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				<title>SteveH</title>
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						<blockquote><p>'Real artists' still need to eat.</p></blockquote><p>Taking just the case of musicians, how did they eat before widespread recording was invented at the end of the 19th century?</p><p>Piracy hasn't stopped people going to concerts or buying T-shirts. In fact concert tickets are up, at least in Oz and UK,…</p>
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				<title>Lyndon Hood</title>
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						<p>I think the commissioning rule one went through. But the parody and satire discussion paper never happened.</p><p>... without meaning to suggest I don't see what you did there.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:06:23 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>FYI there is copyright stuff being proposed to happen for commissioning and parody/satire</p></blockquote><p>Sweet. Dust off your Daily-Show-knockoff props.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:58:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Lyndon Hood</title>
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						<p><a href="http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0911/S00047.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">ACTA Copyright Treaty Leaks</a>: It Really Is That Bad</p><p>I release there is another thread this could go on, but...</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:01:20 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Great show, guys.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 23:10:34 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<p>Why on earth was the second hour all about bras?</p><p>:-)</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 23:10:23 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Go Metiria &ndash; raising my issue eloquently and without any prompting.  :)
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				<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 22:34:28 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm on set at the moment, just about to do a rehearsal. Damian's going well.</p></blockquote><p>Oh, I might come down and say hello.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:27:45 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Heck, I just started a post with the Ranapia "W" word. Doctor!</p></blockquote><p>Who!  That is one hell of an irritating tic that needs to be strangled and thrown in a ditch.  You should see me do it live, though &mdash; there's a whole range of inflections from "just let me…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:39:57 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						I'm on set at the moment, just about to do a rehearsal. Damian's going well.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:35:09 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Lyndon Hood</title>
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						<blockquote>The limitations they relaxed a couple of weeks back?</blockquote>The limitations that they clarified as being what I thought they were anyway, but yes.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:24:47 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Not strictly copyright but you could ask about the satire/ridicule limitations on the use of the parliament video.</p></blockquote><p>The limitations they relaxed a couple of weeks back?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:58:28 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>FletcherB</title>
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						<p>It appears from the Herald article linked to above... that Mr Plunket's boss doesnt want "his talent" promoting other "stations"...</p><p>Now in a commercial TV or radio situation, I'd find that quite an understandable position..... but seeing as they are both state-run enterprises that are not strictly relying on ratings…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:58:18 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Lyndon Hood</title>
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						<p>Not strictly copyright but you could ask about the satire/ridicule limitations on the use of the parliament video.</p><p><br />FYI there is <a href="http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA0809/S00481.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">copyright stuff being proposed to happen</a> for commissioning and parody/satire</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:49:30 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Heck, I just started a post with the Ranapia "W" word.  Doctor!
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				<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 09:32:26 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Well that would explain how deeply pissed off he looked on telly the other night, alongside the diminutive Ms Watkins.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 09:31:34 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Crikey. I didn't expect that dispute to go public quite so soon ...</p></blockquote><p>Really?  I thought RNZ was the kind of workplace that put the "diss" into "dysfunctional".  But, yes, I'm confident that Damian will do the whole geek with gravitas thing perfectly.  :)</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 08:46:51 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Oh and all the best to you and Damien for tonight. I'm pretty sure Mr. Christie could have done without this drama:</p></blockquote><p>Crikey. I didn't expect that dispute to go public <em>quite</em> so soon ...</p><p>Damian will kick ass.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 07:56:20 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p>Oh and all the best to you and Damien for tonight.  I'm pretty sure Mr. Christie could have done without <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10533622" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this drama</a>:</p><blockquote><p>Radio New Zealand's Morning Report host Sean Plunket says he is "moving on and looking for a new job" after 11 years with state radio.</p><p>Radio New Zealand insiders…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 07:17:04 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Russell, on the Digital Divide matter, can you ask what the parties are planning on doing to remove online barriers for disabled people in publicly funded sites and services.  Ta.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:55:05 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>robbery</title>
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						doesn't feed you or pay your rent
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				<title>robbery</title>
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						<blockquote><p>They crave the admiration and acceptance that comes from people seeing, hearing or reading their works and that leads to the fame and fortune that comes to worthy creators.</p></blockquote><p>that sentence makes more sense if you startd with the word initially.<br />admiration and acceptance does' feed you or pay your…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 23:47:34 +1200</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>Naturally, I'm interested in what correspondents to the country's cleverest discussion forums think,</p></blockquote><p>I think its essential that you focus as much of the panels time on the importance of media content remaining as copyable as possible. really hammer that home.</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Just because something is available to the public (even for free) does not mean is is in the public domain.<br />Having said that, the intarwebs do make a bit of a mockery of copyright law, but that doesn't mean the law doesn't exist.</p></blockquote><p>That was , kinda, my point, that's…</p>
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				<title>Kracklite</title>
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						<p>... or should it be "KHAAAAAAAAANNNNNN!!!!!!!"?</p><p>Sorry.</p>
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				<title>Kracklite</title>
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						<em>Khan!</em>  Damnit!  No relation of Herman.
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						<blockquote><p>tub-thumping about the hopeless Clydesdale paper</p></blockquote><p>DuFresne has, as they say, "issues".  I remember him throwing a tanty over astronomers not providing him with a spectacular enough meteor shower.</p><p>His oh-so-noble defence of Clydesdale's right to be heard of course disingenuously reduces the debate to ONLY the right to be…</p>
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				<title>Hoane Doe</title>
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						<blockquote><p>..Peering..</p></blockquote><p>There has been plenty of industry action on this over the last 18 months.  Problem is, it does not make commercial sense for every ISP to 'peer' with everyone else. </p><p>Telecom has launched its Local Peering offering and apparently has a couple of ISPs hooked up already.  Can't find…</p>
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				<title>Lyndon Hood</title>
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						<p>Relevant-to-something-above stuff you've probably seen if your interested:</p><p>The Onion <a href="http://www.theonion.com/content/news/obama_deletes_another_unread" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">has Obama's inbox</a></p><p>BoingBoing: <a href="http://www.boingboing.net/2008/09/18/copyrights-paradox-b.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Copyright's Paradox: brilliantly argued scholarly book tackles free speech vs. copyright</a></p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<blockquote><p>'Real artists' still need to eat.</p></blockquote><p>Back in the day, there was patronage there still is support for artists in this country. The point is, you can't just one day decide to be an artist and expect people to give you everything you desire.<br />I, for one, find it appalling that…</p>
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				<title>Mark Harris</title>
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						<p>@ Steve<br />"Public domain" is a specific legal state where all claim to a particular thing has been disavowed or has lapsed. Just because something is available to the public (even for free) does not mean is is in the public domain.</p><p>Having said that, the intarwebs do make a…</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>'Real artists' still need to eat.</p></blockquote><p>Food would surely come under instant gratification. No real artist needs that.</p>
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				<title>Phil Brownlee</title>
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						<p>'Real artists' still need to eat.<br />But that's what you're asking, isn't it?</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						On the copyright thing, I have always considered that once something is "out there" on the net it is really in the public domain, as it were. Like it or not if you can download, watch, listen or read something from the comfort of your own home then how can…
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				<title>Mark Harris</title>
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						<p>@Lyndon<br />I'm sure they'll be very effective. </sarcasm></p>
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				<title>Lyndon Hood</title>
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						<p>You could ask what they think of <a href="http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/SC0809/S00059.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">the ICT industry uniting against section 92A of the new Copyright Act</a>.</p><blockquote><p><i>Sarah palin's inbox.</i></p><p>Which I must say is rubbish</p></blockquote><p>Indeed. Still, it might remind people not to base their security on questions that can be answered from publicly available information.</p>
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				<title>David Hamilton</title>
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						<blockquote><p>2) Traffic caps &ndash; Broadband speed isn't the most critical factor, but rather traffic caps. A hangover of the dial-up volume charging era.</p></blockquote><p>I thought it was quite funny how everyone was up in arms about Comcast's <a href="http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080828-its-official-comcast-starts-250gb-bandwidth-caps-october-1.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">250GB per month cap</a> in the states.</p><p>I live on the rural outskirts…</p>
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				<title>Mark Harris</title>
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						PS  Don Christie and I had a meeting with Judith Tizard and her officials that was less than informative. I have also emailed the political Trade spokespersons (or reasonably facsimile thereof) for their party's view on ACTA. I'll post the result on the wiki once they've come in.
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				<title>Mark Harris</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Re: ACTA there have been a couple of leaks.</p></blockquote><p>I  <a href="http://acta.lemming-brothers.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">started a wiki</a> when I first learned of ACTA in June. I've put up a copy of my submission to MED, and also my Big Fun Time(tm) in getting any info <strong>out</strong> of MED.  Also some links to other areas.…</p>
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						<p>LOVE<br />KIM<br />HILL</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 22:22:06 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Re: ACTA there have been a couple of leaks. I would direct you to wikileaks except it appears to currently be sploded, likely under the wieght of people wanting to see Sarah palin's inbox.</p></blockquote><p>Which I must say is rubbish, at least in so far as what the perpetrators  have…</p>
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				<title>Thrash Cardiom</title>
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						<p>I'd be interested in some deep and searching questions being asked about the sector that provides over 20% of exports from NZ but which is going to be left out of the Fibre to 85%/90%/95% of the population.  </p><p>Should rural areas really be left on the outer edges considering their…</p>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p>The burning issues as I see them:</p><p>1) International bandwidth &ndash; There needs to be another undersea cable running, for instance from Kapiti to Sydney, or Castlepoint to Fiji/Honolulu.<br />2) Traffic caps &ndash; Broadband speed isn't the most critical factor, but rather traffic caps. A hangover of the dial-up volume…</p>
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				<title>Roger</title>
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						<p>(1) Peering &ndash; We really do have to do something about this, is it really back to 2005 that you wrote about this Russell?</p><p>(2) Cost of international bandwidth &ndash; stories of people resorting to portable drives and flights to LA because Air NZ is cheaper than email are just…</p>
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				<title>Lyndon Hood</title>
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						<p>"And this just in over IRC, a general question to all the panellists:<br />Has you got mah bukkit?"</p>
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				<title>Grant Stone</title>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Five! Five broad headings! Our chief weapon is surprise....</p></blockquote><p>Fantastic.</p>
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				<title>Lyndon Hood</title>
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						<p>Re: ACTA there have been a couple of leaks. I would direct you to wikileaks except it appears to currently be sploded, likely under the wieght of people wanting to see Sarah palin's inbox.</p><p><a href="http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:ke1W5ZreGYwJ:wikileaks.org/wiki/Proposed_US_ACTA_multi-lateral_intellectual_property_trade_agreement_(2007)+wikileaks&amp;hl=en&amp;gl=nz&amp;strip=1" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">here is the google cache on ACTA</a> &ndash; handily, the page came up as a subhead when…</p>
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				<title>Kim Griggs</title>
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						Russell, my topic would be copyright &ndash; and how to resolve disputes. There is no simple way to do this in New Zealand. The Copyright Tribunal looks at only copyright collecting schemes, and whether they are good or badand the Dispute Tribunal has a specific exclusion for intellectual property disputes.…
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				<title>Peter Darlington</title>
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						<p>On the broadband/peering tip, something to do with their commitment to the provision of open access networks. Maybe their understanding of what an open access network is.</p><p>On the digital divide, I'd like to know some specifics about the model they see working to bring broadband to our rural areas…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Excuse the dumb question but what is "peering"? Over the shoulder? Through a window? Surveillance of internet use??</p></blockquote><p>It's actually a really important issue for companies trying to deliver internet media.</p><p>I <a href="http://publicaddress.net/2213" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">explained it on Mediawatch</a> in 2005.</p><p>Nothing has improved.</p>
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				<title>Andrew E</title>
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						<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peering" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Peering</a>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						<p>Excuse the dumb question but what is "peering"?  Over the shoulder? Through a window?  Surveillance of internet use??</p><p>In respect of questions for the TVNZ7 panel, I would like something on where the internet fits with secondary schooling.  Should it be an IT responsibility (which is more about finding your…</p>
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				<title>Zippy Gonzales</title>
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						Oh bravo. Those floating question marks in Simon Pound's report were particularly inspired.
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						<p>Can't be there unfortunately but as others have said:</p><p>1. peering<br />2. peering<br />3. ACTA</p><p>and I liked I/Ss question about copyright.</p>
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				<title>Greg Dawson</title>
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						<p>Regarding the mandatory isp level filtering in .au; last night I was told by a Telstra user that the same filters would be applied to all TelstraClear innanets whether they were for .au, .nz, .etc (on the basis of preserving corporate HQ direction I presume).</p><p>Don't know the truth of…</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<p>But seriously...</p><p>I reckon the copyright question.</p><p>And do the panel think there is a demonstrable, material link between economic growth and broadband coverage?</p>
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						<p>About this time in the electoral cycle all I can say is...</p><p>... not the comfy chair!</p>
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						I know I’m jumping back a topic, but I have to come to the defence of the Sunday Morning programme on Radio NZ, which has come into criticism on ‘Hard New’s’ discussion thread before today.  I honestly prefer it to Kim Hill on Saturday.  The chief reasons for this being:…
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<p>I'm rather excited about the TVNZ 7 Internet Debate &ndash; and I'm going to be in the audience!</p><p>I'm really pleased that internet issues are being seriously debated. It's a nice change from times when politicians considered the internet a pool of nutters and/or paedophiles.</p><p>Others have raised this topics,…</p>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						That said all my peering that does happen still happens in Auckland &ndash; I use VOIP a lot, and I know that after lunch (our time) VOIP to the states (in my case Vonage) seems to become unuseable &ndash; there's no reason why any of my local Dunedin calls (I…
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				<title>Andrew E</title>
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						<p>More seriously, ask them whether they think ISPs are common carriers or <a href="http://www.medialawjournal.co.nz/?p=155" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">publishers</a>.</p><p>Ask them if they think internet access is now a utility like water, electricity and gas, and therefore should be regulated as such.</p><p>Ask them if they think Treasury imposes too high a discount rate on infrastructure…</p>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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				<title>Andrew E</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Sean Plunket will moderate. Fran O'Sullivan and I will ask questions and pass on live questions from viewers. There'lll also be a studio audience asking questions, a live IRC channel, questions submitted via Skype and online polls. Yes, it does sound complex.</p></blockquote><p>Yes, it sounds far too complex, with a…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>PA hosts in NZ? Are you made of money Russell?</p></blockquote><p>Hell no &mdash; that would be crazy. We're with the hosting service in California that CactusLab uses. Their monthly allocation is freakin' huge, and it's not expensive.</p>
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				<title>Tim Michie</title>
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						<p>Given how many of the Kim Hill program guest are overseas scientists or writers visiting New Zealand and she's grabbing them while they're here their personal politics don't really reflect there appearance on the show.  Their personal politics may not fit the New Zealand Left-Right labdscape.</p><p>Certainly their ideas can…</p>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<blockquote><p>all my packets to/from PA appear to go Dunedin->Auckland->Los Angeles->San Francisco->Auckland</p></blockquote><p>PA hosts in NZ? Are you made of money Russell?</p>
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				<title>Mikaere Curtis</title>
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						<p>Question for the panel: </p><p>Whether they support the compulsory filtering of all data by the ISPs, as the <a href="http://www.publicaddress.net/5308#post5308" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Aussies seem rather keen on</a>.</p>
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				<title>larryq</title>
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						I love living in Wellington but it's hard to disagree that the place is more deluded and self important that it could be. Kim Hill's programme is a reflection of this, especially since she got Mark Cubey on board as poducer. I guess that Kim Hill is a liberal, and…
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						<p>I don't understand the NZ peering argument &ndash; surely all the local traffic filling up the overseas pipes costs the ISPs more &ndash; or is the issue that they made the mistake of hiring marketting drones and this is their way of making themselves seem usefull</p><p>(BTW all my packets…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 11:03:41 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Idiot Savant</title>
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						Ask them what the purpose of copyright is and how long they think it should last.  Basic, but illuminating.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 10:57:23 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<p>Two questions on cybersafety:</p><p>Does the panel believe central government has any role in censoring the internet in the name of cyber-safety and, if the answer is yes, how would the panelists ensure any such centralised censorship wasn't captured by vested interests who push to ban sites that cater to…</p>
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				<title>John Fouhy</title>
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						Yeah, definitely something on peering.  Although I'm not sure what the current state of that argument is.  It seems that the free market system we've got acts contrary to the goal of getting the best possible internet service here.  It'd be nice to see some pressure from the government for…
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				<title>Carolyn Skelton</title>
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						<p>This may not be a suitable question for the debate, but it relates to issues of Internet accessibility.</p><p>I see there's news this morning of Auckland City Council considering running libraries and other services as businesses.  Libraries provide free Internet access for members of the public who don't have access…</p>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						no surprise and fear ....
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Five! Five broad headings! Our chief weapon is surprise....</p></blockquote><p>Gold.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 10:47:32 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						I agree with you Russell,  that having McCroskie, McVicar and all the other Mc's on  Kim Hill would be the ruination of the programme.  As you pointed, they have ample access to other areas of the media.  You can see what has happened with The Panel (Nat Radio weekdays), when…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 10:38:40 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						<p>(I should point out that in fact MFAT is negotiating in ACTA and it's web site tells us: <a href="http://www.mfat.govt.nz/Trade-and-Economic-Relations/Trade-Agreements/Anti-Counterfeiting/0-ACTA.php" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">"Participants also discussed future engagement with stakeholders and agreed to proceed with such engagement at the domestic level and to identify opportunities for engagement in the future."</a></p><p>Apparently the public are not…</p>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I think that they wanted to ask whether Asian crime was a problem in New Zealand</p></blockquote><p>If they'd started out from an angle that East Asians were *less* inclined to criminality than other groups, and went on to consider whether the police were adequately addressing what crime there was, then…</p>
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				<title>Peter Martin</title>
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						<p>I have to admit to being more picky over the programmes and find myself  wandering away from NatRad somewhat over the weekends these days. </p><p>I seem to tune in to Radio Live...even with ads...</p><p>I'm not sure if it is the format, the programmes or the announcers.Or just me...</p>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						<p>So questions for the debate (if you need one):</p><p>&ndash; anything about peering &ndash; (for example) Telecom claims we're all moving to VOIP in a few years wouldn't it be a bad thing is half our local calls have to go through LA ?(much less Auckland)</p><p>&ndash; something about <a href="http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080602-the-real-acta-threat-its-not-ipod-scanning-border-guards.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">ACTA</a>…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Five! Five broad headings! Our chief weapon is surprise....</p></blockquote><p>Whoops.</p>
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				<title>Phil Palmer</title>
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						Five! Five broad headings! Our chief weapon is surprise....
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				<title>Public Address</title>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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