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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						remember that hurricane that made it all the way to Ireland this year, unheard of …. except in the southern Pacific we call Hurricanes “Cyclones” … and the southern west cost is further north than Ireland is south … I expect in the future we’ll see more energetic cyclones lasting…
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				<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2018 22:38:45 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Katharine Moody</title>
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						<p>Oops, meant to link to the PCE document I quoted from;</p><p><a href="http://www.pce.parliament.nz/media/1390/preparing-nz-for-rising-seas-web-small.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.pce.parliament.nz/media/1390/preparing-nz-for-rising-seas-web-small.pdf</a></p><p>p.77.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jan 2018 13:14:01 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Katharine Moody</title>
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						I participated in review of both the first and second drafts of that document – an exercise bound by a confidentiality agreement with the Ministry at the time of its preparation. Hence I can’t say anything specific about my feedback but suffice it to say that were I the government…
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				<pubDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2017 17:20:37 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>There was one other sector that frustrated out commentators: agriculture. The farming lobby – and its intransigent press, which remains stubbornly outside the mainstream – continues to resist reform or, in many cases, even acknowledge a roblem.</q><br />Another sector causing frustration: coastal real estate owners who'll protect their valuations at…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2017 21:53:40 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Alfie</title>
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						Key biographer <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=11967217" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">John Roughan confuses climate with weather</a> in a misguided Herald rant.
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				<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2017 09:05:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Katharine Moody</title>
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						<p>Have read that paper, Hilary. Thanks for the link – very thought provoking and I don’t disagree with them that some sort of NZSF/EQC-like funding instrument is going to likely be needed to address the effects of CC. </p><p>The point I’d make however is that they place the emphasis on…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2017 13:02:33 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>linger</title>
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						Given that SH1 continues south from Picton, that’s still the most logical interpretation of it. Though the Interislander (but not other ferry services) is also technically a continuation of the main trunk railway line.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2017 02:12:41 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						<p><q> just because it's in his electorate and some traffic planner years ago drew SH1 as ending there?<br /></q></p><p>Is Eagle pushing that? I would have thought Annette taught him better. It's a RONS, of course. Once upon a time, SH1 ended at the ferry terminal and the ferry was considered part…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2017 00:25:20 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>Gold Card holders are likely using it for consumptive activity.</q><br />aaah &ndash; the Pulmonary Pullman!</p><p>:- )</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 22 Oct 2017 14:53:51 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Katharine Moody</title>
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						<p><q>because they cost so bloody much for anyone without a gold card to ride.</q></p><p>And isn't that the opposite of what should be the case &ndash; given non-Gold Card holders are (in the main) using the transport to facilitate productive activity (work) &ndash; whereas Gold Card holders are likely using…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2017 11:03:32 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Alfie</title>
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						<p><q>My little Mazda 323’s speedo dial goes up to 240kph!!</q></p><p>That’s most impressive Ian.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2017 11:02:11 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>My little Mazda 323's speedo dial goes up to 240kph!!</q><br />Goodness me, perhaps best not to skite about that. According to the late A.K. Grant, the Mazda 323's great advantage is that it doesn't "excite the envy of the proletariat".</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2017 09:10:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>...the vast majority of vehicles are hopelessly over-powered on the off-chance...</q><br />My little Mazda 323's speedo dial goes up to 240kph!!</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2017 07:17:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kiwiiano</title>
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						Well, in terms of their carbon footprint, it was noted that the original VW Beetles hd a lower gas consumption per km than the new ones, because they were a lot lighter and had a lot less 'extras'. True, without all the side intrusion bars and reinforced passenger compartments they…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2017 20:21:11 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Lara</title>
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						<p><q>evenironmengt</q> :D</p><p>But yes, very pleased at the policy.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2017 18:35:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>John Farrell</title>
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						An induction coil large enough to charge a bus effectively would fry anyone who walked over it with anything metallic. Also &ndash; what cars do you class as old? 1990s?
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2017 18:23:21 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kiwiiano</title>
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						To be fair, trolley buses are an unsightly mess. We’d be far better off to have electric buses that top up their batteries every time they stop at a bus stop from the coils buried below, picking up enough charge to make it a few stops beyond. The fact they…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2017 17:27:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Katharine Moody</title>
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						Thanks, will read.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2017 15:35:33 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						I just went to a seminar at Victoria University in which the speakers Jonathan Boston and Judy Lawrence considered how to legislate and pay for the amelioration of climate change. It is expensive to rehouse people and build new infrastructure. Do we want an EQC or ACC model or something…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2017 15:23:36 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>levels of ozone-depleting chemicals dropping; not quite the same thing! But yes, a welcome long-term development.</q></p><p>Indeed.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2017 13:52:36 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>How is the air up there?</strong><br /><a href="https://www.space.com/17683-earth-atmosphere.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.space.com/17683-earth-atmosphere.html</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2017 13:45:11 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><a href="https://earth.nullschool.net/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://earth.nullschool.net/</a></p><p>good realtime overview of all the processes.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2017 13:16:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>linger</title>
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						<q>ozone levels dropping</q>levels of <em>ozone-depleting chemicals</em> dropping; not <em>quite</em> the same thing! But yes, a welcome long-term development.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2017 13:15:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>How are the government going to make this happen, though?</p><p>Are they going to persuade/mandate Wellington Region Council to retain the trolleybus network?</p><p>How are they going to get the power industry to reverse their decision to <a href="http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/302509/huntly-power-plants-to-stay-open-until-2022" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">keep Huntly open</a> until 2022?</p><p>How are they going to stop Auckland (and…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2017 13:14:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Millar</title>
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						<p><q>Pacific peoples who culturally define themselves through their land, are already beginning to lose that land.</q><br />A few weeks ago I was in Fiji with a colleague, running a workshop at <a href="https://creatingfutures.org.au/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Creating Futures</a>, a conference on Pasifika mental health issues. Our workshop was on post-disaster cultural heritage archiving and communication,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2017 13:01:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Carol Stewart</title>
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						<p><q>Some good news tucked away about ozone levels dropping :)</q></p><p>That was due to swift and concerted global action in the form of the Montreal protocol. It was also a much simpler problem (than AGW) to solve in that it was largely a matter of product substitution.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2017 12:54:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Some good news tucked away about ozone levels dropping :)</q></p><p>Hell yes. The climate challenge is far greater, but it shows that things can be done.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2017 12:49:22 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jason Kemp</title>
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						<p>I wonder if the graphic might be useful. </p><p>PDF link below<br /><a href="http://www.mfe.govt.nz/sites/default/files/media/Environmental%20reporting/our-atmosphere-and-climate-2017-at-a-glance-poster.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">our-atmosphere-and-climate-2017-at-a-glance-poster.pdf</a></p><p>Some good news tucked away about ozone levels dropping :)</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2017 12:32:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Public Address</title>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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