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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The monster of a dot matrix printer, so loud it needed a special sound proof shield and ideally its own room.</p></blockquote><p>Hiya Richard.....even more of a shock to me about 6 years ago was looking at buying a point of sale system and being told by the salesman that it…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:56:05 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Richard Ram</title>
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						<p>My ears were burning</p><p>Ah those were heady days… your post Simon also reminded me of the state of technology of the time, esp at Flying Nun.</p><p>The monster of a dot matrix printer, so loud it needed a special sound proof shield and ideally its own room. The lengthy…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 09:10:02 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>InternationalObserver</title>
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						<blockquote>How boring was Playboy.com without the pics</blockquote>Even with the pics it's pretty boring. For sexy time try www.fistsoffury.com
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				<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 00:23:43 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Compie</title>
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						I remember Netscape (or something) back at Vic in 1994.  How boring was Playboy.com without the pics (couldn't load images frokm any site) and everything in black and white.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 23:42:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jan Zane</title>
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						Certainly, it is time we (doctors and responsible citizens) addressed the availability of anti-depressants and the alacrity with which we turn to them for relief as a 'quick-fix' when it may be a useless action at best, and a dangerous one at worst.  However, as the body of research over…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:10:33 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Amy Gale</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Kim Scheinberg and I used that very laptop to give a presentation in the Michael Fowler Centre about this amazing new thing called the world wide web. It would have been 1995 or 1996.</p></blockquote><p>Ah, just a few short years after Nat Torkington and I gave a presentation around the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 11:06:38 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>slarty</title>
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						I got so misty eyed at this I went and fired up my Macintosh (note that it has no letters after the name), plugged in the widget I acquired in 1992 and loaded the IP stack, put in the floppy with the browser on it (having ejected the one with…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 09:03:24 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>He told me it had been highly irresponsible of me to be saying such things. I wonder what he's doing now.</p></blockquote><p>Yes, I remember in 1995 my boss at the time asking whether this Internet thing was really going to amount to anything. </p><p>Smart guy, just didn't quite get the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 08:48:43 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>David Slack</title>
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						<p>I can join those threads in a further way.</p><p>Kim Scheinberg and I used that very laptop to give a presentation in the Michael Fowler Centre about this amazing new thing called the world wide web. It would have been 1995 or 1996. Some kind of computer world conference. We…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 08:34:36 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Adrian Wills</title>
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						<blockquote><p>While everyone is busy being geeks, does anyone know of a touch typing tutor suitable for our nine year old? For a Mac, of course.</p></blockquote><p><a href="http://www.smartkidssoftware.com/cdswt4.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.smartkidssoftware.com/cdswt4.htm</a></p><p>Mavis Beacon was what I learnt on when I was 12-13, didn't even have a computer at home to practice on until I was…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 08:16:32 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>nic.wise</title>
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						<p>Hows this for joining two threads:</p><p>the first mac I hever "had" outside of the ones we used at uni was a Powerbook 100 (even if it was just for a weekend), on OS8 or OS9:</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerBook_100" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerBook_100</a></p><p>... owned by one Kim Schienberg (sp?).....</p><p>As for joining the threads -…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 03:30:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Deborah</title>
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						While everyone is busy being geeks, does anyone know of a touch typing tutor suitable for our nine year old?  For a Mac, of course.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 23:36:34 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ben Austin</title>
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						I remember a friend who worked for Vodafone telling us about a person had signed up for global roaming for data then went overseas and proceeded to download over a gb of data (auto updates?), this back about three-four years ago when data roaming charges met the definition of horrible.…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:41:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I well remember when I first discovered puters which was the same time as the World Wide Web really became populist in NZ (about 1995, I think).</p></blockquote><p>I once read that if you ask people what was the year that the web went from being a niche experience for geeks…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:31:39 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>nic.wise</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I sometimes like to amuse myself by totting up what my current monthly usage would have cost me back in the old days. 60GB a month, anyone?</p></blockquote><p>Um, something similar to what it would cost if you got 60GB thru Telecom or Vodafone?</p><p>;-)</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:10:51 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ben Austin</title>
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						I do love the idea of the Safari live screen capture feature but aside from having made myself a gmail window for Dashboard I haven't found a use for it either.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:03:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>You were lucky!</p></blockquote><p>Yeah, my boss made me use IE, because we were a Microsoft Development Partner (I think that was the title you got if you purchased their development environment and had actually sold some software). That was when I was working for <em>no pay</em>. Ah, the 90s, the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 19:48:42 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jimmy Southgate</title>
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						<blockquote><p>One feature which looks cool but hasn't turned out to be much use to me is that you can select part of a page and have it display, live, in Dashboard.</p></blockquote><p>This sounds really good to me too, i've used it to take a clipping of the metservice forecast for…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 19:11:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>You can probably do this trick which involves the a single keystroke before you can begin dragging and dropping</p></blockquote><p>Good point. the iMac had Firewire ports really early, so there's a good chance I/O's Mac will have one, and thus be able to go into Fire Target Disk Mode.</p><p>But…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:13:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>We used to work, down the mine, week in week out for tuppence a fortnight and when we got home our dad would make us use Netscape.</p></blockquote><p>You were <em>lucky</em>!</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:09:36 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>hamishm</title>
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						We used to work, down the mine, week in week out for tuppence a fortnight and when we got home our dad would make us use Netscape.
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						<blockquote>I don't use Firefox much &mdash; yes, it's flexible, but Safari 3.0 is faster and funkier and I'm still just an Apple fanboy.</blockquote> I use Firefox at home on the PC and at work on the applebook. Not so keen on Safari, but I guess it's what you're used to.…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 17:08:54 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Sounds like you want to migrate you old files over. Do a search for the "migration assistant" on the new computer.</p></blockquote><p>Nah &mdash; I'm pretty sure the migration assistant (modern marvel that it is) is MacOS X-only. And even if not, it's too late now that I/O has been using…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 17:08:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>As we speak, Bill Gates' minions are winging their way to Bali to give you a right kicking. Save yourself and point the finger at Shepherd.</p></blockquote><p>yep the BSA has hell of a pull in Bali, or anywhere in SEA to be sure.</p><p>Survey last year said that 87% of…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:46:33 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>david w</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Isn't that why we buy Macs &ndash; everything can be done by either clicking or dragging and dropping?</p></blockquote><p>You can probably do  <a href="http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58583" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this trick</a> which involves the a single keystroke before you can begin dragging and dropping</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:43:24 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						<blockquote><p>BTW and this is dreadfully off topic, can anyone tell me how the Phoenix Foundation/Lawrence Arabia show at the Zoo went a couple of weeks back?</p></blockquote><p>Rather 4th hand (my brother's, whose band in London will be supporting Lawrence Arabia's UK tour, heard from a friend locally) but I hear…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>While Russell is working out how much he would pay for his 60GB a month habit, he might also work out what a brand new MacBook Air would have set you back ten years ago &mdash; and how it much it would have weighed.</p></blockquote><p>Did you ever set eyes on…</p>
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				<title>Hamboy</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Er. "hardly ever crash". Wee slip.</ quote><br />You sure?<br />I find it quite crash happy on my home PC. The updates that they made almost daily about a month ago would break the Quicktime plugin and anytime it saw a quicktime file in a web page it'll crash.<br />And the version…</p>
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				<title>richard</title>
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						I remember my office mate downloading the source code to Mosaic and compiling it on a Sun 3 workstation.   I think it must have been late 1993, as I was close to the end of my PhD &mdash; it was enormously cool, even if there was nothing much to see...…
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				<title>range</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Kinda. I tried plugging in a cable from my old Mac to the new one but I couldn't drag and drop them over. Isn't that why we buy Macs &ndash; everything can be done by either clicking or dragging and dropping?</p></blockquote><p>Sounds like you want to migrate you old files…</p>
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				<title>InternationalObserver</title>
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						<blockquote>It was Richard too that arranged for Flying Nun and us to jointly source and pay for an edition of Office, which we installed in both offices.</blockquote>As we speak, Bill Gates' minions are winging their way to Bali to give you a right kicking. Save yourself and point the finger…
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						I remember when you opened the first version of IE it asked you if you wanted to import bookmarks from Netscape.  If you clicked yes, it did this and then deleted them from Netscape.  I can still remember how p..ed off I was.
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				<title>Andrew Smith</title>
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						<p>You probably don't want to go through all the 'John Key' stuff again from yesterday, however, I just thought I'd get an answer from John Key on his 'wages' statement. His email response is: </p><p>"The statement is simply not correct. I have been misreported. The paper has no tape didn't…</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It also, since it's open source and very robust, crash.</p></blockquote><p>Er. "hardly ever crash". Wee slip.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:17:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Seems to work fine, but if you think I should go back to Safari??</p></blockquote><p>It's really a bit of personal preference. I use firefox because I found safari gets slower as time goes on. Also, the plug-ins for Firefox... some real gems. There's one which brings it up close to…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:17:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>BTW and this is dreadfully off topic, can anyone tell me how the Phoenix Foundation/Lawrence Arabia show at the Zoo went a couple of weeks back?</p></blockquote><p>I gather it was a delight.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:09:24 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote>Richard was the great provider for quite a few of us. He used to come over to my High Street office in the early 90s and sit over coffee explaining the future. He installed my first modem (9600kbs) on my recently upgraded 486 which allowed me to tap into the…</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:08:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Charles Mabbett</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:07:15 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Charles Mabbett</title>
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						BTW and this is dreadfully off topic, can anyone tell me how the Phoenix Foundation/Lawrence Arabia show at the Zoo went a couple of weeks back?
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:05:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Richard Ram</p></blockquote><p>Richard was the great provider for quite a few of us. He used to come over to my High Street office in the early 90s and sit over coffee explaining the future. He installed my first modem (9600kbs) on my recently upgraded 486 which allowed me to tap…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:56:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Charles Mabbett</title>
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						Thanks. I hope he's well.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:50:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I remember Richard Ram. Whatever became of him? Do you know Russell?</p></blockquote><p>He's working for Shift in Auckland. I went to the rugby with him t'other week. He remains a man of mystery ...</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:47:29 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Charles Mabbett</title>
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						I remember Richard Ram. Whatever became of him? Do you know Russell?
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:46:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Oh I didn't mean the torrenting. When I get home I'll start downloading Ducks vs Blackhawks from last night. It's the figuring out your current usage in 1995 costings that was more of a concern.</p></blockquote><p>It's not hard like, say, costing tax cuts. Just 60,000MB at $10 a megabyte ...</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:45:56 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote>Eh? Is this true? I know nothing about Macs (I just bought one and it ... heh heh .. worked) but I was reliably informed (or ...not!) that Firefox was better than Safari so I've been using that since I bought my new Intel chip OSX Tiger (Leopard's the new…</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:43:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>So far on PAS I've been typing 'draw dropper' instead of 'jaw dropper', 'put' instead of 'bought', 'seaman' instead of 'salesman' and sundry other typos. Am I about to get a heart attack?</p></blockquote><p>No, it's a necessary step on the road to true keyboard fluency. When the hands do their…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:30:29 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>david w</title>
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						<blockquote><p>This "world" thing &mdash; is there a torrent for that?</p></blockquote><p>I wouldn't bother, HD has much better resolution...</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:06:43 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>InternationalObserver</title>
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						<blockquote>I don't use Firefox much &mdash; yes, it's flexible, but Safari 3.0 is faster and funkier and I'm still just an Apple fanboy.</blockquote>Eh? Is this true? I know nothing about Macs (I just bought one and it ... heh heh .. <em>worked</em>) but I was reliably informed (or ...<em><strong>not</strong></em>!) that…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:01:33 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It's very easy to rack up many gigs by setting up bittorrent downloads of movies and TV shows and letting them go at night while you're asleep, or during the day when you're out. (And I'm sure having teenagers in the household contributes too)</p><p>It's not quite the sign of…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:00:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Damen</title>
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						<p>On the topic of browsers and PicLens &ndash; it's available for Safari as well:<br /><a href="http://www.piclens.com/site/safari/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.piclens.com/site/safari/</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 13:25:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Thomas Johnson</title>
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						<p>Alway used to be some entertaining reading at <a href="http:www.jwz.org">jwz.org</a> (including one of the niftiest front pages I've seen in a long time). </p><p>Inside can be found tales of<a href="http://www.jwz.org/tent-of-doom/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> early times</a> at Netscape &ndash; see Cries For Help.</p><p>You might like to check out his blog too, but be aware that…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 13:24:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joanna</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Seriously. Get out more dude. There's a whole world out there waiting for you.</p></blockquote><p>Was it Amy Hoy or Kathy Sierra who had a slide with a tshirt that said "I went outside once. The graphics weren't that good"?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 13:14:29 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Gabor Toth</title>
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						<p>Back in early 1995 I had just begun my Political Science honours year at V.U.W. <br />A friend had discovered the university's Computer Science department had just decided to offer "free" dial-up internet access to Post Grads. The Comp Sci folk didn't exactly publicise this fact  though most students and staff…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 13:01:09 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Seriously. Get out more dude. There's a whole world out there waiting for you.</p></blockquote><p>This "world" thing &mdash; is there a torrent for that?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:54:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<blockquote><p><em>I sometimes like to amuse myself by totting up what my current monthly usage would have cost me back in the old days. 60GB a month, anyone?</em></p><p>Seriously. Get out more dude. There's a whole world out there waiting for you.</p></blockquote><p>It's very easy to rack up many gigs by…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:37:09 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>I thought Firefox *was* Netscape version N?</p><p>(My eyes glaze over when I see an explanation of open source politics).</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:28:10 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I sometimes like to amuse myself by totting up what my current monthly usage would have cost me back in the old days. 60GB a month, anyone?</p></blockquote><p>Seriously. Get out more dude. There's a whole world out there waiting for you.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:19:05 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						<p>Between Netscape and Firefox came Mozilla. Used it for a long time on my desktop. Funny thing, since Firefox's obvious success in grabbing Microsoft has reassembled its IE team and made 3 major releases. They have also moved back into standards compliant mode which is a boon for developers.</p><p>Competition,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:17:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Adrian Wills</title>
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						<p>Ha ha... just tried to give the emulator a go and got the message:</p><blockquote><p>Sorry, due to heavy load on the server, browsing is quite slow.<br />On the positive side, it makes the experience even more authentic...</p></blockquote><p>Awesome!</p><p>As a web developer, must say thanks for the reference to downloading…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:12:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<blockquote><p>(If anyone can &ndash; ahem burn me a copy of their album, it'd be appreciated. :)</p></blockquote><p>You should know that such a group will have an international fanboy following and will have <a href="http://kiwitapes.blogspot.com/2007/06/wreck-small-speakers-on-expensive.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">ended up on an mp3 blog</a>.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:12:37 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Grant McDougall</title>
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						<blockquote><p>...my buddy Richard Ram...</p></blockquote><p>Wreck Small Speakers On Expensive Stereos!!!</p><p>(If anyone can &ndash; <em>ahem</em> burn me a copy of their album, it'd be appreciated. :)</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:04:57 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Scott Fannen</title>
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						I jumped when ihug launched the unlimited data plan ( I was one of the suckers on Apple eWorld!) and remember dragging my Mac into the Newton Road office of ihug (when it was one room) and dialling up from their room so we could figure out how to configure…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:56:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<p>I just checked my website stats &ndash; in the last six months, I had seven visitors using Netscape, and they all looked like one-off visits.</p><p>I fondly remember when I first used Netscape back in '95 &ndash; the version with the blocky 'N' that pulsated to let you know it…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:51:33 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Dave Patrick</title>
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						I joined IHUG back in the day when they started their "unlimited data" offers on dial-up ("14.4k modem &ndash; knock yourself out, download as much as you like"). Netscape was the only browser I used back then, and until version 4 it still was. But 4 was just too much…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:44:50 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Ah, the days of ICONZ (before it became Asia Online then back to ICONZ again), $10/meg and $50/meg for email.</p></blockquote><p>I sometimes like to amuse myself by totting up what my current monthly usage would have cost me back in the old days. 60GB a month, anyone?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:39:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						I still use Netscape for my POP mail too. But that's mainly because I don't use mail so I can't be stuffed changing. I basically use Hotmail, with Firefox. Oh, the irony.
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				<title>Michael Stevens</title>
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						<p>Ah, good old netscape. Good times, good times...<br />I liked it. And I can remember coming back to Auckland Uni one year and finding that all the PCs in the labs had suddenly moved from Netscape to explorer.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:19:53 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>nic.wise</title>
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						<blockquote> I remember Netscape's arrival. Word got about (well, my buddy Richard Ram told me) in late 1994 that a new, much faster version of the NCSA Mosaic graphical web browser was on the way. It duly arrived. You could download it (good lord, the beta was nearly a whole megabyte!).…</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:09:57 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						I still have Netscape and sometimes use it if other browsers don't work. But that's almost never these days.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 10:36:15 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Che Tibby</title>
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						<p>i too loved netscape.</p><p>internet explorer was, is, and always will be, poo.</p><p>i'm proud to say firefox is the only PC app i'll use.</p><p>unless communicating with microsoft to download updates and the like. because they won't talk with anyone else...</p><p>d.i.c.k.s</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 10:31:40 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hamboy</title>
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						<p>Net who?<br />I thought it died a long time ago. lol</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 10:26:54 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Public Address</title>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 10:26:54 +1300</pubDate>
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