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				<title>Leigh Baillie</title>
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						<p>I was there at 11.45pm on January the 20th (my memory fades after years) outside the old Intercontinental Hotel in Auckland at the anti Vietnam demos.  I saw the Police that night  in what I'd call the first of the modern times of Police *overdoing* their power.<br />I was out…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 21:11:04 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Peter Cox</title>
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						<blockquote><p>that sounds like the choice of a) a man who is too afraid to have an opinion, and b) a man who never goes out.</p></blockquote><p>Perhaps you're right. But still, (and I don't want to come across like a snob), I imagine a life where 'Johnny English' is your favourite…</p>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<blockquote><p>That Clark liked the Che hagiography certainly diminishes my respect for her.</p></blockquote><p>Oh, come on. You know she only picked that cos she's hot for Gael Garcia Bernal.</p><p>As for John Key's choice, Johnny English, that sounds like the choice of a) a man who is too afraid to have…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 12:28:32 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Peter Cox</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Least Fave Favourite</p></blockquote><p>Oops. This is what happens when you skip breakfast.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 10:26:49 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Peter Cox</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Fave Film: Johnny English<br />Least Fave Favourite: The Exorcist</p></blockquote><p>If National win I'm leaving the country.</p>
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				<title>Malcolm</title>
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						<p>I was in Biko squad at Eden park.  I remember that at the assembly point, people were invited to join the three 'action' squads, but warned they would be involved in confrontation.</p><p>The atmosphere was surreal, in retrospect.  The approaches to Eden park were fortified with big steel rubbish bins.…</p>
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				<title>Nobody Important</title>
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						Hmmm, the one I met down that way turned his back on me and then said "Piss Off".  The idiot presumably thought that if I complained he would have deniablity: "I know what the claimant said they heard Guv'nor but can they swear they saw my lips move?"   <em>Plonker</em>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 22:04:54 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						I, too, was at the Springbok protests  &ndash; in Auckland, to be more specific, and to be even more specific, down by the timber yards off Morningside Drive. Our job was to distract the police. I was 17 years old and had never been to a protest before &ndash; so…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 21:58:42 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Riddley Walker</title>
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						he he. ran out of garlic
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				<title>Danyl Mclauchlan</title>
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						<p><em>yeah, the Exorcist will be more useful then</em></p><p>The power of Key compels you!</p>
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				<title>Riddley Walker</title>
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						yeah, the <em>Exorcist</em> will be more useful then
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				<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 19:04:32 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Danyl Mclauchlan</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Helen Clark chose the bio of young South American revolutionary Che Guevara, The Motorcycle Diaries</p></blockquote><p>That Clark liked the Che hagiography certainly diminishes my respect for her.</p><p>It's funny that Key didn't like the Exorcist, given it's impeccable conservative values, but his appalling taste in film fits in with my…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 18:59:39 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>3410</title>
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						<p>Re: John Key</p><p>Fave movie: Johnny English<br />Worst movie: The Exorcist<br /><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/column/story.cfm?c_id=702&amp;objectid=10432595" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.nzherald.co.nz/column/story.cfm?c_id=702&amp;objectid=10432595</a></p><p>Personally, I fear for a country run by someone with such shockingly poor judgement.</p>
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				<title>Riddley Walker</title>
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						<p>i liked muskrat susy best. after muskrat jim anderton anyway.</p><p>9 is the trinity of trinities.</p><p>listening. no voices. only research.</p><p>10 4 big buddy. bears in the air. looks like we got ourselves a... oh shit, HAL's here.</p>
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				<title>merc</title>
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						<p>Muskrat Love, one of the greatest songs ever written, by anyone. Now Captain Riddley, everyone knows the Chief was really bonking 99, Max had no idea, and there's that number 9 again, get it?<br />Also, I say alot of things, and the voices do too, you're job is to listen,…</p>
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				<title>Riddley Walker</title>
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						<p>muskrats? i thought you said <em>meercats</em>. i wondered why you seemed to think their secretions were so fragrant. smelt like crap to me. explains why those Bush for Men toiletries never really took off though.</p><p>Kimosave, you can always tell the Chief after a battle by the number of arrows…</p>
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				<title>merc</title>
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						<p>Lone Ranger, look Tonto, the red man is coming, in numbers and they don't look happy with us.<br />Tonto; whaddya mean us, white man?<br />BTW, Captain and T worked, we recruited alot of muskrats for the cause you know.</p>
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				<title>Riddley Walker</title>
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						<em>you said</em> 'when all this is over, we'll be like Tonto and Teniel' and i could be the boss, <em>that's what you said</em>. now it's just like Don all over again.
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				<title>Riddley Walker</title>
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						<p>Kimosave, i thought <em>you</em> were the Captain and I was Teniel?<br />D</p>
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				<title>merc</title>
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						<p>I think we need to get you in, you know, for a quiet chat, Kurtz is obviously getting to you Captain...<br />"The more I read about him, the more I began to like him." (Apocalypse Now).</p>
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				<title>Nobody Important</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Perhaps it's a question of where you live.</p></blockquote><p>Crikey Rogerd &ndash; I'm moving to Wellie!! (Much better Public Transport too)</p>
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				<title>Riddley Walker</title>
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						<p>i mean<br />D<br />(you're right, this is getting confusing)</p>
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				<title>Riddley Walker</title>
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						<p>merc <em>you said</em> we were going to keep quiet about that.<br />J</p>
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				<title>merc</title>
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						<p>John Key; so Dave, how are those blogs you have going over there?<br />DPF; fine, fine, you know, I'm holding up, but this can't go on forever.<br />JK; look, not long to go now and you're home free, I must say "WO" is very impressed...<br />DPF; yeah, but maintaining 12…</p>
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				<title>Riddley Walker</title>
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						<p><em>I think you're getting over-excited.</em></p><p>you're probably right there Stephen. I would like some reassurance that kiwiblog's agenda doesn't seep over into 'research' a la maxim though. anyone got examples of Curia research questions and samples?</p>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						Riddley, do you have anything other than speculation to offer? I think you're getting over-excited.
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				<title>rodgerd</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The middle classe experience of the Police is pretty much limited to recieving traffic tickets from them, and that when we're burgled they do nothing.</p></blockquote><p>Actually, my middle class experience of the police is not getting speeding tickets, and having them locate, successfully prosecute, and retrieve the greater part of…</p>
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				<title>Riddley Walker</title>
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						<p>Malcolm the suggestion that <strong>Farrar's Curia research</strong> might suffer from push polling was meant in the context of a discussion about Farrar's other political activities. i happily withdraw it if Curia's ethic is in no way related to that evinced by kiwiblog.</p><p><em>Market Research Society of New Zealand</em> forbids push…</p>
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				<title>Malcolm</title>
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						<p><em>"did you know he also has a political polling company ... can you imagine how push polling they are? "</em></p><p>Riddley, you may not realise it, but this comment impugns DPF's professional ethics.  He is a member of the Market Research Society of New Zealand, which forbids such practices.  Bear…</p>
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				<title>Nobody Important</title>
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						<blockquote><p>He has never apologised to the women creche workers.</p></blockquote><p>And while he's at it he could apologise to Ellis as well. Oh that's right, a jury found him quilty so he must be.</p><blockquote><p>Why do you think that you weren't informed that the protest you were in was going to…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Lambert</title>
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						By "getting love from the public", I don't mean anything gross...unfortunate turn of phrase on my part.
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				<title>Riddley Walker</title>
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						<p><em>DPF, I get the impression that he's had little-to-no time </em></p><p>he's busy alright, and not just with T&amp;A stories and feeding meat to his pack.</p><p>did you know he also has a political polling company called <strong>Curia</strong>? can you imagine how push polling they are?</p><p>an acquaintance was surveyed by…</p>
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				<title>Lambert</title>
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						<p>Some cops are bastards. And there's no denying the Police culture has been, and probably still is to a lesser degree, sexist, macho and clannish.</p><p>But as someone who has a respected relative who's been in the force for a long time, and a friend who recently left after a…</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>As for Howard Broad and his *sincere* apology on behalf of all women, well, I don't believe it for a second. Let's recall what Lynley Hood published on Scoop on April 5 2006.</p></blockquote><p>I was interested to hear what Lynley Hood's book said about Howard Broad. My memory of his…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Rob, the two views aren't mutually exclusive. There was a hard left element that set out to orchestrate confrontations with the police because of their own domestic political agenda that had nothing to do with apartheid.</p></blockquote><p>I think there were various sorts of people who took the chance to have…</p>
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						<p>Just for the record &ndash; David Farrar does moderate and delete inappropriate comments as he has done today regarding my comments that I made about the Prime Minister and her marriage. It is totally unfair to say that he does not control the often-derogatory comments.Get your facts straight !</p><p>I…</p>
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						<p>Rob, the two views aren't mutually exclusive. There was a hard left element that set out to orchestrate confrontations with the police because of their own domestic political agenda that had nothing to do with apartheid.</p><p>But I suppose I'm just tired of the "I was a protestor so I…</p>
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						<p>As for Howard Broad and his *sincere* apology on behalf of all women, well, I don't believe it for a second. Let's recall what Lynley Hood published on Scoop on April 5 2006.</p><p>"On Thurs 1 October 1992, Detective Inspector Howard Broad of Christchurch announced to a packed press conference…</p>
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						<p>From the NZ Herald 3 April:</p><p>* Twelve police officers were found to be victims of false allegations</p><p>* Twenty police officers were charged and acquitted </p><p>* Two police officers were charged and committed suicide</p><p>* 129 officers had complaints made against them that were not<br />upheld </p><p>So potentially quite…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>That was the intention of many of the protest organisers which didn't really have much to do with fighting apartheid I suppose. The thinking was &ndash; provoke a fight with the police and then ordinary NZers will rise up and overthrow the oppressors.</p></blockquote><p>Actually, Neil (just as a matter of…</p>
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						<p>I think it's Craig's idea of a joke (ho ho). I couldn't help but notice that he can spell Torquemada's name correctly but not mine &ndash; that says something but I'm not quite sure what. </p><p>Wandering back to the original topic, the Herald have an interesting article on the extremely…</p>
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						<p>I wonder if we could have a gentle persons' agreement to quit linking to the comments thread at kiwiblog. It is just too distracting. Bit of a bugger that because it is good to get David Farrar's views on things which are never boring and sometimes surprising.</p><p>A propos Danyl…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>As someone else said earlier: the 81 Springbok Tour was when the middle class learnt the cops were actually bastards ...</p></blockquote><p>That was <em>the</em> intention of many of the protest organisers which didn't really have much to do with fighting apartheid I suppose. The thinking was &ndash; provoke a fight…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Wow. That is banal. And quite the crowd in there too.</p></blockquote><p><cough> a lot less cramped for space at the subsequent Mr World thread.</cough></p><p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/04/equal_opportunity_blogging.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/04/equal_opportunity_blogging.html</a></p>
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						<p>Daryl:</p><p>If we want to talk about irony marinade, I'd be quite happy to enter into a dialogue about folks who crank up the faux outrage when they go out to provoke a brawl and get exactly what they're looking for.  You're far from the worse offender over at Kiwibog,…</p>
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						<p>By the bye, I note the Herald has a few stories on the report but their headlines (until about 2 minutes ago) referred to the "Balzey Report" . </p><p>Typo or Fruedian slip?</p><p>;-)</p>
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						<blockquote><p>This is why we need civil liberties for criminals. If we let cops do what they want with crims, pretty soon some of them will do what they want with the rest of us. Or at least those of us who are too vulnerable to sustain a complaint.</p></blockquote><p>Malcolm, you've…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>I think there's a certain amount of preciousness going on. I'm planning to reactivate my long dormant blog, and if you don't like my comments policy and how I apply it please feel free to go elsewhere.</p></blockquote><p>Thanks Craig, but I think I'll just pick the 'go elsewhere' option upfront.…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Was anyone here ever at the receiving end of the Red Squad in '81?</p></blockquote><p>Yup! I was marching with (I think) the Biko Group, a few rows back. Suddenly wooden shields were being passed along my row; and then everyone in front turned left to confront one Police line while…</p>
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						<p><em>Oh the power of Google!!</em></p><p>As a result of the above posts my interest was piqued so I clicked onto Kiwiblog which led me to another of his items ... about SpareRoom and their cryptic story about a former TVNZ worker that DPS wouldn't comment on ....which led me to…</p>
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						<p>*Edit | Undo *</p><blockquote><p>If we let cops do what they want with crims, pretty soon some of them will do what they want with the rest of us. Or at least those of us who are too vulnerable to sustain a complaint.</p></blockquote><p>Was anyone here ever at the receiving…</p>
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						<p><quote?If we let cops do what they want with crims, pretty soon some of them will do what they want with the rest of us. Or at least those of us who are too vulnerable to sustain a complaint.</p></blockquote><p>Was anyone here ever at the receiving end of the Red Squad in '81? There'll always be a select few who dearly wish that Ross Meurant is in Howard Broad's seat.</p>
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						<p>Daryl:</p><p>Um, I think you went a lot further than that &ndash; and, anyway, I think there's a certain amount of preciousness going on.  I'm planning to reactivate my long dormant blog, and if you don't like my comments policy and how I apply it please feel free to go…</p>
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						<p>I've gotta stand up for DPF here &ndash; he does exercise some control over the contents of his threads &ndash; for example <a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/03/priceless_1.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">he banned me from his site</a> when I suggested it was, uh, sexist. </p><p>So there is some comments moderation after all ;-)</p>
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						<blockquote><p>A busy boy with more pressing matters:<br /><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/04/twins_1.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/04/twins_1.html</a><br />Seems to be no risk of being kicked out of bed for farting at Kiwiblog.</p></blockquote><p>Wow. That <em>is</em> banal. And quite the crowd in there too.</p>
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						<p><em>BTW &ndash; I only saw a minute or two on the news, but I thought John Key's criticism of Howard Broad, as if he'd been personally responsible for lack of change to the culture in the last 30 years pretty ripe.</em></p><p>Andrew, to be fair, I'll make two observations:</p><p>1)…</p>
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						<p>yeah... but kiwiblog is the basis of his public persona. you'd think he'd hire at least one money to ensure it keeps a decent standard of comments.</p><p>and to be honest, he frequently throws meat to the pack.</p><p>some of his islamic/maori dogwhistles have been, quite frankly, disgusting.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>To be fair to DPF, I get the impression that he's had little-to-no time for comment moderation.</p></blockquote><p>A busy boy with more pressing matters:<br /><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/04/twins_1.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/04/twins_1.html</a><br />Seems to be no risk of being kicked out of bed for farting at Kiwiblog.</p>
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						To be fair to DPF, I get the impression that he's had little-to-no time for comment moderation. It doesn't take long for the bad to drive out the good. When you factor in that he has explicit party affiliations and a high profile, that makes his blog a troll magnet.…
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						<p>Cops are only wankers if you're not on their side. Mostly they're nice enough.</p><p>As a kid I was insulted by one for (you choose) a) not stopping quick enough to his confusing hand signals or b) being taller than him when I got out of the car.</p><p>In Ozzie…</p>
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						<p>I agree Donna with everything you say, I have thought about it alot, and feel that Mr Farrar may be a somewhat Mephistopholean character.<br />I am reminded of the film Colonel Redl, or Faust.</p>
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				<title>Donna Ackroyd</title>
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						<p><em>Wow, that thread on kiwiblog is something else...1 minutes worth of spittle was too much to handle.</em></p><p>It's a shame. I used to read the Kiwiblog comments every day. Even though I never contributed I enjoyed the back and forth of debate. </p><p>Now I'm afraid to even open the comments…</p>
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						<p><em>Is everyone watching Life on Mars BTW</em></p><p>yeah, a great opinion primer for the report.</p><p><em>Police don't have a standardised HR system</em></p><p>probably. you should see the legislation around who employs, directs and censures the Commissioner of Police &ndash; it's a can of worms like you wouldn't believe could exist…</p>
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						Is it true that the Police don't have a standardised HR system in place?
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						Is everyone watching Life on Mars BTW?
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						<p>About 3 years ago we got some hardware nicked out of the storeroom at work. As the section manager I had to go to the local police station and make a statement to the detective in charge of the case.</p><p>I was led up to the 2nd floor of the…</p>
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						<p>__"would have started a lot of young police recruits to question what they were doing, how they were doing it, and how they were perceived by Joe Public"</p><p>From my unscientific sample of one young police officer of my acquaintance, this is true. Unfortunately he was drummed out of the…</p>
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				<title>Ben Austin</title>
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						<p>I guess I've been pretty lucky so far. My experiences with the police are all pretty good. Not that I'm really in much contact with them due to my pious nature.</p><p>Although they do ask some pretty searching quesitons when one applies for an arms licence.</p>
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						Wow, that thread on kiwiblog is something else...1 minutes worth of spittle was too much to handle.
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						<p>I suppose the crowd being talked about is the same one that now make fine private dicks (eye!). Following the PM and her husband ministers and MPs around, lying on public radio and tv and breathlessly threatening to make Government ending revelations every second week.</p><p>That's some MO building up.</p>
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				<title>Morgan Nichol</title>
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						<p>My perception of the police changed premanently when I (foolishly, I guess, but I was a baggy trousered 15 yr old) had a (small, folding) pocket knife on me on the way into a concert.</p><p>The woman at the gate gave me a ticket to get it back on the…</p>
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						<p>bit of (non-)anonymous bleating and umbrage <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10432493" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">here</a>.</p><p>i should reiterate. i've <a href="http://www.publicaddress.net/default,2198.sm#post2198" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">read</a> a great number of the same files bazley has.</p><p>my opinion of the police was low before that job. it was shored up by the great people i got to work with on that short-term contract, but was…</p>
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				<title>Tony Kennedy</title>
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						<p>surely not the same D4J that features down at misogyny corner ....</p><blockquote><p>Yes the plight of men does look to make the endangered list ( eunuchs , homosexuals and girlymen are ok -eh H2, B1 and K1 ), as Supreme Leader cranks the "ism " up another notch</p></blockquote><p>ya right…</p>
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						<p>Since it's become the thing to do, I'm going to share my encounter with corrupt sexual attitudes among older police officers.</p><p>At the excellent It's in the Bag at AK05, as reinvented by Havoc, Newsboy and Oliver Driver, I was sitting behind a noted senior detective who shall remain nameless.…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>However I don't agree that providing complainants with anonymity had a dampening effect on the media. I saw both print and TV examples along the lines of "Look, the report says this terrible thing happened in 1983, and another terrible thing here in 1985, and yet another in 1986..."</p></blockquote><p>Of…</p>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						<p>I must admit I too have been wondering about the effect of police training during the '81 tour ....</p><p>But it could also be that the cause is more that because the police visibly took sides in such a contentious political issue, more than just enforcing the law but publically…</p>
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Sorry Andrew I must side with Mr Key’s correct comments</p></blockquote><p>That's cool D4J, like I say, I only saw a snippet.</p><blockquote><p>We must as a society be able to trust police as honourable persons of integrity.I hope they can sort all their problems out .</p></blockquote><p>Amen.</p>
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						<p>Andrew said "BTW &ndash; I only saw a minute or two on the news, but I thought John Key's criticism of Howard Broad, as if he'd been personally responsible for lack of change to the culture in the last 30 years pretty ripe."</p><p>Sorry Andrew I must side with Mr…</p>
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						In light of some of the more lurid aspects of DMB's report, the catchline on the police ad at the top of the page: "Hear some great work stories", seems disturbingly appropriate.
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						BTW &ndash; I only saw a minute or two on the news, but I thought John Key's criticism of Howard Broad, as if he'd been personally responsible for lack of change to the culture in the last 30 years pretty ripe.
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						<p>Having been to the lock-up yesterday and read the report pretty much right through, I agree that the report seemed largely positive, and the Government certainly jumped on the rest by saying it agreed with, and would implement as quickly as possible, all 60 of DMB's recommendations.</p><p>However I don't…</p>
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						<p>You again!</p><p>"would have started a lot of young police recruits to question what they were doing, how they were doing it, and how they were perceived by Joe Public"</p><p>From my unscientific sample of one young police officer of my acquaintance, this is true. Unfortunately he was drummed out…</p>
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						<p>RB</p><p>I'd argue that the seeds for cultural change in the police force were likely planted even earlier, during the Springbok tour in 1981.</p><p>While the likes of the Red Squad certainly weren't changing their colours in a hurry, the sheer social division caused by the tour I am sure…</p>
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