Public Address | Cafe | Hard News: The Unitary Plan and grown-up conversations https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/ en-us Copyright (c) 2026 Public Address Kumara Republic https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364955#post364955 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364955#post364955 We will also discuss whether Christchurch should organise a solidarity sleep-out in cars to highlight the housing crisis here.

If if happens, how about holding it outside Gerry Brownlee's electorate office?

]]> Mon, 08 Aug 2016 19:21:06 +1200 Ian Dalziel https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364882#post364882 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364882#post364882 an adult conversation is being held in Chchch tonight:
CPN August Forum
The Housing crisis
Monday August 8th, 7.15pm
WEA Hall, 59 Gloucester Street

Guest Speakers:
Phil Twyford – Labour Party Housing Spokesperson
Metiria Turei – Green Party Housing spokesperson

(New Zealand First MP Denis O’Rourke and Minister of Housing…

]]> Mon, 08 Aug 2016 06:43:58 +1200 Angela Hart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364881#post364881 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364881#post364881 this article is about the problems mobility impaired people have finding housing which is safe for them
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/82528058/no-houses-available-for-disabled-new-zealanders
Universal design is a no brainer but the uptake is terribly slow.

]]> Sun, 07 Aug 2016 23:51:29 +1200 kw https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364529#post364529 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364529#post364529 Sun, 31 Jul 2016 18:37:41 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364527#post364527 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364527#post364527 Sun, 31 Jul 2016 16:45:37 +1200 Christopher Dempsey https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364520#post364520 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364520#post364520 Sun, 31 Jul 2016 11:57:14 +1200 Angela Hart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364477#post364477 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364477#post364477 Given that intensification has to happen, how much thought will go into making the new dwellings accessible? I mean, given that a lot more two and three storey residential buildings are going to go up, has anyone really thought about what that means for people who can't use stairs?

It…

]]> Fri, 29 Jul 2016 18:02:19 +1200 Howard Edwards https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364465#post364465 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364465#post364465 Remind's me Jimmy Fallon's parody of the Trump University student survey questions, which included the following:

On a scale of 9 to 10, how would you rate Trump University?

Which of the following words best describes your experience at Trump University:

a) Awesome!

b) Awesome!!

c) Awesome!!!

b) Awesome!!!!

]]> Fri, 29 Jul 2016 15:21:37 +1200 BenWilson https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364456#post364456 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364456#post364456 Yes, where to start with the undemocratic nature of Singapore? But let’s not, because it’s a derail.

ETA: My gf of 8 years in my 20s wrote her doctoral thesis on this. The number of times I had to proofread stuff about Singapore and its system! She was fascinated by…

]]> Fri, 29 Jul 2016 12:43:41 +1200 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364455#post364455 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364455#post364455 Also politics: NZ has been a democracy for over a hundred years, with leadership changing every 2-3 elections. Singapore has continually “elected” the People’s Action Party (PAP) since 1965.

And wards that have the temerity to vote the "wrong" way tend to find that maintenance goes undone and services degrade.…

]]> Fri, 29 Jul 2016 11:13:16 +1200 llew40 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364454#post364454 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364454#post364454 Fri, 29 Jul 2016 10:40:30 +1200 BenWilson https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364427#post364427 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364427#post364427 Thu, 28 Jul 2016 15:27:38 +1200 nzlemming https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364423#post364423 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364423#post364423 They actually have to put on grown-up pants and go make a case to a court, instead of just broadcasting misinformation.

And get costs against them when they lose.

]]> Thu, 28 Jul 2016 14:36:13 +1200 nzlemming https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364422#post364422 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364422#post364422 Maybe we should follow Singapore and just abolish local government altogether. There are major geographical differences obviously but not a major population difference (Singapore has a few hundred thousand more people than NZ.

Wow. Way to make a false equivalence. Singapore is a city state of 687 sq km with…

]]> Thu, 28 Jul 2016 14:34:05 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364419#post364419 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364419#post364419 Thu, 28 Jul 2016 14:08:02 +1200 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364418#post364418 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364418#post364418 The main nimby lobbyists are pondering a legal challenge to the hearings panel’s work.

Which is great. They actually have to put on grown-up pants and go make a case to a court, instead of just broadcasting misinformation.

]]> Thu, 28 Jul 2016 14:04:49 +1200 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364417#post364417 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364417#post364417 And more non-grownup behaviour from some bigots.

They lost.

]]> Thu, 28 Jul 2016 14:03:39 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364416#post364416 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364416#post364416 And more non-grownup behaviour from some bigots on the inside.

Councillors Mike Lee, Dick Quax and Cameron Brewer are mounting an attempt today to move the scheduled debate of the plan recommendations away from a committee which includes two members of the Independent Māori Statutory Board.

They began pushing last…

]]> Thu, 28 Jul 2016 14:01:13 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364415#post364415 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364415#post364415 legal challenge to the hearings panel's work. ]]> Thu, 28 Jul 2016 13:50:51 +1200 Glenn Pearce https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364414#post364414 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364414#post364414 My point was more that the quasi-judicial process makes feckless political attacks harder.

Doesn't the quasi-judicial process just give the opposing councillors (and local board members) somewhere to hide now?

"it wasn't us" "we tried"

Given the time constraints and level of detail in the recommendations they really have no…

]]> Thu, 28 Jul 2016 12:55:28 +1200 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364413#post364413 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364413#post364413 The rhetoric has changed; witness Granny’s headline this morning. Instead of the sky is falling and the world is heading to hell in a hand-basket headlines, they now say thousands of homeowners will reap billions in up-zoning. What a difference a USB stick makes.

The Herald's position has been pretty…

]]> Thu, 28 Jul 2016 12:37:59 +1200 Christopher Dempsey https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364412#post364412 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364412#post364412 Thu, 28 Jul 2016 12:24:53 +1200 Matthew Poole https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364411#post364411 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364411#post364411 Thu, 28 Jul 2016 12:22:32 +1200 BenWilson https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364410#post364410 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364410#post364410 Maybe we should follow Singapore and just abolish local government altogether.

I thought this was to be an adult conversation. That's not going to happen in a country that has not yet reverted to fascism. Hopefully that doesn't happen.

]]> Thu, 28 Jul 2016 12:22:27 +1200 Kevin McCready https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364409#post364409 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364409#post364409 Thu, 28 Jul 2016 12:10:26 +1200 Christopher Dempsey https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364408#post364408 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364408#post364408 Thu, 28 Jul 2016 12:04:12 +1200 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364404#post364404 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364404#post364404 This is an interesting comment and one I broadly agree with. But isn’t it interesting that not only don’t we want councillors making long-term decisions about Auckland, we don’t even want council-appointed commissioners making decisions about Auckland?

My point was more that the quasi-judicial process makes feckless political attacks harder.…

]]> Thu, 28 Jul 2016 11:19:54 +1200 Matthew Hooton https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364403#post364403 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364403#post364403 As flawed as it was in some ways, the government’s 2010 super-city legislation laid the ground for that by requiring the oversight of an independent panel rather than council-appointed commissioners.

This is an interesting comment and one I broadly agree with. But isn't it interesting that not only don't we…

]]> Thu, 28 Jul 2016 11:08:19 +1200 Public Address https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364402#post364402 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-unitary-plan-and-grown-up-conversations/?p=364402#post364402 Discussion from blog post.

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