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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Transportblog has a post on Waterview <a href="http://transportblog.co.nz/2013/01/25/waterview-connection-construction-gathers-pace/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">construction progress</a> featuring Russell's photos, large size.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 10:15:48 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						<p><q>they then bore themselves a grave once the project is completed</q><br />What a sad mental image that is...</p><p>And while I agree the issues and upfront costs with ferries are probably substantial, they are such a great way to get work &ndash; having just moved into a ferry-served suburb I've…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 13:54:41 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Damian Christie</title>
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						<p>I certainly hope your little stretch of SH16 will be busier &ndash; because I'm intending to use it every time I head into town. In um, four years.</p><p>I'm right at the end of the current SH20 in New Windsor.  It's 12 minutes-ish to the airport. Not sure what the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 11:43:21 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Bill McKay</title>
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						<p>Tunnel Talk has some interesting details see:<br /><a href="http://www.tunneltalk.com/New-Zealand-Aug11-Award-of-the-Waterview-Project-in-Auckland.php" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.tunneltalk.com/New-Zealand-Aug11-Award-of-the-Waterview-Project-in-Auckland.php</a><br />and scroll down to paragraphs Tunnel Specs and Tunnel Design. The Waterview machine is a big one by world standards, rail tunnels are smaller. This TBM will bore south to north for one set of lanes, be disassembled and rebuilt facing the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2013 17:06:11 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						Indeed, though I can sympathise with the difficulties of trying to even start designing a one-size-fits-all TBM. You still have to change drill bits to make different size holes with a domestic drill, and with a TBM the whole machine is the bit.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2013 12:59:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						What an outstandingly convenient business model.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2013 12:54:49 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						TBMs are generally designed and built for a specific project, which is why they then bore themselves a grave once the project is completed. The costs of recovering and relocating are massive, and it’s rare that there’s another project in the vicinity with the same parameters as the project for…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2013 12:49:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Cameron Pitches</title>
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						<p>From the Herald:<br /><q> where a $54 million boring machine will arrive in parts from China in June or July to be assembled before spending a year from October digging the first tunnel.</q><br />... the obvious thing to do when that tunnel is finished would be to move the tunnel boring…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2013 23:04:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>The next project will be the City Rail Link, and it’s already bitter and nasty. Steven turned on Auckland Council, and now Gerry is turning on his own advisers.</q></p><p>Not to mention business leaders like Michael Barnett and Alex Swney who are openly in support of the CRL.</p><p>Meanwhile, the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2013 12:03:09 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>Now can we please reach the same good compromise for the next project without having the bitter nasty fights along the way?</q></p><p>The next project will be the City Rail Link, and it's already bitter and nasty. Steven turned on Auckland Council, and now Gerry is turning on his own…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 15:41:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>Now can we please reach the same good compromise for the next project without having the bitter nasty fights along the way?</q></p><p>That will require those with power and resources to change their <a href="http://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-waterview-bore/?p=279688#post279688" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">attitudes and behaviour</a>.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 11:24:33 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>The project is a monster, but not as monstrous as it could have been!</q></p><p>What I have found interesting is the way the whole project has evolved over the decades. For the 40 something years I've lived in Auckland it has always been known that a motorway would run through…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 11:18:15 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>NZTA were not keen on funding the 2.4 km of cycleway parallel to the tunnel, which would have left a gap between its (proposed) termination in the middle of Alan Wood Park and Point Chevalier. </q></p><p>That would have been royally stupid.</p><p><q>Thankfully, NZTA were required to fund Auckland Council/Auckland Transport…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 11:04:34 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						Thanks for this, Duncan &mdash; very informative. And thanks also for the work you've put into taming the monster!
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 10:53:54 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Duncan McKenzie</title>
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						I was the planner for the community groups that were responsible for persuading the Board of Inquiry for the Waterview Connection to get serious improvements to the project.  I also live close to the southern end of the project (near Alan Wood Park) and I continue to be involved with…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 10:20:55 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Andrew C</title>
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						<p><q>Those are quite serious hurdles.</q><br />Not to mention the fact that I can often count on one finger the number of off-peak passengers traveling with me on the ferry to Birkenhead.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 08:28:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Christopher Dempsey</title>
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						<p>In my official capacity as Chair of the (former) Eden Albert Community Board, (and on the promptings of Mr Arbury) I wrote to NZTA and Council officers querying the lack of a bus way on SH16.</p><p>The reply was that because the rail line was so near, it was not…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2013 18:53:41 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>Can't believe there is no integration between Great North Road/Pt Chev intersection and the Waterview connection</q></p><p>Someone like Joshua can confirm but I think they're trying to separate motorway from local traffic &ndash; or Pt Chev would be full of people taking shortcuts to and from the even-busier motorway.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:51:37 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hugh Sundae</title>
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						Can't believe there is no integration between Great North Road/Pt Chev intersection and the Waterview connection. I'm reminded of the decision to make people walk from Britomart to Vector instead of just putting a stop there.
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						While I’m not opposed to TGM per se, there’s been little scrutiny as to why it managed to more than double in cost projection in a few years. And somehow it’s more than just factoring in quake-proofing. The single biggest disagreement more than anything else is who foots the bill.…
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				<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2013 12:10:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						I support the <em>concept</em> of TG, but the implementation is unsupportable on economic grounds. A project needs to be more than just a good idea, particularly when it's massively expensive and the country supposedly doesn't have bottomless pots of money.
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				<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2013 11:39:02 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p>I noticed in today's DomPost letters page that a certain Helen R. Hughes &ndash; NZ's first Parliamentary Commissioner for the Environment (1987-96) &ndash; supports Transmission Gully.</p><p>Confusingly, she shares her name with two unrelated people: a <a href="http://www.libertarianz.org.nz/helen-hughes/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Libertarianz candidate</a> living in the Far North, and a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helen_Hughes|board member of the Centre…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2013 11:21:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						Looks like you've spotted the Queen Privet of Auckland there, too, which will soon be sending it's allergens along 5 major routes, and 2 cycleways.
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				<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2013 08:29:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>Lettuce see icebergs…</strong><br /><q>As for Bronagh, it is an official visit.</q><br />Oh of course,  visiting sovereign states… she’ll be able to chat with the Queen of Antarctica, or the Prime Minister of Antarctica’s partner and attend the endless round of soirees in and about the ‘meltway’ – I’m not convinced!</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2013 06:57:10 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joshua Arbury</title>
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						Roger, yes the section from Dominion Road to Onehunga is very difficult and expensive. The section between Dominion Road and the Western Line is easy and cheap and with new stations at Stoddard Road and Dominion Road could be a really nifty little addition to the rail network &ndash; one…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 22:21:54 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						Ah. This is a better pic of the north end.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 20:35:56 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>DexterX</title>
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						The Herald, today on the way out I picked it up looked at the front page and put it back in the box, what surprises me is here was actually some journalism in today's, Friday's, issue.
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q> <em>Alan Wood Reserve</em></p><p>Don’t know the area, but wondered where the kids from around there will gather and play now.</q></p><p>Most likely at the new 1400m square skate park on Richardson Road, or the new sports fields (replacing two old ones) or lookout point. The land was pretty scrappy and…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 18:43:32 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>LouisM</title>
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						The Western Ring Route project has divided me. Huge amounts of money have been spent on motorways in this country and it's time to stop. Having said that I can see the benefits of the Waterview Connection that it can divert traffic away from the city centre area. Frankly this…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 18:41:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p>Great shot! I'm a little jealous of this round, was planning to chuck a photoessay of all this work on Capture, but an infected knee kept me off the bike for a whole week.</p><p>I've been watching this development since it began, since I traverse Gt North Rd constantly, and…</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>Or there'd have to be a very expensive dredging operation to create and maintain a channel. </q></p><p>It's only 800m to the existing channel coming out of West Park marina, from the tip of Te Atatu Peninsular. At the south end, there's a channel all the way to Te Atatu Bridge,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 18:00:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Roger</title>
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						<p><q>The Avondale-Southdown railway line may actually be needed ... It'd be a pretty cheap extension to the rail network post CRL that could generate significant rail patronage.</q></p><p>Actually no, the section of the designation climbing up from Onehuna is way too steep for normal trains (although electric can manage a…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 17:57:54 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>Or an Ekranoplan service.</q></p><p>That's pretty awesome, but I'm not sure it's really practical for a distance of roughly 11km.</p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						That's true, though with Auckland Airport rescue fire boasting that they operate the only hovercraft in NZ I'm not convinced there's the local knowledge and expertise to run an operation that would need at least two hovercraft, probably three.
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				<title>Angus Robertson</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:59:21 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ross Mason</title>
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						<p>Looking at the 3D overfly graphic it looks like it probably was made in America, given the number of cars that travel in the right hand lane.</p><p>Silly me, no, it is an Auckland thing. Keep left? Yeah right!</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:57:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hovertravel" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Hovercraft</a> might be a solution. Need a beach or ramp at both ends of the journey, though.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:50:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						Ferries are actually quite hard. Te Atatu Peninsula cries out for a ferry, for example, but a pier would have to be built out a very long way in order to offer sufficient water depth at all times. Or there'd have to be a very expensive dredging operation to create…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:34:37 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>Alan Wood Reserve</q></p><p>Don't know the area, but wondered where the kids from around there will gather and play now.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:59:28 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						Here's a bigger version of that panorama.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:40:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>You mean the parkland or the motorway?</q></p><p>The parkland. I was thinking you meant War Memorial Park, etc &mdash; and the various reserves around Oakley Creek at my end.</p><p>Alan Wood Reserve of course, also, where the motorway extension is going now, but that was a pretty rough park. I'd…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:35:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>post CRL </q></p><p>Yes, worth empahsising that without the Core Rail Link being built first, other network extensions like Mr Roskill or airport or Shore lines won't work.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:33:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>Pak N Save is just outside the rail designation</q></p><p>Goes through the firewood yard next door, doesn't it? Recall someone (you?) writing that already using some of the old designated land for the motorway means houses will need to be demolished to fit rail through now.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:31:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>And who'd want to give that up now?</q></p><p>You mean the parkland or the motorway?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:28:41 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joshua Arbury</title>
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						<p>A few comments:</p><p>1) Yes the tunnel goes underneath the waterfall (maybe not directly) and underneath Oakley Creek. Very little impact there.</p><p>2) The Avondale-Southdown railway line may actually be needed (or at least the western section of it) a bit earlier than was previously thought. It'd be a pretty…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:28:38 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>some pictures</q></p><p>See what you mean. That's more prominent already than I expected.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:28:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Note that the new motorway from Onehunga goes over the land reserved for the Avondale-Southdown rail link (hence the network of public parkland through Mt Roskill).</q></p><p>And who'd want to give that up now?</p><p>The strange thing is how Pak 'n' Save got permission to build a great big supermarket…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:23:55 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						Looking each way at the Oakley Creek diversion at the south end.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:20:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>I went for a ride and took some pictures for y’all.</p><p>A panorama at the south end of the tunnel, and a look from the footbridge at the north end.</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Interesting how <a href="http://transportblog.co.nz/2009/10/09/how-everything-went-wrong-for-auckland/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Auckland's transport and urban planning</a> deviated from Wellington's last century &ndash; post includes a 1940s Ministry of Works map of what could have been. Note that the new motorway from Onehunga goes over the land reserved for the Avondale-Southdown rail link (hence the network of public parkland through…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:19:01 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Roger</title>
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						<p><q>When the motorway network was originally sketched out in the 1950s it was accompanied by huge expansion of the tram network.</q></p><p>Actually Matthew it didn't.  I have a copy of the 1955 Master Transport Plan for Metropolitan Auckland and while it has pictures of trams in it, it makes almost…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:05:29 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p><q>a perfect crash record</q></p><p>Wow. I'm sure if you had bus drivers like the ones in the capital that might change &ndash; <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/wellington-central/6735311/Drivers-sacking-after-10-crashes-justified" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Go Wellington apparently has a "10 strikes" policy for its drivers</a>.</p><p>(On the plus side, they're all very nice, but they do tend to run into stuff a…</p>
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				<title>Paul Brislen</title>
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						<p>sadly the one-lane road from Dev to everywhere else precludes any hope of doing that. I dropped someone at the ferry once after a meeting at my office &ndash; took us nearly an hour to get to Dev from Takapuna. One way.</p><p>We have all this water, why aren't we…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 14:53:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						It's not pessimistic, it's just a bit naive. For one thing, until that happens the buses are left stranded in traffic. For another, the buses will remain stranded in whatever traffic there happens to be, and if there's a crash they will be just as stranded as all the other…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 14:45:57 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>James Butler</title>
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						Is it pessimistic of me to not feel too bad about the omission of bus lanes, because within a few years car volumes will have dropped enough that there will be lanes to spare for buses?
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 14:34:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						ah, maybe the fainting was practice
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 14:33:38 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>David Hood</title>
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						<p><q> and Diplomatic Protection Squad boys are going – it’s not a cheap thing keeping someone at Scott Base for 4 days…. </q><br />I assumed it is to protect Key from being in the dangerous situation of being asked questions he can't run away from.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 14:31:39 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>I was stunned to learn I couldn’t get a ferry to Takapuna and the only choice for me was to drive over the bridge.</q></p><p>Not quite. You can ferry to Devonport or Birkenhead and get an onward bus to Takapuna.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 14:10:54 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Brislen</title>
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						I don't think Aucklanders want to drive in their cars any more than any other city dwellers... far from it. But the lack of choice is incredibly limited. Trains cover part of the city, buses get squeezed out &ndash; bicycles are fine but my ride of choice (scooter) just became…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 14:05:55 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>provision for a bus lane.</q></p><p>If they were doing it properly they'd provide for a full separated busway, like the Northern Motorway's got. The Western Line deviates a long way from the motorway by the time one gets up through Te Atatu and on into the north-western hinterland, and bus…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 13:49:53 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-waterview-bore/?p=279703#post279703</link>
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						<p><a href="http://www.aucklandtransport.govt.nz/about-us/board-members/Board-Meetings-Minutes/Documents/Board%20reports%20June%202012/AT-Agenda-Item-10(v)-Proposed-Waterview-Cycleway-June2012.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">This the the cycleway proposal</a>.</p><p>We missed out on the sweet bridge at the Pt Chev end, but it's not bad.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 13:45:54 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Richard Stewart</title>
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						<p>OK to be fair that is the proposal. <br />We'll just have to wait and see what the finished article looks like, but I can't help thinking that it will be akin to keeping the facade of the Queens Head Tavern while bastardising the surrounding landscape.</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Actually, if you Aucklanders feel it’ll make life better turning the city into (more of) a mini-LA, go right ahead.</q></p><p>Well, I can’t stop pronouncing loftily from afar, so go right ahead yourself.</p><p>This is a motorway that has been under construction since the 1970s, and it does play an…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 13:35:39 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>Actually, if you Aucklanders feel it’ll make life better turning the city into (more of) a mini-LA, go right ahead.</q></p><p>You're assuming, very arrogantly, that Aucklanders <strong>do</strong> want to continue the automobile-obsessed ways of the past on the basis that the current regime aren't interested in supporting public transport. When…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 13:30:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p>It's not like Key is universally beloved amongst the scientific community. Eh, Bart ;)</p><p>I'm prepared to accept that there's a rigid policy that the PM must be accompanied when on official engagements (whether I think that's necessary is a different story), but as there's no possibility of the full…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 13:25:26 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>Actually, if you Aucklanders feel it'll make life better turning the city into (more of) a mini-LA, go right ahead.</p><p>If you could use up all the highway funds so they can't build the Basin Reserve flyover/tunnel scheme in Wellington, that'd be great. According to the National Party / Dom…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 13:24:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tim Welch</title>
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						Cycle Action Auckland have the low-down on the causeway works &ndash; <a href="http://caa.org.nz/general-news/northwestern-cycleway-the-causeway-works/#more-9537" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://caa.org.nz/general-news/northwestern-cycleway-the-causeway-works/#more-9537</a>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 13:22:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>This project at least makes more sense than the provincial RONS projects.</q></p><p>Yes, that's how it seemed to me.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 13:13:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>Maybe send a couple down</q></p><p>to thwart any aggressive penguins</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 13:12:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>thomas</title>
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						thats my understanding too. there's also discussion in the district 30-year plan about a further walkway extension along the coastline up the west side of waterview (although no timeframes).
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>Can’t quite see why the wife and Diplomatic Protection Squad boys are going</q></p><p>Helen used to go and do things like climbing Mt Kilimanjaro without a DPS escort, and that's practically wandering around in Times Square compared to the inaccessibility of Scott Base. Maybe send a couple down in order…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 13:04:15 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						And for anyone who thinks we're being too hard on NZTA, here's some pictorial evidence about <a href="http://transportblog.co.nz/2013/01/18/proof-nzta-hates-public-transport/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">their similar efforts</a> on another section of Auckland motorway.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 13:04:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Hmm, just done the flyover and note that you can’t get on or off SH20 from Pt Chev intersection. B@gga! Will need to go to Western Springs then back to interchange. So much for 15 minutes to the airport….</q></p><p>Yes &mdash; I was just reading about that &mdash; no connection…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 12:59:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>For motorists in the short term, but not for the beautiful Oakley Creek Walkway and waterfall.</q></p><p>Are you sure? As far as I can tell, the tunnel will go <em>under</em> the creek and waterfall. The creek will be subject to temporary diversion at the southern end, but the part where…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 12:57:37 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>impending Water views…</strong><br /><q>…the lack of ice in the Arctic, and I wonder: Are they planning to raise it far enough?</q><br />We have just sent a renowned source of hot air (and a possible Typhoid Mary) down to Antarctica for 4 days!<br /><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/8192837/Keys-to-chill-out-at-South-Pole" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Keys to chill out in Antarctica</a><br />Can’t quite…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 12:56:42 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Dean Wallis</title>
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						Hmm, just done the flyover and note that you can't get on or off SH20 from Pt Chev intersection.  B@gga!  Will need to go to Western Springs then back to interchange.  So much for 15 minutes to the airport....
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 12:56:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						The Causeway upgrade is infuriating because NZTA of obstinately refused to include a bus way, or even sufficient shoulder space to construct one in the future. There’s no work being done to allow buses to bypass the Patiki/Rosebank Rd on/off-ramps, either. Public transport is being completely ignored during the entire…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 12:55:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>an alternative route</q></p><p>And for trucks bypassing the Northern/Southern motorway from Manukau or Albany, which is good (though at about $4b for the whole route, not cheap). This project at least makes more sense than the provincial RONS projects.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 12:50:51 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Dastardly Bounder</title>
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						I thought the Waterview Tunnel included a restoration and beautification of the Oakley Creek walkway?
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 12:47:51 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>widening the NW motorway without adding dedicated buslanes</q></p><p>Found a <a href="http://transportblog.co.nz/2012/10/07/northwest-busway-plans/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Transportblog post</a> on that. Think there are earlier ones too.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 12:46:51 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Enabling people to buy houses the other side of Albany and drive to wherever they are working, causing traffic levels to increase again until we’re back to stopped.</q></p><p>No so much, really. They're already doing that. But it should ease the impact of showstopping congestion or crashes on SH1, by…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 12:45:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Dastardly Bounder</title>
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						<p>The Causeway is planned to be completed before the Waterview Tunnel and the next section, the Te Atatu Interchange is expected to be complete soon after. </p><p>The Causeway will be raised by 3m  (it has sunk by 2m) and will be widened, including better pedestrian and cyclist facilities. </p><p>The whole…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 12:44:42 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Richard Stewart</title>
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						<p>"i'm expecting the impact of the work once completed to be positive."</p><p>For motorists in the short term, but not for the beautiful Oakley Creek Walkway and waterfall.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 12:42:10 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p>Transportblog has a number of detailed posts about <a href="http://transportblog.co.nz/tag/waterview-connection/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">the Waterview Connection project</a>, as you'd expect.</p><p>Spending all that money widening the NW motorway without adding dedicated buslanes boggles me. Such a wasted opportunity.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 12:40:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Shaun Lott</title>
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						I look at the causeway raising, then to the temperatures in Australia and the lack of ice in the Arctic, and I wonder: Are they planning to raise it far enough?
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 12:32:33 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p><q>a rational (?) project that will increase network capacity</q></p><p>Enabling people to buy houses the other side of Albany and drive to wherever they are working, causing traffic levels to increase again until we're back to stopped. (or gas prices go through $5 a litre and they can't afford to…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 12:27:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>thomas</title>
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						i live at the top of waterview just off great north road and drive through the construction zone to work every morning. from my point of view while enormous, the construction itself hasn't actually been massively disruptive so far. from what i can tell of the plans, i'm expecting the…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 12:23:20 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tim Michie</title>
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						The Auckland <a href="http://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/EN/PARKSFACILITIES/WALKINGTRACKS/Pages/coasttocoast.aspx" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Coast to Coast Walk</a> is an easy day out and <em>much</em> easier than the <a href="http://www.speights.co.nz/Whats-On/Coast-to-Coast?gclid=CLHciIDB8LQCFQmCQgodWjwA1g" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">other one</a>.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 12:09:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Public Address</title>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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