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"chris"

Mon, 27 May 2013 19:18:18 +1200

Is it a better world? Or just one with new problems?

I'm not convinced that the world is better or that our current versions have wrought new problems. Voyeurism, narcissism, materialism and advertising have been upgraded, and the issues or gizmos du jour stand on the shoulders of antecedents.

andin

Fri, 24 May 2013 09:31:40 +1200

So you meant to say instability... Gotcha.

Ian Dalziel

Fri, 24 May 2013 08:09:19 +1200

Hark! a Herald?
Hermes as
…protector and patron of travelers, herdsmen, thieves, orators and wit, literature and poets, athletics and sports, invention and trade.
That does seem to cover mass media and the internet rather well…

So who is the god of cooking shows?
Gawd n Ramses ?

Which leads…

Geoff Lealand

Fri, 24 May 2013 07:53:29 +1200

Them. The kind of folk you would cross the street to avoid. Watcha inferring? ;-)

BenWilson

Fri, 24 May 2013 07:25:53 +1200

Oblique is for the chess puzzles. You were being cryptic :-)

andin

Fri, 24 May 2013 04:27:43 +1200

My mother used to tell me that could be a sign of mental stability.
Who, you or them?

Graham Dunster

Thu, 23 May 2013 19:06:51 +1200

nah, those collections of squares in newspapers. Possibly I was attempting to be too oblique...

Sacha

Thu, 23 May 2013 18:46:55 +1200

handy both ways :)

Lilith __

Thu, 23 May 2013 18:33:43 +1200

I am still disconcerted by people seemingly talking (loudly) to no one in particular in public.

Handsfree technology makes it nearly impossible to tell who's mad and who's just on the phone. ;-)

Lilith __

Thu, 23 May 2013 18:32:04 +1200

My experience of pre-mobile-phone public transport is people staring into space without making eye contact. Not much of a loss.

Cross words.

Who's cross? Just an observation. It's what most people will do if stuck at close quarters with strangers.

Geoff Lealand

Thu, 23 May 2013 18:13:24 +1200

Oops...'instability'

Graham Dunster

Thu, 23 May 2013 18:08:53 +1200

_My experience of pre-mobile-phone public transport is people staring into space without making eye contact. Not much of a loss._

Cross words.

Graham Dunster

Thu, 23 May 2013 18:06:54 +1200

It's not the writing, it's the sending...

Geoff Lealand

Thu, 23 May 2013 17:58:17 +1200

I am still disconcerted by people seemingly talking (loudly) to no one in particular in public. My mother used to tell me that could be a sign of mental stability.

I have been known to go up to loud talkers (those with ear implants) and say, 'Excuse me but I…

"chris"

Thu, 23 May 2013 17:27:17 +1200

Yikes.

saucy sext meant for wife accidentally sent to the boss...Who could have imagined that the alphabetical order plus quick fingers could wreak such havoc.

Emma Hart

Thu, 23 May 2013 17:27:17 +1200

My experience of pre-mobile-phone public transport is people staring into space without making eye contact. Not much of a loss.

Or reading, particularly on the train. Which is what those people are doing with their phones, yes? And not everyone wants to talk to strangers on public transport, particularly women.…

Lilith __

Thu, 23 May 2013 17:23:02 +1200

I was talking to a friend last night who was lamenting the days when people would talk to each other on a train ride, instead of all staring intently at their mobile screens.

My experience of pre-mobile-phone public transport is people staring into space without making eye contact. Not much…

Augusta Grayson

Thu, 23 May 2013 16:12:41 +1200

As modern technology has become increasingly mobile, the opportunity to communicate is almost constant. Given that digital and real worlds are now inextricably linked, how has it impacted on our physical ability to communicate and interact with one another? I was talking to a friend last night who was lamenting…

"chris"

Thu, 23 May 2013 15:40:05 +1200

These might interest you Sacha

1843 the invention of the fax machine
1928 the invention of the video disc
1948 the invention of the first video game.
1979 the invention of the personal digital audio player.

JacksonP

Thu, 23 May 2013 15:37:40 +1200

I remember the years when internet use was ramping up, and people had not yet learned to breathe before writing their emails. Yikes.

I still know some people like that. I'm creating a folder called 'dinosaurs' especially for them.

And I never reply.

Russell Brown

Thu, 23 May 2013 14:58:47 +1200

I think we’re still figuring out conversational norms and etiquette for the internet.

We have got way better at it, though. I remember the years when internet use was ramping up, and people had not yet learned to breathe before writing their emails. Yikes.

Lilith __

Thu, 23 May 2013 13:12:58 +1200

I think we're still figuring out conversational norms and etiquette for the internet.

It's not like we don't shoot our mouths off sometimes in face-to-face conversation. There's no preview and no delete! Although apologies, retractions or explanations can be immediate, rather than days-long.

Ross Mason

Thu, 23 May 2013 12:55:09 +1200

How many of our communications problems stem from the closing window of time to reflect?

Ummm.....all of them that are further away than face to face chit chat?

diversitynz

Thu, 23 May 2013 12:35:05 +1200

"The debate over copyright is really a battle between the innate interests of two of Hermes’ works; communications and commerce."
And then, as if that battle weren't fraught enough, he added the complex contradiction of Creative Commons...

Russell Brown

Thu, 23 May 2013 12:25:38 +1200

A place where we have little time to think about how we could/should reply.

That is a good observation. How many of our communications problems stem from the closing window of time to reflect?

Ross Mason

Thu, 23 May 2013 11:55:35 +1200

What kind of world has Hermes wrought?

A place where we have little time to think about how we could/should reply.

2013: Milliseconds to anywhere in the world

1950: 7 days for Air Mail to London. 7 days back.

1913: Hours to get a telegram to London…..maybe….

1860: 3 months+…

Ian Dalziel

Thu, 23 May 2013 10:53:29 +1200

Rort irony...
What kind of world has Hermes wrought?
Divine devicesolation?*

*a nominative neologism...

andin

Thu, 23 May 2013 10:04:02 +1200

Hermes in later developments became part of the gnostic tradition. A simplified catchphrase might be an introspective 'know thyself' Today en masse we are a miserable failure at that. Just a lot of noise, talking past each other.
What are the implications of the buzzing, constant, real-time world in which…

Sacha

Thu, 23 May 2013 09:04:13 +1200

Nice topic. Our Hermes of human form include the likes of Pellegrino Turri, inadvertent inventor of the CC in email a couple of centuries ago.

What motivated him to create the first typewriter, along with carbon paper? The desire to communicate with his blind lover. I'm confident you can find…

Public Address

Thu, 23 May 2013 09:04:13 +1200

Discussion from blog post.