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				<title>simon g</title>
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						<p>One News started tonight thus:</p><p>"Parents, sit up and take notice!"</p><p>I trust you all did as you were told, otherwise you are going to be in big, big trouble.</p>
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				<title>InternationalObserver</title>
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						<p>sees...</p><p>everyone...</p><p>else's...</p><p>miskates...</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sept 2007 19:39:38 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>merc</title>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						Thanks 3410. You get the spelling <em>and</em> "had teh courtesy to look it up" prizes.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sept 2007 14:56:03 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>3410</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sept 2007 12:13:14 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Noted &ndash; I hate having my name futzed, and do try to repay the courtesy. And thanks for the pointer &ndash; no wonder the poor bugger sounded rather cross.</p></blockquote><p>Illuminating. I agree wholeheartedly about his new style. He's shown he can conduct a searching and useful interview whilst still letting…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sept 2007 11:42:28 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>InternationalObserver</title>
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						Yeah, I came in on the back of that TV1 story and thought "Omigod, not them too?" but since I didn't see the whole thing I was loathe to comment. I did wonder tho' whether it was the story they ran in the 6pm bulletin (which I didn't see -…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sept 2007 11:41:36 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						<p>Another vote for Mary Wilson. She does have some annoying ticks, but she's usually sharp and incisive. <br />And I think TVNZ also ran the Hilton story in the first break (from T(can't spell it!) Tiffen) in their 10:30 bulletin. And it was just as stupid on TVNZ, for what it's…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sept 2007 11:28:46 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>InternationalObserver</title>
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						<blockquote><p>the breakfast jocks on The Rock were slagging it off as a news story. Gotta say, if even breakfast Rock jocks are criticising a story's newsworthiness...</p></blockquote><p>heh heh</p><p>and worser still: The Rock is owned by the same company that owns TV3!!</p><p>There was a clunker on <em>Breakfast</em> on TV1 this…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sept 2007 10:56:25 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>merc</title>
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						Stephen, totally agree. Be human, simple; if your job requires you to <em>approximate</em> human behaviour, get another one.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sept 2007 08:28:30 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<p>The thing that drives me batshitinsane listening to Wilson is her habit of phrasing questions as direct statements, with only a rising intonation and a prosecutor's pause to tip you off. This:<br />&ndash; closes the question off because it's really only answerable by yes or no<br />&ndash; puts words in…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sept 2007 08:22:35 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>(one 't' by the way)</p></blockquote><p>Noted &ndash; I hate having my name futzed, and do try to repay the courtesy.  And thanks for the pointer &ndash; no wonder the poor bugger sounded rather cross.  Sleep apnoea is a shit of a thing to deal with at the best of times,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sept 2007 22:35:59 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<p>Okay &ndash; we heard much from the TVNZ guy at TGB about their close (and expensive) relationship with Disney/ABC &ndash; why, when they took over this relationship from TV3 did they choose to drop <em>World News Tonight</em> &ndash; which TV3 played mid-nightish?</p><p>So it doesn't have Peter Jennings any more,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sept 2007 22:18:21 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Grant McDougall</title>
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						<blockquote>But to give praise where praise is due, WTF is Sean Plunkett on and where can I get some? I don't know if he's switched to decaf or what, but over the last couple of months I've been able to turn on Morning Report without an instant migraine. He is…</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sept 2007 21:21:25 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Michael  Fitzgerald</title>
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						<p>TV3s offensively nasal blond  Kate was quite happy to talk about niggers as well tonight.</p><p>I really think this word adds nothing to the story but exposes something of the reporters. All middle class white chicks who have a prejudice towards men of colour?</p><p>I know a few amateur dentists…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sept 2007 19:04:42 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Damian Christie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But do TV news reporters in NZ get instructed what line of questions to ask as well? Leanne Malcolm's always struck me as a reasonably on-to-it journo, so I was puzzled by the inane questions.</p></blockquote><p>Yeah we can get instructed as such, for example if we get told to go…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sept 2007 17:39:45 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><i>3 News seems to be progressively adopting every annoying tic of One News circa five years ago &mdash; in this case, pointless and irritating teasers.</i></p><p>But to give praise where praise is due, WTF is Sean Plunkett on and where can I get some?  I don't know if he's switched…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sept 2007 16:48:02 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>InternationalObserver</title>
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						<blockquote><p>So does punctuation make it alright?<br />The word [is] used 4 times &amp; not all direct quotes.</p></blockquote><p>I'm sure that's just the fuddy duddy ol' DomPost who probably didn't understand the guy was saying <em>Niggaz</em> (not 'niggers'). <br />Also from the Stuff/DomPost story:</p><blockquote><p>Ethan described his friend [as] a "big friendly beast" who…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sept 2007 16:31:22 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Josh Addison</title>
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						<p>Kent Brockman: So when you realized Christmas was ruined, how did you feel?<br />Marge: How do you think I felt?<br />Kent Brockman: Absolutely devastated? [turns to camera] "Absolutely devastated," the words of a heartbroken mother.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sept 2007 16:30:55 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Michael  Fitzgerald</title>
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						<p>Concerning myself with the reporting rather than any details relating to the tragic loss of life and impending court case.</p><p>Can anyone answer if the Herald are in breach of Judge Sarah Fleming order by offering this article &amp; their own blog link to discuss it?</p><p><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10463123" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10463123</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sept 2007 15:16:00 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Michael  Fitzgerald</title>
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						<p>So does punctuation make it alright?<br />The word used 4 times &amp; not all direct quotes.</p><p><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/4198457a10.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.stuff.co.nz/4198457a10.html</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sept 2007 12:47:06 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>the third or fourth item in this evening's news was some crap about whether Paris Hilton might like an NZer for a boyfriend.</p></blockquote><p>That's not news. <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/09/10/tv.creativeartsemmys.ap/index.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Dick in a box wins Emmy</a>, that's news.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sept 2007 12:32:53 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>While we're ragging on 3news, how about that plane crash-landing the other night. The promo advised "find out how many people got out".</p><p>The answer?: all of them.</p></blockquote><p>3 News seems to be progressively adopting every annoying tic of One News circa five years ago &mdash; in this case, pointless…</p>
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				<title>3410</title>
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						<p>While we're ragging on 3news, how about that plane crash-landing the other night. The promo advised "find out how many people got out". </p><p>The answer?: all of them.</p>
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				<title>InternationalObserver</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I know it's shooting fish in a barrel, but someone at TV3 "News" needs to be smacked hard on the head with a frying pan: the third or fourth item in this evening's news was some crap about whether Paris Hilton might like an NZer for a boyfriend.</p><p>It was…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sept 2007 11:22:21 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<p>Two thoughts on the most viewed list:</p><p>1. There's a feedback loop in that list. Once something is on the list, it'll attract more clicks, and stay on the list, maybe rising higher. And then if editorial staff base placement of stories on the site on previous "most viewed" results,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sept 2007 10:02:19 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<blockquote><p>truth to the suggestion that newspaper execs are pressuring the editorial staff to make the front page a bit racier?</p></blockquote><p>I think it's the old case of when you ask people what they want to see on the news, they'll <em>tell</em> you they want hard-hitting investigative journalism, not that tabloid…</p>
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				<title>merc</title>
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						<p>If you look at "Today's Most Viewed" on the Stuff website, you'll find<br />1) Olsen twin wont wear bikinis<br />2) Scantily-clad Britney scores bad reviews.<br />3) Your say: Britney scores bad reviews<br />4) Police busted after tracking device found on car<br />5) My boobs are sagging, Charlize says<br />6) Paris…</p>
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				<title>Grant McDougall</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm charitably assuming that Leanne Malcolm was instructed to take that line of questioning.</p></blockquote><p><em>Very</em> charitable of you. I'm more familiar with how newspaper journos operate than TV journos and generally the chief reporter / ed tells a reporter to interview so-and-so on such-and-such issue, but no more, presuming the…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I know it's shooting fish in a barrel, but someone at TV3 "News" needs to be smacked hard on the head with a frying pan: the third or fourth item in this evening's news was some crap about whether Paris Hilton might like an NZer for a boyfriend.</p></blockquote><p>Just saw…</p>
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				<title>Grant McDougall</title>
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						<p>I know it's shooting fish in a barrel, but someone at TV3 "News" needs to be smacked hard on the head with a frying pan: the third or fourth item in this evening's news was some crap about whether Paris Hilton might like an NZer for a boyfriend. </p><p>It was…</p>
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				<title>3410</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I think Julie's quite good at having plenty left over.</p></blockquote><p>And not just her. For me, that's one of the biggest TVNZ scandals; certain producers getting rich off a locked-up commisioning process.</p><p>I feel I'm getting screwed three ways &ndash; as a taxpayer who funds this exclusive club; as a…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>So how did this success/failure (choose your spin) lead to the decision to fund programming for cellphones and youTube? Is this not another example of where bureaucracies create work for themselves in order to continue to feed at the trough?</p></blockquote><p>I think it was a very reasonable use of an…</p>
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				<title>InternationalObserver</title>
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						<blockquote><p>NZ On Air funded it from their Innovation fund (but it still had to screen first on TV to stay inside the Broadcasting Act).</p></blockquote><p>You mean they played <em>jiggery pokery</em> with their own rules in order to pay for something some ppl might have considered bollocks?</p><blockquote><p>now screening again on C4…</p></blockquote>
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						<blockquote><p>How much money will she have left over after flying in the Ingham Twins, paying Paul's salary, and paying TVNZ for all that archive footage?</p></blockquote><p>I think Julie's quite good at having plenty left over.</p><blockquote><p>Whatever will NZOA think of next? Funding programming specificly for cellphones? Didn't Vodafone already do…</p></blockquote>
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						<blockquote><p>While living in Australia, I used to watch ...</p></blockquote><p><em>Whatever Happened To...?<br /></em> (the aussie version, not fronted by <strong>Paul Holmes</strong>). <br />How much NZOA funding did Julie Christie get for this 'kiwi programming'? 1.2million? 1.5 million? How much money will she have left over after flying in the Ingham Twins, paying…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sept 2007 16:55:02 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Charles Mabbett</title>
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						While living in Australia, I used to watch the 7pm news followed by the 7.30 Report on ABC. Now that's public broadcasting.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sept 2007 16:41:03 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Gabor Toth</title>
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						6pm is a terrible time to watch the news &ndash; but it's quite a good time to listen to it having recently discovered that Kiwi FM plays an audio simulcast of the 6pm TV3 news during the week. Even better is that they fill the ad-breaks with choice tracks of…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sept 2007 13:14:05 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Bob Munro</title>
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						<p>Michael Tomasky has a North American take on broadcast television versus the emerging interactive technologies in his review of Al Gore's 'The Assault on Reason' for the New York review of Books at:<br /><a href="http://www.nybooks.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.nybooks.com/</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sept 2007 12:23:55 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>daleaway</title>
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						<p>Eye candy shagging!</p><p>Lord love ya, Craig, you've just defined programme standards and content for a whole new generation of TVNZ administrators.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sept 2007 12:08:44 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Personally, I'd rather watch Classic Millionaire and Ask the Aunties than the news.</p></blockquote><p>Personally, I'd rather watch <em>The Tudors</em> (pouting eye candy! Sam Neil... more eye candy shagging!) or read <em>The Oresteia</em> again, than dedicate any more meat RAM to TVNZ and their corporate dysfunction.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sept 2007 09:39:03 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Che Tibby</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sept 2007 08:55:12 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Che Tibby</title>
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						<p>metaphorically speaking, we're equally far aware.</p><p>my distance is more of a torment though.</p>
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				<title>Jeremy Andrew</title>
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						<blockquote><p>i can see the citylink cable from my window. but absolutely no-one will link our building to it</p></blockquote><p>Luxury! The only way I can see the citylink cable is by driving for 7 hours...</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Tom &ndash; is Telstra cable unavailable in your area, just like mine? I found out the hard way that it's unavailable in a lot of apartments and townhouse clusters.</p></blockquote><p>it's certainly unavailable in mine.</p><p>i can see the citylink cable from my window. but absolutely no-one will link our building…</p>
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				<title>Michael  Fitzgerald</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sept 2007 22:48:01 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<p>I find 6pm is the ideal time to cook dinner...</p><p>I grew up with dinner served 5pm sharp. I still secretly really like to eat at 5pm, all this 7-8pm high falutin' city sophistication eating times is fun and all, but my Mum taught me you eat your breakfast at…</p>
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				<title>Idiot Savant</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Now I have to choice of buying the DVD or downloading the torrent I watch what I want when I want to and ad free.</p></blockquote><p>Ditto.  The only thing I do broadcast any more is the nightly news, and occasionally Parliament when I have to be away from the computer.…</p>
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				<title>Ben Austin</title>
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						Russell, didn't you run a survey on this topic of how people consume TV or media a whiles back? Are you (or have you?) going to publish the results soon?
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						Personally, I'd rather watch Classic Millionaire and Ask the Aunties than the news. Far too depressing. I read the Herald online every morning when I get up and I watch some news bits online during the evening.
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p>I'm definitely one of those who spends more time on the Internet than watching TV these days. In spite of being stuck with a fast dialup plan, which at least has no plastic spaghetti to wade through.</p><p>Tom &ndash; is Telstra cable unavailable in your area, just like mine? I…</p>
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				<title>Charles Mabbett</title>
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						<p>Thanks Stephen and Russell for quote advice.</p><p>Respect to many TV journalists &ndash; many of whom I know personally &ndash; for the quality they bring to their respective programmes. Damien is an evident example. My criticisms are directed at the constraints they have to work under and the editorial decision…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sept 2007 18:38:57 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>InternationalObserver</title>
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						<blockquote>OK, am I the only person who does this: Channel surfs between One and Three for the first ten minutes or so, then turns the television off?</blockquote>Well, I never quite turned it off, but with PIP (Picture-in-picture) I would watch the news, skipping between channels as the stories that interested…
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				<title>johnno</title>
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						<blockquote><p>No no no,... If I was providing content on expenses, I'd be holed up in a suite at the Adlon and stalking Lloud Jones right about now. Sod APEC and the RWC &ndash; annoying Booker shortlisted authors is my idea of public service television. :)</p></blockquote><p>Craig, you will be happy…</p>
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				<title>kmont</title>
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						<p>Well when I first went to J-land I didn't consume any news at all bar the odd bit of BBC/CNN.  No newspaper, no net (except the odd trip to an internet cafe to listen to the B and get weepy) and only a smattering of mad mad Japanese TV.  <br />I…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sept 2007 17:47:29 +1200</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>The ones who bring great change are generally the ones who have nothing to lose.</p><p>Which is essentially the situation with the emerging businesses at TVNZ. They know hardly anyone's going to see the Freeview channels for a while, which has rather liberated the thinking.</p></blockquote><p>That's because they aren't the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sept 2007 17:35:14 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<a href="http://www.publicaddress.net/system/topic,346,hard_news_biting_back_at_bill.sm?p=13264#post13264" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Ah, here we are.</a>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sept 2007 17:16:04 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>BRING IT ON, I SAY!</p></blockquote><p>OTOH, there's the likes of Damian Christie's intelligent and informative (that's a pinot gris, thanks Damian) take on the PC's 'Asian Angst' decision. TV reporting <em>can</em> be good, it just quite often isn't. I like to think Damian's stuff is a bit different because he…</p>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<p><em>when you have been away from NZ TV for a while (and TV in general for that matter) you find other ways to amuse yourself and you don't want to go back to being spoonfed.</em></p><p>Hell yes. I think I posted a while back on my mate JFB's PhD thesis,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sept 2007 17:09:35 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Does anyone know how to indent this? HOw come everyone else can do this? Anyway, from Craig's post:</p></blockquote><p>See in the little instructions in grey to the left of the box you're typing in? Where it says "Quote:". Type that formatting and put your text where it says "text".</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sept 2007 17:09:01 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I find 6pm is the ideal time to cook dinner. If I time it right, it's cooking but not yet ready to be served by sports news time, which is increasingly the only bit worth watching.</p></blockquote><p>A bit tragic that , but yeah. I sometimes arrange the cooking so I…</p>
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				<title>Charles Mabbett</title>
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						<p>Does anyone know how to indent this? HOw come everyone else can do this? Anyway, from Craig's post:</p><p>"I don't actually bother wringing my hands too much over the idea that (if this makes any sense) the balance of media power is shifting. And that includes people just turning off."…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sept 2007 17:02:17 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Joanna</title>
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						<blockquote><p>If I time it right, it's cooking but not yet ready to be served by sports news time, which is increasingly the only bit worth watching.</p></blockquote><p>Meanwhile, if I'm watching the news live, I get up at 6.30 when the sports comes on to go cook dinner.</p>
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I find 6pm is the ideal time to cook dinner.</p></blockquote><p>It works for me at the moment because of my partner's timetable, but at other times in my life it was way too early. I guess it's one way of enforcing work-life balance: unless you're an early riser, it's hard…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>I am also with Joanna about the multi-tasking. My flatmates often drag the ol laptop into the living room to do something productive during all of the downtime during the news. I hardly ever watch the news at all.</p></blockquote><p>I guess I do that quite a lot, but I find…</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						I find 6pm is the ideal time to cook dinner. If I time it right, it's cooking but not yet ready to be served by sports news time, which is increasingly the only bit worth watching.
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Why don't the folks in the TV industry look at the dropping viewers numbers and think for a second <br />"maybe we're doing something they don't like"</p></blockquote><p>because they're never wrong, it must be the viewers at fault for not wanting to watch what's on.</p><p>Have you ever seen a TV…</p>
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				<title>Joanna</title>
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						I record the news every day, watch the headlines and see if there's anything that interests me, and if there is, I watch that. If I had the same HDDVR as my parents have, I'd watch the news in 1.3x the speed, same with <em>Shortland Street</em> &ndash; damn people talking…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sept 2007 16:25:40 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>kmont</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I don't actually bother wringing my hands too much over the idea that (if this makes any sense) the balance of media power is shifting. And that includes people just turning off.</p></blockquote><p>Fuck yeah.</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I am also with Joanna about the multi-tasking. My flatmates often drag the ol laptop into the living room to do something productive during all of the downtime during the news. I hardly ever watch the news at all.</p></blockquote><p>OK, am I the only person who does this: Channel surfs…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>However, I still say give you, Keith Ng, RB (who should be head of the new digi TV unit) and Craig and whoever else who isn't evil, a handicam, a credit card and a licence to shoot.</p></blockquote><p>No no no,... If I was providing content on expenses, I'd be holed…</p>
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						I am also with Joanna about the multi-tasking.  My flatmates often drag the ol laptop into the living room to do something productive during all of the downtime during the news.  I hardly ever watch the news at all.
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				<title>Charles Mabbett</title>
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						Kowhai, spoonfed describes it perfectly. Essentially sitting through a 6pm television news hour is an incredibly inefficient and tedious way to get the day's news. Too much filler &ndash; soft stories and advertising. The internet is way more productive and the RNZ website is just ace because you can cherry…
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						<p>But Che, pleased to meet you but don't you know my name?<br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_%28mythology%29" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_%28mythology%29</a><br />I'm a funny TV watcher. At the local vid complex (deep in the Burb) we get 5 for 5.00 for 1 week (not blockbusters!). Also I surf waves, mow lawns (least we be blacklisted) once a week…</p>
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				<title>Che Tibby</title>
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						<p>merc, you need a dose of this <a href="http://www.orthodoxphotos.com/readings/threshold/prayer2.shtml" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">prayer against demonic snares</a></p><blockquote><p>Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, having struck down the ancient serpent and bound him in Tartarus by bonds of darkness, protect me from his snares.</p><p>Through the prayers of our Most Holy Lady, the Theotokos and Ever-virgin…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>FFS, James, do you also blame John Key when it rains? I'm sorry (and I'm sure many will argue the toss), but O'Connor's rather poor judgement that touches on a pportfo racked by(far from trivial)scandals was a perfectly legitimate story</p></blockquote><p>I do think that a stronger minister in a more…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>You mean, since Tony Holden left the building?</p></blockquote><p>Now you mention it, yes.</p>
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						Che, maybe some deep Burb immersion at my place, we have 2 sets of ranch sliders, a spa landing area (but no spa) and the obligatory red pavement ringing the cul-de-sac (love that term). We're also getting our own mini mall designed like a Tuscan village. We may all have…
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						<blockquote>Or more to the point, we are already on one side of the digital divide, regular readers of the Guardian online whilst far to many of our fellow citizens are stuck with free to air, which is increasingly the equivalent of a community newspaper in a world of subscription magazines.</blockquote>…
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p>Why don't the folks in the TV industry look at the dropping viewers numbers and think for a second <br />"maybe we're doing something they don't like"</p><p>You don't have to spend much time at the water cooler to realise everyone (absolutely everyone) hates the overwhelming frequency of ads. And anyone…</p>
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				<title>Joanna</title>
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						<blockquote> couldn't quite see it on the fuzzy projector, but it seemed to me that in the survey of internet heavy-users' viewing habits, the answers available to the question "if you're watching less TV now, what are you doing with your time?" only included options such as using the internet, reading…</blockquote>
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						I have worked at very high-tech international companies, for 3D, GPS, Graphics Cards, Twin Core, HUD displays, the list goes on, and I'll tell you, though I met and discussed stuff way over my head with Nobel prize winners and serious algorithmic wunderkindes with congenital propeller heads, no-one was a…
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				<title>InternationalObserver</title>
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						<blockquote><p>This fiasco damaged poor Susan's reputation ... and, I think, was a big part in her sad decision to quit a year later, exhausted and discouraged.</p></blockquote><p>oh, so it had nothing to do with those <em>OMIGOD!!</em> rumours I heard about her then?</p><blockquote><p>The likes of John Barnett &mdash; whose company has…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>James</title>
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						<blockquote><p>do you also blame John Key when it rains?</p></blockquote><p>Actually Craig, until you mentioned it, I hadn't thought to blame JK for anything. As a smart politician, he gratefully took the opportunity offered him. </p><p>But now that you have mentioned it, yes, it would been rather prime-minister-in-waiting of him to…</p>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<p>"Possibly, but I still think that it's possible for us to get carried away with the idea that our own little bubble of tech-savvy early adopters is representative."</p><p>Or more to the point, we are already on one side of the digital divide, regular readers of the Guardian online whilst…</p>
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				<title>Che Tibby</title>
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						<blockquote><p>when anyone has a demonstrable fear of something, sorry Che, but did you read that comment?</p></blockquote><p>not so sure that i'm afraid of the burbclaves, so much as cynical that whatever they're currently doing or using is completely meaningless to planning for places like tvnz.</p><p>look at the flip-top mobile…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Morning Report chose instead to give John Key a chance to create a new mini (sterial) scandal.</p></blockquote><p>FFS, James, do you also blame John Key when it rains? I'm sorry (and I'm sure many will argue the toss), but O'Connor's rather poor judgement that touches on a pportfo racked  by(far…</p>
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				<title>Rob Hosking</title>
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						<p>Regarding a trust:  You would have to have a fair chunk of money up front to set up something like that. Well into the tens of billions, I would have thought. </p><p>It does look as though any sell-off of all or part is unlikely.  My own preference would be for…</p>
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				<title>Rob Hosking</title>
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						<p>Tom Beard:</p><p>You said it all re: other options.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>But the original version of 'Come to the Sabbat' was not by Black Sabbath, but their compatriots Black Widow.</p></blockquote><p>Yeah, I thought that didn't sound quite right. Anyhow, for me it will always be "Come, come, come to the Sabbat, come to the Sabbat, Sicoff's there".</p><blockquote><p>So the public stayed…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						<blockquote><p>i was going to be pendantic about the audience that vox pop was conducted in not being representative...</p><p>but then thought, waitaminute, tech people are the leaders in this field &ndash; what they do will set trends for what happens out in the burbclaves.</p></blockquote><p>Possibly, but I still think that…</p>
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				<title>Grant McDougall</title>
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						<p>Regarding Holmes trundling off to Prime, it's obvious that Prime saw Holmes as a rock band, but the public saw him as a footballer. (No wait, let me explain...)...</p><p>E.g, when a band changes record labels, the fans still follow them and buy the albums on the new label. But…</p>
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						<blockquote><p><em>I've been horrified by news coverage of APEC</em></p><p>Can't agree more. It seems at least marginally interesting that the US and Australia failed in their attempt to pull APEC countries out of working within the UN/Kyoto system. Where is that in any New Zealand commentary?</p></blockquote><p>I think they're all still…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>When you've been working in a business for a long stretch and have enjoyed times of mass prosperity, it's hard to see there are any alternatives that will ever generate the profits you've seen generated from doing things same-old-same-old.</p><p>This is true for all parties involved in this.</p></blockquote><p>That's it.…</p>
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				<title>James</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I've been horrified by news coverage of APEC</p></blockquote><p>Can't agree more. It seems at least marginally interesting that the <a href="http://johnquiggin.com/index.php/archives/2007/09/08/the-sydney-declaration-mostly-harmless" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> US and Australia  failed in their attempt to pull APEC countries out of working within the UN/Kyoto system</a>. Where is that in any New Zealand commentary? Morning Report chose instead…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>@ Danielle,</p><p>Yes. Timberjack, 1971 Loxene Golden Disc.</p></blockquote><p>Indeed. But the original version of 'Come to the Sabbat' was not by Black Sabbath, but their compatriots Black Widow.</p>
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						<p>@ Danielle,</p><p>Yes. Timberjack, 1971 Loxene Golden Disc.</p>
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				<title>J Wilkinson</title>
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						<p>When you've been working in a business for a long stretch and have enjoyed times of mass prosperity, it's hard to see there are any alternatives that will ever generate the profits you've seen generated from doing things same-old-same-old.</p><p>This is true for all parties involved in this.</p><p>The ones…</p>
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						<p>I dunno, but it never left my head and pops into memory when anyone has a demonstrable fear of something, sorry Che, but did you read that comment?<br />The Burbclaves harbour deep, deep passions and I would argue that that's where the real innovators are, look around you that accountant…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Che, come, come, come to the burbclaves, Satan's there...(thanks Black Sabbath).</p></blockquote><p>Didn't a NZ band do that song too? I seem to remember it on a Loxene Golden Disc, or some such thing.</p>
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				<title>Danyl Mclauchlan</title>
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				<title>Charles Mabbett</title>
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						Indeed. Advertising and condescending news delivery are my pivotal reasons for turning off television news in general. the fault also lies in  the decision making of what constitutes news and what priority to give it. The conviction of Anthonie Dixon is quashed &ndash; that becomes the lead story for the…
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						<blockquote><p>but then thought, waitaminute, tech people are the leaders in this field &ndash; what they do will set trends for what happens out in the burbclaves.</p></blockquote><p>Che, come, come, come to the burbclaves, Satan's there...(thanks Black Sabbath).</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Under Ralston's watch TVNZ threw away their priceless advantage of "mini-BBC" gravitas and authority and deliberately decided their news was just another vehicle for delivering viewers to advertisers and to market their "reality" shows.</p></blockquote><p>Well, I guess Ralston's as good a scapegoat as anyone... what a shame it just isn't…</p>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<p>First of all, anything half decent on free to air is now so riddled with ads that it is unwatchable, or on at a ludicrous time when I am far better employed doing something else like sleeping or carousing. </p><p>Now I have to choice of buying the DVD or downloading…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sept 2007 12:06:18 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Che Tibby</title>
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						<blockquote><p>At the Great Blend in Auckland I asked for a show of hands on who watched broadcast TV news more than three times a week. From a crowd of 300, not many hands went up</p></blockquote><p>i was going to be pendantic about the audience that vox pop was conducted in…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sept 2007 11:58:52 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Michael  Fitzgerald</title>
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						<p>Being a private company didn't help Air NZ with Ozzy Troop movements/contracts from Political power plays. <br />Strangley it did help with out sourcing to China &amp; mass redundancies?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sept 2007 11:39:24 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Peter Calvert</title>
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						<p>Related to trends towards watching video downloads from TVNZ, and in the context of phishing, I was sufficiently concerned about being asked by TVNZOnDemand to supply all details of my credit card, I canceled the viewing even though they claimed to not want my money.<br />Why do they need my…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sept 2007 11:34:59 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						<p>Holmes + ads = the reasons I stopped watching TV.</p><blockquote><p>TVNZ can't have the Ministry of Culture and Heritage sitting on its shoulder forever.</p></blockquote><p>No shit, these are the guys that think they should be able to shift SH1's route through Wellington's centre without asking for resource consent. I don't…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sept 2007 11:23:36 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						Totally agree it's a soap. Will this be your last post on it?
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				<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sept 2007 11:12:00 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ben Austin</title>
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						<p>I would have thought the trust idea would be quite realistic in NZ, given that TVNZ doesn't have to do the License Fee beg like the BBC does. </p><p>Anyone able to tell me what the freeview picture quality is like in NZ? The picture in the UK reminds  me of…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sept 2007 11:09:11 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Deborah Hill Cone is having login problems and can't post right now, but she wanted to say this:</p><blockquote><p>Would it be possible to set TVNZ up to be owned by an independent trust, in a similar way to the Guardian and Observer? I haven't heard that idea debated but it…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sept 2007 10:50:57 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Public Address</title>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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