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				<title>Alan Macdougall</title>
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						And... Optus have just announced they'll have the <a href="http://www.optus.com.au/portal/site/aboutoptus/menuitem.813c6f701cee5a14f0419f108c8ac7a0/?vgnextoid=a6cf439877ac9110VgnVCMServer29867c0aRCRD&amp;vgnextchannel=b54ce67d77677110VgnVCM10000029867c0aRCRD&amp;vgnextfmt=default" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">iPhone in Australia too</a> &ndash; so the Vodafone deal is definitely not exclusive there... maybe there is hope for Telecom.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 06:55:31 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Deborah</title>
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						I couldn't finish it, despite being a Tolkien nerd from way back.  Too damned depressing.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 10:32:24 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>For example the Narn I Chin Hurin &ndash; it's got all the elements you need. A curse, a family split apart, unrequited love, incest, and suicide (actually make that suicides) to name but a few.</p></blockquote><p>I just read that last week in sunny Rarotonga. My brother asked me if it…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 10:25:27 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						Since the stuff between Hobbit and  LOTR are not written in long novel form, they can do anything. We know the basic plotlines that link the books, but they can make up an entirely new story if they want.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 02:08:47 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Felix Marwick</title>
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						<blockquote><p>it's got all the elements you need. A curse, a family split apart, unrequited love, incest, and suicide (actually make that suicides) to name but a few.</p></blockquote><p>Oh and I almost forgot.</p><p>Murder at semi-frequent intervals.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 22:56:47 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Felix Marwick</title>
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						<p>At the risk of joining the Tolkien geekdom.</p><p>I would suggest there are certain aspects of the Silmarillion that would make a good film. For example the Narn I Chin Hurin &ndash; it's got all the elements you need. A curse, a family split apart, unrequited love, incest, and suicide…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 22:50:15 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ben Austin</title>
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						I've been seeing £100 iphones, unlocked in a few rather, or at least potentially, dodgy stores around London of late. However there is apparently some sort of legal action going on in the background from Apple to stop this.  Either way I won't even consider getting one till the 3G…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 20:57:13 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						s/ISP/mobile telco
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 19:32:34 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>I used to use a service in the UK which gatewayed an 0845 (national toll rate, 2p/minute or so) number into email &ndash; you got a mail with an MP3 of the message. Did fax as well.</p><p>I haven't heard of that here, but we don't have the inbound revenue…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 19:32:06 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen Knightly</title>
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						<p>Could you do a one-hour Doctor Who show, I wonder?  </p><p>Just did a search and found <a href="http://nz.youtube.com/watch?v=2SfCeGUCydU" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this</a>:  30 years of TV history condensed into a few minutes.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 16:02:24 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						Paul, my experience is in Asia mostly, and, true, here one can top up although I rarely remember sadly. However my newish Indonesian on-account phone roams through the region so I'm going to be able to avoid the Vodafone charges and instead use my Telkomsel number to make my 6c…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 15:17:39 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						Simon &ndash; true &ndash; some places you can top them up I keep a US one alive most of the time &ndash; but then we have a US VOIP number at home in NZ &ndash; mostly we used roaming to text "I'm staying at <insert hotel number>" and even that can be…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 14:47:05 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Shep  Cheyenne</title>
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						Cliff Curtis has to be Bilbo.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 14:42:43 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>Are there going to be Hobbits in The Dambusters?</p><p><em>"I say ginger he's on your tail, he's on your tail"<br />"Sorry wingco, I'm too short to reach the controls, being a hobbit and that, old bean"</em></p><p>Or Jackson could remake his best film, Braindead but have hobbits instead of zombies…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 14:35:50 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Well... he won't be needed for The Hobbit, but I imagine he'll make some appearance in the second &ndash; didn't he &amp; the rangers track Gollum down for Gandalf? (um... been close to 35 years since I read it)</p></blockquote><p>The things that Aragorn does between hobbit and LOTR are meet Gandalf,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 14:26:40 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Rowe</title>
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						<blockquote><p>More to the point &ndash; who will play young Bilbo?</p></blockquote><p>Another string to Russell's bow?</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 14:24:28 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						More to the point &ndash; who will play young Bilbo?
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 14:19:24 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I don't know about 'Vodaphone price gouging on roaming' &ndash; doesn't everyone buy a cheap local SIM card instead? I know I have a nice little collection</p></blockquote><p>well, firstly they expire rather quickly so that collection may be worthless. Secondly there seems little point, sitting in an airport for three…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 14:19:04 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						<blockquote><p>the thought of more hobbits on screen depresses the hell out me.</p></blockquote><p>I think that it will be mandatory to have hobbits in every New Zealand film made from now on.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 14:18:44 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						Just to be contrary, the thought of more hobbits on screen depresses the hell out me.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 14:15:47 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						I don't know about 'Vodaphone price gouging on roaming' &ndash; doesn't everyone buy a cheap local SIM card instead? I know I have a nice little collection
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						<blockquote><p>No mention was made of Aragorn. No mention has been made that I've seen of Viggo. Aragorn's role pre-LOTR is pretty minor</p></blockquote><p>Well... he won't be needed for The Hobbit, but I imagine he'll make some appearance in the second &ndash; didn't he &amp; the rangers track Gollum down for Gandalf?…</p>
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				<title>Paul Rowe</title>
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						<p><a href="http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Guillermo_del_Toro%27s_The_Hobbit" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Guillermo_del_Toro%27s_The_Hobbit</a></p><p>Get the guff from Geek Central!</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 13:37:32 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>B Jones</title>
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						It would make a lot of sense for the elves from Rivendell (and Legolas in Mirkwood) to do a bit of a cameo reappearance even though the story doesn't call for anything more than Elrond and Thranduil plus Elf 1, Elf 2 etc.  Providing they all haven't aged too much…
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>The issues people are having with secondary ISPs kind of validates my call not to mess about and just go with Telecom. I know some people regard IT acquisition as an opportunity to make a political point, but I prefer to just live with my single point of blame.</p><p>Course,…</p>
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				<title>Deborah</title>
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						<blockquote><p>but didn't teh necromancer episode occur before the events in the Hobbit?</p></blockquote><p>No &ndash; recall that Gandalf leaves the dwarves and the hobbit on the outskirts of Mirkwood, and then goes away to deal with some other business, which turns out to be driving the Necromancer from Mirkwood.</p>
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				<title>Paul Rowe</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm guessing no chance.</p></blockquote><p>Logically the intermediate film would advance the story of the ring of power: less hobbits, more wizards and elves.  More Gollum.  Perhaps intertwined (Godfather Pt 2-like) with the story of Aragorn.</p><p>More than enough for a film, difficult to keep coherent though.</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>That'll be Walsh. Fran Wilde is the one who freed teh gays.</p></blockquote><p>Duh. Switch brain on before demonstrating fanboy knowledge.</p><blockquote><p>And while I'd definitely frak Viggo with the lights on, I don't know how many more vaseline-caked shots of Liv Tyler looking vaguely confused I can handle.</p></blockquote><p>They've resigned Andy…</p>
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						<p><quoteZ>that leaves a substantial amount of ground to cover &ndash; travels of Gollum, rise of Sauron, evilisation of Saruman, mirkwood etc.</p></blockquote><br /><br />And the recolonisation of Moria by Balin. And presumably his demise...
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm crossing fingers for things that were in LOTR that weren't included in the film being shifted to the hobbit film<br />eg tom bombadil</p></blockquote><p>I'm guessing no chance.</p><blockquote><p>Also i suspect saruman before he got evil and gandalf freeing mirkwood from the hold of the necromancer is possible</p></blockquote><p>Agreed about…</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						I would imagine <a href="http://mail.google.com/mail/#inbox/119c0bfb84586ea4" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> this</a> could be a bit of family fun for any household. I want one....just need a bigger house!
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				<title>Deborah</title>
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						He turns 50 during <em>The Hobbit</em>.
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				<title>Paul Rowe</title>
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						<blockquote>Hobbit will be film 1. Film 2 will be entirely between the end of the hobbit and beginning of fellowship. How they're going to hollywood that sufficiently, I don't know, but the new director has been in talks with Jackson and Wilde about it and all three are in agreement…</blockquote>
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				<title>Deborah</title>
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						<p>Also the meeting that Thorin and Gandalf have in <em>The Prancing Pony</em>, before the start of <em>The Hobbit</em>, in which they discuss the danger of the dragon (recounted in <em>The Book of Lost Tales</em>, I think).</p><p>I think I'm coming out as a nerd too...</p>
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				<title>Sue</title>
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						<p>ok stop me if i get too nerdy</p><blockquote><p>I've fond memories ofThe Hobbit, but I'm seeing how its going to fill two features &mdash; especially if they're bloated out to the usual Jackson length.</p></blockquote><p>I'm crossing fingers for things that were in LOTR that weren't included in the film being…</p>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Sigh &ndash; $700 for something that costs US$400? &ndash; are they going to be plated in gold? at today's exchange rate that US$400 is NZ$505 .... I predict the "I'll unlock your iPhone for $50" people will do a brisk business</p></blockquote><p>More than that..AT&amp;T are planning on offering the 3G iPhone…</p>
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				<title>Deborah</title>
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						<blockquote><p>sadly those elves are very long lived</p></blockquote><p>So will Brett McKenzie get to reprise his role as <a href="http://www.figwitlives.net/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Figwit</a>?</p>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						sadly those elves are very long lived .... just be glad he's not doing the Silmarillion
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>but the new director has been in talks with Jackson and Wilde about it and all three are in agreement there's a good movie there.</p></blockquote><p>Oh, do not even get me started on Guillermo Del Toro &mdash; whose <em>Pan's Labyrinth</em>  kicked Kong's arse, IMNSHO and should have won the Oscar…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Wow! Looks like it <a href="http://apple20.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/05/06/iphones-for-vodafone-and-telecom-italia-too/?source=yahoo_quote" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">just might be non-exclusive</a> ...</p><blockquote><p>But most of the important details were missing from Vodafone’s press release. When does the deal start? Is it exclusive? Is there a revenue sharing agreement? Will Vodafone be selling first- or second-generation iPhones? (Some of the countries listed don’t have…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						Sigh &ndash; $700 for something that costs US$400? &ndash; are they going to be plated in gold? at today's exchange rate that US$400 is NZ$505 .... I predict the "I'll unlock your iPhone for $50" people will do a brisk business
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						<blockquote>Film 2 will be entirely between the end of the hobbit and beginning of fellowship. How they're going to hollywood that sufficiently, I don't know, but the new director has been in talks with Jackson and Wilde about it and all three are in agreement there's a good movie there.</blockquote>…
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>but the new director has been in talks with Jackson and Wilde about it ...</p></blockquote><p>That'll be <em>Walsh</em>. Fran Wilde is the one who freed teh gays.</p>
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				<title>Nat Torkington</title>
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						Re: the DSL experience, it's just variation on the same old.  In the US, DSL was managed similar to NZ, where a former (and still effective) monopoly owned everyone's last mile (Qwest in Colorado's case, Telecom in NZ's) and gave ISPs hooks into the installation system to get DSL running…
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And could Charlie Ross please offer his services to Peter Jackson? I've fond memories ofThe Hobbit, but I'm seeing how its going to fill two features &mdash; especially if they're bloated out to the usual Jackson length.</p></blockquote><p>Hobbit will be film 1. Film 2 will be entirely between the end…</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>(don't hold your breath for a version of the prequel trilogy, because really, what was that about?)</p></blockquote><p>I've watched Clones about three times now &ndash; it was on TV a while ago and I videoed it for my son who is a star wars fan.</p><p>Every time I watch it,…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						And could Charlie Ross please offer his services to Peter Jackson?  I've fond memories of<em>The Hobbit</em>, but I'm seeing how its going to fill two features &mdash; especially if they're bloated out to the usual Jackson length.
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>(don't hold your breath for a version of the prequel trilogy, because really, what was that about?)</p></blockquote><p>That any galaxy defended by clones of Jake The Muss is asking for everything it gets?</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Maybe working in IT helps me navigate support desks better, but I have no problem with them, they had tracked my call, and the issue has been escalated.</p></blockquote><p>Anthony's no slouch on IT &mdash; he was a specialist IT journalist before I was, and that's a while. It seems that…</p>
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				<title>Alan Macdougall</title>
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						With regard to the iPhone, nowhere does it say there's an *exclusive* agreement &ndash; so maybe Telecom can remain hopeful...
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				<title>Brian Murphy</title>
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						<p>I went with the Orcon Gold + on the Mt Albert exchange.</p><p>Getting 10Mb+ down and 880+Kb up according to the speed tests. I am over a k from the exchange, not 2k though.</p><p>The phone rings with a US ring (have a call in about this), but otherwise my…</p>
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						Excellent &ndash; I'm off to that show on Thursday night, courtesy of a rather excited mother who seemed to catch the Star Wars buzz in the 80s even more than the sons she was allegedly buying the toys for...
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p>The prequel could be a half hour....really it only had enough material for 2 short movies or one long one. That said, I did really enjoy the Revenge of the Sith.</p><p>LOTR in one hour? Clerks II managed to do it in 30 secs.</p>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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