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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&amp;objectid=11212254" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Paul Little tells the Len Brown Stand Down crowd to get a life</a>. And Penny Bright isn't right-wing at all, she's more like the Peoples' Front of Judea.</p><p>__It's time to shut down &ndash; or rather shut up &ndash; the ragtag bunch of malcontents who are giving their lives meaning by…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2014 15:11:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>Just to be clear, the original, now removed, story was by Lincoln Tan. But the decision on the correction was made at a senior editorial level.</q></p><p>And as a more general principle, I’d like to see a New Rule:  If you get it wrong on the front page (or in…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 25 Feb 2014 11:00:34 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Orsman is senior editorial staff.</q></p><p>Just to be clear, the original, now removed, story was by Lincoln Tan. But the decision on the correction was made at a senior editorial level.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 25 Feb 2014 10:21:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						It's the need to have first complained to the Herald before going to the Press Council that makes me hesitate. Orsman is senior editorial staff.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 25 Feb 2014 10:08:26 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>I’m tempted to complain on the Consulate’s behalf. Pursuit of a political vendetta that drags in a sovereign nation’s diplomatic mission? That’s pretty despicable, even by what pass for Orsman’s journalistic standards.</q></p><p>Then there's no need to hold back. Anything to call bollocks on this show of new yellow journalism.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 25 Feb 2014 09:57:15 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>I gather the consulate official who contacted the Herald is quite shocked by the nature of the subsequent correction. So that’s a great look.</q></p><p>I'm tempted to complain on the Consulate's behalf. Pursuit of a political vendetta that drags in a sovereign nation's diplomatic mission? That's pretty despicable, even by…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 25 Feb 2014 09:15:15 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						I gather the consulate official who contacted the Herald is quite shocked by the nature of the subsequent correction. So that's a great look.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 25 Feb 2014 09:02:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>And then buried on page five.</q></p><p>Standard operational bullshit isn’t it – get it wrong above the fold on the front page, correct at the bottom of page five in the finest of fine print unless you’ve got a lawyer (or order from a court or regulator) twisting your arm…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 24 Feb 2014 18:05:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>It was written so as to obscure the fact that the prospective protests were not about Brown at all, but about whaling. And then buried on page five.</q></p><p>If there's only one thing we should borrow from the Scandinavians, it's their <a href="http://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2012/jul/04/us-press-publishing-sweden" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">media regulation model</a>.Then again, it also helps that their…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 24 Feb 2014 17:12:55 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jim Cathcart</title>
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						<q> As for the government’s pressure, you’re confusing opening up land with affordable housing. The two are not the same. The government has no interest in the council’s intent to use intensification as a way to improve affordability, and has said as much; their perspective is that the only solution to…</q>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 24 Feb 2014 16:41:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>As far as I can tell, the correction was so half-arsed and passive-aggressive voiced it was almost meaningless.</q></p><p>It was written so as to obscure the fact that the prospective protests were not about Brown at all, but about whaling. And then buried on page five.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 24 Feb 2014 15:11:48 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<a href="http://all-embracing.episto.org/2014/02/22/the-len-brown-stand-down-protest/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Matthew Dentith's account</a> of Saturday's Stand Down Len Brown march.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 24 Feb 2014 15:07:57 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>Now the Japanese consulate is dragged in to the row, on the basis of some incorrect reporting which the Herald doesn’t seem to have corrected yet. (right?)</q></p><p>As far as I can tell, the correction was so half-arsed and passive-aggressive voiced it was almost meaningless.  I don’t think this is…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 24 Feb 2014 14:47:32 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>martinb</title>
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						<p>I think that there would be a lot of left critiquing of Len, especially around things like PPP, the waterfront, the ice-cream contracts etc etc<br />except that the idea of an American style attempt at impeachment after an election aided by less than objective journalism really has got the goat…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 24 Feb 2014 14:46:28 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>It's ironic really- I briefly attended a council meeting to support the Fukuoka Friendship garden with a few colleagues and didn't get a chance to show support for that because of the boorish behaviour of Penny Bright, Lisa Praeger and Steve Crow. </p><p>Now the Japanese consulate is dragged in to…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 24 Feb 2014 14:30:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>david kinniburgh</title>
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						Took my family along to the Tattoo, just in case no one made LenBs family welcome.. Fortunately  John Walker stepped up to the mark and made sure that everyone was warmly welcomed. Maybe this story is showing Brown as not lacking in courage and diplomacy, in contrast to his vociferous…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 24 Feb 2014 13:27:57 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>More to the point, that’s a story about absolutely nothing. It’s just embarrassing.</q></p><p>Bloody oath – “man not only fails to bite dog, said dog happily pees on a bush and takes a nap."</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 24 Feb 2014 08:45:21 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>llew40</title>
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						again, you may well be right, but when I said senior officials, I also meant officials from Auckland Council, not just central Government
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				<pubDate>Mon, 24 Feb 2014 08:23:09 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>man gets tattoo...</strong><br /><q>...a story about absolutely nothing. It’s just embarrassing.</q><br />Here, I've fixed that bottom strapline link for them:<br /><q>Click <strong>here</strong> for more coverage of our Len Brown lynch mob rabble-rousing.</q><br />I love the way when you click on their link<br /> &ndash; the page above is what comes up,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 24 Feb 2014 08:14:38 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>government is supportive of the CRL, at the least.</q></p><p>The sure have a funny way of showing it. When they insist on occupancy targets for rail before they'll commit to funding something that's going to be needed to allow additional train services before they're prepared to even start its construction,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 24 Feb 2014 08:11:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Orsman finally acknowledges who Sharon Stewart is.</q></p><p>More to the point, that's a story about absolutely nothing. It's just embarrassing.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 24 Feb 2014 07:45:52 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Orsman <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=11208602" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">finally acknowledges</a> who Sharon Stewart is.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 24 Feb 2014 07:04:50 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>Please consider the effect on Auckland's future public transport system, an utterly critical policy of Browns, if he were to lose the next election because your protests have given his right wing enemies the fuel to keep attacking him.</q></p><p>All the more so, because AKL still has FPP local body…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 23 Feb 2014 22:33:21 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Myles Thomas</title>
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						<p>Penny, you may not be right wing but you are playing into the hands of the right wing. And if you did help the 2nd most popular mayoral candidate into office, you would find him far less interested in your causes than the current Mayor. </p><p>Your idealism is admirable but…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 23 Feb 2014 21:59:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>There is a lot more common ground between Brown and Government than most people realise.</q></p><p>Yes – and anyone who thinks any Mayor has ever gone to Wellington and left with a blank cheque really needs to get their heads into this universe.  That would be the universe where anyone…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 23 Feb 2014 20:57:55 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>llew40</title>
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						You may be right, but I have heard senior officials say that government is supportive of the CRL, at the least. There is a lot more common ground between Brown and Government than most people realise.
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>Are you saying that LB has no influence on meaningful change in urban planning policy and legislature? I actually though that pressure was coming from the central government on ACC to free up land and construct affordable housing. Correct me if I’m wrong.</q></p><p>Brown absolutely “has influence on meaningful change…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 23 Feb 2014 17:33:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p><q>However, this particular scandal is of lesser significance than the corpulent cavortings of the crack cocaine-imbibing Toronto mayor Rob Ford,</q></p><p>Oh come on. The guy had a legitimate excuse for smoking crack with gang bangers, he was drunk at the time.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 23 Feb 2014 12:57:38 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Alex Coleman</title>
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						<p>"How dare he cower in fear of being asked sensible questions by proper interviewers!"</p><p>On top rating stations, even.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 23 Feb 2014 11:47:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Keir Leslie</title>
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						Well yes you are wrong in as much as the ACC doesn't exist so it can't be pressured (obviously) and less nitpickingly, the National government's solution to housing affordability --- more sprawl --- is not a solution.
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						Kerre must be utterly furious, then, that the Prime Minister refuses to front on National Radio. How dare he cower in fear of being asked sensible questions by proper interviewers!
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						And the radio station has been bought by the same company as the newspaper who published her column.
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p>Brown Derangement Syndrome Watch: </p><p><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&amp;objectid=11208056" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Kerre McIvor: Come out of hiding Mr Mayor</a>.</p><p><q>I can understand why he would want to steer clear of questioning about his sordid affair but when it comes to presenting his vision for Auckland's future he has a responsibility to answer questions.</p><p>What will the projects cost…</q></p>
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						<q>And I'm interested to know more about the power balance between central and local government. Are you saying that LB has no influence on meaningful change in urban planning policy and legislature? I actually though that pressure was coming from the central government on ACC to free up land and…</q>
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						<p>And in other news around 2,000 if not more showed up for the John Banks protest just over a decade ago where about 10% (if even that) showed up for what ever today was (which was drowned out by the National Prayer Day in Aotea Square any how).</p><p>And a…</p>
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				<title>Jim Cathcart</title>
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						<q> Those last two words speak a lot to the irrationality of your position. Brown is a mid-size fish in a very, very large pool, one where the biggest fish are parochial buffoons like Joyce, English and Brownlee. His ability to actually influence the factors that are making Auckland housing wildly…</q>
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				<title>Penny Bright</title>
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						<p>Want to describe me as 'right-wing'?</p><p>ANYBODY?</p><p>If so &ndash; I suggest you have a look at the following websites?</p><p>www,dodgyjohnhasgone.com<br />www.occupyaucklandvsaucklandcouncilappeal.org.nz<br />www.stopthesupercity.org.nz<br />www.pennybright4mayor.org.nz<br />www.pennybright4epsom.org.nz</p><p>(I use the electoral process to help make a fuss about the issues &ndash; it's proven to be quite effective?  Polled fourth with nearly 12,000…</p>
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						<q>So, yes, among the PA readership, I may be on the outer in how I think of Len Brown. Nevertheless, even though my views are more Glenfield than Ponsonby, I am still rather surprised that anyone is surprised that LB is disliked. It seems more a case that if you…</q>
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						<p><q>And how exactly does Len Brown address this? He doesn’t and he can’t.</q></p><p>Those last two words speak a lot to the irrationality of your position. Brown is a mid-size fish in a very, very large pool, one where the biggest fish are parochial buffoons like Joyce, English and Brownlee.…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>Cameron Brewer is claiming vindication, but this doesn’t back up his claim that the whole “bevy of heavies” was for the mayor. It’s two of seven security guards added without reference to the mayor’s office, at a total cost of about $200.</q></p><p>OK, this might be borderline trolling but someone…</p>
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						<p><q>But not in the way you probably think. Our planning rules make basic urban intensification all but impossible </q></p><p>I'm not sure what you think about what I think. However, your point about intensification is directly related to urban planning in NZ, which shares direct similarities with Australia. The financial distortions…</p>
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						<q>So, yes, among the PA readership, I may be on the outer in how I think of Len Brown. Nevertheless, even though my views are more Glenfield than Ponsonby, I am still rather surprised that anyone is surprised that LB is disliked. It seems more a case that if you…</q>
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						<p><q>    <br /><em>He was booed at the Auckland Nines and was asked not to attend a community military tattoo this weekend.</em></p><p>No fact checking, just continuing to present the disgruntled Sharon Stewarts views as the truth.</q></p><p>Which bit is inaccurate? That he was booed at the Nines? Or that Sharon Stewart asked…</p>
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						<p><q>So, yes, among the PA readership, I may be on the outer in how I think of Len Brown. Nevertheless, even though my views are more Glenfield than Ponsonby, I am still rather surprised that anyone is surprised that LB is disliked.</q></p><p>It would be closer to say he's viciously…</p>
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						<p><q>and some of the most restrictive urban planning regimes in the world</q></p><p>But not in the way you probably think. Our planning rules make basic urban intensification all but impossible. You wouldn't be allowed to make non-garaged streets like most of Ponsonby's these days, let alone terraced housing or low-rise…</p>
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						My what a pack of pallid lemon-sucking numpties those marchers looked like on the telly.
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				<title>Jim Cathcart</title>
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						So, yes, among the PA readership, I may be on the outer in how I think of Len Brown. Nevertheless, even though my views are more Glenfield than Ponsonby, I am still rather surprised that anyone is surprised that LB is disliked. It seems more a case that if  you…
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						<p><q>I’m unhappy with aspects of the Brown mayoralty, unlike many other leftist political commentators</q></p><p>There seem quite a few of those who oppose his handling of the Ports of Auckland dispute. He's really quite centrist.</p>
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						Even if he has to travel everywhere accompanied by a platoon of Ghurkas and a backup squad of heavily armed ninja warriors, he's still entitled to occupy the post he was elected to. John Key probably has a bigger security detail than Helen Clark ever needed &ndash; does that mean…
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Radio NZ's Kim Baker Wilson has obtained (presumably via an OIA request) email exchange showing that <a href="http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/regional/236973/len-brown&#039;s-security-costs-questioned" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">two security guards were added at the last moment because Auckland Transport staff were concerned about his security at the Panmure station opening</a>.</p><p>Cameron Brewer is claiming vindication, but this doesn't back up his…</p>
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						<p><q>However, wasn’t Brown the promoter of family values and Christian ideals? The charge of hypocrisy is best suited to him. </q></p><p>What are you suggesting he should have done, held a press conference to explain why he could no longer campaign as a family man? The hypocrisy charge against Len may…</p>
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						This whole scandal is primarily one of significance and magnitude. Mr Brown’s extramarital affair may have been a lamentable betrayal of his marriage vows, but neither infidelity or adultery are regarded as criminal acts within New Zealand, although they may serve as grounds for divorce…unlike Augustan era Rome, many African…
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						<p>And more nonsense from the Herald....<br /><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&amp;objectid=11207454" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&amp;objectid=11207454</a><br />Fran O'sullivan, seeking to link Brown with Kim Dotcom,   writes:<br /><q> Brown is also endowed with fighting spirit. He has a thick hide when it comes to public opprobrium. He was booed at the Auckland Nines and was asked not to attend a community military…</q></p>
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						<p>Okay, I'll get on with my day after this  ...</p><p>I'm 100% sure the Japanese consulate not only never received any threats related to a possible appearance by Len Brown at Japan Day, but that the consulate's contact with police did not relate in any way to prospective anti-Brown protests.…</p>
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						<p>The Japanese consulate story has been removed from the Herald website and at the bottom of the briefs on on page 5 of the Weekend Herald, there's a correction.</p><p>In's interesting that they're still insisting the consulate contacted the police on being advised of a likely protest, because the mayor's…</p>
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						<p><q>And he is having to deal with a central government which holds the purse strings and also has an irrational hostility towards necessary, major public transport initiatives.</q><br />True, they don’t make life any easier in Chchch either.<br />Thankfully it’s Election Year.</p>
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						<q>Auckland has some of the most unaffordable residential property in the world; weak and expensive public transport (even thought it has improved to some degree); and gridlock. Shouldn't these be the core issues that Brown and the council need to work on? Can anyone sincerely say the situation is getting…</q>
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						<q>And in terms of his achievements, Auckland has some of the most unaffordable residential property in the world; weak and expensive public transport (even thought it has improved to some degree); and gridlock. Shouldn’t these be the core issues that Brown and the council need to work on? Can anyone…</q>
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						<p><q>However, wasn’t Brown the promoter of family values and Christian ideals? </q></p><p>No, not particularly, although he probably played up the family angle more for some audiences than others. It really  hasn't been a significant element of either campaign.</p>
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						<p><q>Auckland has some of the most unaffordable residential property in the world</q></p><p>But you cannot be seriously suggesting that is the fault of the Mayor?</p><p><q>weak and expensive public transport</q></p><p>And he is having to deal with a central government which holds the purse strings and also has an irrational…</p>
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						The whole idea that there is "moral outrage" from Joe Average about LB's behavior is a crock. People don't really care. However, wasn't Brown the promoter of family values and Christian ideals? The charge of hypocrisy is best suited to him. I think that's why people find the guy to…
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						<p><q>things in the Super City could have been a lot worse</q></p><p>John Banks should be sufficient to settle that</p>
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						<p><q>grasp the spoils</q></p><p>ew</p>
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						<p><q>Is Len Brown really worth the effort?</q></p><p>Yes – because I’m the kind of crank who thinks the media and self-appointed morals cops don’t get to overturn free, fair and credible elections. That doesn't mean anyone is beyond scrutiny and criticism, but it's rather naive to pretend we haven't crossed…</p>
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						<p><q> Anyway, why is the guy so revered?</q></p><p>Not so much that he's revered, but that the campaign against him has been so sordid and wasteful of resources that the enemy of my enemy is my friend.</p>
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						<p><q>Anyway, why is the guy so revered? Because he says the right things? What has he actually achieved?</q></p><p>For all his faults, quite a lot. Simon Wilson’s Metro feature last year is a useful overview.</p><p>Basically, Brown inherited a structure and a set of appointed CCO boards that was not…</p>
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						<p><q>Is Len Brown really worth the effort?</q></p><p>Why don't you ask that question of yourself? Because if any of Len Brown's dodgy actions can be considered corrupt, he's only just barely at the kindergarten level of political corruption. And besides, he's already been called out on his behaviour. Why the…</p>
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						<p><q> Is Len Brown really worth the effort? FFS, if you put yourself in a public position and screw up, would you expect anything different? </q><br />Without a doubt Len Brown has been foolish, for which he has been exposed to well orchestrated ridicule, and censured as well. Without a doubt he…</p>
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						<p><q> I’ll be turning up with a placard supporting LB :-) </q></p><p>Is Len Brown really worth the effort? FFS, if you put yourself in a public position and screw up, would you expect anything different? If LB were the sales rep for DB and receiving upgrades and was having it off…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>And apparently the consulate has been trying to communicate this to the Herald since yesterday afternoon.</q></p><p>Oh, well – perhaps Shayne Currie might decide to put his big boy editor pants on if he gets a phone call from the Japanese Ambassador asking that they be left right out of…</p>
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						<p><q> <br />Russell Brown:<br />Ironically, Stewart has been busy today insisting to the TVNZ reporter that “this isn’t political at all.” Except, of course, that Dick Quax is answering her emails for her. </q></p><p>At least Dick Quax replied, and promptly. I've had no response whatever from Ms Stewart. She's paid $44K pa…</p>
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						<q>Which is particularly sad when you consider that Denise Krum, from Tamaki, is newly-elected in place of the very long-serving Richard Northey. She won, as best I could see (as a resident of the ward), on the back of the most expenditure on billboards and concerted use of her school…</q>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>He and the other four are basically deadweight on council.</q></p><p>Which is particularly sad when you consider that Denise Krum, from Tamaki, is newly-elected in place of the very long-serving Richard Northey. She won, as best I could see (as a resident of the ward), on the back of the…</p>
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						They're marginal in the same way the Act party is &ndash; tiny support base, magnified by access to resources.
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				<title>WH</title>
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						<p><q>I trust that this addresses your concerns, Graeme.</q></p><p>I'm not sure you can describe a campaign that is supported by the Herald, the NBR and <a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/tag/len_brown" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Kiwiblog</a> as "very marginal".</p><p>At the risk of sounding naive, public debate shouldn't generally be led by character assassination.  Noone looks back at Tony Blair's…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>A bit sad really Quax has not only marginalised himself but also the needs of those he purports to represent.</q></p><p>Yes. He's not representing his constituents in any useful sense. He and the other four are basically deadweight on council.</p>
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						A bit sad really Quax has not only marginalised himself but also the needs of those he purports to represent.
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						<p><q>=== AND got this straight back from Dick Quax</q></p><p>I notice he doesn't actually deny having personal animosity. I think I would have been inclined to tell him "give it up Dick, you lost. Time to move on."</p>
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						<p><q>From the Mayor’s office Twitter account this morning, they’ll be asking for a retraction on the Japanese consulate threats story. Never happened according to the consulate…</q></p><p>And apparently the consulate has been trying to communicate this to the Herald since yesterday afternoon.</p><p>This is just weird.</p>
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						<p><q>Obviously it wouldn't be smart on LB's part to actually complain</q></p><p>From the Mayor's office Twitter account this morning, they'll be asking for a retraction on the Japanese consulate threats story.  Never happened according to the consulate...</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>Bully beef</strong><br /><q>So at what point does the biased reporting by The New Zealand Herald constitute harassment?</q><br />Best get used to it APN has just bought <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/business/9742158/Media-group-takes-over-radio-network" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Radio Network in NZ</a> ie: Newstalk ZB and Radio Hauraki, and Australian Radio Network (ARN).</p>
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						or us readers can complain to the regulator on the grounds of sustained bias and truthiness.
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p>So at what point does the biased reporting by The New Zealand Herald constitute harassment?</p><p>Obviously it wouldn't be smart on LB's part to actually complain but surely there is a point where The Herald steps outside the boundaries of what is legal?</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>medalling in politics...</strong><br /><q>AND got this straight back from Dick Quax</q><br />I had heard that <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Quax" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Theodorus Jacobus Leonardus "Dick" Quax</a> was quick out of the blocks...<br />...being a competitive runner (and ACT alumni) for so long, it's no wonder he is happy to put the spikes in when astroturfing.</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Okay, this has to stop now. Stop enabling and encouraging crazy people.</p><p><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=11206710" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Anti-Brown hate mail raises fears</a></p><p><q>The Japanese consulate in Auckland has notified the police after receiving threats from anti-Len Brown protesters about his planned attendance at a festival this weekend.</p><p>The mayor has been the subject of protests over…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 21 Feb 2014 07:37:57 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>this isn't political at all</q></p><p>no, it's personal :) #dim</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Sent this off to Sharon Stewart</q></p><p>Ironically, Stewart has been busy today insisting to the TVNZ reporter that "this isn't political at all."</p><p>Except, of course, that Dick Quax is answering her emails for her.</p>
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				<title>david kinniburgh</title>
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						I'm a resident &ndash; see my posts. Views ignored by my elected representatives, who seem more concerned with some kind of revenge.
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						<p>Howick...<br />Home of the small minded, self righteous, judgmental, intolerant, vindictive,AND me<br />Sent this off to Sharon Stewart<br />======<br /><q>Sharon Stewart<br />I note that in todays Herald you claim to be speaking on behalf of<br />"many people in Howick " and suggesting that Len Brown stay away<br />from our Military…</q></p>
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						<p><q>Auckland resident Rick Splinter has had his request for speaking rights at the Governing Body meeting of 27 February 2014 declined. </q></p><p>Maybe he'll form a group...</p>
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				<title>Ben Ross</title>
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						<p>Was just going to link it in here but you beat me to it Russell.</p><p>This is getting even beyond fringe material now. Heck sake Standing Orders are that and Mr Splinter failed to meet them thus denied.</p><p>Public input was given in the December Governing Body where the Mayor…</p>
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						<p>While I was never a physical subscriber (what am I, 45?! ;) ) the Len Brown story is the direct point where I deleted all Herald bookmarks/apps and vowed to never follow a link to the Herald or pick up a copy in the cafe. <br />MIDDLE CLASS PROTEST HIZZAH! But…</p>
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						It promises to be as successful as ACT.
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Fucksake. These people are really nutty. <a href="http://www.voxy.co.nz/politics/democracy-lacking-auckland-council-berry/5/182154" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Stephen Berry's latest press release</a>:</p><p><q>Auckland resident Rick Splinter has had his request for speaking rights at the Governing Body meeting of 27 February 2014 declined. The request has been declined by Deputy Mayor, and Len Brown toady, Penny Hulse.</p><p>Affordable Auckland Leader Stephen…</q></p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						So I did the One News interview and was called back an hour later to be told that the story won't be run after all. Which probably reflects its real importance.
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						uptight citizens
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						<p><q>Upright citizens, though, Ian</q></p><p>That would depend on the number of legs...</p>
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				<title>Marcus Turner</title>
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						Upright citizens, though, Ian.
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						<p><q>I had a look to say what Whaleoil readers ... thought about this.</q></p><p>Well, I'm not sure one could describe quite what appears as the majority of the comments on WO as the result of "thought", but I'll let it slide.<br />Your sacrifice is noted and appreciated.</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Dear god. the TVNZ news headline is <a href="http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/residents-ask-len-brown-stay-away-military-tattoo-5844510" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Residents ask Len Brown to stay away from Military Tattoo</a></p><p>Naturally, the only resident they seem to have spoken to is Councillor Sharon Stewart.</p><p>This is ridiculous.</p><p>Happily, they're coming around soon to interview me, so I actually get to say something.</p>
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						<p>So I had a look to say what Whaleoil readers and the Keeping Stock blog thought about this.</p><p>I think we can fairly use the term Len Derangement Syndrome.</p>
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				<title>Carol Stewart</title>
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						<p><q>An entire post criticising the opponents of a politician without basically once addressing their arguments? Isn’t this textbook ad hominem?</q></p><p>Well, no, if the substance of their arguments is to hold fringe beliefs about 9/11, vaccination, climate change, fluoridation and so on. It's a total waste of time engaging with…</p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=11206422" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Can the NZ media avoid bias?</a> is the short-version headline. So irony.
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>It’s usually a bad sign when the story angle is in the passive voice.</q></p><p>Ignoring that you gave Steve Curtis the credit for my quote, I have concluded that it's a bad sign when any story on Auckland's governance/transport/planning/etc has Orsman's byline.</p>
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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						<p><q>The ongoing controversy over how the Basin Reserve Flyover should be built is just the latest reflection of the Dom’s tacit partisanism.</q></p><p>There is nothing tacit about it. Getting a story in the Dom that is critical of NZTA/the government is a miracle. When the Expressway was announced in Kapiti,…</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>re: ad hominoid attacks</q><br />Ya never know, they could evolve into arguments with legs...</p>
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				<title>bob daktari</title>
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						<p>I'm just excited to learn of the existence of the Howick Military Tattoo</p><p>Sharon Stewart is no doubt a highly sought after PR ninja &ndash; well played</p>
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				<title>Myles Thomas</title>
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						<p>Damn straight.</p><p>Going by above comments, NZ's two biggest newspapers are fairly strongly right-leaning. So how does that square with the received wisdom that most journalists are lefties?</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>And don’t forget that when Brown opened the Panmure transport interchange:</p><p><em>Questions were also raised about the level of security shadowing the mayor</em> </q></p><p>It's usually a bad sign when the story angle is in the passive voice.</p>
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				<title>Steve Curtis</title>
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						<p>Was  this the same NZ Herald  which put a graphic on its  front page  on Waitangi Day proclaiming it was "protest free".</p><p>One day you are rabble rousers who dont deserve the time of day from from a news paper that isnt  about the news.</p><p>Next  week there is the…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>But newspapers sometimes take editorial stances or embark on campaigns as a matter of branding and that’s what the Herald did here. Unfortunately, it hasn’t worked out as a populist pitch and they’ve basically cornered themselves. Hence, awkward contrivances like today’s lead story.</q></p><p>That’s a good call, Russell, but I…</p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p>And don't forget that when Brown opened the Panmure transport interchange:<br /><q><br /><em>Questions were also raised about the level of security shadowing the mayor</em> <br /></q></p><p>Questions were indeed raised, by one Bernard Orsman, and promptly discredited by Auckland Transport. But we can't forget that the questions were raised, and never mind the…</p>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>Unfortunately, it hasn’t worked out as a populist pitch and they’ve basically cornered themselves. Hence, awkward contrivances like today’s lead story.</q></p><p>The Daily Mail, much?</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>I’ve been able to confirm with someone with direct knowledge of the event that the security was simply a standard hire for such an event. </q></p><p>Yup – David (who has been working in the rail industry for fifty years, and is now a planning officer with <a href="http://www.transdev.co.nz/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Transdev Auckland</a> so what…</p>
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				<title>Hebe</title>
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						<p><q>Understandably, I think, I'm becoming weary of these apparent non-stories.</q></p><p>Beat-ups.</p><p>Good gawd to the Herald's lead. To the rest of New Zealand it's a WTF issue. </p><p>A right-leaning  editorial team wouldn't be distracting from the real issues in an election year when there was an inconvenient doco on prime-time…</p>
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				<title>Simon Wilson</title>
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						<p>OK, so for my non ad-hominem response, try <br /><a href="http://metromag.co.nz/editors-blog/colin-bob-len-friends" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this</a>.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Feb 2014 11:37:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p><q>economic slump</q></p><p>Has Wellington had any more of a slump that the rest of the country? Sure, the governments been doing its level best to destroy quality public service, and that's had a bit of an impact, but we have a lot of growth industries as well (most of them…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<q>And, of course, if Brown isn’t at the Howick Military Tattoo, I’m sure Orsman would just cut and paste The Herald’s last “AWOL Mayor proves he’s out of touch with the community, and must go” screed after getting a quote from Stewart weeping crocodile tears about the Mayor’s snub to…</q>
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				<title>TracyMac</title>
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						<p>As far as I can tell, the so-called "ad hominem" remarks are describing the publicly-stated political views of these people. (Ok, with a side gloss on their crackpottery.) Frankly, if someone is participating in a political arena, their own views are fair game.</p><p>If someone said "Penny Bright is stupid…</p>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						What do you expect? the Herald is the mouthpiece of an Auckland, white, good old boy plutocracy that is so bereft of moral compass and balance that one of it’s members – prime minister John Key – thinks nothing of regularly phoning another – sociopath Cameron Slater – for cosy…
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>It’s a somewhat similar story in Wellington with the Dom and Mayor Celia Wade-Brown. </q></p><p>It's a little different here. The Herald has done some great city coverage. Although I'm obviously not alone in thinking that Bernard Orsman's reporting seems unduly influenced by his own beliefs and that his coverage of…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						And, of course, if Brown isn't at the Howick Military Tattoo, I'm sure Orsman would just cut and paste The Herald's last "AWOL Mayor proves he's out of touch with the community, and must go" screed after getting a quote from Stewart weeping crocodile tears about the Mayor's snub to…
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				<title>Marcus Turner</title>
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						<p>Graeme: I have to say that went through my mind, too.</p><p>ETA. Just read Russell’s reply. Fair enough, but it still might look a bit ad hominoid to newcomers.</p>
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						It’s a somewhat similar story in Wellington with the Dom and Mayor Celia Wade-Brown. The Dom seems to imply that Mayor Celia – a bicycle commuter – is some kind of anti-car Luddite who’s responsible for the city’s economic slump, conveniently forgetting about the public sector austerity of the last…
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>An entire post criticising the opponents of a politician without basically once addressing their arguments? Isn’t this textbook ad hominem?</q></p><p>Not quite, Graeme.  Their arguments, such as they are, really have been kicked around here in exhaustive, and exhausting, detail.  Do we all really have to hit the reset button…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>An entire post criticising the opponents of a politician without basically once addressing their arguments? Isn’t this textbook ad hominem?</q></p><p>No, it isn’t. We’ve been through the actual arguments at considerable length on this site.</p><p>The point here is that the protest lobby is very small and very marginal and…</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>once addressing their arguments</q></p><p>Let me help. Like about a third of kiwis, Brown had an extra marital affair, this involved him telling some lies to some people. Unlike his opponents and The Herald I do not believe this constitutes a reason depose a democratically elected mayor. Nor do I…</p>
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				<title>Keir Leslie</title>
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						<p>To quote from one of the all time <a href="http://dsquareddigest.wordpress.com/2004/05/27/108573518762776451/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">classics</a>:</p><p><q>There is much made by people who long for the days of their fourth form debating society about the fallacy of "argumentum ad hominem". There is, as I have mentioned in the past, no fancy Latin term for the fallacy of…</q></p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p>Seriously New Zealand Herald, WTF?</p><p>Between this obsession with trying to be a political party themselves and the constant cheerleading of the real estate market I can't figure out what the hell The Herald thinks is the role of a newspaper in society.</p><p>It must be a strange place to…</p>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<p><q>Well said Russell. </q></p><p>An entire post criticising the opponents of a politician without basically once addressing their arguments? Isn’t this textbook <em>ad hominem</em>?</p>
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				<title>Simon Wilson</title>
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						Well said Russell. More on Brown in my editorial, in Metro on sale today &ndash; and, for good measure, David Slack's very good Obituary for the man. Yes, we do like to stay ahead of the game.
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				<title>Ben Ross</title>
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						<p>It was the most important story for the print edition of the Herald as it panders to the ultra conservative group that most likely prop up the ailing print edition (who's readership is still declining)</p><p>As for the marginalised five they are slowly signing their own warrants in the next…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>Does it move on, or continue to contrive petty stories like today’s lead?</q></p><p>As I've said to you on Twitter, The Herald (and Bernard Orsman in particular) are little more than obsessive trolls where Brown is concerned.  I'm really sorry they didn't manage to drive an elected Mayor out of…</p>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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