

You saw the other candidates, though? Ben Carson, Ted Cruz....

The Republicans have been brewing this self-inflicted crisis for a good few years. They reap as they have sown.

Alfie

Tue, 04 Oct 2016 19:52:42 +1300

Trump responds to criticism of his tax position, suggesting he'll become a better person when he's wearing the presidential hat.
“The unfairness in the tax laws is unbelievable,” he told an evening rally in Loveland, Colorado, following suggestions he could have escaped paying taxes for nearly two decades thanks to…

Ian Dalziel

Tue, 04 Oct 2016 18:35:57 +1300

The terrible, frightening Trump is likely to win because so many possible Hillary voters can’t vote
Perhaps Obama could use one last Executive Order to ban future Executive Orders – just in case.

Rochelle Wilson

Tue, 04 Oct 2016 18:22:58 +1300

The terrible, frightening Trump is likely to win because so many possible Hillary voters can't vote: voter registration difficulties+++ for black Americans; boundary changes etc.
So many Republican Senators are every bit as determined to get elected/re-elected by whatever means as they are to support Trump's election..

Rob S

Tue, 04 Oct 2016 13:29:45 +1300

To a kiwi such as myself almost every Democrat looks Republican-lite.

The next President gets to forward nominations for the supreme court justices where one is currently pending and 1or 2 more are probable during the next term.
This is a big deal for a court selected by politicians that…

linger

Tue, 04 Oct 2016 12:34:09 +1300

Mae West notedBetween two evils, I always pick the one I never tried before.It's hard to look at the US election and not think they're taking that advice seriously.

linger

Tue, 04 Oct 2016 12:14:43 +1300

Having had the Democrats choose a Republican-lite candidate,
the Republicans don’t need to take the election seriously;
so, send in the clown…

More seriously, what we’re seeing is that many voters don’t trust the system, and so anyone who appears to be outside the system can gain support. Except there…

Alfie

Tue, 04 Oct 2016 10:34:44 +1300

While the fact that Trump probably doesn't pay any tax may have punctured the orange clown's campaign, now New York's attorney general has ordered Trump’s charitable foundation to suspend all fundraising immediately. The Trump foundation has been soliciting donations of more than $25,000 a year without being properly registered under…

andin

Mon, 03 Oct 2016 21:35:48 +1300

Lying to prop up a rotten system
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaD84DTGULo
Reminds me of our politicians johnkey especially

andin

Mon, 03 Oct 2016 15:53:40 +1300

There’s something wrong in conservative white America, there really is.

The incoherence of their belief systems, not only religious, is on display.
Its a sorry sight.

Ian Dalziel

Mon, 03 Oct 2016 13:53:57 +1300

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/84890639/as-news-of-trumps-taxes-breaks-he-goes-off-script-at-a-rally-in-pennsylvania

To be honest Trump sounds like he may have medication problems as well.
Donald Trump's campaign announced Saturday evening that the candidate would soon deliver a nine-sentence critique of comments Hillary Clinton made months ago about many of the millennials supporting her primary rival, Bernie Sanders. It was an…

Tom Semmens

Mon, 03 Oct 2016 12:35:33 +1300

but the chilling part is the pervasive alt-media environment that feeds this poor woman’s paranoid beliefs – and the candidate who embodies them. Literally millions of Americans believe the things she does – are they all mentally unwell?

Sure, there are plenty of sane, angry, radicialised Trump supporters. Which begs…

Alfie

Mon, 03 Oct 2016 11:07:40 +1300

Alec Baldwin channels Trump on Saturday Night Live.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2neyQA5TDo

Russell Brown

Mon, 03 Oct 2016 10:33:42 +1300

To do a hatchet job on Trump supporters via a mentally ill woman – Melanie clearly has mental health issues, having lost her job after allowing a train to run a red light in what was obviously some sort of pyschotic episode and she is on medication – should be…

Ian Dalziel

Mon, 03 Oct 2016 09:39:42 +1300

I wasn’t talking about you!
Phew!
But damn, I thought I'd finally found a hat that suited me...
;- )

Tom Semmens

Mon, 03 Oct 2016 08:44:13 +1300

I wasn't talking about you!

Ian Dalziel

Mon, 03 Oct 2016 08:39:59 +1300

smart arse middle classes.
Guilty as charged – but fair enough, your point is taken.

Tom Semmens

Mon, 03 Oct 2016 08:31:38 +1300

That Washington Post article picked up by Stuff is a disgrace to respectable journalism. To do a hatchet job on Trump supporters via a mentally ill woman – Melanie clearly has mental health issues, having lost her job after allowing a train to run a red light in what was…

Ian Dalziel

Mon, 03 Oct 2016 08:28:17 +1300

Saturday Night Live – Alec Baldwin nails Trump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2neyQA5TDo

Ian Dalziel

Mon, 03 Oct 2016 08:12:09 +1300

confederacy of dunces?
Like millions of others, she believed that President Barack Obama was a Muslim. And like so many she had gotten to know online through social media, she also believed that he was likely gay, that Michelle Obama could be a man, and that the Obama children were…

tussock

Sat, 01 Oct 2016 21:08:49 +1300

That editorial is quite heart-warming, Alfie.

Clinton is a presidential candidate; deliberate, serious, considered, and in a position to unite the country and make it stronger into a challenging future.

Trump is none of those things. Arizona's a long shot to swing Democrat, about 10% or so yet, but little…

Alfie

Sat, 01 Oct 2016 10:41:00 +1300

Trump has continued his attacks on former Miss Universe Alicia Machado. This time he’s issued a series of tweets between 3am – 5:30am, implying there is “a sex tape” involving Machado. Fact checkers say that’s a lie.

The Trump Foundation which he uses a a personal piggy bank was [[https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-foundation-lacks-the-certification-required-for-charities-that-solicit-money/2016/09/29/7dac6a68-8658-11e6-ac72-a29979381495_story.html|never…

nzlemming

Thu, 29 Sep 2016 19:20:50 +1300

Rachel Maddow (MSNBC) seems to have a mole in Newsweek's office, or else Newsweek has a really crap advance publicity strategy. This is the second week in a row that they have had a "small piece" of exclusive notice of the next day's cover story.

Whatever. Seems that Trump was…

Rich of Observationz

Thu, 29 Sep 2016 16:59:02 +1300

OMG, I think I invoked him...

nzlemming

Wed, 28 Sep 2016 15:44:14 +1300

why he thinks

See, that's your problem, right there. Never make assumptions that can't be proven.

Zach Bagnall

Wed, 28 Sep 2016 15:08:09 +1300

The tax thing stood out to me too. Immediately opens the door to questions of why he thinks not funding schools, roads, police etc is "smart"?

BenWilson

Wed, 28 Sep 2016 13:22:17 +1300

Nate Silver expects a gain for Clinton, but in his typically statistically caveated and nuanced way.

Rich of Observationz

Wed, 28 Sep 2016 10:29:37 +1300

Or it breaks up and the coastal states become normal medium sized countries while the flyover states descend into dystopia.

Alfie

Wed, 28 Sep 2016 10:06:09 +1300

Coolest MSM line so far...
She looked like she belonged on a banknote. He looked like he belonged in detention.
The same story refers to Trump as a "terracotta grifter".

Paul Campbell

Wed, 28 Sep 2016 09:47:27 +1300

Best tweet of last night: "Defective Mike" .... turns out that's his coke dealer

Ian Dalziel

Wed, 28 Sep 2016 08:30:26 +1300

whiners and losers...
Trump (the good loser that he isn't) has now started whining about his microphone being too low and not working properly – (maybe it was the mic sniffing, hah!) and that the moderator didn't ask Hillary Clinton questions he thought he should have – a bit rich…

Sacha

Wed, 28 Sep 2016 01:14:31 +1300

As pointless as the so called debate

A faithful reflection, yes. Yet so much of our global future depends on how these faraway folk vote.

andin

Wed, 28 Sep 2016 00:23:22 +1300

Text version.?
As pointless as the so called debate
I beginning to want Trump to win just so I can watch as the US slithers does the toilet bowl of life they had hand in creating

Sacha

Tue, 27 Sep 2016 23:38:06 +1300

I'll wait for the highlights clip.

Text version.

Paul Campbell

Tue, 27 Sep 2016 22:14:13 +1300

Trump sounded like what I imagine Leighton Smith would sound like after one too many visits to the sherry decanter. Or in Trump’s case, if the sniffles are any guide, one too many fat lines in the toilet cubicle before the debate…

you know that was probably a lot of…

Russell Brown

Tue, 27 Sep 2016 21:33:02 +1300

Watching the YouTube stream and wondering what that chat window really adds…a scrolling window of abuse, basically.

I watched the WaPo's YouTube stream. Straight up, no chat window. It was blissful.

Tom Semmens

Tue, 27 Sep 2016 18:07:49 +1300

Trump sounded like what I imagine Leighton Smith would sound like after one too many visits to the sherry decanter. Or in Trump's case, if the sniffles are any guide, one too many fat lines in the toilet cubicle before the debate...

BenWilson

Tue, 27 Sep 2016 17:43:27 +1300

Watching the YouTube stream and wondering what that chat window really adds...a scrolling window of abuse, basically.

nzlemming

Tue, 27 Sep 2016 17:27:58 +1300

I tried to watch the debate, but I just can't listen to the orange buffoon. I'll wait for the highlights clip.

Russell Brown

Tue, 27 Sep 2016 17:26:29 +1300

PPP’s post-debate phone poll has wide margins for Clinton among women, non-whites, young people, etc.

But white people thought Trump won 47-45. Factor in the wide margin among women in general and we come back to the stuff upthread about white men really, really hating Hillary Clinton.

nzlemming

Tue, 27 Sep 2016 17:00:58 +1300

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1Lfd1aB9YI
I'll just leave this here :-D

Rich of Observationz

Tue, 27 Sep 2016 16:40:35 +1300

Don Brash?

simon g

Tue, 27 Sep 2016 16:38:45 +1300

We've got so used to Trump's bluster that the jaw barely drops any more.

But to put it in perspective, and trying to be as detached and fair as I can, if that level of incoherent performance was produced by a 1% party in NZ (say, Peter Dunne or one…

nzlemming

Tue, 27 Sep 2016 16:37:18 +1300

he basically admitted he doesn't pay (and possibly has never paid, depending on how you parse it) Federal income tax: "That's because I'm smart."

Holy shit.

If he wasn't being audited before, he will be now...

Russell Brown

Tue, 27 Sep 2016 16:30:56 +1300

Well, that was weird but oddly watchable.

Trump was incoherent at times and actually lied even more than I thought he would – and doubled down on easily debunked lies.

Maybe that won't hurt him with his voters. But it may be that the thing that does is the truth…

Ian Dalziel

Tue, 27 Sep 2016 15:44:40 +1300

Clinton 1 / Trump 0
I think Trump managed to shoot himself in the foot he had firmly in mouth.
Whether it would sway his fanbase away is doubtful, but he sure didn't come across as someone trustworthy or honest, he brought his 'bully' to the debate. Clinton brilliantly…

Kumara Republic

Tue, 27 Sep 2016 13:57:59 +1300

The numbskull Trump voter who wrote this dreck on Stuff today should probably know that when he's muttering darkly about the Clinton Foundation, he's 180 degrees off.

Not that he'd care. I'm done giving these fucking idiots any benefit of the doubt.

Will they only wake up if nuclear warheads…

Russell Brown

Tue, 27 Sep 2016 11:59:20 +1300

I know I'm just shouting into the void here, but the Washington Post's David Farenthold has really started to get to the nub of the Trump Foundation.

Bottom line: he's using it to avoid tax on money he is paid.

The numbskull Trump voter who wrote [[http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/84662860/Why-I-m-voting-for-Trump|this dreck on Stuff…

nzlemming

Mon, 26 Sep 2016 23:40:52 +1300

Do the National Enquirer and New York Post count as significant?

Really? You have to ask? Lodged amid the Elvis sightings and seedy clickbait? Bwahahaha!

andin

Mon, 26 Sep 2016 21:05:10 +1300

The Great Old One could just use this, it looks as if its be used by another pretender. Nahh no one'll notice it. Its 'merica full of' 'mericans they wouldnt know if their arse was ablaze!!!!!
apologies for my insensitive generalising

Ian Dalziel

Mon, 26 Sep 2016 16:22:42 +1300

There are always other choices:
https://cthulhuforamerica.com/
and
https://cthulhuforamerica.com/florida-signs-strong-ground-game-cthulhu/

Though I'm not sure if Cthulhu as a Great Old One could produce a valid US Birth Certificate...

simon g

Mon, 26 Sep 2016 16:10:35 +1300

I am uncomfortable with writing anything on this discussion, because the very title (“dummkopfs”) is an awesome QED on culture wars and the rise of Trumpism.

The rise, maybe. But the destination – no.

There's a fundamental distinction between starting out wanting to vote Trump, and ending up actually doing…

Russell Brown

Mon, 26 Sep 2016 14:59:15 +1300

The New York Times: Why Donald Trump
Should Not Be President:

A change agent for the nation and the world?

There can be little doubt of that. But voters should be asking themselves if Mr. Trump will deliver the kind of change they want. Starting a series of trade wars…

Kumara Republic

Mon, 26 Sep 2016 12:25:06 +1300

Traditionally conservative papers have gone for Johnson. It is conceivable that no significant newspaper will endorse Trump.

Do the National Enquirer and New York Post count as significant? I'll leave out the New York Observer, which is owned by Trump's son-in-law.

Tom Semmens

Mon, 26 Sep 2016 11:52:14 +1300

I am uncomfortable with writing anything on this discussion, because the very title ("dummkopfs") is an awesome QED on culture wars and the rise of Trumpism.

Kumara Republic

Mon, 26 Sep 2016 11:03:32 +1300

That sound you hear is white American cleaving away from its own institutions.

Hell yes. The WASP establishment doesn't need any existential threats from the outside, it's already doing a sterling job of self-destructing and decaying from within.