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				<title>John Fouhy</title>
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						<blockquote><p>This article suggests no lessons had been learned a year later.</p></blockquote><p>Here's Snopes: <a href="http://www.snopes.com/risque/tattled/swire.asp" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.snopes.com/risque/tattled/swire.asp</a></p><p>Two more, also apparently true: <br /><a href="http://www.snopes.com/risque/tattled/chung.asp" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.snopes.com/risque/tattled/chung.asp</a><br /><a href="http://www.snopes.com/risque/tattled/luxton.asp" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.snopes.com/risque/tattled/luxton.asp</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 10:44:26 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p>Ah yes. <a href="http://www.silicon.com/management/cio-insights/2001/07/19/claire-swire-everyone-remembers-but-few-have-changed-their-ways-11025866/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">This article</a> suggests no lessons had been learned a year later. Scary part is it could have even been a hoax. But there is no doubt that the two people mentioned were real people who got into real trouble. </p><p>This would never have happened with snail mail.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 01:31:11 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jeremy Andrew</title>
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						<blockquote>Yes, I distinctly remember a chain email in the late 90s which consisted of some girl saying that she liked the taste of her boyfriend's jizz. Her real name was in this email, and it had reached millions of people within one day. If her workplace didn't all ending up…</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 21:51:14 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 21:40:29 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Andre Alessi</title>
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						<p>Actually, it was Primo Levi, which is why I was so hopelessly confused.  </p><p>The short story is called "For A Good Purpose" and according to <a href="http://kuipercliff.wordpress.com/2007/02/26/telephone-network-attains-sentience/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this blog post</a> it's available in English versions of <em>Six Days and Other Tales</em>.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 21:02:09 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Andre Alessi</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I seem to have missed that one. Any chance that you recall the title, or what collection it's from?</p></blockquote><p>No, I can't, and it's been bugging me all day that I can't.  I read it in an European Studies paper at Vic Uni in 1995, along with short stories by…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 20:40:55 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Something might get viewed a million times in 24 hours if it's interesting enough for people to email and facebook it around. That's a hell of a lot of non-privacy.</p></blockquote><p>Yes, I distinctly remember a chain email in the late 90s which consisted of some girl saying that she liked…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 19:41:51 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Shades of that Italo Calvino short story about the telephone network comming alive and connecting people based on what they say in private conversations.</p></blockquote><p>I seem to have missed that one. Any chance that you recall the title, or what collection it's from?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 19:31:05 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But new technology does make things possible/easy that previously were not.</p></blockquote><p>I was talking to someone about my age recently about how glad we were that Facebook, Twitter and ubiquitous digital cameras weren't around when we were at varsity, because it would have been completely disastrous.</p><p>Looking at the same…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 19:03:17 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Robbie Siataga</title>
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						<p>I'm not used to being myself on line, much preferring pseudonymity, but enough about me :)</p><p>What about this guy ? Almost 5.5 million hits and counting...like WTF ?</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iy2TOdvr8QY" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iy2TOdvr8QY</a></p><p>...apparently he's polarised the dubstep world with his halfstep wobbles over existing tunes and calling them remixes. They're a bit…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 17:57:59 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Andre Alessi</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Something might get viewed a million times in 24 hours if it's interesting enough for people to email and facebook it around. That's a hell of a lot of non-privacy.</p></blockquote><p>You only need to look at what happened with <a href="http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1292949" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Kate's party</a> over the weekend to see the differences in scale…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 16:41:18 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Andre Alessi</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Gizmondo Facebook's Privacy Changes Get Scary</p></blockquote><p>I liked the first comment:</p><blockquote><p>they forgot 2021: Farmville becomes self aware and enslaves the human race</p></blockquote><p>Shades of that Italo Calvino short story about the telephone network comming alive and connecting people based on what they say in private conversations.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 16:39:43 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It is best if we keep the law functioning the way it always did, sure. But new technology does make things possible/easy that previously were not.</p></blockquote><p>Not just that, but the ability of things to go viral in cyberspace makes 50 years ago look like nothing.</p><p>Something might get viewed…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 16:36:01 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Yes, quite. And Tom seems dedicated enough to demand that no photos be taken when he's on the town. But should he have to?</p></blockquote><p>I'm curious what his response is if anyone just says "Get stuffed. It's my camera." Does he leave? Or make a scene? Or act as if…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 16:23:12 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Lyndon Hood</title>
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						<p>Gizmondo <a href="http://gizmodo.com/5523178/facebooks-privacy-changes-get-scary?skyline=true&amp;s=i" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Facebook's Privacy Changes Get Scary</a></p><p>Was actually there for the lastest in the <a href="http://gizmodo.com/5524843/police-seize-jason-chens-computers" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">iPhone saga</a>.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 16:10:42 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>recordari</title>
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						It can be tricky.  I like taking photos of bands and concerts.  So far I have only 'published' them amongst friends, but given the way this works, anyone of them could end up on a website without my knowledge or control.  Would that bother me?  Not too much, if it's…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 16:09:10 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>So the law makers do need to keep abreast of the practicalities of the present day, and the implications of technology during a time of massive technological change.</p></blockquote><p>Yes, quite. And Tom seems dedicated enough to demand that no photos be taken when he's on the town. But should he…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 16:05:22 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>John Fouhy</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Would 'BetterPrivacy' do anything?</p></blockquote><p>I'm not sure.. I switched to Chrome a little while ago, to combat instability problems in Firefox (caused by Adobe Flash, I believe).</p><p>So running a google browser makes me part of the "privacy? who cares?" set, I guess..</p><blockquote><p>"Currently, we estimate that your browser has…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 16:02:52 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>There is nothing new here. To my mind these are social issues that should be of no interest to law makers, not technology or legal ones.</p></blockquote><p>It is best if we keep the law functioning the way it always did, sure. But new technology does make things possible/easy that previously…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 15:54:48 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>i.e. NZ is (possibly) the leading government for requesting data removal from Google, on a per capita basis.</p></blockquote><p>Ah, thanks. I was writing fast this morning and didn't see the tables.</p><p>My guess would be that all or nearly all of those would relate to court suppression orders.</p><p>Edit: And,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 15:43:02 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>recordari</title>
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						<blockquote><p>If you use Firefox, you can try SafeHistory to guard against it.</p></blockquote><p>Could not be installed as not compatible with FF 3.6.4.  Does that mean I'm more up to date than Stanford University?  Well since the last update was in 2007, then yes, I think it does... ;-)</p><p>Would <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6623" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">'BetterPrivacy'</a>…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 15:33:21 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Dylan Mordaunt</title>
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						<p>It's interesting to consider the Google Government Requests in a 'removal requests per capita' context- the countries on the Wired list would rank very differently, although it is difficult to be certain without knowing the absolute number of requests for those countries with '<10 [removal] requests'.</p><blockquote><p>HTML tables not supported, so:</p><p>Removal…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 15:32:22 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Andre Alessi</title>
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						<blockquote><p>My yardstick is to ensure nothing appears there that I wouldn't want my mother reading.</p></blockquote><p>My mother has oft remarked that she wishes I were a tad more interesting for this very reason.</p><p>I personally don't have a particularly iron fisted grip on my personal information online (other than my…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 15:16:04 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Perhaps I'm missing something.</p></blockquote><p>Me too. My browser would generally seem unique on account of the IP address it connects from.</p><p>Interesting that someone could profile my browser, so changing IPs wouldn't hide it. But obviously, changing browsers would. Or workstations. Or any single one of the settings they profile…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 15:14:59 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Dave Patrick</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Mediawatch sounded a cautionary note about the news media's use of social media for story leads.</p></blockquote><p>This, and the associated reporting of Facebook messages, "Your Views" posts and tweets as news, is something that seems to be happening more and more. Do reporters not actually go and interview real people…</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 14:46:16 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>David Ritchie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>That is seriously awesome.</p></blockquote><p>Perhaps I'm missing something. That's all pretty standard stuff (user agent string, supported plugins). Where's the page which tells me which pr0n sites I've been visiting?</p>
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				<title>John Fouhy</title>
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						<p>Here's a recent essay by Bruce Schneier: <a href="http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2010/04/privacy_and_con.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2010/04/privacy_and_con.html</a></p><blockquote><p>In January, Facebook Chief Executive Mark Zuckerberg declared the age of privacy to be over.<br />[...]<br />It's just not true. People, including the younger generation, still care about privacy. [...] They're not technically sophisticated about privacy and make mistakes all the time,…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Panopticlick's browser uniqueness test</p></blockquote><p>Wow &ndash; big difference with script blocking on or off for that site.</p>
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				<title>James Butler</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Is this the right time to mention Panopticlick's browser uniqueness test?</p></blockquote><p>Damn:</p><p><em>Your browser fingerprint appears to be unique among the 812,895 tested so far.</em></p><p>And this is Firefox on Ubuntu, which is the <strong>most</strong> common browser/OS combination I use...</p><p>EDIT: I lie &ndash; from now on I'm browsing exclusively…</p>
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				<title>John Fouhy</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Very smart &ndash; and worrying when combined with Facebook et al's continued pushes for web-wide identity</p></blockquote><p>It is smart &mdash; and apparently that history-stealing attack has been known about for ten years.  Browser makers have done nothing about it because they don't want to compromise usability.</p><p>If you use Firefox,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 14:28:03 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Is this the right time to mention Panopticlick's browser uniqueness test?</p></blockquote><p>Yes.</p><p>That is seriously awesome.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 14:18:10 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>JackElder</title>
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						Is this the right time to mention Panopticlick's <a href="https://panopticlick.eff.org/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">browser uniqueness test</a>?
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>see if the link changes colour</p></blockquote><p>Very smart &ndash; and worrying when combined with Facebook et al's continued pushes for web-wide identity</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 13:49:24 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>John Fouhy</title>
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						<p>I read an interesting article a little while ago on de-anonymization.  Here's the post: <a href="http://33bits.org/2010/02/19/ubercookies-history-stealing-social-web/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://33bits.org/2010/02/19/ubercookies-history-stealing-social-web/</a></p><p>I'll try to summarise: </p><p>1. The web is really social these days.  We are out there joining facebook groups, following people on twitter, joining livejournal communities, flickr groups, etc etc.  The precise collection of groups…</p>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It then offers several scenarios where the line is not so clear:</p></blockquote><p>There is nothing new here. To my mind these are social issues that should be of no interest to law makers, not technology or legal ones.</p><p>It is up to you to protect your privacy as much as…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 12:21:33 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Public Address</title>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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