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				<title>WH</title>
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						<p><q>Greenwald's venture with Omidyar will, it seems, have more money to play with than either of them.</p><p>They've already launched The Intercept, which will be an outlet for all the Snowden documents that Greenwald holds. It's an oddly bare-bones site.</q></p><p>If I remember correctly, you linked to a Greenwald appearance…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2014 11:30:43 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>This is my latest cover art<br />(and yes, Chad got clearance on the collage elements)</q><br />And very handsome it looks too in my freshly-downloaded DRM-free EPUB, which for the iTunes phobic can be found <a href="https://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/chadtaylor" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">here</a>.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2014 11:29:28 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						Nah, I'm fairly convinced Fairfax and NZ Herald have had that for ages. Quake rocks Wellington/Christchurch/Waikekamukau every time a quake of over threshold gets detected by geonet.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2014 10:28:05 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Ezra Klein and Nate Silver are doing something new. The opportunity is open to anyone willing to take the risk.</q></p><p>Greenwald's venture with Omidyar will, it seems, have more money to play with than either of them.</p><p>They've already launched <a href="https://firstlook.org/theintercept/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Intercept</a>, which will be an outlet for all the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2014 08:36:58 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>Mea culpa</strong><br /><q>Should we add a credit? <br />Or not?</q><br />Hmmmm…<br />Why not? <br />Hell, yes! <br />I’m not planning on leaving a headstone anywhere else…<br />…and the web is forever isn’t it?</p><p>and I think me and Bryan thought it was okay at the time – ’82!!</p><p>You should see my Strange…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2014 08:36:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>he opportunity is open to anyone willing to take the risk.</q></p><p>or able</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2014 07:34:11 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Oh no!<br />You’ve put my badly drawn Tommy Adderley <br />‘Gimme that Wine’ cover in that story <br />&ndash; oh well, that’s immortality for ya…</q></p><p>Ha! Should we add a credit? Or not?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2014 07:32:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>even newer new news</strong><br /><a href="http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-26614051" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Robocopy</a>  is here!<br /><q> The Los Angeles Times was the first newspaper to publish a story about an earthquake on Monday &ndash; thanks to a robot writer.<br />Journalist and programmer Ken Schwencke created an algorithm that automatically generates a short article when an earthquake occurs.<br /></q></p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2014 06:31:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q> HiTunes: The Top 10 New Zealand Songs About Drugs.</q><br />Oh no!<br />You've put my badly drawn Tommy Adderley <br />'Gimme that Wine' cover in that story <br />&ndash; oh well, that's immortality for ya...</p><p>;- )</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2014 06:17:22 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>contentment</strong><br /><q> All of this takes time. That’s why we’ve elected to sacrifice something else as opposed to accuracy or accessibility. The sacrifice is speed —  we’re rarely going to be the first organization to break news or to comment on a story. </q><br />538 is being realistic &ndash; but are enough…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2014 04:36:29 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>podcastrati<br />= high users?</q><br />or <em>return alto delete </em><br />or is it <em>delete return alto</em></p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2014 04:20:36 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Dan Slevin</title>
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						And I just read this post and all the comment in a FB referrer window. And I _never_ do that!
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2014 01:49:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>WH</title>
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						<p>As difficult as it can be to make a point without first referring to French High Theory and claiming the endorsement of Dr Seuss, I'm not sure you can fairly ask someone's week-old startup to solve the problems of the world as you see them.</p><p>Ezra Klein and Nate Silver…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2014 01:19:57 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Content rules! But try convincing ad agencies of that.</q></p><p>Oh, quite. The whole thing's a bit depressing.</p><p>One particularly vexing thing at the moment is that some of them think "native content" is some sort of magic incantation that will make rank, unconvincing advertorial something other than what it is.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2014 21:32:30 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>David Hood</title>
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						Was this the <a href="http://blog.rjmetrics.com/2013/11/21/buzzfeed-posts-whats-the-magic-number-for-best-of-lists/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">list length article</a>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2014 20:01:39 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Mark Graham</title>
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						Content rules! But try convincing ad agencies of that.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2014 17:10:10 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						Nah, top 7. That’s roughly the size of the human memory queue, plus or minus 2. The average random list length that people can recall on one hearing, and say back. You can make it 11, but most people are only going to remember 7.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2014 16:47:43 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jeremy Andrew</title>
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						<p><q>podcastrati= high users?</q></p><p>Very Impotent People</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2014 16:38:37 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>TracyMac</title>
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						I am not quite sure what medium.com's model is &ndash; "prestigious blog platform"? &ndash; or how they get revenue, but they do have some excellent writers.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2014 15:41:30 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>linger</title>
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						<q>podcastrati </q> = high users?
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2014 15:30:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jason Kemp</title>
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						<p>There is an old saying “follow the money” and in many ways data based journalism offers a point of focus. I like the idea that there is greater analysis of the data in the way that stories are picked and presented on the new 538 site. </p><p>We live in an…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2014 15:24:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>*I don’t really think that, apologies if we come across that way.</q></p><p>And you <em>know</em> I wasn't talking about you.</p><p>I'm more worried about you guys eating my lunch ;-)</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2014 14:43:54 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>The Ruminator</title>
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						<p>Good lord. This post caused me to go look at the stable of writers who write for us and that's a very pasty palette staring back. </p><p>Must try harder.</p><p>Also, never let having nothing to say get in the way of saying it loudly and obnoxiously. If you're not adding…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2014 14:17:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						I read somewhere that "top X" lists are more enticing when it's an odd number of items. A top 10 sounds too neat, like surely there's been at least one good one left off. If it's, say, a top 11, then it seems like it's a definitive best-of list.
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				<title>Nik Dirga</title>
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						The dismaying thing (to me anyway) is seeing how avidly "mainstream" sites jump all over the Buzzfeed model of "hey, isn't this thing cool?" rather than actually trying to advance the dialogue or educate readers about something more interesting than the fact Lady Gaga got vomited on. There's a place…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2014 12:44:09 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>So yes, better than geek culture in general, but hardly diversity central either. Emily Bell has a point, and I don’t think it should be dismissed because of one bad line</q></p><p>The wider point is an important one, but it seems an odd thing to pin on Silver. It would…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2014 12:17:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Keir Leslie</title>
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						Take Vox though --- it's a collection of Washington insiders who have been bouncing around various places looking for a home for the past 10 years, and now they don't need institutional backing. I don't think it's a surprise that <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/09/fashion/09bloghouse.html?pagewanted=all&amp;_r=0" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">these</a> people turn out to be kind of a clique.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2014 12:16:45 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Deborah</title>
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						Indeed.  But <a href="http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/mar/12/journalism-startups-diversity-ezra-klein-nate-silver" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">"clubhouse chemistry"</a>, and of the nineteen editorial staff hired so far, only six are women (per <a href="http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/fivethirtyeight-hiring-update/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">the update on the FiveThirtyEight site</a>, which I looked up just now).  So yes, better than geek culture in general, but hardly diversity central either.  Emily Bell has a point, and I…
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						I do actually think it's unfair to compare Silver's venture with Silicon valley broculture though. If you look at <a href="http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/fivethirtyeight-hiring-update/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">the list of hires he shared earlier in the month</a>, the one-third of the editorial team who are women includes some star journalists in very senior roles (including lead blog writer…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2014 11:36:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Moz</title>
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						<q>Public Address, ironically, is more like the newspapers than those blogs. When we could afford to buy the Nielsen surveys, Public Address consistently topped rankings for time spent on site and on each page, and, mostly notably, engagement as measured by active contributions to the site. It's a precious thing.</q>…
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				<title>Deborah</title>
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						<p>Here's another piece on the Nate-Silver-hiring-lots-of-white-dudes issue.</p><p><a href="https://medium.com/technology-and-society/2f1fe84c5c9b" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">No, Nate, brogrammers may not be macho, but that’s not all there is to it: How French High Theory and Dr. Seuss can help explain Silicon Valley’s Gender Blindspots</a> </p><p>... by Zeynep Tufekci, writing in the Technology and Society column for medium.com.  About…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2014 11:24:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Unlike Huffington, presumably Buzzfeed is paying its writers. So there’s that.</q></p><p>Yes, and paying them for actual skills and experience, rather than just their reckons.</p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						Unlike Huffington, presumably Buzzfeed is paying its writers. So there's that.
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>In The Guardian, Emily Bell <a href="http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/mar/12/journalism-startups-diversity-ezra-klein-nate-silver" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">makes the point that this new vanguard is still mostly white dudes</a> (albeit, in Silver's case, out-gay geeky white dudes), but rather spoils it with this line:</p><p><q>It is as if Arianna Huffington never happened.</q></p><p>Ahem.</p>
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						<p><a href="http://www.birminghampost.co.uk/business/creative/rethink-media-bcu-buzzfeed-vice-president-6841012" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">An interesting Q&amp;A with Buzzfeed's VP Jonathan Perelman</a>, who'll be talking some more about Buzzfeed's plans at a conference next week:</p><p><q>Everything we have created we have done through the eyes of ‘will this be shared across the social web, and who will share it? Will it share better on Twitter,…</q></p>
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