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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						For all the accusations of John Armstrong fawning at the feet of whoever's in power, he seems to have come right <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&amp;objectid=10835004" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this piece</a>.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 23:11:23 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jeremy Eade</title>
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						Reflecting on this it's kind of nice to know journalists have feelings too, like we all do. I do feel a need to point out that Gordon Campbell has been an incredible New Zealand journalist, a Listener must read when I was first introduced to the magazine as a keen…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 22:35:26 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q> Reporters feel the same way when it happens to them.</q></p><p>And so they should – but “don’t be a dick” and “assume it’s a cock-up until proven otherwise” are good rules of thumb all around.  And my case study is (tah dah!) Fran O’Sullivan.  Way back in the dark ages…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 22:25:45 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Littlewood</title>
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						<p><q>I subscribe to two magazines: Vanity Fair and the New Yorker. I find American newspapers fairly pompous, but their best magazines are just … the best magazines. Granted, there is the odd disappointing issue of VF.</p><p>I first read The New Yorker when I was minding my ex-girlfriend’s flat in…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 20:45:57 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Felix Marwick</title>
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						As I said earlier I’m all for fair use and linking. Dissemination and sharing of news is a good thing. I have nothing against that. Ripping off the work of others is just a bit damn cheeky as far as I’m concerned. Bloggers, quite rightly, hate it when reporters rip…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 17:21:30 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:54:54 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						It'd be useful to post an example of a blog copying and pasting a whole story? I'd have thought if you did that persistently, you'd get at least a cease-and-desist.
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>However, the facts in your articles describe things that happened. You don’t own those facts. I can summarize them in my own words and you don’t have recourse, beyond loud grumpling.</q></p><p>Summarise away. Felix was complaining about people copy-pasting whole stories, or most thereof. I thought that was really clear.…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:43:13 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<q>Forgive me if I get a little pissed off at people who help themselves to my work and that of my colleagues, slap it up on their site without so much as a “please” or a “do you mind”. Journalism costs. You want to take our work? How about asking…</q>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:35:22 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>Hard to tell what his complaint was.</q></p><p>Not at all, as I <a href="http://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-tired-and-emotional-for-reals/?p=270033#post270033" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">noted above</a>.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:26:06 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>Hard to tell what his complaint was. Copyright law is pretty wide, and if some behaviour still isn't actionable, then what's the grounds for complaint.</p><p>In countries without newspaper monopolies, like the UK, other newspapers will grab copies of rivals when they appear in the middle of the night and…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:12:23 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>I can summarize them in my own words</q></p><p>I don't think that's Felix's complaint, to be fair.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 15:25:40 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p><q>lifting whole articles is taking the piss</q></p><p>It's also a breach of copyright, correct? You could sue, or call in the black helicopters (which I understand are now available to anyone with a copyright beef, or do you need to show a US passport?)</p><p>However, the facts in your articles…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 14:40:25 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>How about making a contribution even?</q></p><p>I like your work on Twitter, Felix. I hope drawing attention to it every now and then helps return your investment of effort. Likewise, me freely offering up potential story leads should help, I imagine. </p><p>But the economics of your industry and our whole…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 11:32:30 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Graham Dunster</title>
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						<p>"Finally, if you haven’t read Michael Lewis’s magnificent profile of Barack Obama for Vanity Fair, make the time. It’s subtle, insightful and beautifully crafted. Political journalism can be this good."</p><p>Interesting post on Stratfor's site examing the consequences of the NATO interference in Libya dealt with in Michael Lewis' very…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 11:19:06 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<q>Forgive me if I get a little pissed off at people who help themselves to my work and that of my colleagues, slap it up on their site without so much as a “please” or a “do you mind”. Journalism costs. You want to take our work? How about asking…</q>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 23:32:40 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						I think the reply sciblogs (a site I esteem) was too polite to suggest was   &ndash;  nuts
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				<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 23:14:37 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ross Mason</title>
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						<p><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&amp;objectid=10834584 " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> The Herald must be hearing the angels singing........no, no,....voice echoes  only.....Oh god...why Why WHY!</a></p><p>The vegetables. The eyes have it. The walnuts. The brains of the place. Check out the comment in Sciblogs about where they got it from.  Tabloid??? Hmmmm</p><p><br /><a href="http://sciblogs.co.nz/code-for-life/2012/09/17/what-kind-of-vegetable-or-fruit-describes-this-nz-herald-article/#comment-228403" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://sciblogs.co.nz/code-for-life/2012/09/17/what-kind-of-vegetable-or-fruit-describes-this-nz-herald-article/#comment-228403</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 22:59:48 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Felix Marwick</title>
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						<p>Actually Alistair I was trying to draw a distinction between what I regard as genuine blogging; opinion and news gathering involving individual research vs blatant plagiarism dressed up as opinion/news.</p><p>Forgive me if I get a little pissed off at people who help themselves to my work and that of…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 22:46:45 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Alastair Thompson</title>
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						To be fair to Farrar he drives a lot of traffic to the stories he "extracts" from. He mostly links to items he considers worthy of being discussed and he also does original work of his own relatively frequently. I think Felix is being a little precious in alleging that…
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>happily use huge tracts of reporter’s work on their blogs, chuck in one line of comment, and pass it off as insight</q></p><p>cough Farrar cough</p>
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				<title>Will de Cleene</title>
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						<p><q>Finally, if you haven’t read Michael Lewis’s magnificent profile of Barack Obama for Vanity Fair, make the time. It’s subtle, insightful and beautifully crafted. Political journalism can be this good.</q></p><p>It's a lot of fine words, but not one of them was drone. All the Martin Luther King and Gandhi…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 19:05:47 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Russell, regarding your earlier point about being surprised that journalists don’t read transcripts. I</q></p><p>I'm more surprised that people in official positions don't read official transcripts. Journalists, especially in radio, not so much. You already have a verbatim record.</p><p><q>Having said that your get did actually make for an interesting…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 19:04:50 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Felix Marwick</title>
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						<blockquote>Meanwhile what no doubt incensed Armstrong so much was the “indirect” insult about interviewing typewriters which we can see from Russell’s quote wasn’t actually directed at John in any event. Fran and now Felix Marwick have now elected to focus on this part of Armstrong’s critique probably thinking it is…</blockquote>
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				<title>andin</title>
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						Sorry to disappoint you, I think its in the genes. Oh, and a good education helped.
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						My favourite young journalist, Alex Tarrant, also went to Vladivostok and Japan. It might have been his first big overseas trip with the PM. It would be interesting to hear his version.
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				<title>Alastair Thompson</title>
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						<p>I would add Toby Manhire, Ana Samways and dear old Zagzigger whose recent but wily adoption of the twitter "tone" is to be commended. </p><p>Most important of all in my mind is the deliberate adoption of an open approach to public self criticism and letting writers have a relatively long…</p>
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				<title>Jdrinnan</title>
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						Not sure what you're on ... but I'll have some.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:25:49 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>But if you want senior, is the new editor of The Press enough for you? ( @jojourno )</q></p><p>Turns out she was following me already. She clearly has excellent taste.</p>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<p><q> engaging with readers and largely getting the tone right. </q></p><p>Yeah most of the Fairfax people I see on Twitter are navigating the personal/official divide in different ways. I don't engage with them too much because my Twitter account is definitely a private venture, and it would be professionally a bit…</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>though the broadcasting codes contain good taste and decency requirements</q></p><p>And yet, somehow, Paul Henry lasted years.</p>
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				<title>Steven Price</title>
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						<p>Late on this, but:<br /><q> Unlike the mainstream media, the blogs are not subject to accuracy or taste &ndash; and sometimes even the law.</q><br />Actually, newspapers aren't subject to standards of taste in the Press Council's Statement of Principles (though the broadcasting codes contain good taste and decency requirements).<br />Someone should…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>I don’t see an obvious disparity between the two companies’ activity online, but I’m interested what Alastair had in mind.</q></p><p>I see what he meant. The two most senior editorial employees at the Herald, editor-in-chief Tim Murphy and editor Shayne Currie, have been active on Twitter, engaging with readers and…</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>I don't see an obvious disparity between the two companies' activity online</q></p><p>same</p>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<p>Yes, shepherding Stuff Nation out has been consuming most of my energy recently. It will be very interesting to see how Fairfax' editorial team and readers end up using it.</p><p>Further to my snarky reply to Alastair, quite a few Fairfax reporters, columnists and bloggers are "cutting it up" on…</p>
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						<p><q>Which raises a more subtle &ndash; and infinitely more interesting &ndash; question about the complex symbiosis between journalists and their sources. Politicians need press; and journalists need access.</q></p><p>Which Gordon Campbell addressed in his response, <a href="http://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-tired-and-emotional-for-reals/?p=269753#post269753" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">as highlighted</a>. Real analysis.</p>
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						snap. Mark noted the birth of 'Stuff Nation' <a href="http://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-tired-and-emotional-for-reals/?p=269794#post269794" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">upthread yesterday</a>.
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						<p><q> It was really up to his editor to exercise some judgment and refuse to run the piece. </q></p><p>Bingo – or, you know, actually do <em>editor-y shit</em> and suggest “you know, you might want to sleep on it (or at least have a cup of tea) and come back with another…</p>
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						<p><q> the magazine’s notorious fact-checkers could query every clause of a piece and still miss the point.</q><br />Nice line... but isn't it a little better than out-sourced sub-editors who couldn't style a chicken's hair-do and think a macron is something you eat with cheese?<br />Yah gotta love that the NYer is…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 09:57:40 +1200</pubDate>
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						<p><q>People were probably a bit taken aback</q></p><p>The tone suggests that, yes.</p>
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						<p><q>[citation needed]</q></p><p>Quite. Not so fast. Fairfax launches <a href="http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/BU1209/S00556/meet-stuff-nation.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">new online initiatives</a>, including making money from online interactions.</p>
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				<title>Danyl Mclauchlan</title>
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						Apparently the APEC gig was pretty shitty, with sleep-deprived journalists left waiting outside meeting rooms for six hours without access to food or water. I can see how irritating it must be to put up with that then read criticism of your work from someone back home, no matter how…
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						<p><q>... while I love the <em>New Yorker</em>'s long-form pieces on principle the magazine's mandarin house style can tip over into self-parody. </q><br />The <em>New Yorker</em> has long practiced its own house style of radical chic by recruiting contributors from the edgier regions of publishing. The limitations of that kind of self-satisfied…</p>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<p><q>And it is abundantly clear that the NZ Herald is miles ahead of Fairfax in adoption of a more “on net” attitude to the news process.</q></p><p>[citation needed]</p>
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				<title>andin</title>
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						<p>Jdrinnan sez<br /><q>Its his opinion and he stands or falls on it – at least he puts his name to what he says.</q> <br />I have to think about things, takes me some moments. So I'll never make a journalist. Wrapped around a very obvious fact this statement occupies that nebulous…</p>
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				<title>Alastair Thompson</title>
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						Since this is such a civilized conversation I will repost my remarks on this controversy (posted on the KJA  Facebook page where they have sunk like a stone – the denizens of NZ’s media establishment are not really as keen to debate the state of the media as they appear…
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<p>Completely off topic, but this Campbell Live story on the poverty gap as demonstrated through school lunches at decile 1 vs decile 10 schools is pretty good journalism I thought:</p><p><a href="http://www.3news.co.nz/Lunchbox-differences-in-decile-1-and-decile-10-schools/tabid/367/articleID/269617/Default.aspx" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.3news.co.nz/Lunchbox-differences-in-decile-1-and-decile-10-schools/tabid/367/articleID/269617/Default.aspx</a></p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>I find American newspapers fairly pompous, but their best magazines are just … the best magazines. Granted, there is the odd disappointing issue of VF.</q></p><p>Sure, and just between us while I love the <em>New Yorker</em>'s long-form pieces on principle the magazine's mandarin house style can tip over into self-parody.…</p>
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				<title>DexterX</title>
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						<p><q>I actually always was a Superman fan. Can't say whether Clark's journalism thing was a part of the appeal though.</q></p><p>No doubt the appeal was wearing the underpants on the outside.</p><p>The media pundits have become, in their own minds, the news &ndash; they seem to all have the same…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>(Why Campbell is lumped in with content-pillagers I have no idea. He writes long pieces that in no way rely on links or quotes from others.)</q></p><p>Hmmm ... he will sometimes focus on a handful of linked sources, but generally it's something I haven't already seen and always fairly attributed.</p>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						What I find perplexing and a little sad is that in my experience, professional and otherwise, bloggers and social media bring readers to journalists. Anyone who is responsible for a popular website knows that referring links account for a great deal of page views. If Bryce Edwards makes a sarky…
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						I would add the <em>Atlantic</em> and another (sadly now closed) <em>_Stop Smiling</em>
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						Ta for clarifying. Perhaps I was wrong imagining it had some relationship with your comment about Armstrong: "at least he puts his name to what he says".
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Superman, rather, since journos aren’t technically human. (Bonus! Modern Clark Kent is a “social issues” reporter who lives in a dilapidated apartment block.)</q></p><p>I actually always was a Superman fan. Can't say whether Clark's journalism thing was a part of the appeal though.</p>
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						They have opinions and are not shy about expressing them  &ndash;  and they both have a  medium to reject the allegations.
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				<title>Andre Alessi</title>
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						<p><q>So Peter Parker rather than Bruce Wayne?</q><br />Superman, rather, since journos aren't technically human. (Bonus! Modern Clark Kent is a "social issues" reporter who lives in a dilapidated apartment block.)</p>
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						<p><q>but Campbell and Edwards aren't shrinking violets</q></p><p>I'm not clear what you're trying to say, John.</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>opens up a festering issue about bloggers and the relationship with mainstream media</q></p><p>Yeah, nah. </p><p>Well to be fair it might be a subject for discussion around your table at tea time, but out here in the rest of New Zealand (and I'm going to use a royal we here)…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Not pointing any fingers …PA more open than a lot of blog comment</q></p><p>As I said, I tend to avoid the political blogs these days. I rely on Bryce to read them for me ...</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Vanity Fair article on Obama is superb, thanks Russell. I still argue to friends and colleagues that the journalism (political and otherwise) in VF is routinely superb, despite the typical American obsession with celebs. </q></p><p>I subscribe to two magazines: Vanity Fair and the New Yorker. I find American newspapers fairly…</p>
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						Not pointing any fingers ...PA more open than a lot of blog comment &ndash; he made inflammatory comments and getting heat &ndash; but Campbell and Edwards aren't shrinking violets
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						as do Edwards, Campbell and many other NZ bloggers &ndash; and most of us discussing it here.
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						Its his opinion and he stands or falls on it &ndash; at least he puts his name to what he says.
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						<p><q>We actually have super-powers. They make up for the crappy pay and poor future job prospects.</q></p><p>So Peter Parker rather than Bruce Wayne?</p>
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						<p><q>I would not have used Gordon Campbell and Bryce Edwards to illustrate the issue</q></p><p>Yet he did.</p>
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						<p><q>opens up a festering issue about bloggers and the relationship with mainstream media</q></p><p>Almost as if nobody else had been writing about it during the last decade.</p>
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						My opinion, John Armstrong opens up a festering issue about bloggers and the relationship with mainstream media. Personally, I would not have used Gordon Campbell and Bryce Edwards to illustrate the issue. ( that's me speaking not the Herald)
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				<title>Michael Hogan</title>
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						<p>Vanity Fair article on Obama is superb, thanks Russell. I still argue to friends and colleagues that the journalism (political and otherwise) in VF is routinely superb, despite the typical American obsession with celebs. At least they know their market. I miss Hitchens though.<br />Lewis puts much more of Obama's…</p>
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						<p><q>Fair enough. I still think it was completely out of order for Tim to go and hype it on the basis of one of his own writers being “put in his place”. That’s just shitty, as is Fran attacking Bryce Edwards on the Herald site.</q></p><p>And at the risk of…</p>
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						<q>ETA: Before anyone points this out, yes… I’ve long expressed my strongly held opinion that the revolving door between newsrooms and political/corporate PR needs a padlock put on it sooner rather than later. (It would also be fair to say it’s one of many subjects Russell, Damian and I agree…</q>
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						<p><q>Fran O’s columns have an inverse bell curve of quality – she either writes decent investigative stuff, or she writes complete bollocks, with not much in the middle ground.</q></p><p>She has excellent contacts and at her best can really cut to the quick of an issue. And some days, yeah,…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>At the risk of branding myself a crawler – Good on the Herald – allowing criticism of one of its own writers – long may a robust debate continue.</q></p><p>Fair enough. I still think it was completely out of order for Tim to go and hype it on the basis…</p>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						Fran O's columns have an inverse bell curve of quality &ndash; she either writes decent investigative stuff, or she writes complete bollocks, with not much in the middle ground.
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>and made an issue of Edwards having briefly worked for the Aliiance in Parliament more than a decade ago,</q></p><p>Not only a cheap shot, but one that can come back on a boomerang.  You don’t need a crystal ball to predict the reaction if anyone accused Armstrong of being a…</p>
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				<title>mark taslov</title>
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						<p>Looks like a whole new ballpark Rich. Not in actual money Jdrinan. Check it out:  <br /><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff-nation" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff-nation</a></p>
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						Are they being paid?
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						If the generality of "reader interaction" in NZ newspapers is anything to go by, I'm not sure we really need another venue for ignorance, racism, bigotry and ignorant racist bigotry.
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<p><q>Anyway, I thought about replying to Fran’s comment on the the Herald site, but it’s just getting unpleasant now.</q></p><p>What is Fran O’Sullivan so afraid of? She sounds like those shrill right wing idiots who campaign to keep al jazeera out of the U.S. lest it pollute the mainstream discourse…</p>
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						<p><q>Anyway, I thought about replying to Fran’s comment on the the Herald site, but it’s just getting unpleasant now. And I think it's being poorly handled by their editors.</q><br />The fact it's being played out within their own comments is laughable...</p>
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						At the risk of branding myself a crawler &ndash; Good on the Herald &ndash; allowing criticism of one of its own writers &ndash; long may a robust debate continue. There is too much cross media ownership in New zealand for media to drift into camps. Bloggers could learn from the…
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				<title>mark taslov</title>
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						<p>It's notable that this teacup typhoon coincides quite neatly with introduction of <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff-nation/stuff-nation-benefits/7619045" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">stuff nation</a>. Outsourcing specialized assignments to amateurs, pro journalists under threat? </p><p><q>"Become a writer, a photographer or video journalist and you could have your work featured on Stuff Nation."</q></p><p><q>You can become a vital part of our team…</q></p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						Anyway, I thought about replying to Fran’s comment on the the Herald site, but it’s just getting unpleasant now. And I think it's being poorly handled by their editors.
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Yes – journalists are just like everyone else, only better.</q></p><p>We actually have super-powers. They make up for the crappy pay and poor future job prospects.</p>
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				<title>Jen</title>
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						Yes &ndash; journalists are just like everyone else, only better.
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						<p>Westerns, eh? <em>The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance</em>, where the John Wayne character gives up the girl to the younger Jimmy Stewart, who represents the future?</p><p>Tush, Ben.  No one one would ever call you 'dull'!</p>
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				<title>Lyndon Hood</title>
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						<p><q>Hell hath no fury like the blogerrati scorned.</q></p><p>Honestly though: Out of Armstrong, Campbell and Edwards in this one &ndash; who reads as the angriest and most abusive?</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Fran O’Sullivan now having at go at Bryce Edwards in the Herald comments on his latest roundup. Quite the little public spat they’ve all got going on, isn’t it…</q></p><p><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10833236" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">This</a> is the Edwards column that has Fran and John so up in arms:. Excerpt:</p><p><q>There was a lot build-up and reporting…</q></p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>Ben is right. NZ political Blog are so Boring</q></p><p>Me? But I don't even think that! Dull, angry, male and repetitive is actually my bio.</p>
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						Hell hath no fury like the blogerrati scorned.
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						Fran O'Sullivan now having at go at Bryce Edwards <em>in the Herald comments</em> on his latest roundup.  Quite the little public spat they've all got going on, isn't it...
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p>This whole thing has an element of the worm eating its own tail.</p><p>If you make your living by making public commentary or even merely reporting the facts, then having that commentary subject to crticism would seem to be part of the job. Rather than railing against it Armstrong might…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>The idea that a political correspondent of John’s stature would say of Edwards “Ooooh, you’re naughty, I’m going to tell Mr Key on you” seems to me a little far-fetched even if your starting point is that Armstrong is on the payroll of the PM’s media team.</q></p><p>Like I said,…</p>
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				<title>Tony Siu</title>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						Take the damn compliment, man!  Because, on Twitter, it was refreshing seeing 'old media' hands say "Hey, we didn't report it because he didn't say it &ndash; and here's the audio" instead of "fuck you, hater parasite".  And you did make the effort to correct and take full ownership of…
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				<title>Tristan</title>
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						id just like to add my thanks to Bryce Edwards for his round up. Its been awhile since uni and with a very busy 2 year old its actually pretty hard to keep in touch with politcs and I have found his round up very valuable shortcut to keep in…
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				<title>James W</title>
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						<p>Fran O'Sullivan on Facebook:<br /><q>John sticks it to the former Alliance staffer Bryce Edwards whose Politics Daily is carried on the Herald website giving him reach to an influential audience he has yet to earn.</q></p><p>Later, she uses the term "pinko" un-ironically.</p><p>It's funny when you realise "journalists" like Armstrong…</p>
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						Sounds to me like Armstrong is 'raging against the dying of the light' and not going quietly.  The sad ranting of a man who sees his days are numbered (and not into very many digits).
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						<p><q>Blazing Saddles: The cowboys sit around a fire, flatulently.</q></p><p>Heh, brilliant. They beat the crap out of some cardboard cutouts, and then are blown sky high by a single pistol shot from 5 miles away.</p>
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				<title>Peter Calder</title>
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						For the record, I read "It is now starting to develop a much more political dynamic that is unlikely to please National?, rather differently, as a heavily ironic litotes meaning “is likely to piss the Government off” [with no implication that it is a bad thing to piss the Government…
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						<q>You're far too modest to say so, Russell, but for an evil bitching blogger you did a pretty good job of promptly retracting and correcting a post that, in part, was highly critical of MSM non-coverage of the PM's brain-fart that wasn't at the Pacific Islands Forum stand up with…</q>
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						After pondering it a bit more, I think the Herald management should carry some of the blame. For relentless eighteen hour days you need two journalists, no matter what their age. Expecting youngsters to work an eighteen hour day for a week and produce anything decent is ridiculous, yet alone…
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>I was thinking about that. I’d struggle with that itinerary, and I do consider myself reasonably fit.</q></p><p>OTOH, Warren Berryman used to leave hacks half his age twitching and weeping into their over-loud Berocca.  But I guess you can't win &mdash; send your spring chickens instead of the battle-hardened old…</p>
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				<title>David Cormack</title>
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						<p>Tim Murphy is really not helping this situation by 'hyping' the 'spat' between them via his Twitter account.</p><p>Journalists behaving like MPs who behave like children.</p><p>Le sigh.</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>This is todays biggest issue in our land and every single relevant writer must cover it</q></p><p>Incoming! <a href="http://pubadr.es/8179" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Damian Christie</a>!</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						I hope the Herald's journalists and editors can meet to discuss the points that these two lucid responses raise about their role and value in today's media landscape.
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>Lord forbid that an independent commentator should fail to "please" the government. It's part of the doubtless sometimes difficult calibration of Armstrong's role that he may have to temper his commentary to maintain the confidence of all parties, and the governing ones in particular. </q></p><p>Gordon Campbell addresses this one explicitly…</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>I would expect an apology to be tendered, at least in private.</q></p><p>And Mr Edwards seems due for one directly from Mr Armstrong, judging by <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10834581" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">what Bryce writes here</a>:</p><p><q>I'm genuinely surprised by his vigorous critique of my work. In fact, I met him for coffee twice last month for amicable…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 12:05:20 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Blazing Saddles: The cowboys sit around a fire, flatulently.</q></p><p>MAJOR LOLZ.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 12:03:05 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p><q>the awesomeness of seeing so many important world leaders</q></p><p>A bit like going to the White House / Downing Street and peering through the railings. I wonder, when political journalists were small children, their favourite treat was to sit in the car on Tinakori Rd and wait for the PM…</p>
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						<em>Blazing Saddles:</em> The cowboys sit around a fire, flatulently.
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>It occured to me that he isn’t a young – or even reasonably fit middle aged – man anymore. Maybe it is as simple as he just can’t hack the pace on these big overseas assignments anymore. </q></p><p>I was thinking about that. I'd struggle with that itinerary, and I do…</p>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<p>Reading John Armstrong  &ndash;</p><p> <q> ...Few media representatives travelling with John Key would have got more than four or five hours’ sleep each night – probably less – because of the Prime Minister’s schedule, which ran from 6am (earlier if a flight was involved) until well into the evening. Days were…</q></p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p>Which western is to be channeled? Four main options I see:</p><p>&ndash; <em>High noon</em>. Some isolated old fart decides to have a fight and no one else wants to join in so he has to take the gang by himself. Nope, not applicable here.</p><p>&ndash; __Once upon a time in…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 11:41:44 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>bob daktari</title>
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						<p>This is todays biggest issue in our land and every single relevant writer must cover it</p><p>Some people wonder why the public seemingly only care about celeb culture...</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 11:40:31 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>I've been consciously spending less time with political blogs and blogging because it's so often dull, angry, male and repetitive.</q></p><p>Yes, if we wanted that, we'd join the army.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 11:33:04 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						Why is it the NZ media can spare an airfare to cover a John Key media opportunity overseas, but not for actual foreign news stories?
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 11:27:58 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						<p><q>I actually don't think there's much ignorance of the realities of journalism from Gordon's corner.</q><br />When did Gordon stop being/working as a journalist and become a 'blogger'? I'm not sure where and how lines are drawn, but neither Werewolf nor Scoop are what I would call blogs.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 11:25:06 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Lyndon Hood</title>
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						I'm guessing Armstrong didn't call Gordon either. And if we're running by the rules of accuracy, I actually don't think there's much ignorance of the realities of journalism from Gordon's corner.
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						A certain higher-profile panty-drawer rummager from Auckland – too obvious to mention – has gotten away with far nastier stuff than Campbell and Edwards, so I’d always wondered if Armstrong was shooting at the wrong targets.
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						You're far too modest to say so, Russell, but for an evil bitching blogger you did a pretty good job of <a href="http://publicaddress.net/hardnews/we-what/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">promptly retracting and correcting</a> a post that, in part, was highly critical of MSM non-coverage of the PM's brain-fart that wasn't at the Pacific Islands Forum stand up with…
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>And just as I hit “publish” here, Gordon Campbell has published <a href="http://gordoncampbell.scoop.co.nz/2012/09/17/gordon-campbell-on-journalism-and-john-armstrong/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">a long and thorough response to Armstrong’s complaints</a>.</p><p>And now <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10834581" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Edwards himself has responded</a>, with remarkable grace.</p>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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