Public Address | Cafe | Hard News: The Short and Long of It https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/ en-us Copyright (c) 2026 Public Address Tim Michie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=125537#post125537 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=125537#post125537 Danah boyd questioning the teens don't tweet meme. ]]> Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:23:27 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=124940#post124940 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=124940#post124940 Wed, 05 Aug 2009 16:59:48 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=124938#post124938 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=124938#post124938 Wed, 05 Aug 2009 16:58:37 +1200 Danielle https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=124937#post124937 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=124937#post124937 Wed, 05 Aug 2009 16:57:16 +1200 Kyle Matthews https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=124932#post124932 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=124932#post124932

(I know Hayden writes well, but I lack any interest in sport: I assume posts will meander from the original post there, much as they do in other posts?)

Actually all Haydn's posts start talking about team uniforms. Thankfully we all manage to move the comments onto how the NZRFU…

]]> Wed, 05 Aug 2009 16:48:53 +1200 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=124920#post124920 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=124920#post124920 How'd that work if there are some threads you dont read, tho' Sacha?

(I know Hayden writes well, but I lack any interest in sport: I assume posts will meander from the original post there, much as they do in other posts?)

]]> Wed, 05 Aug 2009 15:44:10 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=124916#post124916 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=124916#post124916 One thing about how the site works which is not amenable to technology – other than through tagging perhaps – is the propensity for authors to start up new threads which duplicate the conversation already happening on other ones.

If the author could just take the time to post a…

]]> Wed, 05 Aug 2009 15:22:58 +1200 Paul Williams https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=124614#post124614 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=124614#post124614 Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:30:27 +1200 Tim Michie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=124377#post124377 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=124377#post124377 Four Facebook Fixes – Farahad Manjoo in Slate. ]]> Mon, 03 Aug 2009 15:19:33 +1200 Joshua Arbury https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123498#post123498 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123498#post123498

If you want Russell to act or think on your view, you may need to quantify "difference".

Just in the formatting really. I guess I am used to blogspot/wordpress type blogs.

This almost seems to sit halfway between a blog and a forum. Which, as I said, isn't necessarily a…

]]> Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:45:07 +1200 Stewart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123494#post123494 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123494#post123494 I tend to take it as a situation where "you come into our house, you act like one of us" .

Having said that, I don't contribute to other blogs or talkboards and am more than happy with the way PAS works.

]]> Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:27:29 +1200 Jackie Clark https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123491#post123491 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123491#post123491 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:05:37 +1200 Joshua Arbury https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123487#post123487 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123487#post123487 I almost don't want to say this, but perhaps there is some truth in the critiques of the way in which PA is formatted.

I "should" love this blog and comment on it all the time. The posts are intelligent and interesting, the comments are generally from intelligent people who…

]]> Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:50:00 +1200 FletcherB https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123484#post123484 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123484#post123484

Nope. Wish I'd thought of it.

That's exactly the right thing to say when you're the sock-puppet operator... :)

]]> Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:40:07 +1200 Isabel Hitchings https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123480#post123480 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123480#post123480 awful at scrabble and other spelling/anagram games and tend to play at the 3 letter word, primary school level. I much prefer cryptic crosswords and games that play with the sounds and meanings of words. Oddly though I rather like the "Take Five" in the Listener. ]]> Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:16:41 +1200 JLM https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123321#post123321 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123321#post123321 Wonderful, Deborah, my sister got failings, but it wasn't the last move.

And I would appreciate the change, Russell, when convenience allows.

(from my niece's tonight)

]]> Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:21:44 +1200 danielpresling https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123170#post123170 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123170#post123170 Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:48:25 +1200 Phil Lyth https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123113#post123113 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123113#post123113

the referendum question

I must plead not guilty. I left Parliament in 2005 after a decade working there. Not for the Office of the Clerk but having frequent contact with them.

82 years old

Yes my Mum was born in 1927 too but sadly she has succumbed to dementia to…

]]> Tue, 28 Jul 2009 09:21:32 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123102#post123102 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123102#post123102 Tue, 28 Jul 2009 01:21:02 +1200 giovanni tiso https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123101#post123101 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123101#post123101

Unmistakeable, you say?

No, unmistakable. Do you want to put down an extra "e"? That's just greedy.

It wasn't Deborah's cat, however.

]]> Tue, 28 Jul 2009 01:09:30 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123100#post123100 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123100#post123100 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aofZFpuvtJY ]]> Tue, 28 Jul 2009 01:06:22 +1200 Deborah https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123099#post123099 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123099#post123099 Sockpuppet!!!

I forgot to mention that I put triangle on a triple word score.

It was a marvellous moment in married life.

]]> Tue, 28 Jul 2009 00:58:53 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123098#post123098 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123098#post123098 Tue, 28 Jul 2009 00:56:57 +1200 giovanni tiso https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123097#post123097 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123097#post123097 Tue, 28 Jul 2009 00:55:24 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123096#post123096 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123096#post123096 Tue, 28 Jul 2009 00:49:44 +1200 giovanni tiso https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123094#post123094 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123094#post123094

Once I used my last seven tiles to make triangle. My husband has not forgiven me, and I haven't played since.

Well, it is after all expressly designed to destroy relationships.

]]> Tue, 28 Jul 2009 00:13:39 +1200 Deborah https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123093#post123093 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123093#post123093 Tue, 28 Jul 2009 00:11:25 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123090#post123090 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123090#post123090 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:29:57 +1200 Kerry Weston https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123089#post123089 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123089#post123089

naughty sock puppet

Gio or Sacha??

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:28:06 +1200 Kerry Weston https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123088#post123088 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123088#post123088

Opiki Chick

actually that's quite cool in a retro Wayne Mason kind of way....

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:20:56 +1200 James Green https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123085#post123085 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123085#post123085

I've seriously considered changing from real name to an alias.

I'm with you on this. Especially as it's likely to still be here in a decade. I think some of the restraint with using full names is good, but I also think I'm much more reluctant to say much personal.

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:09:48 +1200 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123083#post123083 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123083#post123083 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:02:52 +1200 Ian Dalziel https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123082#post123082 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123082#post123082 Upgrade – Log on to blog on, not toboggan...
The general cut and thrust of idea weaving makes threading problematic – but maybe as new ideas or topics come up within a particular blog post, a coloured bullet point could be added, and then the facility to view comments by…

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:59:07 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123072#post123072 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123072#post123072

And I agree with Hilary

Thanks – I'm going to cut that out and frame it. I don't come across that very often in my life.

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:17:21 +1200 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123059#post123059 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123059#post123059 Danielle – interesting.
Both Mary (who has ruined my life by introducing them to me) and self are addicted to codewords/codecrackers...and I collect things like isograms & pangrams. (Almost proudest moment: I made up a pangram that has less letters in it than the classic "A quick brown etc.)
I consider…

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:43:31 +1200 Danielle https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123050#post123050 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123050#post123050

I think this is something you get better at as you get older.

I'm dubious. I am all about words, and yet for some reason rearranging letters to form them is hugely discombobulating. I can never make anything longer than four letters. Crosswords yes (the letters are in a set…

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:23:40 +1200 Naughty Sock Puppet https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123046#post123046 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123046#post123046

I so often forget that this is a public forum and
blather on, then wish I could take stuff back.

This is where not leaving yourself logged in all the time is handy. If I get a compulsion to say things that I might really have cause to regret, I…

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:12:31 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123045#post123045 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123045#post123045 Russell – in your upgrade do you think you could give us a key or a link that could turn back time? Half an hour should be enough.

Islander – thanks for your whakapapa stories last night

Re scrabble. I think this is something you get better at as you…

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:09:47 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123044#post123044 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123044#post123044 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:08:09 +1200 Kerry Weston https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123041#post123041 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123041#post123041 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:42:33 +1200 Kerry Weston https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123040#post123040 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123040#post123040

Well, the evening began at the gentleman's club, where we were discussing Wittgenstein over a game of backgammon.

You just said that coz you haven't got any hair to brush and you thought you could get away with that paisley dressing gown at the gentlemen's club anyway.

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:38:38 +1200 Sofie Bribiesca https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123037#post123037 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123037#post123037 plenty of obscure insider references to keep em busy. So Liza in lead? ]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:36:12 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123032#post123032 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123032#post123032 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:26:24 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123031#post123031 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123031#post123031 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:25:05 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123030#post123030 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123030#post123030 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:24:15 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123029#post123029 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123029#post123029 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:23:14 +1200 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123027#post123027 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123027#post123027 Sacha -that wonderful neologism of *your's* is in the short story called "You see, my noise & moment" & I'll send you a copy just pre-pub-(the small collection is called "Falling Off The Planet")-

and (doffs skullcap – anyone else really disturbed by that word?) thank you so much for the coining!

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:54:48 +1200 giovanni tiso https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123026#post123026 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123026#post123026

So ya better get dressed, brush yr hair and polish up yr wit!

Well, the evening began at the gentleman's club, where we were discussing Wittgenstein over a game of backgammon.

(What? Lying to Kerry's class isn't a felony, is it?)

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:36:10 +1200 Geoff Lealand https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123025#post123025 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123025#post123025

But let's make it worthwhile: does anyone else need a name-change? It's probably best to do it in a batch

Quite happy with my name but I wouldn't mind a few years knocked off my age!

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:28:53 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123021#post123021 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123021#post123021

engaes

I thought you were just showing off a new word in a scrabbley way. :)

Which reminds me, when was that short story of yours featuring a certain local neologism of ours going to be published?

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:16:32 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123020#post123020 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123020#post123020 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:14:41 +1200 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123019#post123019 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123019#post123019 gah – "engages"

(edit button, whimpery please? The preview doesnt do it because I only see what I think I wrote-)

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:08:23 +1200 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123016#post123016 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123016#post123016 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:06:16 +1200 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123015#post123015 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123015#post123015 Jackie – no you wont! You'll be in the house of over 150 dictionaries, and I will relax our rules, and you can consult every one of 'em! (instead of just the OSW & the OSP- because, frankly, they are *limited*...)
And -when the nasty triumverate plays – we always have…

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:03:01 +1200 Kerry Weston https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123014#post123014 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123014#post123014 I'm doing a paper on New Media this semester and have been discussing you lot in class – expect a few new drive-by lurkers to check us out this week. Highly pertinent to our virtual communities topic.

So ya better get dressed, brush yr hair and polish up yr wit!

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:02:33 +1200 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123013#post123013 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123013#post123013 Yeah mark taslov- we've all been playing board games of all kinds (and cards ) for well over half-a-century each...and *all* my mother's kids are really good at words & mind games-
a niece has shown a tendency to dip her head into the swamp (she is bred from the younger…

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:58:35 +1200 Jackie Clark https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123011#post123011 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123011#post123011 .

Is there a better site than Pa/PAS in the entire ANZ blogisphere?

Nope

I concur. Oh, and I suck at scrabble. So if ever I happen to meet you, and manage to not be tonguetied and pathetic, don't take advantage and ask me to play this devilish game. Because I…

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:56:51 +1200 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123003#post123003 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123003#post123003 Is there a better site than Pa/PAS in the entire ANZ blogisphere?

Nope.

I will sincerely appreciate the gift – and please give my note of my appreciation of his work to the twisted artist (I'm a kind of corkscrew one myself.) And thanks to the deeply knowledgable pimp also-

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:07:06 +1200 mark taslov https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123002#post123002 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=123002#post123002

*beat 239 (best score for a single play, which title Mary holds;)
*get more than twelve 7s in one game,
and
*go out using the Kate manouvre – my youngest sister does this with hideous regularity (you go out with a 7 on your last possible turn, leaving your moaning…

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:04:32 +1200 Ian Dalziel https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122997#post122997 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122997#post122997 Great Leaping Lammingtons...

Anyone got a copy of that card showing a herd of full-blown lammingtons rushing over a cliff?

@ Islander: My Publishing Pimp, Mr Wylie, is correct – that is indeed a card I print for Mr Ashley W. Smith Esq (twisted artist extraordinaire of the Port Robinson…

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:23:15 +1200 stephen walker https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122995#post122995 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122995#post122995 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:17:33 +1200 ScottY https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122994#post122994 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122994#post122994

does anyone else need a name-change? It's probably best to do it in a batch.

Yes pls. My temporary "patch" lacks elegance.

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:11:54 +1200 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122990#post122990 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122990#post122990 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:55:49 +1200 Sofie Bribiesca https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122986#post122986 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122986#post122986 I can do this -Great, cos I just about started comparing PAS to Scrabble. ;) ]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:33:01 +1200 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122985#post122985 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122985#post122985

Dunno if anyone has mentioned it yet – I'm on holiday, haven't got time to read 13 pages – but I would like to be able to change my own login name. I'm sick of being anonymous!

Judy Martin

I can do this — but only if Karl from CactusLab…

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:28:21 +1200 JLM https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122984#post122984 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122984#post122984 Brilliant Scott! Like you, I don't want to give up my miserly posting total – it's taken me at least 18 months to get to forty something.

And sofie, sorry, but 13 pages of comments against playing killer scrabble with my sister – no contest! Besides, it's their computer, and…

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:23:08 +1200 Rich Lock https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122980#post122980 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122980#post122980

Now I feel like I've been a naughty boy.

I'm trying very hard not to post obvious and smutty 'should a' jokes at this point.

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:08:10 +1200 ScottY https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122966#post122966 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122966#post122966 So I just put my name in the location part of my profile, which can be changed.

Don't know why it didn't occur to me earlier.

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:19:31 +1200 Steve Barnes https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122964#post122964 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122964#post122964

"Formally known as" in the from column

Ah but. The quote was in quotation marks so the attribution is void.
Pendanty pedanty pendant

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:59:31 +1200 Sofie Bribiesca https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122963#post122963 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122963#post122963 and who relishes the view of some in the Office of the Clerk What? Did you word the referendum question?;) ]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:56:53 +1200 Phil Lyth https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122957#post122957 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122957#post122957 No, ScottY, naughty was saying:

"Formally known as" in the from column

When you really meant "Formerly known as". The new (real) name would be the formal one.


Phil
who is pedantic
and who relishes the view of some in the Office of the Clerk of the House of Representatives…

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:41:15 +1200 ScottY https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122956#post122956 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122956#post122956

This is your penance for not following suggestions:

Now I feel like I've been a naughty boy.

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:31:47 +1200 George Darroch https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122955#post122955 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122955#post122955 This isn't a complaint, rather an observation; when I login I have to put two spaces between my username (george darroch). I'm not sure how that happened, but now I just think of it as a quirk.

This is your penance for not following suggestions:

We prefer that you use…

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:28:34 +1200 giovanni tiso https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122953#post122953 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122953#post122953

sign up under your real name then put 418 posts on the end of the copyright thread

That's diabolically clever.

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:18:01 +1200 Kyle Matthews https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122952#post122952 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122952#post122952

But if I sign up under my real name my posts count goes back to zero and everyone will think I'm new to PAS.

This is your penance for not following suggestions:

We prefer that you use your full name as your username, thanks.

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:17:35 +1200 Phil Lyth https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122951#post122951 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122951#post122951

But if I sign up under my real name my posts count goes back to zero

Didn't happen for me on PAS, got noticed from post #1. But if it's important to you, sign up under your real name then put 418 posts on the end of the copyright thread:…

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:14:23 +1200 Steve Barnes https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122950#post122950 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122950#post122950 You could put "Formally known as" in the from column along with "been here since ~ and had # posts before so don't treat me as a newbie" annat.
;-)

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:13:51 +1200 ScottY https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122949#post122949 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122949#post122949

Dunno if anyone has mentioned it yet – I'm on holiday, haven't got time to read 13 pages – but I would like to be able to change my own login name. I'm sick of being anonymous!

Seconded. But if I sign up under my real name my posts count…

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:07:31 +1200 Sofie Bribiesca https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122942#post122942 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122942#post122942 I'm on holiday, haven't got time to read 13 pages - ???? I'd suggest you could take time out for a cuppa and a read, it is afterall a holiday. :) ]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:40:42 +1200 Jason Kemp https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122937#post122937 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122937#post122937 Hi Hilary,

Yes of course – the people coming along are from incredibly diverse backgrounds and include Miraz Jordan, Jo Macleod (Hubris) , Robyn Gallagher and a fair few others well known here at PAS and elsewhere.

http://www.givealittle.co.nz , http://ymediachallenge.co.nz/ and others

Wordcamp is as much about what happens next…

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:31:05 +1200 Steve Barnes https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122936#post122936 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122936#post122936

Dunno if anyone has mentioned it yet – I'm on holiday, haven't got time to read 13 pages – but I would like to be able to change my own login name. I'm sick of being anonymous!
Judy Martin

Simple Judy. Just sign up again under your real name, new…

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:19:02 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122935#post122935 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122935#post122935 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:16:39 +1200 Jason Kemp https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122933#post122933 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122933#post122933 Giovanni – OK wrong example for a useful analogy. My apologies for coffee growers everywhere.

Hopefully most readers will understand wordcamp / wordPress are about trying to take away the process pain so that content generation and facilitation is easier.

Also WordPress an Open Source system where users make voluntary…

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:12:26 +1200 giovanni tiso https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122932#post122932 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122932#post122932

We can get all distracted by the any number of things in the coffee making process like – are the beans freshly roasted and so on. Important to a point but really we just want a good cup of coffee.

Boy, did you choose the wrong example! :-)

I'm now…

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:00:00 +1200 Jason Kemp https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122931#post122931 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122931#post122931 Firstly thanks for all the publicity about wordcamp and WordPress. As one of the organisers I can't help but feel flattered by the attention.

There are 15m+ blogs & wordpress based sites some with thousands of users – lets not tar everyone with the same brush.

Opinion is the currency of…

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:57:23 +1200 JLM https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122928#post122928 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122928#post122928 Dunno if anyone has mentioned it yet – I'm on holiday, haven't got time to read 13 pages – but I would like to be able to change my own login name. I'm sick of being anonymous!

Judy Martin

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:46:00 +1200 giovanni tiso https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122914#post122914 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122914#post122914

Islander -Thanks for the reference to that site. I couldn't find the autochthony bit but what a lovely blogsite. Has links to my favourite History Workshop Journal and also I noted Giovanni's Bat Bean Beam with a beautiful recent post on his father.

Thank you Hilary, you're very kind. And…

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2009 08:45:23 +1200 Kong https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122904#post122904 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122904#post122904

Kong, I ride on the shoulders of giants and numberless unknown experimenters with the most inclusive (not to mention devouring) language we humans have yet invented-*

Don't we all?

Standardisation and simplification is poison to English.

Sometimes, sometimes not. Depends what purpose you are talking about. For precise communication standardization…

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2009 00:19:26 +1200 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122902#post122902 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122902#post122902 Sun, 26 Jul 2009 23:25:36 +1200 James Green https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122901#post122901 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122901#post122901 @Kong. Not seriously advocating EN_GB. However, from memory, the solution to installing your own dictionary was complicated, and for most here EN_GB better than EN_US

Think of it how you will, but leveling and others make my skin crawl. Standardisation and simplification is poison to English. It's its own evolving…

]]> Sun, 26 Jul 2009 23:12:54 +1200 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122899#post122899 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122899#post122899 Kong, I ride on the shoulders of giants and numberless unknown experimenters with the most inclusive (not to mention devouring) language we humans have yet invented-*

if I could only include actual colour & smells!

And hey, take the piss by all means – I maybe (given the nature of english)…

]]> Sun, 26 Jul 2009 23:07:20 +1200 Kong https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122898#post122898 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122898#post122898 Sun, 26 Jul 2009 22:59:16 +1200 Phil Lyth https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122897#post122897 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122897#post122897

the thump-up

So we're getting back to the referendum debate?

Thank goodness that these days Russ and David are only posting twice a week, it means the comments can really explore interesting stuff . . .

]]> Sun, 26 Jul 2009 22:33:48 +1200 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122896#post122896 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122896#post122896 Hilary – re parents et al: by the time I got to 45 – and realised I was still alive (hey! I'm slow!) and 3 years older then than my father ever got to be – I became *VERY* interested in all kinds of whakapapa...

I mean, I'd researched the…

]]> Sun, 26 Jul 2009 22:20:38 +1200 Don Christie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122895#post122895 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122895#post122895 You think Lance gave it bad to you?

Just thank your stars you're not NBR:

http://lancewiggs.com/2009/07/24/nbr-continues-their-descent-into-madness/

]]> Sun, 26 Jul 2009 21:43:56 +1200 Jackie Clark https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122894#post122894 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122894#post122894 Re the rest of your -not quite coherent- post – WTF?Literary giant and concise, to boot. Heart you, Islander. ]]> Sun, 26 Jul 2009 21:19:01 +1200 Jeremy Andrew https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122893#post122893 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122893#post122893

Isn't she is the adult film actress who entered Italian politics?

Don't make me get out the Italian stereotype bingo card, 'kay?

Noted. I'll refrain from mentioning the Italian politician who entered... etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PHQ3yGcCmU

]]> Sun, 26 Jul 2009 21:12:53 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122892#post122892 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122892#post122892 Dance of the autochthons
reminds me of another of my favourite words – numinous.
My mother left a lovely piece of writing to be read at her funeral on the theme of numinosity.

Islander – hearing about your father makes me appreciate both my parents (both dead now) even more.…

]]> Sun, 26 Jul 2009 20:42:08 +1200 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122891#post122891 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122891#post122891 I speak & write dialectual Kiwi English – among other forms of English.
I've learned, over the years, apostrophes are a moveable feast.
Re the rest of your -not quite coherent- post – WTF?

]]> Sun, 26 Jul 2009 20:41:45 +1200 Kong https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122890#post122890 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122890#post122890

US spelling is anaethema to this person- it's erratic, and excludes the innate linguistic history of some words. And, a rather large lercentage of English users/writers – dont use it-

sorry Kong -aint persuaded (& yep, deliberate usage there-)

You're jerking my chain, right? The lercentage (I know this is not…

]]> Sun, 26 Jul 2009 20:24:52 +1200 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122889#post122889 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122889#post122889 Hilary – 24th January 2009 for "The Dance of the Autochons"...

I am about to try friendly advice about how to embed site refs-

that blog-post of Mr Tiso's re his father is *wonderful*. Wish I'd had a father about whom I could write so well and lovingly-

(my father…

]]> Sun, 26 Jul 2009 19:56:37 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122888#post122888 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122888#post122888 father. ]]> Sun, 26 Jul 2009 19:29:51 +1200 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122887#post122887 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122887#post122887 Hilary – 'autochothon' was the first 'big word' I learned from reading science fiction (ur, in 1958...)
There's a lovely post in "Reading the Maps" (blog site...one day, soon as I win Lotto, I will hire me a Mac geek who will teach me to embed such a site in…

]]> Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:18:21 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122886#post122886 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122886#post122886 Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:12:04 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122885#post122885 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122885#post122885 Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:04:02 +1200 Joe Wylie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122884#post122884 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122884#post122884

Anyone got a copy of that card showing a herd of full-blown lammingtons rushing over a cliff?

Ian Dalziel's the man for such things. The artist is Ashley Smith.

]]> Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:02:21 +1200 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122883#post122883 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122883#post122883 Oooo Joe!
The lamington could convey – quite a lot (according to cultural heritage & sensitivities!)

Anyone got a copy of that card showing a herd of full-blown lammingtons rushing over a cliff?

]]> Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:57:26 +1200 Joe Wylie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122882#post122882 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122882#post122882

How about the kind of emoticons – for when we feel especially delighted or saddened – that some other sites (I am thinking of AVEN)
have?

I'd award you three exquisitely-rendered teeny little kumera for that suggestion. Jackie, of course, would always have a sackful for unfailing niceness.

Just to…

]]> Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:51:59 +1200 3410 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122881#post122881 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122881#post122881

... and excludes the innate linguistic history of some words

Yes! It's not about how words look, but how they work.

]]> Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:51:50 +1200 Emma Hart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122880#post122880 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122880#post122880

I agree it's against the ethos of the site. You like somebody's comment, you can always point it out through them whatchamacallem, words.

F'n'ay.

]]> Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:48:55 +1200 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122879#post122879 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122879#post122879 US spelling is anaethema to this person- it's erratic, and excludes the innate linguistic history of some words. And, a rather large lercentage of English users/writers – dont use it-

sorry Kong -aint persuaded (& yep, deliberate usage there-)

]]> Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:46:45 +1200 3410 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122878#post122878 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122878#post122878

thumbs up/down

I'd like to take this opportunity to reiterate my very strong support for motherhood and apple pie.

]]> Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:44:26 +1200 Kong https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122877#post122877 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122877#post122877 @James Green

US spelling ain't perfect. But it's closer to it.

]]> Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:38:07 +1200 Jackie Clark https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122876#post122876 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122876#post122876 Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:30:01 +1200 giovanni tiso https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122875#post122875 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122875#post122875 Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:20:50 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122874#post122874 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122874#post122874 Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:13:20 +1200 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122873#post122873 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122873#post122873 Really *hate* the idea of voting/ranking – I think it against the ethos of this site.
Mind you, I'd give Jackie Clark – and at least 30 others, a thumbs up any time...
How about the kind of emoticons – for when we feel especially delighted or saddened – that…

]]> Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:04:09 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122872#post122872 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122872#post122872 Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:55:47 +1200 Steve Barnes https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122871#post122871 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122871#post122871 And somewhere a child waits......
Silently for a pun.
;-)

]]> Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:50:04 +1200 Danielle https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122870#post122870 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122870#post122870 Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:07:32 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122869#post122869 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122869#post122869 Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:03:04 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122868#post122868 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122868#post122868

I, too, Deborah would be thumbs upping to all your comments.

But because they're good ones, right, not just because you like each other?

]]> Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:00:52 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122867#post122867 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122867#post122867 Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:59:55 +1200 Steve Barnes https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122866#post122866 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122866#post122866 Way to get sidetracked.
Anypoo. How about a button under our ID column, like the one to send eMail, to send other stuff, great tie in opportunities for Russell there. We could have things like "Send a Flower" through Interflora or what have you. Or send a Pony for those…

]]> Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:37:25 +1200 Jackie Clark https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122864#post122864 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122864#post122864 Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:29:44 +1200 Steve Barnes https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122863#post122863 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122863#post122863 more ]]> Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:27:31 +1200 Steve Barnes https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122862#post122862 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122862#post122862 Opera comes from Norway, I didn't know that.
Norway is, in some ways similar to New Zealand but not many.

]]> Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:25:00 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122860#post122860 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122860#post122860

I still can't understand why it only has 2% of the browser market.

Not from the US of A?

]]> Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:53:04 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122859#post122859 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122859#post122859

Embitteringly, that te reo plugin is not compatible with 3.5.1

Being a late adopter triumphs again. :)

]]> Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:52:16 +1200 Steve Barnes https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122858#post122858 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122858#post122858 All the spellcheckers I've encountered are monolingual and that's just wrong. I'd love it if they were able to accommodate more than one language at any one time, for reasons of obviousness.I run several browsers for different reasons but tend to use Opera for PAS. Opera has a spellcheck add… ]]> Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:50:58 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122857#post122857 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122857#post122857

Peer rating sounds very scary. Sort of like a popularity contest but more detailed as to why people don't like you.

Jackie, I just meant the one click thumbs-up thing for each post – certainly not for the person as a whole.

I trust that enough readers here would guide…

]]> Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:50:56 +1200 James Green https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122855#post122855 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122855#post122855 @Kong — US spelling is silly. A very few superficial changes, while not really addressing the core issues. Why change honour to honor, when it could just be onor, for example?

Embitteringly, that te reo plugin is not compatible with 3.5.1 :(

]]> Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:26:07 +1200 Deborah https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122852#post122852 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122852#post122852 @Jackie

Sort of like a popularity contest but more detailed as to why people don't like you. I would fail. Very badly.

You would win, muchly. I would click the thumbs-up every time I saw your name.

Apropos of edits: I clicked preview and corrected this little error...

the thump-up

…

]]> Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:17:30 +1200 Kong https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122851#post122851 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122851#post122851 meant a word in, so it would stop picking up typos (one of the main… ]]> Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:13:33 +1200 Emma Hart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122850#post122850 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122850#post122850

Maybe let me click on the last post before I go away,

We had this on the second-to-last build of Bardic Web, and it was great. Basically, a little pin you could stick next to a comment for whatever reason – I've read up to here, I need to go…

]]> Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:09:34 +1200 Jackie Clark https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122849#post122849 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122849#post122849

Some form of peer rating

Nightmare!

Peer rating sounds very scary. Sort of like a popularity contest but more detailed as to why people don't like you. I would fail. Very badly.

]]> Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:59:12 +1200 giovanni tiso https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122846#post122846 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122846#post122846

Some form of peer rating

Nightmare!

Agree, I miss Usenet but not quite that much.

]]> Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:44:26 +1200 Danielle https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122845#post122845 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122845#post122845

Some form of peer rating

Nightmare!

]]> Sun, 26 Jul 2009 08:27:38 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122841#post122841 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122841#post122841 Ah, interfaces. Many ideas, happy to provide more detail offline if desired. Realise some of them may be beyond current priorities/budgets but hopefully may resonate at some stage.

Edit for five minutes seems to work elsewhere. Echoing others upthread, I vote for preview to refresh any new posts – and…

]]> Sat, 25 Jul 2009 22:55:07 +1200 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122840#post122840 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122840#post122840 Sat, 25 Jul 2009 22:21:38 +1200 Stephen Judd https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122839#post122839 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122839#post122839 Te Papakupu Māori, which is a plugin for Thunderbird and Firefox. It's not tested enough to be part of the main FF distribution yet, so if anyone at PAS were to download and have a play with it AND submit bug reports, that… ]]> Sat, 25 Jul 2009 22:11:45 +1200 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122838#post122838 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122838#post122838 Stephen Judd – great news!
Ngata dictionary- and if that isnt free-but-for-acknowledgment, Kia Tahu would work on't- cheers!

]]> Sat, 25 Jul 2009 21:40:29 +1200 Stephen Judd https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122837#post122837 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122837#post122837 land of the free, I just install dictionaries for whatever language I like, and when I'm composing email (using Evolution) I tell… ]]> Sat, 25 Jul 2009 21:22:57 +1200 Heather W. https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122836#post122836 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122836#post122836 So please, in the upgrade could you tell us when and where it is aired and provide a link. I have no idea where Radio Live is on the dial – this is a Radio NZ house, and I strenuously avoid radio with ads – but I see you can… ]]> Sat, 25 Jul 2009 21:06:41 +1200 Isabel Hitchings https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122835#post122835 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122835#post122835 Kong

That one's easy: Address them by name as the first thing in your post. If necessary, quote a snippet of what it is you're replying to. It's a good habit anyway, for disambiguation, and other-reader convenience.

I do that. I even do that on sites where you reply to…

]]> Sat, 25 Jul 2009 20:52:13 +1200 giovanni tiso https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122834#post122834 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122834#post122834 Sat, 25 Jul 2009 20:50:53 +1200 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122833#post122833 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122833#post122833 Sat, 25 Jul 2009 20:49:03 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122831#post122831 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122831#post122831 Sat, 25 Jul 2009 20:06:38 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122830#post122830 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122830#post122830 I have just spent a good while trying to find out when and where I can hear Public Address Radio. No help from this site at all apart from being able to hear some extracts from earlier programmes.

So please, in the upgrade could you tell us when and where…

]]> Sat, 25 Jul 2009 20:05:28 +1200 Kong https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122827#post122827 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122827#post122827 Isabel

No to threading but a way to directly reply to posts and maybe to notify people when they have been directly replied to would be good.

That one's easy: Address them by name as the first thing in your post. If necessary, quote a snippet of what it is…

]]> Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:13:51 +1200 James Green https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122826#post122826 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122826#post122826 Sat, 25 Jul 2009 17:21:26 +1200 Raymond A Francis https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122825#post122825 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122825#post122825 Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:50:31 +1200 Raymond A Francis https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122824#post122824 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122824#post122824 I have long had the same problem with log in, apparently something to do with the history memory cache?
These are just words and don't really mean anything to me but I do note that I don't have this problem on other sites
I, as others have noted would like…

]]> Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:47:38 +1200 3410 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122823#post122823 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122823#post122823

3410, I have the same problem, and I have ticked that box *many* times.

I should've realised it wouldn't be quite that easy. :)

]]> Sat, 25 Jul 2009 14:16:41 +1200 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122822#post122822 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122822#post122822 Sat, 25 Jul 2009 14:15:17 +1200 Jackie Clark https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122821#post122821 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122821#post122821 Sat, 25 Jul 2009 14:03:02 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122820#post122820 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122820#post122820 Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:47:16 +1200 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122818#post122818 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122818#post122818 Sat, 25 Jul 2009 12:59:43 +1200 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122817#post122817 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122817#post122817 Jackie – Jackie Sturm is a wonderful writer – and woman. Yer best kind of librarian, and sharp as-

Spiral collective #5 (Iri Ramsden, Marian Evans, and Miriama Evans) was formed to publish 3 books. among them an excellent collection of short stories entitled "The House of the Talking Cat",…

]]> Sat, 25 Jul 2009 12:54:35 +1200 3410 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122816#post122816 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122816#post122816

One thing though, I keep being logged out of PAS after a few minutes of not posting. Doesn't happen in other sites. Is that a feature or a bug?

Tick the box below login that says "Stay logged on to this computer?"

]]> Sat, 25 Jul 2009 12:42:16 +1200 Paul Campbell https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122814#post122814 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122814#post122814 Sat, 25 Jul 2009 12:31:32 +1200 Isabel Hitchings https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122812#post122812 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122812#post122812 Top of my list would be something to indicate which comments have and haven't been read – I've sometimes given up on longer, fast moving, threads because I just can't figure out where I'm up to.

No to threading but a way to directly reply to posts and maybe to…

]]> Sat, 25 Jul 2009 11:53:11 +1200 Jackie Clark https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122810#post122810 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122810#post122810 Sat, 25 Jul 2009 10:52:44 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122807#post122807 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122807#post122807 Giovanni, you go up even more in my estimation.

Whatever the attribution It still sounds like a Harry Potter spell, as some astute Potterphile noted upthread.

]]> Sat, 25 Jul 2009 09:14:32 +1200 Peter Ashby https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122806#post122806 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122806#post122806 Sat, 25 Jul 2009 03:13:44 +1200 Peter Ashby https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122805#post122805 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122805#post122805 Sat, 25 Jul 2009 03:12:26 +1200 Ben Austin https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122804#post122804 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122804#post122804 What I don't get is why anyone would think it necessary or worthwhile to make a complaint about the use of .net in a domain. Or was that a point about marketing/ SEO that I just don't get?

Also, I add my vote to keeping your posts in the current…

]]> Sat, 25 Jul 2009 03:07:13 +1200 mark taslov https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122802#post122802 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122802#post122802

just being south...

I hope you had a nice time, probably not such a bad time to not have internet access.

re: the site, could I suggest ever so slightly larger avatars or would that take up too much space?

]]> Sat, 25 Jul 2009 01:11:54 +1200 Mark Harris https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122800#post122800 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122800#post122800 Sat, 25 Jul 2009 00:39:42 +1200 mark taslov https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122798#post122798 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122798#post122798

You're lucky pal, I was sooo going to tell the whole group... then where'd you be aye?

I sense an element of duress contributed to Mr Tiso's admission.

]]> Fri, 24 Jul 2009 23:50:17 +1200 Paul Williams https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122797#post122797 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122797#post122797

The shame! But it's a testimony to the class of the PAS readership that somebody pointed this out to me discreetly via email rather than exposing me to the public humiliation that I most assuredly deserved.

You're lucky pal, I was sooo going to tell the whole group... then where'd…

]]> Fri, 24 Jul 2009 23:08:52 +1200 Rich of Observationz https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122796#post122796 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122796#post122796

Stupid SMTP should have filters for that kind of thing.

I hate to point out an advantage of MS proprietary stuff over Internet standards, but Exchange has done "recall" for several years now. It even works, sometimes.

]]> Fri, 24 Jul 2009 23:03:27 +1200 Caleb D'Anvers https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122795#post122795 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122795#post122795 I hate harping on about Metafilter, but another rather nice feature it has goes like this. Members have profile pages, and when you create your profile, there is a large list of "social" sites (Librarything, LastFM, Linkedin, whatever) and you can add all the ones that you belong to if… ]]> Fri, 24 Jul 2009 22:22:24 +1200 giovanni tiso https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122794#post122794 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122794#post122794

Lance's complaint is blocked in China.

Yeah, sorry, I did that.

On a different topic: earlier today on this very thread I unaccountably attributed the poem M'illumino d'immenso to Giosuè Carducci, whereas of course it's by Giuseppe Ungaretti. The shame! But it's a testimony to the class of the PAS…

]]> Fri, 24 Jul 2009 22:21:32 +1200 Rich of Observationz https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122793#post122793 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122793#post122793

Don't make me get out the Italian stereotype bingo card, 'kay?

You'll be telling us you don't like techno next..

]]> Fri, 24 Jul 2009 22:19:44 +1200 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122792#post122792 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122792#post122792 Hilary, that's when we go out of the kitchen into the garden & have a good old natter under the moon (or the evening sun...)

mark taslov- 'nother thread, 'nother comment from you: response: nah, not doing jury duty, just being south...it was the kind of trial (of Clayton W.) that…

]]> Fri, 24 Jul 2009 22:17:52 +1200 mark taslov https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122791#post122791 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122791#post122791 Fri, 24 Jul 2009 22:02:22 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122790#post122790 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122790#post122790

CTRL+, CTRL- and CTRL-0 work in IE and Firefox on Windows for myself.

It works, wonderful thanks, nice big font. Good, I'll be able to keep reading PA till I'm 100.

But I'm not so sure about the party analogy – I'm one of those people who has to find…

]]> Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:58:33 +1200 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122789#post122789 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122789#post122789 Ooo Jackie – I'm with the Shambols too!
(O, also the shrdlus...has anyone got a recording of the encounter between the last desert shrdlu & and the laaaast desert kumquat?)

]]> Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:54:42 +1200 Jackie Clark https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122788#post122788 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122788#post122788 Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:45:38 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122786#post122786 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122786#post122786 Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:34:42 +1200 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122785#post122785 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122785#post122785 Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:33:10 +1200 Evan Yates https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122784#post122784 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122784#post122784 PA (and PAS) has been so popular for me that my workplace has now blocked the whole domain.

I have to wait until I get home to read it now. My commenting (while never hugely frequent or insightful) has dropped right off. I never seem to have anything new to…

]]> Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:29:36 +1200 Deborah https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122783#post122783 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122783#post122783

OMG. You are joe's spleen!

Actually, Danielle, that's Stephen's tongue, prominently displayed on his Metafilter page.

I really think Stephen ought to have warned us before he posted that link.

]]> Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:17:39 +1200 81stcolumn https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122781#post122781 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122781#post122781

Consider the 'What was I thinking?!' comment a rite of passage. We've all done it. :)

I just worry when I get that feeling again and again and again......

Is there any point in beefing up the search tool ?

For me a good PAS thread is like a big…

]]> Fri, 24 Jul 2009 20:51:01 +1200 Danielle https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122780#post122780 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122780#post122780 Fri, 24 Jul 2009 20:19:00 +1200 Stephen Judd https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122779#post122779 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122779#post122779

We can add that field.

I hate harping on about Metafilter, but another rather nice feature it has goes like this. Members have profile pages, and when you create your profile, there is a large list of "social" sites (Librarything, LastFM, Linkedin, whatever) and you can add all the ones…

]]> Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:49:26 +1200 Michael Homer https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122778#post122778 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122778#post122778 Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:42:05 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122777#post122777 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122777#post122777 Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:04:46 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122776#post122776 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122776#post122776 Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:58:17 +1200 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122775#post122775 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122775#post122775 Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:58:09 +1200 Kong https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122774#post122774 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122774#post122774 Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:56:25 +1200 Emma Hart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122773#post122773 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122773#post122773

My understanding was that the true pagerank formula was one of Google's best kept secrets

I believe this explains it.

]]> Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:51:27 +1200 Kong https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122772#post122772 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122772#post122772 My understanding was that the true pagerank formula was one of Google's best kept secrets, for perfectly understandable competitive advantage reasons. Also if people don't know the exact system, they can't find the loopholes so easily.

I'd guess that dropping pagerank for lots of outbound links to low pagerank sites…

]]> Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:46:04 +1200 Ben Gracewood https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122771#post122771 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122771#post122771

A whole page of links to (mostly) low-traffic sites would pretty much nuke our Google ranking

If true, that's really interesting. I had no idea that outbound links counted against one's pagerank. I thought nofollow was just to stop spam commenters from
gaining any of your Google juice.

]]> Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:33:25 +1200 Graeme Edgeler https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122770#post122770 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122770#post122770

I say 'no!' to threaded conversations. They drive me bonkers in other places and I imagine they would here too.

I'm the same. So that request is almost certainly going to fall afoul of my personal preferences ...

I've seen one place where it worked really well: The old Sir…

]]> Fri, 24 Jul 2009 17:58:56 +1200 Kong https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122769#post122769 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122769#post122769 Fri, 24 Jul 2009 17:56:19 +1200 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122768#post122768 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122768#post122768

Russ, one improvement could be to allow people to add their Twitter (or identi.ca) name to their profile, like we do with email and websites.

Good idea. We can add that field.

I was also thinking of an automatically-populated list of all the websites people enter in their profiles.

But…

]]> Fri, 24 Jul 2009 17:44:33 +1200 Kong https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122767#post122767 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122767#post122767 Fri, 24 Jul 2009 17:39:42 +1200 Kumara Republic https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122766#post122766 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-short-and-long-of-it/?p=122766#post122766 Fri, 24 Jul 2009 17:34:07 +1200