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				<title>simon g</title>
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						So is the amended bill not going to be officially revealed now until Monday? Does that mean we get a weekend of leaks, with media coverage and protests about things which may or may not exist? All a bit messy, can't they stay behind after school until it's done?
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				<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:50:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Via No Right Turn, a <a href="http://norightturn.blogspot.com/2007/11/election-funding-hrc-changes-its-mind.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">story you won't read in the Herald</a>:</p><blockquote><p>The Human Rights Commission has altered its view after the Justice and Electoral select committee's handling of the controversial Electoral Finance Bill, according to Green Party co- leader Russel Norman.<br />[...]</p><p>Norman said he understood the commission has…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 10:21:34 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Venetia King</title>
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						<blockquote><p>... everyone between 15 &ndash; 25 was there for the Foo Fighters, whereas everyone older than that were there for Sonic Youth, there was no cross-over at all.</p></blockquote><p>Heh, I was 25 and was there for both &ndash; I'll admit to having been leaning more in FF's direction though, and…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:53:20 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>WH</title>
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						<p>Nice post Russell.  Hopefully the problems with the EFB will be ironed out in select committee.  </p><p>Given that the Law Society noted that regulating electoral financing is a legitimate constitutional objective, the Herald's shotgun approach seems unlikely to advance public understanding.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:23:30 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote>Quite. I was at that Jan '96 gig and Sonic Youth were outstanding, far better than those chronic dullards the Foo Fighters who were the main support act (local skronk act White-Winged Moth were on first). Sonic Youth rocked, then finished with a full-on, 20-min version of 'Diamond Sea' with…</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:08:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Grant McDougall</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I saw Sonic Youth at the Wellington Town Hall years ago and was bored nearly to tears. But each to their own :)</p></blockquote><p>Quite. I was at that Jan '96 gig and Sonic Youth were outstanding, far better than those chronic dullards the Foo Fighters who were the main  support…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:30:50 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Venetia King</title>
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						<p>I've probably missed the boat on this thread but never mind...</p><p>I saw Sonic Youth at the Wellington Town Hall years ago and was bored nearly to tears. But each to their own :)</p><p>The Veils show at the Masonic in Devonport was also pretty packed, the night before the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:09:55 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jeremy Andrew</title>
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						<blockquote><p>All the kids are doing it. Writing messages on puppies (or "pmail") is totally the new Facebook.</p></blockquote><p>Yup, <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/10/30/canine_graffiti/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">its in the news</a> all over the world</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:04:56 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Bruce Wurr</title>
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						<p>First saw Sonic Youth at the Powerstation, January 1989, 3 weeks after daydream nation had come out in nz.....support from SPUD and the Verlaines. I have to say that totally blew my mind, I'd never seen anything like it before.......</p><p>Have also just seen the said reprise gig at the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:06:33 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I've been trying to tell my agency that we're wasting our time with this newfangled telegraph thing</p></blockquote><p>I'm still raging against the fax machine. I mean, I know '80s retro is in right now, but one has to draw the line somewhere.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:42:28 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joanna</title>
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						<blockquote><p>All the kids are doing it. Writing messages on puppies (or "pmail") is totally the new Facebook.</p></blockquote><p>Oh man, I've been trying to tell my agency that we're wasting our time with this newfangled telegraph thing, but they refuse to listen to my suggestions to go back to the old…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:34:22 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p>I'll say this in the Herald's defence. Most days in NZ it's "All the news worth reading". Which is kind of a rag on NZ, unless, like me, you subscribe to "No news is good news".</p><p>Wow so we had our first 'terrorist raids'. As predicted, some guys are going…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:15:36 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Sad isn't it that this is something worth noting?! Why back in my day, when I was a lad, last century, you could go to any one of 317 venues in Auckland to watch live music. Gluepot, Mainstreet, Powerstation, etc, and all sold out.</p></blockquote><p>As i were passing the Powerstation…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:21:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Deborah</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It's like those mouth-watering pictures outside bland fast food joints.</p></blockquote><p><a href="http://inastrangeland.wordpress.com/2007/10/29/image-vs-reality/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">I blogged this myself</a> a couple of weeks ago, but clearly it needs a much wider audience.</p><p><a href="http://www.hungry-girl.com/externalink.php?frameurl=http://www.thewvsr.com/adsvsreality.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Fast food &ndash; advertising pictures vs reality.</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:06:09 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p>I wonder when they'll ask people to send in their Democracy Under Attack stories to share. Of course they'd print all the same authors as in their "Send us your P story".</p><p><em>It's like those mouth-watering pictures outside bland fast food joints.</em></p><p>Yup or "Jen's Desperate Rage", to describe an…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:43:30 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>simon g</title>
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						It's quite funny seeing the Herald's excitable new campaign heading plonked over their usual news online. The link below is to a standard, pretty predictable "he said, she said" NZPA report, but now enticingly labelled a "Democracy Under Attack Story". It's like those mouth-watering pictures outside bland fast food joints.…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:02:05 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>This article is for you, Craig (tho possibly you have seen it before).</p></blockquote><p>Gee, that's wonderful.  Thanks, Deborah.</p><p>Haven't see it before &ndash; 2003 was a patch when I didn't have a lot of discretionary income for magazines, so <em>The Spectator</em> was it.  Jonathan Rauch is great though, and I…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:42:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>That wasn't hacking. Craig just wanted the blue rinse lady to leave him alone!</p></blockquote><p>And those rapacious leeches would take every penny you have.  They're fleshy, perfumed pokie machines in fabulously sensible shoes, I tell you! *sob* (Oh, Gods, I'm going to get such an arse-kicking...) :)</p><blockquote><p>Is the Labour…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:15:37 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Deborah</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm just the kind of person who needs to meditate for a couple of hours before going to a party, and a week to recover.</p></blockquote><p><a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200303/rauch" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">This article</a> is for you, Craig (tho possibly you have seen it before).</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:58:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It's a bit like claiming somebody "hacked" your raffle because you let them have any number of tickets they liked for $2 and they took the lot...</p></blockquote><p>That wasn't hacking. Craig just wanted the blue rinse lady to leave him alone!</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:52:29 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Deborah</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But, boy, it's a little rich to complain &ndash; as The Standard etc. has done &ndash; that the Herald is off on some Tory cursade against the government, when the minister responsible for the bill won't front up to a previously scheduled interview.</p></blockquote><p>Well, yes, but reading between the lines,…</p>
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				<title>Heather Gaye</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I don't take these on-line polls seriously to begin with, but obviously the Herald does</p></blockquote><p>..which is bloody insidious.  It's a bloody internet poll, but the way the herald is trumpeting about it, I'm not bloody surprised that the great unwashed have gotten the idea that it actually means something;…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:42:01 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>dave crampton</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Meaning they should have got it right the first time, right? Meaning they should have redrafted a new bill earlier on, right and  <em>listened</em> to a few people, right?</p></blockquote><p>I did use the word "debacle" ...</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p>Oh, and one more thing to think about when complaining about how 'biased' the <em>Herald</em> is:</p><blockquote><p>An interview scheduled by the Herald with new Justice Minister Annette King was cancelled yesterday.</p><p>She issued a short statement instead: "I am sure that the bill as it is reported back will reflect…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:34:49 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Finn Higgins</title>
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						<p>Let me see: The NZ Herald designs a system which allows somebody to repeatedly send a well-formed HTTP POST to their server and logs the results as a vote in a poll.  Somebody votes multiples times, and this is "hacking"?  Why, it's positively a design feature...</p><p>Of course, deliberately slanting…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:25:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Hmmm. ;)</p></blockquote><p>Heh... the VRWC is a dark and terrible thing but I'm neither patient enough to slap a button five thousand times or geek up some bot that would do it for me.  I down load my e-mail without incident and I'm chuffed. :)</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:17:26 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>merc</title>
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						<p>My view, as you know Craig (Deborah's blog) is that it's all about ad revenue from the Govt. Social Marketing Budget (really that's what it's called), and it won't be calculated as Election Spending.<br />Most of the dough is going to TV, buckets of it.</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>...and we even get hacked!!! We are important still, really, we are.</p></blockquote><p>Well, Merc, would it really be too much to ask to give a little credit where credit is due?  I don't take these on-line polls seriously to begin with, but obviously the <em>Herald</em> does.  Seems to me like…</p>
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				<title>3410</title>
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						<p>Craig:</p><blockquote><p>'The public'? Oh, you mean a self-selecting sample in a poll where it's possble to vote multiple times? (I know it's possible because I did it.)</p></blockquote><p>Herald:</p><blockquote><p>nzherald.co.nz"s technical team has established that a single hacker managed to vote more than 5000 times in a period of about 10…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:04:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>people do benefit from social interaction with like-minded folks.</p></blockquote><p>I'd be pretty bitter if anyone ever suggested banning that...but the sausages guilt trip, what's that about? Where does the democracy part come in there?</p><blockquote><p>It's cruel &ndash; you try explaining to a sweet old lady with a raffle book that…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:03:30 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I think all that carry-on doesn't really tally with the gravity they're ascribing to their claims</p></blockquote><p>Yes, and I don't see Exclusive Brethren and American bag persons under every bed either &ndash; and wish folks who really are smart enough to know better would stop the apocalyptic ding-battery about anyone…</p>
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				<title>merc</title>
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						...and we even get hacked!!! We are important still, really, we are.
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I was confused because it was actually a tenable position, that all that glorious fund raising isn't particularly relevant to the democratic process.</p></blockquote><p>It's not totally irrelevant &ndash; just not my bag.  A political party is a wee bit more than an ATM cum think tank, people do benefit from…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And I'm not judging them in relation to Fairfax papers &ndash; I'm saying that 'neutrally' observing that competitors aren't toeing the corporate line, and especially insinuating that this is a bad thing, is real schoolyard stuff.</p></blockquote><p>I think all that carry-on doesn't really tally with the gravity they're ascribing to…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:41:50 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>You're printing your announcements on puppies now?</p></blockquote><p>All the kids are doing it. Writing messages on puppies (or "pmail") is totally the new Facebook.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:39:37 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Oh yes. Wellingtonista and Public Address both have a pending announcement on that puppy ...</p></blockquote><p>You're printing your announcements on puppies now? Oh the caninity!</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>A damn sight more healthy and dynamic than the feral rat-bastardry that seems to be part and parcel of state-funding of political parties and political campaigns.</p></blockquote><p>Ah ic. You were being sarcastic.</p><p>I was confused because it was actually a tenable position, that all that glorious fund raising isn't particularly…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:33:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jimmy Hayes</title>
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						<p>I agree with most of your post there, but I don't think you're actually addressing the point I was making, especially by just quoting three words of my post.</p><p>I liked that the Herald did include a true cross-section of response (although this site was a notable and inexplicable exclusion),…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:28:30 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hamboy</title>
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						<blockquote><p>(Meanwhile I've been on hold with Qantas [planning my next international observation] for 8 minutes, they're not coming back are they??)</ quote><br />The computer says, no.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:25:58 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-finance-campaign/?p=34121#post34121</link>
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						<blockquote><p>Grow up, Herald.</p></blockquote><p>Jimmy: As I said above,  Colin Espiner's post had some interesting stuff in it.  But let's be blunt here, I don't think catty asides like <em>Readers of this Auckland newspaper know not to turn to this organ for balanced, unbiased coverage on this particular topic</em> contributed anything…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:52:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>kmont</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-finance-campaign/?p=34119#post34119</link>
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						<blockquote><p>Oh yes. Wellingtonista and Public Address both have a pending announcement on that puppy ...</p></blockquote><p>Sqweeeeeeeeeeeeee (or however you spell that)</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:50:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm going to join Robyn in a jumping up and down with excitement, but about things that will soon all be revealed, but have something to do with the Second Annual Wellingtonista Awards...</p></blockquote><p>Oh yes. Wellingtonista and Public Address <em>both</em> have a pending announcement on that puppy ...</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:44:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jimmy Hayes</title>
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						Ha &ndash; surely the restrictions being put on someone's IP address in the Herald polls are a restriction on free speech?
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:41:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jimmy Hayes</title>
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						<p>From that Herald link above...</p><blockquote><p>The Herald's main competitor, Fairfax-owned newspapers and websites, carry differing views.</p><p>A Dominion-Post editorial opposes the intent of the Electoral Finance Bill, calling it "outrageous".</p><p>...</p><p>But curiously a political blogger on Fairfax's stuff.co.nz, Colin Espiner, claims the opposition to the bill is overstated...</p></blockquote><p>Yes,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:39:54 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-finance-campaign/?p=34113#post34113</link>
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						<blockquote><p>Well Ranapia has had a narrow escape, i had to spend five minutes calming my dear old Mum down, a more formidable women I wouldn't care to come across.</p></blockquote><p>Tom, I thought we were keeping our kinky fantasy scenes on the downlow...</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:38:48 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>InternationalObserver</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-the-finance-campaign/?p=34111#post34111</link>
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						I digress:<blockquote>'The public'? Oh, you mean a self-selecting sample in a poll where it's possble to vote multiple times? (I know it's possible because I did it.)</blockquote>The Auckland City Council do the same thing when they 'consult' with ratepayers about various issues. Anyone from anywhere can log on to their…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:31:38 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Mark Thomas</title>
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						<p>uh, was this you, russell?</p><p><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10475793&amp;pnum=0" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Hacker targets Herald free speech poll</a></p><blockquote><p>nzherald.co.nz"s technical team has established that a single hacker managed to vote more than 5000 times in a period of about 10 minutes.</p><p>The hacker was using a dynamic xtra IP address &ndash; 222.152.66.116. (The "reverse lookup" is 222-152-66-116.jetstream.xtra.co.nz.)</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:25:39 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joanna</title>
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						I'm going to join Robyn in a jumping up and down with excitement, but about things that will soon all be revealed, but have something to do with the <a href="http://wellingtonista.com/announcing-the-second-annual-wellingtonista-awards-nominations " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Second Annual Wellingtonista Awards</a>...
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:23:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Rowe</title>
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						Screw the politics, if Sonic Youth can convince the Dead C to support again I might get a bit excited too.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:20:50 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Mark Thomas</title>
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						<blockquote><p>On Thursday night, both the Veils and Liam Finn sold out their shows</p></blockquote><p>tell me about it, the kings arms was jam packed &ndash; i was about 10 metres back and it still felt like a mosh pit.  The Veils were awesome though.  Finn sang like he was going to…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:19:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>InternationalObserver</title>
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						Since Robyn has picked up on the other part of RB's blog ... can we just take a moment to consider:<blockquote>A little entertainment news: people in this town are paying to go out and see live music. On Thursday night, both the Veils and Liam Finn sold out their shows,…</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:19:02 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<p>Never mind this "democracy" carry-on. I'm excited:</p><blockquote><p>Sonic Youth bring their Don't Look Back show &mdash; a complete recital of 1988 Daydream Nation album, plus more, to the Bruce Mason centre on Feb 16 next year.</p></blockquote><p>I squealed with delight when I read this news. And it's at the Bruce…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:50:49 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And I see Russell Brown consulted/quoted nearly as much as the sensible sentencing trust or some Union source... and I quite like that :)</p></blockquote><p>The keys to being quoted a lot in the media are as follows:</p><p>(a) Be available, always</p><p>(b) Fire out press releases (or, second-best write a…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:48:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						Well Ranapia has had a narrow escape, i had to spend five minutes calming my dear old Mum down, a more formidable women I wouldn't care to come across.
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				<title>3410</title>
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						<p>I read it as another attempt by the Herald to perpetuate the "dishonest Labour" meme (I'm not saying there's nothing to it, but there's such a thing as balance).</p><p>With regard to the Herald's self-interest, there's a lot more to it than merely ad revenue. A National-led coalition government would…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:38:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>If the National Party can't convince enough people like me to keep paying our subs (and donating millions of dollars in unpaid labour each electoral cycle), then it doesn't deserve to survive.</p></blockquote><p>I'm not a member of a political party but at first glance I'm in favour of this too.…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:18:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote>A damn sight more healthy and dynamic than the feral rat-bastardry that seems to be part and parcel of state-funding of political parties and political campaigns. I'm just the kind of person who needs to meditate for a couple of hours before going to a party, and a week to…</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:10:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Idiot Savant</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But wouldn't it be prudent to wait a week or two and actually find out what changes have been made to it</p></blockquote><p>Try "hour or two" (or maybe day, at the most).  While the bill has a report-back date of January 25, there's a strong convention that you don't dick…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:08:34 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						One of my best culinary memories is as a child getting platefuls (or was it old ice-cream containers?) of spit-roasted, rosemary-scented lamb from Labour party fundraisers at The Narrows outside Hamilton.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:53:42 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Peter Martin</title>
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						<p>I note that at one stage and quite recently,National  ( hat tip Gerry Brownlee) had no real problems with the parliamentary spending bill,other than wanting a shorter election period.</p><p>One can only wonder the why of this change in policy.</p><blockquote><p>Hon Bill English: If a publication of a similar nature…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:50:24 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>So you're not a fan of DPF's position that those events are a vitally important part of a healthy and dynamic democracy?</p></blockquote><p>A damn sight more healthy and dynamic than the feral rat-bastardry that seems to be part and parcel of state-funding of political parties and political campaigns.  I'm just…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:50:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And bring on state-funding of political parties too &mdash; the more generous the better. You wouldn't believe how many arse-numbingly tedious fundraisers, blue-rinse bats with raffle books and begging letters I've had to put up with over the years. :)</p></blockquote><p>So you're not a fan of DPF's position that those…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:34:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Where is the supporting quote for "It [the Herald] sees no problem in very wealthy individuals being able to anonymously pursue their interests by funnelling millions of dollars through secret party trusts that are opaque to the public."</p><p>Anonymous donations were not addressed in the Herald editorial, nor were they…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:28:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Angus Robertson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Remarkably, the Herald, insofar as its stance is explained in the editorial, does not endorse the objectives of the bill.</p></blockquote><p>Remarkably, the Labour Party, insofar as its intent is explained in the Bill it wrote, does not endorse the objectives of the same frickin Bill.  It sees no problem in…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:17:01 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>Russell your rewrite on the HRC submission is still very misleading:</p><blockquote><p>Yesterday and today, the Herald has quoted the Human Rights Commission's scathing submission on the bill, and reported that the commission has called for the bill to be scrapped altogether. It's not actually true.</p><p>The HRC submission, i is…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:16:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p>FletcherB:</p><p>Sorry if you felt toasted there, B.  Look, unless I've severely misunderstood the one thing the EFB will not be coming back to the House with is a sunset clause, and any exemption for government departments is a blindingly obvious loophole crying out to be abused by incumbents of…</p>
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						<p>I didnt hear the comment vis Laila Harre and free advertising....</p><p>But it occurs to me, if the Herald is giving away free advertising space to what might be considered political bodies, then that IS the sort of thing the Electoral Finance Bill wants to make declareable...</p><p>But, perhaps the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:10:02 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>DaveC</title>
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						<p>Where is the supporting quote for "It [the Herald] sees no problem in very wealthy individuals being able to anonymously pursue their interests by funnelling millions of dollars through secret party trusts that are opaque to the public." </p><p>Anonymous donations were not addressed in the Herald editorial, nor were they…</p>
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						<p><em>But this kind of chest-beating, invective and fact-tweaking is, at least, undignified.</em></p><p>Yes, soon they'll actually join the blogosphere.</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Graeme, I confess, I was working off the HRC's own summary, which says the following:</p><blockquote><p>The Commission suggested that to satisfy the potential infringement on the freedom of expression and the rights of citizens to participate in elections that a new or redrafted bill:</p><p>&ndash; Retain the present regulatory period…</p></blockquote>
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						<p>Meanwhile, somewhere where democracy really is under attack.</p><p><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/2/story.cfm?c_id=2&amp;objectid=10475755" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/2/story.cfm?c_id=2&amp;objectid=10475755</a></p><p>Just so we remember what it actually looks like. I think these guys actually do have WMDs too.</p>
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				<title>Jimmy Hayes</title>
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						I have lost a lot of respect for the Herald. Not that I had a huge amount to begin with, but if I was a decent, apparently level-headed columnist like Audrey Young I'd be pretty damn embarrassed by my paper's ridiculous behaviour.
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>i was really interested in the comments by laila harre yesterday on radio nz regarding the provision of about $0.5 million effectively free advertising for the sensible sentencing trust by the herald. i suspect i'm paraphrasing rather badly. does anyone have more information about this?</p></blockquote><p>I only half heard that…</p>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<blockquote><p>the Herald has quoted the Human Rights Commission's scathing submission on the bill, and reported that the commission has called for the bill to be scrapped altogether. It's not actually true.</p></blockquote><p>Don't tell the HRC that, paragraph 10.2 of their submission seems to put across their view with some clarity:…</p>
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				<title>Chockasunday</title>
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						<p>I would rather have proper state funding of political parties than what is proposed now.<br />It favours the incumbent government too much.</p>
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						<p>Yesterday The Herald also claimed that the "Christian Businessmen" outed themselves during the last election. </p><p>Silly me, I thought it was the Greens that outed the EBs covert campaign. Did the Herald miss that action?</p>
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				<title>DPF</title>
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						Russell is wrong to say the HRC support the year long regulated period.  They explicitly have stated support for the current 90 days.
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I derive much recreational merriment from by annoying them.</p></blockquote><p>You haven't thought of taking up a sport involving some sort of ball or racquet? No? Just checking.</p>
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						<p>Craig R.  A fair point I hadnt considered,  But unless I miss-understand.... those government departments already have a budget to spend, and do so..... its just whats allowed in the content thats changed....  And if its financial self interest, content is of no import... just pages sold?</p><p>Look, I'm no…</p>
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						<p>i was really interested in the comments by laila harre yesterday on radio nz regarding the provision of about $0.5 million effectively free advertising for the sensible sentencing trust by the herald.  i suspect i'm paraphrasing rather badly.  does anyone have more information about this?</p><p>i responded to the stupid…</p>
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						<p><em>Um, right then. Readers of this Auckland newspaper know not to turn to this organ for balanced, unbiased coverage on this particular topic</em></p><p>It may not be helpful but I think it's true. I like to read the Herald but don't make the mistake of ever thinking it's unbiased.</p><p>On…</p>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<p>I guess I've managed to get under your skin at some stage Mr. Ranapia. Oh well, if it makes you feel better... </p><p>Generally speaking I tailor my response to the quality of my audience. Kiwiblog is run by a fundamentally dishonest man who likes to pass himself off as an…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p>Blech... fricking flu.</p><p>That should read:<br />If you're going to run that line, then I guess it's fair to note that the sole daily newspaper in New Zealand's largest media would do very well out of the mooted government department exemption. Would you really be in the least surprised if…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But theres just one little point that the Herald neglects to point out, and I cant help but think it might be at least one of, (if not the major) reason they are making such a song and dance...</p><p>A "spending cap" of any sort, on campaigners of any flavour…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Michael Stevens</title>
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						<p>RB, thanks for the measured analysis here.</p><p>Something about this Bill just makes me very uneasy. Yes, something needs to be done to tighten up our election rules, but I don't think the Bill in this form does it. It really does seem like a knee-jerk reaction against the brethren…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p>And in the interests of balance, I guess I should draw PAS readers' attention to <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/blogs/politics/2007/11/12/the-electoral-finance-bill-is-our-democracy-really-at-threat/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this rather odd counterblast from Colin Espiner</a>.</p><p>Some interesting stuff in there, but I don't think this drive-by was particularly helpful:</p><blockquote><p>Um, right then. Readers of this Auckland newspaper know not to turn to this…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<p>Its hard to know what to make of the Herald's grandiose self importance. </p><p>However, given the frenzy David Farrar has also worked himself into over the issue the only thing I put down the Herald's outburst to is general hope on the part of those who don't like the government…</p>
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						<p>Ah, I just see Keith Ng's OnPoint has posted essentially the same comment as mine above...</p><p>Sorry for the repetition.  It's an obvious point, but I hadn't seen it written down before...</p>
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						<p>Well, in general, I think this bill is badly flawed (at least as its been presented so far) and either needs massive change, or perhaps even scrapping in order to replace it with something more considered and widely supported for the 2011 election....</p><p>But theres just one little point that…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote>Ironically, the response to the Herald's poll on the question "Is New Zealand becoming a less free and democratic country?" &mdash; linked to in a fit of overkill from the editorial and the news stories &mdash; suggested that the public wasn't quite as frenzied as the editors. By late afternoon,…</blockquote>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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