Public Address | Cafe | Hard News: The last – and best – parts of the cannabis bill have arrived https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/ en-us Copyright (c) 2026 Public Address Alfie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383778#post383778 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383778#post383778 This 1,000 person study of 40 year olds conducted by Otago Uni suggests at best a close result for the reeferendum and probably much worse.

Joe Boden is quoted on the Stuff story as saying "most were interviewed before the referendum was announced." I'd expect that must make a difference…

]]> Fri, 22 May 2020 10:07:12 +1200 Alfie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383769#post383769 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383769#post383769 Some medicinal users must feel like they're in no man's land at the moment. Here's a couple of cases from the top of the South Island — 20 and 32 plants, no sign of commercial activity.

I wonder how much "community harm" these prosections have actually saved. Judges are becoming…

]]> Wed, 20 May 2020 08:29:38 +1200 Alfie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383705#post383705 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383705#post383705 It wasn’t even 4:20.

It's always 4:2... er, forget that. And yeah... NZ Twitter was sniggering a lot.

]]> Mon, 11 May 2020 22:37:45 +1200 Simon Armstrong https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383703#post383703 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383703#post383703 Mon, 11 May 2020 16:28:23 +1200 Alfie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383699#post383699 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383699#post383699 Hash is maybe port, and modern concentrates are the spirits. They’re breathtakingly strong.

Does that make bucket bongs the equivalent of the yard glass?

I'd like to see a range of strengths and varieties available at retail, the same way there is with alcohol. My main point was that a…

]]> Mon, 11 May 2020 12:35:28 +1200 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383698#post383698 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383698#post383698 That said I think you could argue the high strength stuff is more like spirits or wine and the “pure” is extracts like hashish.

Hash is maybe port, and modern concentrates are the spirits. They're breathtakingly strong.

I don’t knows really because none of can kill you as easily as…

]]> Mon, 11 May 2020 11:41:27 +1200 BenWilson https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383697#post383697 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383697#post383697 Possibly, in the way that four big macs equate to one decent restaurant meal

I think it's more like in the way that a nip of spirits equates to a beer when you're getting breath tested. Many prefer beer. Many like spirits but only if diluted in a mixer. And…

]]> Mon, 11 May 2020 08:26:14 +1200 Geoff Lealand https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383691#post383691 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383691#post383691 Sat, 09 May 2020 13:25:28 +1200 Ross Bell https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383690#post383690 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383690#post383690 Illegal AF. Even under the medical cannabis law that passed last year, any protection from prosecution doesn't apply to cultivation nor to any 'green fairy.' You would have take your chances with the police using discretion (which we have seen even in some cases).

But under the proposed Bill you…

]]> Sat, 09 May 2020 06:47:06 +1200 Geoff Lealand https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383684#post383684 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383684#post383684 Just a quick question (this seems an appropriate place to post it):

A lovely bloke and former work colleague emailed me yesterday, with rather terrible news about the diagnosis of an intensifying medical condition. He has been diagnosed with onset of motor neurone disease.
In his message, he asked if…

]]> Fri, 08 May 2020 13:42:21 +1200 Ross Bell https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383683#post383683 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383683#post383683 Fri, 08 May 2020 07:03:15 +1200 Rob Stowell https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383681#post383681 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383681#post383681 Thu, 07 May 2020 17:17:22 +1200 Alfie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383678#post383678 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383678#post383678 Here’s the 2010 ESR research...

Thanks for that. A couple of things stand out for me.

The inexperience of the growers was evidenced by different problems encountered in each of the three cycles, each of which would be expected to negatively impact the yield and THC data obtained.

As you'd…

]]> Wed, 06 May 2020 18:27:50 +1200 Alfie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383677#post383677 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383677#post383677 You’ll get the same effect from two doses of half strength as one dose of full strength.

Possibly, in the way that four big macs equate to one decent restaurant meal, but I’m picturing The Freak Brothers without the humour.

Numerous trips to Amsterdam with Lloyd Cole’s "Lost Weekend" as…

]]> Wed, 06 May 2020 17:49:54 +1200 Alfie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383674#post383674 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383674#post383674 I’d genuinely love to know how you have determined the strength of the cannabis you consume. How do you know it’s 20 or 30%? And do you know the CBD ratios too? I’m concerned that there are too many strains that are full on THC with little to no CBD… ]]> Wed, 06 May 2020 16:31:56 +1200 BenWilson https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383673#post383673 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383673#post383673 It feels a bit churlish to criticise, but the 15% THC limit feels low as many popular strains currently come in around the 20% mark. That creates an obvious and sizeable niche for the black market.

I don't think this is much of a problem really. There is a black…

]]> Wed, 06 May 2020 15:50:25 +1200 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383672#post383672 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383672#post383672 I’m concerned that there are too many strains that are full on THC with little to no CBD to moderate it.

Thanks Ross. I think the above is one of the stronger arguments for legalisation. Per my Pearl Schomburg story, it seems that the better green fairy growers are achieving…

]]> Wed, 06 May 2020 12:48:27 +1200 Ross Bell https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383671#post383671 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383671#post383671 Wed, 06 May 2020 12:31:52 +1200 Ross Bell https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383670#post383670 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383670#post383670 Hi all. For clarification (and I've just copied this from a Facebook post in response to someone who challenged the reported comments):

"Yes, it's true. The data on levels of potency of cannabis typically available on the black market is old. This report is 10 years old: http://i.stuff.co.nz/.../Cannabis-now-four-times-stronger

That shows…

]]> Wed, 06 May 2020 12:27:26 +1200 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383669#post383669 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383669#post383669 Here’s the 2010 ESR research, which involved growing plants hydroponically and got a remarkably wide variety of results.

And the Herald report on same:

Police and ESR used sophisticated hydroponic equipment to complete three cannabis growing cycles, nursing six plants at a time, 18 in total, to maturity. The study revealed…

]]> Wed, 06 May 2020 12:13:07 +1200 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383668#post383668 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383668#post383668 I was surprised to read this from Ross Bell.

Me too. I know that the national bragging about growing world-beating weed hasn't been true for quite a while, if it ever was, but that does seem very low.

]]> Wed, 06 May 2020 12:00:05 +1200 Alfie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383662#post383662 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383662#post383662 After saying earlier I thought "the 15% THC limit feels low as many popular strains currently come in around the 20% mark", I was surprised to read this from Ross Bell.

Under the proposed regime, authorities could restrict dried cannabis to contain no more than 15 percent THC – the…

]]> Tue, 05 May 2020 15:13:42 +1200 Alfie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383658#post383658 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383658#post383658 Magic Butter Maker would be able to produce a range of healthy and delicious edibles at… ]]> Tue, 05 May 2020 09:48:56 +1200 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383656#post383656 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383656#post383656 What’s the argument for no beverages? I recall a Kim Hill interview discussing the teas produced in California by a New Zealand expat – teas for relaxation and sleep and getting high or not getting high – all sounded wonderfully civilised. Why not here?

It's more of a general wariness…

]]> Tue, 05 May 2020 09:12:53 +1200 Helga https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383645#post383645 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383645#post383645 Mon, 04 May 2020 17:56:42 +1200 Shep Cheyenne https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383642#post383642 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383642#post383642 Any word on the drug impairment testing set for driving and working?

As NZ seeks to avoid a depression through state infrastructure works, movement on the zero tolerance test currently in place would be meaningful.

]]> Mon, 04 May 2020 14:10:50 +1200 John McKinnon https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383641#post383641 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383641#post383641 Mon, 04 May 2020 12:06:10 +1200 Dean Wallis https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383638#post383638 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383638#post383638 Mon, 04 May 2020 11:25:10 +1200 Worik Stanton https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383627#post383627 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383627#post383627 Sat, 02 May 2020 12:06:56 +1200 Trevor Nicholls https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383626#post383626 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383626#post383626 Fri, 01 May 2020 19:18:09 +1200 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383625#post383625 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383625#post383625 But no looking, smelling or becoming in any way informed about the product you’re buying? Seriously? If diseminating helpful information at retail is going to be this crippled, we may as well buy via mail order.

I've updated the post. Clause 158 g (iii) would seem to allow a store…

]]> Fri, 01 May 2020 18:24:22 +1200 Alfie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383624#post383624 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383624#post383624 Pass the joint and praise the Lord! Big Canna has been excluded. Canadian pot money has been distorting world markets for a while, even if some of the bigger players like Canopy Growth seem to be heading out the back door at the moment.

The social equity provisions are excellent,…

]]> Fri, 01 May 2020 16:41:23 +1200 Public Address https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383623#post383623 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-last-and-best-parts-of-the/?p=383623#post383623 Discussion from blog post.

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