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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						Because of Dateline’s complaint, which appears to be more in the form of a legal threat than a formal BSA complaint, and subsequent communications from SBS, I’m unable to continue this discussion beyond what I’ve already said. I presume Jon is in a similar position. I find this extremely regrettable.…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 10:11:44 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>One surviving child said she saw lights of other US soldiers in the yard while her family was being massacred, Brown and co reckon that is dodgy reporting eh?</q></p><p>Two experienced, courageous and respected war reporters, Jon Stephenson and Bette Dam, <em>who were there on the scene and interviewed witnesses</em>…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 07:40:06 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						Medication time.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 22:00:19 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>James George</title>
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						Perhaps if Brown & co had put an equal amount of effort into investigating those news broadcasts by the BBC, CBS & A-J english, that are just trite regurgitations of the talking points daily foisted upon us by the governments of the nations that instigated the murderous and unwarranted invasion of Afghanistan,…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 20:04:10 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Withers</title>
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						My issue is with what terrible stewards the National party are of our public assets. Ripping up public broadcasting and defaulting to Sky seems a terrible way to enhance the value and returns from the public media assets we all have a share in. The same goes for the asset…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 19:39:21 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Just because Murdoch is an arsehole, though, doesn’t mean the Nats are actually in bed with him. They can just as easily take advantage of the climate he creates</q></p><p>In the interview I did with him today, Bryan Gould suggested that Murdoch doesn't <em>need</em> to seek regulatory favours here as…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 20:39:53 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						As Russell and others have pointed out, one  explanation for the free ride Sky TV has had in NZ is because they have a full-time lobbyist (Tony O'Brien) in Parliament, who has  privileged access to all areas, representing the interests of monopolistic private company.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 18:19:47 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						<p>a heartfelt +1!<br />My experiences with some media people has made me determined to never have anything more to do with them (reguardless of whether it’s an event or a person.)</p><p>O, except for the tribe...</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 16:26:08 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						<p>Pretty much right on the ownership. The Companies Office reports Sky Network Television Limited's shareholdings as:</p><p>Total Number of Shares:		389139785<br />NEWS LIMITED	<br />43.65%	169854716<br />TODD COMMUNICATIONS LIMITED	<br />11.11%	43220277<br />HSBC NOMINEES (NEW ZEALAND) LIMITED	<br />3.15%	12259317<br />NATIONAL NOMINEES NEW ZEALAND LIMITED	<br />2.94%	11436132<br />Accident Compensation Corporation		<br />2.66%	10356379<br />J…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 16:07:41 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Graham Dunster</title>
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						Another illustration that very little we get fed by the media is sufficiently trustworthy. Any one who has been involved in an event that has become the focus of media attention quickly learns to treat other events' reporting with great caution as one's own event's mis-reporting must inevitably be replicated…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 11:51:16 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Withers</title>
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						Are we seeing the same ‘Murdoch effect’ here in New Zealand? The wings are being pulled off public broadcasting in favour of Sky TV……which (last time I checked) is 44% owned by Rupert Murdoch. Sky Chairman, Peter MacCourt, come from Murdoch’s News Limited in Australia, where he has worked since…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 11:35:01 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Way too many scare-quotes in that screed. Apparently Jon Stephenson is a “New Zealander”, a “reporter” and a “special correspondent”.</q></p><p>Indeed. It's the kind of reference point by which you assess a text. The fact that the author clearly hadn't even googled Jon's name before potting him as an American…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 18:25:40 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						<p><q>No, they’re complaining about our programme to the New Zealand BSA (or not &mdash; it's unclear whether it's a formal complaint or a defamation threat</q></p><p>Oh, I misread, sorry.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 17:09:39 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Curtis</title>
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						<p>This post by 'powow' on the debatingchambers website seems to give an opposite point of view than that given by Mediawatch<br /><a href="http://debatingchambers.com/310_panjwai-march-11-2012-eyewitnesses-to-the-slaughter-of-innocents#comment-23" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://debatingchambers.com/310_panjwai-march-11-2012-eyewitnesses-to-the-slaughter-of-innocents#comment-23</a><br />Have we moved past the slaughter of innocents to a real battle  <em>in the media</em></p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 15:52:38 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Curtis</title>
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						<p>Considering that even witnesses's stories can be confused, embellished or contradictory this is par for the course. Any viewers who think that  all the truth is being told in the first reports must have a low credulity level.<br />This seems to be just another journalistic spat over terms such as…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 15:32:51 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Martin Lindberg</title>
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						<p><q>Yalda Hakim, the Dateline reporter has, meanwhile, alerted her Twitter followers to this screed, which contains this bizarre passage:</q></p><p>Way too many scare-quotes in that screed. Apparently Jon Stephenson is a "New Zealander", a "reporter" and a "special correspondent".</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 15:00:24 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>SBS are complaining about a programme they broadcast? Wow. That’s fucked up.</q></p><p>No, they’re complaining about our programme to the New Zealand BSA (or not &mdash; it's unclear whether it's a formal complaint or a defamation threat) – after *the ABC’s* Media Watch used a comment made by Jon Stephenson…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 14:32:49 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						SBS are complaining about a programme they broadcast? Wow. That's fucked up.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 14:01:14 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Public Address</title>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 14:01:14 +1200</pubDate>
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