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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						<blockquote><p>At the time I was glad to see the end of Radio With Pictures, which had become Radio With Pictures For People Stuck In An Early-'80s Timewarp.</p></blockquote><p>Oh, Robyn! Nothing wrong with the early 80's. Finest time in my life, really, I think. So many good bands. I was in…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 09:26:53 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>David Swift</title>
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						<p>just caught up with this thread after getting back to the UK after five weeks at home in NZ in Feb/March</p><p>Saw The Clean's Auckland gig on March 17: first time I had seen them since the In-A-Live recording in London in, uh, 1989 I believe.</p><p>Fabulous. New stuff as…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 05:19:50 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Had a wee issue with eMusic and Rhapsody this week over pirated music on their servers....coming out of Australia, ripped off vinyl without my knowledge. EMusic were proactive and fantastic..it came straight off as soon as there was a sniff of a problem.</p><p>Rhapsody (Real) (who use DRM) showed little…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 12:51:18 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<p>Had a wee issue with eMusic and Rhapsody this week over pirated music on their servers....coming out of Australia, ripped off vinyl without my knowledge. EMusic were proactive and fantastic..it came straight off as soon as there was a sniff of a problem. </p><p>Rhapsody (Real) (who use DRM) showed little…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 12:41:45 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>In Love With These Times is such a cool song.</p><p>In fact, if there are any F Nun people reading this is there any chance of the Nelsh Bailter Space ep being released on cd or such like?</p><p>I know Matador released it a long time ago with Tanker as…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 10:52:27 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>tillakaratne</title>
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						As far as I can tell The Clean are only playing one show in Dunedin at the fairly dull sounding Heritage gig &ndash; Resound. It is being held at the Regent theatre, where people are able to sit down quietly (to The Clean &ndash; what the ...?) and watch 10…
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				<title>Bruce Wurr</title>
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						<p>Wish I was there.....seen them more than a few times, including a very sweaty gluepot where I attracted very bruised shins from being against the stage and they gleamed through Diamond Shine.</p><p>In Love With These Times is such a cool song.</p><p>In fact, if there are any F Nun…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 23:36:12 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Funny too how sometimes more ppl show up for a 'reunion' tour than did the first time round.</p></blockquote><p>ain't that the truth..The Newmatics for example pulled far more people to the sold out Kings Arms than they ever did in eighty whatever. Tom Sampson's "If we were still as skinny…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 14:02:13 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Nobody Important</title>
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						<blockquote><p>innit cool how damn good bands in their 40s can sound?</p></blockquote><p>Yeah, and according  to Donny Osmond on Niteline the other night The Osmonds may reform this year for some 'special' shows.  Can't blame 'em I s'pose.</p><p>but seriously ... I did a double take seeing Ron Asheton from The…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 13:43:03 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Andrew Dubber</title>
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						Export, damn you all. Export!
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				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 01:47:15 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>nzMM</title>
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						FIrst time for me to see the Clean and i was stoked!  Good to see a nice big (but not packed) crowd of young and old.  It was a really great night, had a smile on my face the whole time.  Clean tunes continue to rock even in the 21st…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 22:32:57 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Ackroyd</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Do I not recall a super superb Clean gig at the old Bodega around 1999/2000?</p></blockquote><p>That <strong>might</strong> have been the Bats Bodge gig I remember from around then. (Although in my memory that was around 1997?)</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:31:48 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Tierney, along with one Robert Rakete and one Larnie Gifford, actually presented the truly horrific "CV" in early '89.</p></blockquote><p>Hey, there was nothing wrong with CV. I was 14 and it introduced me to De La Soul, which changed my life for the better.</p><p>At the time I was glad…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:13:18 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Caron Copek</title>
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						<p>Now, is my memory in old(er) age failing me?  Do I not recall a super superb Clean gig at the old Bodega around 1999/2000? Must have been before mid 2000 as I had moved country by that time.  <br />I was at Studio in Ak on Saturday night. Yes Russell, that…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:28:06 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Grant McDougall</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Sometime later Mark Tierney presented the live video of 'Diamond Shine' on the "annoyingly catchy" RWP music show.</p></blockquote><p>'Diamond Shine' was on RWP in '90, but presented by Dick (now Richard) Driver.</p><p>Tierney, along with one Robert Rakete and one Larnie Gifford, actually presented the truly <em>horrific</em> "CV" in early…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:11:51 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Richard Wain</title>
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						<p>saw The Clean last night at Leigh Sawmill Cafe (an hour or so north of Aukilani) &ndash; something I've been looking forward to for months, had dinner and accomodation there booked long ago.</p><p>magic.</p><p>high point possibly David Kilgour attempting to escape the never-ending encore by crawling under the piano…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 16:31:32 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Nais</title>
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						<p>Re getting old....</p><p>Paul: wait til your kid plans to go to Otago after 7th form this and is wandering the web checking out the hostels down there. He rejects your old hostel cos there's no DSL in the bedrooms &ndash; ROFL</p><p>But hey, age is purely a state of…</p>
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				<title>Kris W</title>
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						<p>The first and last time I saw them was at Orientation late 80's/early 90's. I was young, they were pulsing in the background, there was a beer-blur in the foreground. </p><p>Sometime later Mark Tierney presented the live video of 'Diamond Shine' on the "annoyingly catchy" RWP music show. I was…</p>
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				<title>Tom Ackroyd</title>
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						<blockquote><p>How would it sound to them? How does a McCahon look to someone who's never seen one?</p></blockquote><p>I'm not from these parts and The Clean weren't part of my musical history. Coming to them late, and learning of their history second-hand, makes me yearn for a past I never had.…</p>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						Actually the thing that really brought home the "I'm getting old meme" was last week when I discovered I have litterally become history .... at lunch time I got excited texts from my son who had been watching video from the '81 tour and wanted to when and where I'd…
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						I'm getting old too... but innit cool how damn good bands in their 40s can sound? People who've been playing for 20 or thirty years- often together. Musicianship informed by- dunno, life, and lots and lots of music. Band-mates who just fall into a song like it's home- so comfortable…
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						sigh, I am getting old .... I guess they're not upstairs at the Cook any more either are they
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				<title>Public Address</title>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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