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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>“LET THESE PANELS NEVER BE FILLED”</q></p><p>Bravo :)</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p>...and more of this: <a href="http://d3nd7i493f0o21.cloudfront.net/assets/upload/278694/38098424/DSCF0279.JPG" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://d3nd7i493f0o21.cloudfront.net/assets/upload/278694/38098424/DSCF0279.JPG</a></p><p>"LET THESE PANELS NEVER BE FILLED"</p><p>Best sentiment in the entire Museum.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2015 17:47:30 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p>Less of this: <a href="http://d3nd7i493f0o21.cloudfront.net/assets/upload/278694/-555452985/DSCF0274.JPG" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://d3nd7i493f0o21.cloudfront.net/assets/upload/278694/-555452985/DSCF0274.JPG</a></p><p>and this:</p><p><a href="http://d3nd7i493f0o21.cloudfront.net/assets/upload/278694/1750109329/DSCF0273.JPG" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://d3nd7i493f0o21.cloudfront.net/assets/upload/278694/1750109329/DSCF0273.JPG</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2015 17:45:36 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						My hopes for the 21st Century Anzac legacy: 1/3
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				<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2015 17:44:30 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<p><q>I’d just point out that had almost any other British politician been PM in 1941 (especially the crypto-quislings on the Conservative benches) Britain would probably have surrendered to the Nazis.</q></p><p>That’s true, but thereafter his grasp became increasingly tenuous, heading towards deluded. Invasions of the Greek Isles, the coast of…</p>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>It's interesting that Key is in Saudi creeping to the local despot. </p><p>Had the Dardanelles landings succeeded (or indeed had Turkey remained out of WW1) Britain wouldn't have needed the Saud family's support in overthrowing Turkish rule in Arabia and the current incumbent wouldn't be on the throne. </p><p>Maybe Key…</p>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>I'd just point out that had almost any other British politician been PM in 1941 (especially the crypto-quislings on the Conservative benches) Britain would probably have surrendered to the Nazis.</p><p>Also, unlike just about every other politician, Churchill (albeit briefly) left politics during WW1 and took command of front-line troops…</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>1st lord of the admiralty</q></p><p>Yeah I did know that. Was being facetious. </p><p>His story is interesting &ndash; the debacle at Gallipoli somehow didn't quite destroy his career. To some degree he probably became a better war leader because he no longer actually planned campaigns and left that task to…</p>
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				<title>John Farrell</title>
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						Bart &ndash; Churchill was elected to parliament in 1900, and he was 1st lord of the admiralty (a political position) when the war started, so he was already a politician.
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>I still don’t really understand how NZers came to be invading Turkey.</q></p><p>Really short version.</p><p>Churchill had this idea that opening up another front would relieve pressure in France and Belgium. His plan was to sail troops into the Sea of Marmara and attack Istanbul.</p><p>The problem was the narrow…</p>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<q>I’m not arguing with the work the “Heroes” charities do. I’m arguing with their labelling. As far as I can see, the only pre-requisite for “Hero” status is to join the armed forces. Volunteering to kill people doesn’t seem particularly heroic to me. In order to benefit from the “Hero”…</q>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2015 21:49:33 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<p><q>Not into military history but it seems the first war wasn't finished properly (Germany not properly defeated) so after a couple of decades the second one started.</q></p><p>The period 1914-1945 is sometimes referred to (somewhat contentiously) as '<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Thirty_Years%27_War" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">the second thirty years war</a>'.</p><p>French/German antipathy, and the roots of the French…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2015 21:36:11 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>to the surprise of the Kaiser et al.</q></p><p>The Kaiser wasn’t a player in the 1918 surrender, having been forced to abdicate some months earlier by the military dictatorship that had effectively ruled Germany since 1916. The WW1 focus on the dastardliness of the largely ineffectual “Kaiser Bill” was mostly…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2015 20:24:28 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p>Said doco series painted that as the US and other financiers demanding a return on their loans, to the surprise of the Kaiser et al.</p><p>But there also seemed to be a culture angle. Troops never marched through Berlin. Suspect that's why Allies went the distance in WW2.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2015 19:48:58 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>The impression I got was that Germany were not forced to properly admit they had been beaten</q></p><p>I'd suggest that the problem might have been that they <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_231_of_the_Treaty_of_Versailles" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">really had their collective nose rubbed in it</a>.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2015 19:39:56 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						The impression I got was that Germany were not forced to properly admit they had been beaten, so the conditions were resented as unfair. Like I say, not my area. The WW1 series on Maori TV has been illuminating but is based on only one author's perspective.
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>(Germany not properly defeated)</q></p><p>Are you suggesting that the conditions imposed upon Germany after it's WW1 defeat were excessively punitive? That seemed to be the dismayed consensus of Robert Graves and his fellow junior officers in <em>Goodbye to All That</em>. As a participant in the "Christmas Truce" of 1914 he…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2015 19:04:11 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>The worst thing about WW1 is WW2. It was like we learned nothing and had to do it all again</q></p><p>Not into military history but it seems the first war wasn't finished properly (Germany not properly defeated) so after a couple of decades the second one started.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2015 18:45:39 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						WW1 is as long ago for us as the Napoleonic invasion of Russia was for them. Despite my family having been in it, I'm losing interest. The military parades seemed like an appropriate memorial for those who had been in wars, although for most of my life that would have…
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				<title>Son of Dad</title>
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						There have been some truly strange responses to this Anzac Day.  There's a French delicatessen in my neighbourhood oddly named after a resistance group from the Second World War (and grotesquely named in my opinion; kind of like calling a German-themed florist 'the White Rose').  This shop advertised an Anzac…
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>I wrote another post ...</p><p><a href="http://publicaddress.net/hardnews/anzac-day-ii/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://publicaddress.net/hardnews/anzac-day-ii/</a></p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<q>Leaving the Wellington dawn parade this morning, I noticed at least a couple of cafes open on Cuba Street, at least one of which had some ANZAC themed advertising out front taking advantage of the mass exodus, and Burger King on Lambton Quay appeared to be open. Are they allowed…</q>
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				<title>wendyf</title>
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						<p>"Anyway, thanks all. I had actually been struggling with what to say about this, but I just stopped what I was doing this morning and wrote the post. It’s a relief to discover I’m far from the only one feeling this way."</p><p>Echoing Russell here. I've just finished reading all…</p>
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				<title>David Hood</title>
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						<p>I went to one of the smaller satellite events in the area of Dunedin, as my daughter was involved in posy laying with Girl Guides.</p><p>People might be familiar with the way the older generations (including my own) will tend to mumble through the Maori verse of the National Anthem…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2015 13:48:06 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Michael Homer</title>
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						<p>Cafes have always been allowed to open, as has anywhere else "<a href="http://legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1990/0057/latest/DLM212365.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">whose principal business is selling ... prepared or cooked food ready to be eaten immediately in the form in which it is sold</a>".</p><p>They don't have to close on Monday either.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2015 12:39:19 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>izogi</title>
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						<p>Apparently since the Holiday's Act, <a href="http://i.stuff.co.nz/national/68046042/Mondayisation-causing-a-headache-for-employers" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">cafe's can now open on ANZAC Saturday if they close on the following Monday</a>. Or something.</p><p>That seems rather weird. If it was merely about ensuring that all of your workers has one of the two days off, it's hard to see why large supermarkets…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2015 08:36:08 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q> This household was woken on Anzac morning by a biohazard team stripping out the neighbouring house before demolition. I’m unsure whether to be peeved or pleased.</q></p><p>Heh.<br />I'd thought that Australia was a little tougher than NZ when it came to enforcing the sanctity of ANZAC proper, but it seems…</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>strained fruit...</strong><br /><q>I couldn’t spot many of the 25,000-odd in Cranmer Square this morning who were there for the glorification or entertainment.</q><br />I don't believe anyone else had implied that those going to dawn parades were doing so for the motives you allude to &ndash; from what dark well did…</p>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						Here's my artistic take on the Gallipoli centennary, "Ghosts of Gallipoli" (also viewable at <a href="http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=2614514" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Renderosity</a> and <a href="http://deepred6502.deviantart.com/art/Ghosts-of-Gallipoli-529032330" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">DeviantArt</a>)
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				<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2015 23:56:01 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Hebe</title>
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						<p><q>Bad taste biscuits, fake trenches, John Key – by all means call out these low hanging fruit, but really is that all you’ve got? I couldn’t spot many of the 25,000-odd in Cranmer Square this morning who were there for the glorification or entertainment.</q></p><p>There’s more than one way of…</p>
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				<title>Hebe</title>
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						<p><q>Are they allowed to trade on ANZAC morning these days?</q></p><p>I don't know about cafes. This household was woken on Anzac morning by a biohazard team stripping out the neighbouring house before demolition. I'm unsure whether to be peeved or pleased.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2015 23:32:23 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>izogi</title>
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						<p><q>I started to feel uncomfortable about all this a few weeks ago, when the Camp Gallipoli Event at Ellerslie (since cancelled) was being advertised.</q></p><p>After I heard the Australian promoter talking on NatRad about how (from memory) it was New Zealanders' fault for not getting in to support something great,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2015 23:28:59 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						Some  aspects of this Anzac  have been bloody awful, such as the parade of Jackson's war toys and  Soviet Brutalism statues at Te Papa, but one good thing today was seeing a restored print of Jean Renoir's anti-war film  <em>The Grand Illusion</em> (1937), as part of the French Film Festival.…
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						Thanks for that summary. The Armenian genocide was very briefly featured on TV3 News tonight with the Pope naming it as such. But item mentioned certain leaders won't use the G word including our PM. (I would not be surprised if he knew nothing of this history).
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>Bad taste biscuits, fake trenches, John Key – by all means call out these low hanging fruit, but really is that all you’ve got? I couldn’t spot many of the 25,000-odd in Cranmer Square this morning who were there for the glorification or entertainment.</q></p><p>Are you replying to someone's specific…</p>
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				<title>andrew gunn</title>
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						Bad taste biscuits, fake trenches, John Key &ndash; by all means call out these low hanging fruit, but really is that all you've got? I couldn't spot many of the 25,000-odd in Cranmer Square this morning who were there for the glorification or entertainment.
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						NZ was a self-governing British colony from 1854 to 1907, and British dominion from 1907 to 1947. We've only been an independent country for 68 years. Our sole national anthem was God Save the King/Queen until 1977, and it's still one of our official anthems and commonly played at ANZAC…
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				<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2015 15:48:26 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>At  a Turk? sorting the ottomans from the tall boys...</strong><br /><q>Bryce Edwards has a round up of stories </q><br />I wonder who okayed the "join the Tall Poppy Crusade'  <a href="http://www.tallpoppyrealestate.co.nz/agents/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">'Tall Poppy Real Estate Agents' ad</a> on that page...</p>
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						<a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&amp;objectid=11438125" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Bryce Edwards has a round up of stories</a> You are mos def not alone, Russell
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						<p>Here's the Kardashians selfies and all, commemorating genocide in Armenia 100 years on.</p><p><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/celebrities/67698088/Why-is-Kim-Kardashian-in-Armenia" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/celebrities/67698088/Why-is-Kim-Kardashian-in-Armenia</a></p>
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						<p>I still don't really understand how NZers came to be invading Turkey.</p><p>Meanwhile Turkey was kicking out Armenians, and who has recently highlighted that centennial? Non other than Kim Kardashian, a descendant.</p>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>Interesting how Peter Jackson and Weta workshops’ version of the War have become the new reality. </q></p><p>Indeed it is. It was the curiously <a href="http://artfcity.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/110325_050337_34472980.jpg" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">North Korean aesthetic</a> of Richard Taylor’s <a href="https://www.wetanz.com/assets/Uploads/Unveiling.jpg" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Rugby World Cup sculpture</a> that first brought into focus for me how Weta had somehow become the arbiters of state-sanctioned capitalist…</p>
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				<title>TracyMac</title>
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						<p>Great post.</p><p>So agreed on the "amusement park" trenches. My great-grand uncle died in one in Northern France. </p><p>However, the one in the Auckland museum always moved me. There was a similar larger-scale exhibit in the Imperial War Museum in London that really got to me &ndash; it came with…</p>
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						Interesting how Peter Jackson and Weta workshops’ version of the War have become the new reality. The exhibition of the huge gory men in Te Papa has a constant lengthy queue. The parade yesterday in Wellington was bizarre.  Peter Jackson’s collection of restored vehicles and actors dressed up as WW1…
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				<title>Mike O&#039;Connell</title>
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						<p><q>…they also died because of very bad leadership and planning, is Key putting his hand for honouring that as well.</q></p><p>Hands... I recall James K Baxter's 'The Gunner’s Lament' (1965), about a dying Maori soldier in Vietnam  &ndash; which he concludes with these burning lines: </p><p><q>‘And go and tell Keith…</q></p>
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						<p>Today's music...<br /><a href="https://youtu.be/cZqN1glz4JY" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://youtu.be/cZqN1glz4JY</a></p>
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						<p><q> They died for a belief in our country and what we stand for</q><br />What we <em>stood</em> for I could accept &ndash; "Where Britain went we went etc" &ndash; but 100 years later that is no longer what <em>we stand</em> for.</p><p>This morning I read Gordon Campbell's excellent piece in Werewolf;…</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>They died for a belief in our country and what we stand for...</q><br />...they also died because of very bad leadership and planning, is Key putting his hand for honouring that as well.</p>
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				<title>Lucy Telfar Barnard</title>
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						<q>But I don’t really see how an air base open day is different to the Navy base open day I went to in Devonport a few years back.</q>It wasn’t an air base Open Day. They didn’t have those, there was a war on (they were busy bombing Libya). It was…
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						I hate that speech so VERY much.
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						<p>The Prime Minister remembers the great success of the Gallipoli campaign, to help us understand ...</p><p>"I think it would be denigrating their service and sacrifice to say they died for nothing. They died for a belief in our country and what we stand for and they stood alongside their…</p>
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						<p><q>The Belgians actually had two world wars in their country (without provoking them in any way). They’re still digging up mustard gas. Aren’t they entitled to sell a few chocolates?</q></p><p>It's the "official" endorsement from the RSA that I find most anger-making.</p>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>Where are the tone police when they are needed?</q></p><p>Speaking of which, I felt that this fits well with the refreshingly BS-free tone of Russell Brown's piece. <a href="https://scontent-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11178335_806397016110556_5972401585079805842_n.jpg?oh=14f656642ba33c5625c0c5e1ce6b4ca7&amp;oe=5598080F" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Glen Le Lievre</a> from tomorrow's SMH.</p>
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				<title>Hebe</title>
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						<p><q>The trenches were a place that young men died, not an amusement park ride.</q></p><p>Quite. Where are the tone police when they are needed? (I didn’t realise the trench  was on tour. Presented by the History Channel.)</p><p>Christchurch people: I’m told the 19th Battalion and Armoured Regiment Service at  The…</p>
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						<p>In Oz as a young lad, we had remembrance day on the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month, because it was funny to keep shooting people for a few more days and hours until it came to a tidy number.</p><p>The story we got told was…</p>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<p><q>That may have been the case when you were a lad, but on our recent stay in the UK we were shocked and pretty horrified at how obsessed with WW2 the UK appeared to be.<br />As far as I could tell, this suited the ends of the State very well.…</q></p>
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						The Belgians actually had two world wars in their country (without provoking them in any way). They're still digging up mustard gas. Aren't they entitled to sell a few chocolates?
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				<title>Katharine Moody</title>
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						<p><q> I was given great pause by the “Flanders Fields Commemorative” chocolates I saw today, asking if they were made with mud, terror and amputated limbs. Gah.</q></p><p>I find the day similarly conflicting. My granddad was toe-tagged as dead during the Passchendaele campaign, serving with the 1st Royal Newfoundland Regiment. Only…</p>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<p><q>I’m surprised Aldi didn’t jump on that bandwagon as well.</p><p>Also, the use of war to sell stuff has gone on as long as we've had wars:</q></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUAK7t3Lf8s" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUAK7t3Lf8s</a></p>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						<p><q>But my father served in the Dutch army during WWII and I know almost nothing about his experiences. Except the very gaps tell a story, not a fun exciting boys own story.</q><br />A good mate started giving me (via facebook messages) stories of his family's lives during wartime in Holland.…</p>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						<p>Russell asked me to post my tweets, so here they are.</p><p>My great-grandfather, George "Sonny" Skerrett, Gallipoli survivor, interviewed for the occasion of his 100th birthday in 1992:</p><p>"Ashore, it was frightful. Terrible.... The Turks applied for the armistice to bury the dead. I went out with four doctors, couldn't…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>An Aussie lad-mag hijacks Anzac for a bikini cover.</q></p><p>I'm sure the Veterans Affairs Minister in a Government that <a href="http://www.ntnews.com.au/news/northern-territory/war-veteran-dreads-impact-of-looming-pension-cuts/story-fnk0b1zt-1226926068844" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">slashed the VA budget by $100 million and announced plans to further cut veteran pensions</a> last year will be suitably outraged,</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q> I think it’s also true that the official messaging of 2015 has smoothed out the century since into something far less complex than it really was.</q></p><p>I've never felt that connected to the "official messaging", but that might have more to do with the way Anzac Day actually went down…</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p>I struggle with all the aspects of ANZAC day and the way we view war itself. So much is boys own heroism. So much clinical analysis of strategy and tactics and weaponry and ...</p><p>And I'm fascinated by much of that as well.</p><p>But my father served in the Dutch…</p>
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						<p><q>An Aussie lad-mag hijacks Anzac for a bikini cover.</q></p><p>*headdesk*</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						An Aussie lad-mag <a href="http://www.crikey.com.au/2015/04/24/zoo-weekly-sexes-up-anzac-without-va-approval/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">hijacks Anzac for a bikini cover</a>.
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>People use the word ‘sacrifice’ a lot to refer to the war dead. The defining feature of true sacrifices, to me, is that they achieve nothing. No one says that though.</q></p><p>Every statistical casualty can be converted to political capital. In declaring himself to be a pacifist on ABC radio…</p>
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						<q>I felt an unexpected surge of pride in celebrating ANZAC day (I’d just pinned on a poppy) when Checkpoint announced the ‘Anzac of the year’ was Louise Nicholas. Came out of left field, but if that’s what the RSA et al really want to celebrate this year, I’m pretty bloody…</q>
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						Interesting Checkpoint interview just now with the Australian author of <em>Anzac's Long Shadow</em>. Staggeringly, the Abbott government is spending $300 million on this year's extravaganza.
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				<title>James Butler</title>
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						<p>People use the word 'sacrifice' a lot to refer to the war dead. The defining feature of true sacrifices, to me, is that they achieve nothing. No one says that though.</p><p>(I've spent yesterday and today sitting through rehearsals for  tomorrow's ceremonies in Wellington. If I'd known how cartoonish parts…</p>
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				<title>Jenny Kirk</title>
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						<p>" But there were also iwi, disposessed of their land, their populations already ravaged, who wanted no part of the Empire’s war, and Maori who absconded from conscription for the same reason." .......  <br />Yes &ndash; and some of those iwi (Tainui in particular) were jailed at North Head (Takapuna) for…</p>
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						<p><q>I still maintain that the treaty of Waitangi, is New Zealand’s real foundation for nationhood. Not the sacrificing of young men to the empire.</q></p><p>True. The one good thing to come out of the failure at Gallipoli was that NZ &amp; Australia started demanding from London a bigger say in their…</p>
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						<p>One of the commercialisations that really got my goat was <a href="http://www.foodworks.co.nz/3-9-1765/news/Special-ANZAC-chocolates-hit-the-shelves" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this one</a>. And to top it off, <a href="http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/belgian-made-anzac-chocolates-benefit-rsa-cg-171057" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">they’re made in bloody Belgium</a>.</p><p>[edit] Oh, yes, the man on the cover is wearing an American uniform as well.</p>
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				<title>Mike O&#039;Connell</title>
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						<p>In Dunedin, there's a great exhibition Rule of Law and War at the univeristy's law library, a special display highlighting interesting legal matters of contemporary relevance.</p><p>Worth having a deeper read on just how extreme was NZ law’s reaction to the First World War in Andrew Geddis' post on Pundit,…</p>
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				<title>Just thinking</title>
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						Had a wee read of The Neglected War about our invasion of Samoa. What a drunken shambles. Stole the treasury and drunk the proceeds, canned Germans without trial, stole their businesses but then let the crops rot. Imprisoning Samoan wives & mothers with infants for staying with her Chinese husband. And…
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						<p><q>there were also iwi, disposessed of their land, their populations already ravaged, who wanted no part of the Empire’s war, and Maori who absconded from conscription for the same reason.</q><br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rua_Kenana_Hepetipa" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Rua Kenana</a> &ndash; 1916 was notable for the armed invasion of the Urewara :(<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jji3mPSWoew" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jji3mPSWoew</a></p>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						I felt an unexpected surge of pride in celebrating ANZAC day (I'd just pinned on a poppy) when Checkpoint announced the 'Anzac of the year' was Louise Nicholas. Came out of left field, but if that's what the RSA et al really want to celebrate this year, I'm pretty bloody…
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						<p>Not to mention that Britain wouldn't have enabled a rather obnoxious group of religious zealots to take power in the Arabian peninsula.</p><p>I'd imagine the Ottoman Empire would have collapsed at some point in the 20th century though, with substantial ructions given the huge area of land (and oil) they…</p>
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				<title>B Jones</title>
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						My daughter's doing Anzac Day at school &ndash; last night I found a copy of her great great great uncle's photo and service record, and printed it off for her.  A 26 year old former architect, he was in the Ambulance Corp (I think) and at Gallipoli from the start…
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						<a href="http://werewolf.co.nz/2015/04/whats-to-commemorate/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Gordon Campbell says similar</a>
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				<title>Ianmac</title>
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						It seems sad to me that those who went and returned seems to be not treated with enough respect. After all because they lived on the nightmares were  daily demons. They must have been so very very brave to have carried on in spite of the awful experiences that the…
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>Mud and Glory...</strong><br /><q>“We will remember” increasingly seems to mean “we will imagine”.</q><br />does that include the <a href="http://www.tepapa.govt.nz/AboutUs/Media/Pages/TePapaandWetaWorkshopopengroundbreakingGallipoliexhibition.aspx" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Te Papa Weta Dreams</a><br />scaled-up mucky &amp; <a href="http://christchurchartgallery.org.nz/exhibitions/ron-mueck/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Muecky</a> creations?</p><p>Feels  to me like they've forced the viewer into a Hobbit-sized POV...</p><p><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/67841405/te-papa-brings-epic-scale-of-world-war-i-to-life" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/67841405/te-papa-brings-epic-scale-of-world-war-i-to-life</a></p>
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						Absolutely not. As for "Lest We Forget", it seems we have forgotten it was the War to END All Wars...
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						Anyway, thanks all. I had actually been struggling with what to say about this, but I just stopped what I was doing this morning and wrote the post. It's a relief to discover I'm far from the only one feeling this way.
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				<title>simon g</title>
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						<p>I started to feel uncomfortable about all this a few weeks ago, when the Camp Gallipoli Event at Ellerslie (since cancelled) was being advertised.</p><p>The promotional material told us:</p><p>__Kiwis will have the opportunity to sleep under the stars, just like the ANZAC soldiers did 100 years ago, and wake…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>But fake trenches in the Auckland CBD?</q></p><p>Billed by TVNZ as <a href="http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/don-t-miss-downtown-auckland-street-turned-into-ww1-trench-video-6292046" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Don’t miss out on this</a>. </p><p>Meanwhile, Stuff has <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/last-post-first-light/68023291/how-to-get-in-the-trenches-on-anzac-day" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">How to get in the trenches on Anzac Day</a></p><p>The trenches were a place that young men died, not an amusement park ride.</p>
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				<title>Lucy Telfar Barnard</title>
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						<p>That may have been the case when you were a lad, but on our recent stay in the UK we were shocked and pretty horrified at how obsessed with WW2 the UK appeared to be. <br />As far as I could tell, this suited the ends of the State very well.…</p>
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				<title>bob daktari</title>
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						I'm feeling pretty despondent about ANZAC day this year, and the whole century of WW1 "celebrations" &ndash; its always been an important day in my year but its just been made into something it shouldn't because it serves others interests in the way it was never meant to be -…
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>I’m surprised Aldi didn’t jump on that bandwagon as well.</q></p><p>German veterans could become associate members of the Australian RSL since at least the 1960s, though I imagine that sieg heiling during the silence would have been frowned upon.</p>
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						<p><q> fake trenches in the Auckland CBD? </q></p><p>When I was a young lad, we didn't need fake trenches. There was a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombsite" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">bomb site</a> on nearly every street in most UK cities. </p><p>People weren't much into remembrance parades either &ndash; I think the older generation had seen enough of actual war. And…</p>
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						Well, wars and advertising. I don't think they had posters enouraging you to buy the brand of mead the archers at Agincourt drank.
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						<p><q>It’s happened in Oz with Woolworths</q></p><p>I’m surprised Aldi didn’t jump on that bandwagon as well.</p><p>Also, the use of war to sell stuff has gone on as long as we've had wars:</p>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>    Companies attempting to use ANZAC day to raise their own profile had best be very wary – overstepping the mark could result in an ugly backlash.</p><p>It’s happened in Oz with Woolworths.</q></p><p>They’ve been nibbling at the boundaries for some time. Twelve years ago there was a BNZ TV ad…</p>
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				<title>Hebe</title>
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						<p><q>those poor bastards, let’s not do this again’</q></p><p>Yes. </p><p>I have been uneasy at  so much of the well-meaning over-production this year, and I and many others want to acknowledge the centenary. </p><p>But  <em>fake trenches in the Auckland CBD</em>? I can almost imagine my grandfather’s reaction. Jack Elliott was tetchy…</p>
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						<p><q>Companies attempting to use ANZAC day to raise their own profile had best be very wary – overstepping the mark could result in an ugly backlash.</q></p><p><a href="http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-32313043" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">It's happened in Oz with Woolworths</a>.</p>
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				<title>william blake</title>
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						<p>We tend, further, to forget the complexity of Maori participation in the first world.</p><p>Paging Dr Freud..:)</p>
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						<p><q>    "I felt then, as I feel now, that the politicians who took us to war should have been given the guns and told to settle their differences themselves, instead of organising nothing better than legalised mass murder."</p><p>&ndash; Harry Patch (until 2009, the last surviving man to have fought in…</q></p>
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				<title>Brent Jackson</title>
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						<p><q>Unless the tone changes from one of 'didn't we do well to fight in those wars' to 'wan't that an awful chapter in our nations history, those poor bastards, let's not do this again' then I don't have any interest in partaking in the 'celebrations'. </q></p><p>I think the tone has…</p>
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						<p>As for Gallipoli…</p><p>Gallipoli is the name of a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallipoli_(1981_film)" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">1981 film starring Mel Gibson</a> as a plain but heroic man in tragic circumstances. It was an interesting and exciting film, based loosely on historical facts. These things made it useful for teaching in Australian high schools.</p><p>By the mid 1990s…</p>
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				<title>Greville Whittle</title>
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						<p><q>but there were fewer grand speeches from politicians. Big, greedy companies didn't try and get a piece of the action. It wasn't a stage for politicians.</q></p><p>I really liked the post Russell. I've noticed that there has been a huge change in how we talk about WWI over the last…</p>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<p><q>"I felt then, as I feel now, that the politicians who took us to war should have been given the guns and told to settle their differences themselves, instead of organising nothing better than legalised mass murder." </q></p><p>&ndash; Harry Patch (until 2009, the last surviving man to have fought in…</p>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p><q>most of the casualties on the allied side weren't Anzacs at all. They were British and French</q></p><p>Yep, exactly.</p><p><q> those poor bastards, let's not do this again</q></p><p>And that. But also, the idea that WW1 was unique and we aren't "doing it again" on a smaller scale, and with the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2015 12:26:43 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Samuel Scott</title>
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						<p>ANZAC should be a day of respect for the people who went through hell. But it doesn't feel like that. It feels like the commercialisation of nationalism. </p><p>Unless the tone changes from one of 'didn't we do well to fight in those wars' to 'wan't that an awful chapter in…</p>
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				<title>Nick Russell</title>
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						Thanks for this.  I always find myself biting my tongue and waiting impatiently for Anzac day to pass, and this year has been particularly difficult.  I don't want to provoke those for whom the day holds such a lot of meaning.  I just wish they'd get the damn facts straight.…
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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