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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I think his appearance on TV3 the other night showed he wasn't that comfortable in front of a camera</p></blockquote><p>Yeah, I got a distinct impression he was used to public speaking to crowds, he had the kind of gestural movements and the roving eye you get in competent podium speaker,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sept 2010 13:05:54 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<blockquote> No, Sofie &mdash; the business owners I know are not happy with "airy fairy" at all.</blockquote>If they are not happy, I will say, just glad they didn't vote for Banks (or Hide) last time, as they certainly are the selfish of the bunch in this " I know John Key,…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sept 2010 09:28:41 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p>Herald headline writer has fun: <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10670526" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">'John Key is my mate vote for me'</a></p><blockquote><p>Mr Banks got a united "ooh ... " from the audience, when he hinted that he was in closer circles with Prime Minister John Key than his opponent, Mr Brown.</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sept 2010 07:47:57 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I am certain, but just my opinion, (and many think I'm weird), those with a vested interest in Auckland City Business inc. are quite happy with airy fairy. It allows manipulation, with influence, which Rodney's ilk are probably happy with.</p></blockquote><p>No, Sofie &mdash; the business owners I know are not…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sept 2010 23:48:30 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But I think a good mayor is one who knows transport inside out, and can get involved in the details.</p></blockquote><p>Well they better if it's basically the only issue they're campaigning on.</p><p>I agree about the bang for buck with buses, too. We've spent all this money on roads, we…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sept 2010 23:46:52 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Joshua Arbury</title>
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						<p>Cheers for the mention Sacha.</p><p>Linking this back to the main topic of conversation, I actually think what's most important is what the mayors say about little transport issues. It's easy to say "yeah I support rail to the airport, North Shore Rail and so forth..." but generally they're not…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sept 2010 23:05:19 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<blockquote>It's never going to be desirable to anyone who has to carry a lot of stuff, or works somewhere that's actually not in the city but they have to suffer city traffic, or uses the vehicle in their work, or works funny hours, or has some disability.</blockquote> Or, has to…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sept 2010 22:50:12 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<p>Yarbury says:</p><blockquote><p>So how could we go about making boarding times faster? Well perhaps the biggest step is underway already in terms of implementing integrated smart-card ticketing. The new tickets will not require interaction with the driver, so you’ll be able to board even while someone is stuffing around digging…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sept 2010 22:21:58 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>We don't generally disagree Ben, I just think the lack of extensive and permanent transport lanes is an impediment to mass use of buses</p></blockquote><p>Certainly I don't disagree with extensive transport lanes, although permanent seems overkill, and unnecessarily mean to people who want, for instance, to park on the street…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sept 2010 22:17:50 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<blockquote>t concerns me that Banks apparently isn't the most delusional candidate in the field.</blockquote> I am certain, but just my opinion, (and many think I'm weird), those with a vested interest in Auckland City Business inc. are quite happy with airy fairy. It allows manipulation, with influence, which Rodney's ilk…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sept 2010 22:17:19 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Banks would do well to front up and say that he was wrong about the gays.</p></blockquote><p>He'd have to do it pretty well for me to believe he really meant it.</p><blockquote><p>Oh well then... why's he delusional particularly? More so that Banks?</p></blockquote><p>It concerns me that Banks apparently isn't the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sept 2010 21:51:14 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Joshua Arbury has a recent discussion about speeding up bus travel by boarding <a href="http://transportblog.co.nz/2010/08/31/faster-boarding-the-great-opportunity/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">through both doors</a>.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sept 2010 21:33:07 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Buses have other advantages, don't forget. You don't have to park the buggers. That matters if you're going to the city all day. Also, you don't have to own them, nor learn how to drive them.</p></blockquote><p>These things are all true, however if you have the choice of driving or…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sept 2010 20:54:43 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						Elitist? I'm thinking back to the sozzled crowds of ozzie yobbos that thronged Albert Park ... or the hordes of Italian boy racers that would hoon around my window every time Ferrari won (I did practically live on Lygon St, within 200m of about 100 Italian restaurants). But yeah, practically…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sept 2010 19:16:52 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<blockquote>Dude, give me some credit. If I was going to suggest an international racing event for NZ it wouldn't be V8 "Supercars", </blockquote>And for me it would not be F1 either, that is far too elitist for my liking but something along the lines of European Saloon cars, bring back…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sept 2010 18:04:42 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Ben, I actually think this is a big deal. For me, buses lose their appeal if they're not at least as fast, if not faster than cars.</p></blockquote><p>Buses have other advantages, don't forget. You don't have to park the buggers. That matters if you're going to the city all day.…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sept 2010 16:21:24 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>SteveH</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Regarding trains to Auckland airport, doing the extra 11k or so from the new Onehunga station, or even perhaps the 6-7k from Puhinui, seems like a no-brainer.</p></blockquote><p>The current preferred option (which admittedly does include a link up to Avondale) is estimated at $2.2B. Spending that sort of money should…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sept 2010 16:01:10 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Withers</title>
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						Having heard talk-back host, John Banks, push the dump button on an endless stream of callers to his show on the former Radio Pacific because they disagreed with him and challenged his views,  I have no interest whatever in voting for the man. If he shows respect for the view…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sept 2010 14:21:45 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Look out of the window on a fine day: is the sky nearest the horizon a nice shade of brown? No? Then you're fine.</p></blockquote><p>Well, it's quite noteworthy that if I apply your test from my office window (down by the ferry terminal) on a nice, still, sunny winters day…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sept 2010 14:00:31 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Naturally people on buses go slower. That needs to improve, but I'm not sure if the cart can travel before the horse.</p></blockquote><p>Ben, I actually think this is a big deal. For me, buses lose their appeal if they're not at least as fast, if not faster than cars. </p><p>It…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sept 2010 13:53:33 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>but will they see through this...</strong></p><blockquote><p>Totally pr0n!</p></blockquote><p>wonder how they'd cope with this Japanese<br />medical supplier's <a href="http://thoughtcatalog.com/2010/x-ray-pin-up-calendar-japan/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Xray-ted calendar?</a> *</p><p>*very possibly NSFW, <br />mostly bones but some fleshy outlines<br />parental guidance and lead shielding recommended</p>
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				<title>Martin Lindberg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The site you requested is blocked under the following categories: Pornography</p></blockquote><p>Well duh! It has a naked breast (with nipple!1!1) showing on the first page.  Totally pr0n!</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sept 2010 11:46:43 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>uroskin</title>
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						The best Airport-to-City public transport experience I have had is in <a href="http://www.mtr.com.hk/eng/airport_express/intro_index.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Hong Kong</a>: 35km in 24mins for NZ$18.50 return. It was possible to spend an agreeable day on Hong Kong Island when on a 7 hour flight transfer. Try doing that in Auckland!
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				<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sept 2010 11:38:39 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>James Butler</title>
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						<blockquote><p>James, can you email me with some more details?</p></blockquote><p>Done.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sept 2010 10:40:24 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I just received this message from my work web filter proxy:</p></blockquote><p>James, can you email me with some more details? Which organisation and which filter product? I'm sure Al at Scoop will want to know.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sept 2010 10:23:15 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>James Butler</title>
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						<p>I just received this message from my work web filter proxy:</p><blockquote><p>You cannot access the following Web address:<br /><a href="http://werewolf.co.nz/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://werewolf.co.nz/</a></p><p>The site you requested is blocked under the following categories: Pornography</p></blockquote><p>It worked fine last month, so someone must have reported it since then. Where am I going to get my…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sept 2010 10:12:28 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						Heh, well, yes. I have a test for this. Look out of the window on a fine day: is the sky nearest the horizon a nice shade of brown? No? Then you're fine.
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Bike lanes would be nice but I don't hear these Super City folks talking about them...</p></blockquote><p>Oh they're talking about them now &ndash; as an inconvenience to drivers on <a href="http://transportblog.co.nz/2010/08/27/finding-a-solution-for-dominion-road/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Dominion Road</a> &ndash; where businesses apparently will cease unless folk can park cars right outside their street frontage at all times.…</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>All I know is the air stinks in the city.</p></blockquote><p>You're making me wish I didn't delete (as I do with most of what I write these days), my spiel about how people thinking Auckland has bad traffic are cut from the same cloth that sees the place as "The…</p>
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				<title>Richard Wain</title>
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						<p>I'm with Ben, it's not so bad here. Mind you, I work in Auckland City and also live in town. I don't own a car and bike everywhere, it's great!</p><p>Apart from nearly getting murdered every day by arrogant motorists who can't see that the lane (one of two on…</p>
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				<title>Jeremy Eade</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Hence my asking about the average</p></blockquote><p>All I know is the air stinks in the city. I worked for 3 years  in Penrose. A 8.00 a.m meeting would involve getting out of your driveway by 7.00 a.m out East, 6.45 a.m out West and I have heard insane stories from…</p>
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				<title>TracyMac</title>
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						<p>Regarding trains to and from airports, and the quibbles about luggage, how much luggage are you taking? I think that people who have more than one bag large enough to check in are decidedly the minority these days.</p><p>It is slightly irksome that the Sydney train doesn't have luggage racks,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 23:04:21 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Only if you live in a suburb that has quick access to another one, plenty of people cross all over town for work and then during the day a bunch of them drive all over town in search of the elusive dollar.</p></blockquote><p>Hence my asking about the average. Standard deviation…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 22:57:46 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>She'll inject life into things. Who said this was boring?</p></blockquote><p>Unfortunately, Penny's brand of excitement is of the "why are there are these chanting naked people and a goat in my living room?" variety.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 22:37:08 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						Maybe it's getting lost in text but man Gordon Cambell comes across as a dick in that Werewolf interview
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				<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 22:13:54 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>SteveH</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I was just suggesting joining up to existing but also thought it was only freight to Hamilton at the moment.I imagined rail for tourists heading south, 'tis all.</p></blockquote><p>Oh, I see. I've got to wonder though: if a passenger service to Hamilton isn't viable now, would an airport link provide…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 22:02:07 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p>So bad for productivity &ndash; and for the economy in other ways. We spend a fortune on travel compared with cities who have good public transport.</p><p>Do read that Gordon Campbell <a href="http://werewolf.co.nz/2010/08/sunshine-superman/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">interview with Len Brown</a>. It's good, as Russell says. Hope there will be a similar one with Banks so…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 21:56:06 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jeremy Eade</title>
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						I'm sick of going into Auckland offices we're everyone gets to work and has breakfast. Some of them might as well still be in their pyjamas given the trancelike way the first hour of business seems to flow.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 21:46:20 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jeremy Eade</title>
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						<blockquote><p>What's the average commute for a car driver? Half an hour? Less</p></blockquote><p>Only if you live in a suburb that has quick access to another one, plenty of people cross all over town for work and then during the day a bunch of them drive all over town in search…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 21:34:08 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p>Transport is a key issue partly because people are not clear where the balance of influence in fixing it lies between central and local government &ndash; which is the elephant in the room with the whole 'super' city thing.  </p><p>Dealing with Joyce, English et al over big projects like the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 21:20:11 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Not the V8 thing again, I beg you.</p></blockquote><p>Dude, give me some credit. If I was going to suggest an international racing event for NZ it wouldn't be V8 "Supercars", so named to explicitly exclude all of the faster cars the rest of the world makes. It would be Formula…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 21:15:07 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p>Having said all that, I did almost get wood when both potential mayors promised us both a new bridge and a central city loops. Something good might actually come of having a super city after all. If they're telling the truth, that is.</p><p>Edit: Curveball idea for the Banks team.…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 20:58:13 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Not the V8 thing again, I beg you.</p></blockquote><p>Hay, Auckland will have to bale out its inner city roads sometime or crash and burn...</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 20:57:22 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						Jeremy, you and I have a different idea of locked up. For me locked up doesn't mean "moving slowly but steadily". What's the average commute for a car driver? Half an hour? Less? That's pretty quick, really. Naturally people on buses go slower. That needs to improve, but I'm not…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 20:54:18 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<blockquote><p>BRIGHT Penny</p></blockquote><p>She'll inject life into things. Who said this was boring?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 20:50:43 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<blockquote><p>sometimes almost illogically and one accident can stop the southern motorway for an hour.</p></blockquote><p>Much like coastal Highway One from Oaro to Kaikoura, yet another truck jack-knifed there this week, blocking the road for hours. The road is so totally not suitable for big trucks, and has a great rail…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 20:27:01 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p>George, you're right I got my fares mixed up there. That was another one on the same trip. But the real price doesn't seem that bad to me, I must say. Yeah, it's got an airport 'tax' in it, but so do the cabs.</p><blockquote><p>The difference between them is night…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 20:11:47 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ben Austin</title>
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						The Heathrow Express was 15 pounds one-way last time I used it and it only got me to the western side of the centre. Not a lot of use for business types I would think.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 20:01:22 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>JLM</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I found the Sydney airport link bloody fantastic last time I used it. It was a truly novel experience to be in the center of the city 17 minutes after coming through customs, for the princely sum of $6.50.</p></blockquote><p>$15 airport to Central last month...</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 19:34:35 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote>I found the Sydney airport link bloody fantastic last time I used it. It was a truly novel experience to be in the center of the city 17 minutes after coming through customs, for the princely sum of $6.50. Yes, I did have to wheel my suitcase along a bit,…</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 19:17:36 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<blockquote>How does rail to the airport help get rail to Hamilton?</blockquote> I was just suggesting joining up to existing but also thought it was only freight to Hamilton at the moment.I imagined rail for tourists heading south, 'tis all.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 19:06:46 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It was a truly novel experience to be in the center of the city 17 minutes after coming through customs, for the princely sum of $6.50. Y</p></blockquote><p>Did you jump the stiles? The access fee to the station is $11.80AUD, with a regular ticket on top of that.</p><blockquote><p>is that…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 19:01:50 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<blockquote>Which two Councils are you thinking of? </blockquote>ARC and Auckland superdooper City Cuntcil. Sorry, I didn't make it that clear.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:55:32 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>SteveH</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Well surely, that would come from it and I 'd suggest to Hamilton.<br />Then Hamilton can foot some of the bill.</p></blockquote><p>How does rail to the airport help get rail to Hamilton? Don't we already have rail to Hamilton?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:34:22 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Banks impassioned statement that Brown wanted to divide the city up on race</p></blockquote><p>Not the V8 thing again, I beg you.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:17:49 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<blockquote>I find it quite amazing that transport really is the number one issue, and virtually to the exclusion of the others. I mean honestly FFS Auckland's bloody easy to get around, I always think that when I get back home from anywhere, even places that have frikken awesome public transport.…</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:15:43 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jeremy Eade</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It's got a bloody motorway right through the middle of it.</p></blockquote><p>Which gets locked up twice a day , 5 times a week and then some. One of my jobs was driving around Auckland roads.They just stop all the time, sometimes almost illogically and one accident can stop the southern…</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<blockquote><p>If, as been suggested, rail was to go beyond the airport</p></blockquote><p>Well surely, that would come from it and I 'd suggest to Hamilton.<br />Then Hamilton can foot some of the bill.</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Actually they are both regional</p></blockquote><p>Eh? I was talking about ARC and Ak City in context of the waterfront stadium mention. One is regional and one local, with different responsibilities as set up in the 2002 Local Government Act. Which two Councils are you thinking of?</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<blockquote>I found the Sydney airport link bloody fantastic last time I used it. It was a truly novel experience to be in the center of the city 17 minutes after coming through customs, </blockquote> Likewise I, in Heathrow to London. Suitcases on trains, no problem. Brilliant. Get off plane, Wheel suitcase…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 17:43:16 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Banks impassioned statement that Brown wanted to divide the city up on race</p></blockquote><p>I do wish our media would call out silly old fossils who confuse the Treaty with "race". Herald obediently <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10670026" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">repeats the lie</a>.</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						Much as I am a great fan of rail I have to agree with those doubting the wisdom of rail to the airport. Most people, I would assume, don't travel by air that much so the additional expense of a taxi or better still, a shuttle to their door, can…
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						I found the Sydney airport link bloody fantastic last time I used it. It was a truly novel experience to be in the center of the city 17 minutes after coming through customs, for the princely sum of $6.50. Yes, I did have to wheel my suitcase along a bit,…
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				<title>st ephen</title>
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						<p>The Sydney airport line costs an arm and a leg to use compared with the other lines in Sydney.  It's also a fair old trek with your luggage to the station from the arrivals area.<br />Then you end up downtown with your luggage and guide book surrounded by throngs of…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The reason is that Sydney City is geographically tiny and has a population of about 110,000 people.</p></blockquote><p>You could also snark that being a Lord Mayor in Australia must have a rather light workload, as Clover Moore is also the local member of the state Legislative Assembly.Perhaps she could give…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 17:22:21 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<blockquote> Botany Downs and environs is an obvious choice.</blockquote>Except that in the planning of Botany Downs and environs there was no provision for rail, there is no longer a corridor.
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				<title>James Butler</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The question is whether an airport link is the best option for expanding the network. I'd argue that there are better options if the goal is to reach the greatest number of commuters.</p></blockquote><p>Botany Downs and environs is an obvious choice.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 17:15:01 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Only one is local, the other regional</p></blockquote><p>Actually they are both regional and as  have said many times before, what did we need this extra layer of bureaucracy for?.<br />If decisions needed to be taken on a regional level then we had the regional council, if we needed local control…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 17:14:03 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>SteveH</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The airport train route also allows connection of another chunk of people living and working along the route &ndash; which would loop around to connect with Manukau's cbd too.</p></blockquote><p>One of the issues cited with the Sydney airport link is that it also serves commuters resulting in competition between travelers…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 17:00:07 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Roger</title>
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						<blockquote><p>In unrelated news, anyone else notice that Peter Tennent in New Plymouth has been selected as one of 25 Mayors from around the world in the 'World Mayor' 2010? You can vote here, by the looks of it.</p><p>No idea what kind of Mayor he is, but hard to imagine…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 16:36:54 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It does rather stupid to have two independent local councils operating in the same geographic area.</p></blockquote><p>Only one is local, the other regional &ndash; like most of NZ other than the top of the South Island.</p>
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				<title>Roger</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The airport train route also allows connection of another chunk of people living and working along the route &ndash; which would loop around to connect with Manukau's CBD too.</p></blockquote><p>If it makes sense on that basis, then go for it but Sydney and Brisbane airports were not able to generate…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 16:34:43 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>SteveH</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Which begs the question, did we need a Supercity?</p></blockquote><p>I can't help feeling that part of motivation was to punish the ARC for sinking the waterfront stadium. It does rather stupid to have two independent local councils operating in the same geographic area.</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						The airport train route also allows connection of another chunk of people living and working along the route &ndash; which would loop around to connect with Manukau's cbd too.
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>it guarantees the job goes to those that already control the purse strings</p></blockquote><p>You mean <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/4073461/Chiefs-for-supersized-Auckland-named" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">a</a> "small, but rich, pool of talent"?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 16:26:33 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>SteveH</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Both Brisbane and Sydney built rail to their airports in recent times as PPPs, and both ran into financial trouble, leading (so I understand and correct me if I am wrong) to the state governments having to bail them out. If those two cities can't make an airport rail link…</p></blockquote>
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						<blockquote><p>Which begs the question, did we need a Supercity?</p></blockquote><p><em>Now</em> we ask that question?  Well, admittedly people have been saying that all along, but when you put it in the Australian context, it does seem like putting an awful lot of responsibility in the hands of one person.  Especially in…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 16:11:28 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Heather W.</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm wondering why there seem to be no women in the running, and who might credibly stand in 2013.</p></blockquote><p>The other candidates aren't getting anything like the same airtime. As to 2013, perhaps if Christine Rankin gets into Council this time, may well try for top job next time.</p><p>From…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 16:06:35 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<blockquote>Given Auckland's very large geographic area and huge population (by world standards &ndash; 1.4 million is very big outside of Asia), it is simply not possible for an independent to fund a campaign... or at least very unlikely </blockquote>Which begs the question, did we need a Supercity? or is it…
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						Thanks Roger. I'd not thought about the numbers/coverage and your right to point out that Sydney City is small &ndash; I live less than five kms from the CBD and am not in Sydney City myself.
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						<blockquote><p>What's interesting is that they're both so clearly aligned with the major political parties. The Lord Mayor of Sydney, broadly equivalent I believe, is an independent</p></blockquote><p>The reason is that Sydney City is geographically tiny and has a population of about 110,000 people.  People are under the misconception that NZ…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 15:29:34 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<blockquote>I'm wondering why there seem to be no women in the running </blockquote>Oh, they're running, one glimpse of Rodders and off they went, we've seen how he chucks 'em around on the dancefloor.
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p>Come on down Tim Shadbolt, or should that be come on up?.<br />Waddaya reckon Tim? Willing to give it a go?.<br />Bit late this time but next time?.</p>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm just wondering why an independent can't win?</p></blockquote><p>I'm wondering why there seem to be no women in the running, and who might credibly stand in 2013.</p>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Tussle for wider power this first time, and first past post, hence the parties. Some smart independents likely in 2013.</p></blockquote><p>Thanks Sacha, this makes sense.</p>
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						Tussle for wider power this first time, and first past post, hence the parties. Some smart independents likely in 2013.
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>the reneger in the woodpile...</strong><br />Perhaps Rodney Hide will suddenly decide that as no one really viable candidate has emerged, he will, selflessly, take the role himself...<br />...and Aucklanders dismissed the E-Can semi-putsch!</p>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Was never going to be room for more than two viable candidates, given the politics.</p></blockquote><p>What's interesting is that they're both so clearly aligned with the major political parties. The Lord Mayor of Sydney, broadly equivalent I believe, is an independent, Clover Moore. Her predecessor, Lucy Turnbull (wife of Malcolm)…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Prast always seemed a very sensible and progressive bloke to me, isn't he a chance.</p><p><em>No. He's delusional.</em></p></blockquote><p>In spite of all the free publicity he has garnered from bFM (and I think I caught him on George also?) over the past few weeks.</p><p>No offence to those concerned, but…</p>
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				<title>Jeremy Eade</title>
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						<blockquote><p>In NZ at the moment it is the private sector that has a debt problem, not the public sector</p></blockquote><p>This is the problem of today. The private sector is in debt. Jobs have to come from state stimulation because private debt clearance will be sadly slow and argueably hasn't even…</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Was never going to be room for more than two viable candidates, given the politics.
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						Oh well then... why's he delusional particularly? More so that Banks?
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						<blockquote><p>Prast always seemed a very sensible and progressive bloke to me, isn't he a chance</p></blockquote><p>No. He's delusional.</p><p>And also the lowest polling candidate in the field.</p>
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						It's been 21 years since I lived in Akl, are Banks and Brown the only <em>likely</em> winners? I just saw that Simon Prast is a candidate, his website's <a href="http://simonprast.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">here</a>. Prast always seemed a very sensible and progressive bloke to me, isn't he a chance? The fact that he's looking beyond…
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<blockquote><p>as has happened in Australia a few times.</p></blockquote><p>And the UK. Horror stories about PPP-built hospitals are numerous.</p><p>And Scotland has it's own version of the bridge to nowhere in the shape of the isle of skye-mainland link. The locals are ecstatic about having to pay roughly five times as…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>As for rail to Albany... there is a nice new busway, noweher near capacity, except for inadequate parking at stations... let us concentrate on making that work first!</p></blockquote><p>Perhaps I'm biased &mdash; literally living across the road from the Constellation Drive station &mdash; but it seems to be working pretty…</p>
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						<blockquote>"We're going to buy a new train set and make Brittomart work like a real train station and buy lots of really neat stuff, it's going to be great"  ... As soon as Brown mentioned the rail link to Albany I thought "Oh, so you think you're going to win…</blockquote>
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						<blockquote><p>Decades of surburban poverty in South Auckland and other smaller western suburbs.</p></blockquote><p>The Royal Commission addressed that by proposing a powerful local-central government partnership on social issues and pooled public funding. Naturally it was watered down by this Nact government into a quiet "Social Policy Forum".  Ask candidates about that…</p>
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				<title>Roger</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm not ideologically opposed to public-private partnerships, but I'd sure like to know what kind of safeguards and controls Greater Auckland would have in place</p></blockquote><p>PPP arrangements certainly have their place, but there needs to be a better debate around what these are and how they apply:</p><p>**1. The 'public…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>As soon as Brown mentioned the rail link to Albany I thought "Oh, so you think you're going to win instant Kiwi too?"</p></blockquote><p>Ah yes, my partner (who has worked in rail for 46 years) is prone to snarking that if Joan Didion hadn't gotten in first 'The Year(s) of…</p>
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				<title>Jeremy Eade</title>
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						<p>Auckland has two major scandals as far as I can see having lived here most of my life.</p><p>1)Transport<br />2) Decades of surburban poverty in South Auckland and other smaller western suburbs.</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p>I sat down to watch the "Debate" last night but after a short time I decided I had bigger things on my plate, in this case it was a rather nice piece of Gurnard and some cauliflower Cheese.<br />Looking and listening to John Banks reminded me of a stoner going…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>His responses are far more detailed and convincing than any broadcast media interview Brown has done. He would clearly benefit from doing more like this.</p></blockquote><p>Indeed &mdash; looks like both Banks and Brown should be facing some direct and pointed questions about their enthusiasm for PPP's.  I'm not ideologically opposed…</p>
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				<title>Christopher Dempsey</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Which is a nice segue to a very good piece of advice Simon Wilson had for Banks &mdash; Just say "I was wrong" (about teh gayz, your errors as Mayor) about something, anything &ndash; and MEAN IT</p></blockquote><p>I saw that helpful tip in the Metro from Simon Wilson to Banks.…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 12:26:32 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Okay, this is interesting:</p><p>Gordon Campbell has <a href="http://werewolf.co.nz/2010/08/sunshine-superman/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">interviewed Brown for Werewolf</a>.</p><p>His responses are far more detailed and convincing than any broadcast media interview Brown has done. He would clearly benefit from doing more like this.</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I've heard substantive detail from Brown at least about local board arrangements and advocating for law changes for some bits of the structure that are probably too broken.</p></blockquote><p>Reports from local meetings seem to indicate that Brown routinely turns up better-briefed than Banks and able to discuss local issues, but…</p>
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				<title>Ben  Curran</title>
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						<p>paying attention to the councilors would be nice. I'm finding it a little hard to do given the apparent dearth of information regarding them available. </p><p>Maybe I'm looking in the wrong places.</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Craig, but I've heard substantive detail from Brown at least about local board arrangements and advocating for law changes for some bits of the structure that are probably too broken.</p></blockquote><p>Fair enough, Sacha.  But I think it's also fair comment that Brown should be expected to own his record every…</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Those were unimpressive, stumbling performances. I'm hoping people pay more attention in either case to what the candidates have *done* over what they say they will. I haven't followed either candidate closely, Craig, but I've heard substantive detail from Brown at least about local board arrangements and advocating for law…
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And yet, despite all that, it will probably be an appeal to trust that drags Brown through.</p></blockquote><p>Up to a point, but I think Simon Wilson has a typically sharp and sceptical take on both Banks and Brown in the latest <em>Metro</em> (once you get past the rather queasy making…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						The Auckland Trains blog <a href="http://www.aucklandtrains.co.nz/2010/08/30/banks-vs-brown-on-pt/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">transcribed</a> the respective candidates' undertakings on public transport.
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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