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				<title>Neil Morrison</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The importance abouit addressing lies told about us is to address lies we tell about ourselves.</p></blockquote><p>yeah, but have some sympathy for Al Gore. In the Circus of Spoilt Brats Going off the Rails his son does it in a Prius. Can't help his presidential ambitions. I prefer the High…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 18:26:09 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Michael  Fitzgerald</title>
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						<p>Neil </p><p>The importance abouit addressing lies told about us is to address lies we tell about ourselves.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 14:00:02 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Although I guess they could have David Slick, Keith Thing, Seeming Mock and Jesus Christie ...</p></blockquote><p>Very good!</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote>Your latter comment makes me wonder how you would feel if someone usurped your blog; started one called &mdash; say &mdash; Public Redress but insisted it was not about politics, it was about citizens being able to express their dissatisfaction with whatever is bugging them. (yeh yeh, I know: you're…</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 11:23:55 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>heh heh &ndash; good for you (I mean that). I consider myself fairly liberal, except when it comes to business/money. At which point I become very defensive of my stash. (I was sending emails to parents &amp; friends warning against Bridgecorp 12 months ago)</p></blockquote><p>I didn't bother kicking up a fuss…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 11:03:13 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>InternationalObserver</title>
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						<p><em>I honestly can't see why I'd care.</em></p><p>heh heh &ndash; good for you (I mean that).  I consider myself fairly liberal, except when it comes to business/money. At which point I become very defensive of my stash. (I was sending emails to parents &amp; friends warning against Bridgecorp 12 months ago)…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 10:51:00 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p>"I honestly can't see why I'd care."</p><p>What if their pageads were all for Starbucks?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 10:46:36 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote>This is why McD's jump on anyone trying to use the name McDonald. A Trademark is only as good as the funds you have to protect it, which is why trademark lawyers love it. Any battle is usually won by the one with the deepest pockets because the litigation lasts…</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 09:13:44 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Neil Morrison</title>
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						<blockquote><p>While arguing about bare faced lies let's remeber Gore lied about us.</p></blockquote><p>I'm not taken by Save The Planet Man's latest role as The Reluctant Bride but it's bit harsh to call over-heated rhetoric a lie.</p><p>But this is funny &ndash; [[http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2118657,00.html|Al Gore's son caught doing 100mph in hybrid car…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 08:31:00 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Other points in Trelise's favour were that Tamsin Cooper was 'only' her married name and the marriage didn't last long</p></blockquote><p>Hum... I know I'm setting myself up for a beating here, but I wonder what high-profile divorcees who kept using their 'married' surnames like Cath Tizard, Roseanne Meo, Pam Corkery,…</p>
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				<title>InternationalObserver</title>
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						<blockquote>The reporter, Juliet McVeigh I think, spent the whole report referring to Tamsin as Tasmin, despite frequent shots of the brand showing the correct spelling, even alongside the footer graphic showing her name incorrectly spelled Tasmin. It was hysterical</blockquote>Thank you Nick &ndash; I thought I was going mad! I posted…
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				<title>Michael  Fitzgerald</title>
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						<p>While arguing about bare faced lies let's remeber Gore lied about us.<br />The NZ will take in the population of Tuvalu and other threatened pacific nations. Na ah.</p><p>NZ is clean &amp; green, right? 100% Pure, right?<br />Our National State of the Environment report is 10years over due.<br />AKL water comes…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 20:58:01 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p><em>These people really are crazy.</em></p><p>By "these people", I'm assuming you're referring to people with whom you disagree. Nice. Although I might disagree with you, I'd never suggest you deserve to be put in a straitjacket.</p></blockquote><p>No, I'm referring to people prepared to advance an argument by entirely fabricating -…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 20:22:01 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Nick Bryant</title>
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						What I'd like to know is did Trelise get in the ear of One News?  Not seriously, of course, but given last night's report you could be forgiven for thinking as much.  The reporter, Juliet McVeigh I think, spent the whole report referring to Tamsin as Tasmin, despite frequent shots…
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote>The public needed some educatin', at least if I'm anything to go by. Despite being relatively interested in politics, and in the age-group which benefits from the newly-reduced health care fees, I had no idea about this policy. [...] I think some measure of direct communication was appropriate ... but…</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 16:05:00 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>ron</title>
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						<p><em>These people really are crazy.</em></p><p>By "these people", I'm assuming you're referring to people with whom you disagree. Nice. Although I might disagree with you, I'd never suggest you deserve to be put in a straitjacket.</p>
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				<title>Terence Wood</title>
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						<p>Craig,</p><p>I'm with you: while I may occasionally have the urge to hug posters of Helen Clark, I'm real keen to leave the doctors with fewer rather than more pills and (grimace) blood tests...</p>
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				<title>dc_red</title>
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						<p>I'm in two minds:</p><p>1/ Yes, it probably will remind some of "the whole fiasco", and yes it clearly entangled "the government" and "the labour party" &ndash; two institutions which aren't synonymous ... yet ;-)</p><p>but...</p><p>2/ The public needed some educatin', at least if I'm anything to go by.…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Strategists 1 &amp; 2 together: "Pure Genius"</p></blockquote><p>Brilliant. I presume someone will be laughing darkly on the ninth floor. But not too loud in case herself should hear ...</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						On ya, Terence.  If I started hugging posters in my GP's waiting room, it would all end in tears (I suspect she was a Victorian nanny in a previous life), a round blood test and some new pills in very short order. :)
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				<title>Terence Wood</title>
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						Having said all that, speaking as someone who lives on an NGO sized salary and suffers from a chronic disease, when I went to the doctors yesterday and found my bill halved I was sorely tempted to hug the poster of Helen Clark they had hanging in the waiting room*…
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				<title>Terence Wood</title>
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						<p><strong>[Deep Inside the Labour Party Strategy Building]</strong></p><p>Strategist 1: "...cheaper health care, free child care, incentivised savings &ndash; these are all good policies but...the trouble is...the public might realise. And then we might end up, like, popular again."</p><p>Strategist 2: "hhhmmmm...indeed...and that wouldn't do"</p><p>Strategists 1 &amp; 2 together: "hhhhhhhhmmmmmm"</p><p>Strategist…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Hurrr...hurrr... he said "pubic"...</p></blockquote><p>Oh, and it always happens when you're stuck for the morning at a conference ....</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Which is where it gets a bit weird, because the leaders' fund is there to help parties communicate policy to the public.  But the auditor-general has drawn the lines so tightly that it's hard to tell what counts as electioneering.</p></blockquote><p>Which is exactly the line from politicians that gets zero…</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						Craig, I've found that glossy brochures are excellent for cleaning paint brushes. Something about the extra toughness. But most junk mail goes straight into the compost, sequestering all that carbon and giving me free fertilizer. The strangest thing is that the Green party ones break down the slowest...can't explain that…
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				<title>Peter Martin</title>
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						<p>I have yet to receive the Labour pamphlet. I did get a nice glossy one from the Progressive Party the other day though.The 'winter' edition.</p><p>At the bottom right on the front page is a wee crest of the House of Representatives...</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The legislation only lasts till the end of this year, whereupon it's supposed to be replaced with a clearer set of rules, in time for the election.</p></blockquote><p>I wonder if that would include something along the lines of anti-spam legislation, where all parties and politicians have to maintain (and follow)…</p>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Robyn.... 100 Guineas Cup actually :)</p></blockquote><p>According to Wikipedia (which is slowly taking the place of my long-term memory):</p><blockquote><p>It was originally known by the Squadron as the “Royal Yacht Squadron Cup” or the “RYS Cup for One Hundred Sovereigns”. The Cup subsequently became known as the “One Hundred Guinea(s)…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Evan Yates</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Now, I happen to think these are all good things, and I would expect any government to present them to the pubic as such.</p></blockquote><p>Hurrr...hurrr... he said "pubic"...</p><p>I think "present them to the pubic" could be interpreted as "given the arse" or told to "suck me" (in the prejorative…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I also wonder, surely a sensible way around this is to ban any party identifiers on anything with the H.O.R. crest.</p></blockquote><p>Which is where it gets a bit weird, because the leaders' fund is there to help parties communicate policy to the public. But the auditor-general has drawn the lines…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Of course, if the Nats win the next election Labour will be hoist with it's own petard &mdash; one can just imagine the liberties the Nats will take exploiting Labour's validating legislation, given the tricks they pulled with the Exclusive Brethren.</p></blockquote><p>The legislation only lasts till the end of this…</p>
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				<title>Steve Reeves</title>
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						rodgerd: sorry---not "rogerd"!!
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				<title>Steve Reeves</title>
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						rogerd: yes, I have friends and colleagues in that position too---our group can run as it is (with two research fellows) for $250,000 p.a. very comfortably---but we have had funding stopped from October---put that against $10 million dollars "to keep the team together for four years" (Morning Report this morning)---what…
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But the reality is that Hillary has a double digit lead over her closest rival which for some reason happens to really annoy most white male liberal middle class American punidts.</p></blockquote><p>I think the failure of the American primary system is that it chooses the person most popular (most popular…</p>
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				<title>Eric Olthwaite</title>
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						<p><em>But I presume I wasn't the only one who looked at the leaflet, with Labour's branding all over it &mdash; and a small House of Representatives crest to make it clear that we're paying for it &mdash; and wondered, um, is this legal these days?</em></p><p>No, I wondered as well.…</p>
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				<title>Grant Robertson</title>
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						just back from the States and every Democrat person I spoke to felt that there was a strong chance of Gore entering the race.  The feeling is that Hilary is likely to shake off Obama, but that when it comes down to it most Dems just don't sthink she will…
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				<title>Jonty</title>
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						Of course, if the Nats win the next election Labour will be hoist with it's own petard &mdash; one can just imagine the liberties the Nats will take exploiting Labour's validating legislation, given the tricks they pulled with the Exclusive Brethren.
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				<title>FletcherB</title>
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						<p>Robyn.... 100 Guineas Cup actually  :)</p><p>Also, was I the only one completely miffed at One News for repeatedly misnaming one of the Cooper's involved in the fashion story?</p><p>Despite showing repeated footage of the (correctly spelled) label (ie. Tamsin Cooper)..... they repeatedly said Tasmin out loud, and captions on…</p>
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				<title>Neil Morrison</title>
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						<blockquote><p>polls show again, that Al Gore would sweep the Democratic nomination if he chose to run</p></blockquote><p>people always prefer what they can't have. But what the polls also show is that Hillary has 37% and Gore would win against her but with only 32% of Dem voters. Not quite so…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						Then again, I've got to be fair and point out Clark and the Labour Party aren't electioneering quite as blatantly as their Australian state and federal counterparts.  The Better Half and I were in Sydney just as the NSW state election campaign was kicking into high gear, and I'm sure…
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<p>Nic, I assume you're in the States and not Wellington. I'm not really surprised. America isn't involved this time around, why would they broadcast it? My ESPN feedreader has the occasional piece but that's about it.</p><p>But even when America is in the cup, the racing is during baseball season…</p>
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				<title>Dave Patrick</title>
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						The one doctor who is reducing his fees (according to the pamphlet we received which said "doctor's fees reduced") is going to be a busy boy..... (yes, apostrophe pedantry ahoy!)
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I can't believe they've done this. A leaflet from the government would have hit the mark; it would hardly have been a mystery who was in charge. But a leaflet slathered in red with Labour's own website address on it? Come on.</p></blockquote><p>Well, Russell, I can &mdash; because let's face…</p>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Here's a question: Why is it called the americas cup, when there is NO coverage of it here.</p></blockquote><p>It's named after the first boat to win it, which was called <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America_%28yacht%29" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">America</a>.</p><p>That's why it's called the America's Cup, and why people are confused by that apostrophe and desperately want to…</p>
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				<title>Grant McDougall</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Fox News declared that Gore "hasn’t stopped believing he can get special favors for being a political figure" (ie: Gore blagged a copy of the Sopranos finale because he was going to be on a long-haul flight when it aired);</p></blockquote><p>Whereas Bush dishing out "special favors" to Scooter Libby is…</p>
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						<p>Surely, we didn't "lose" it, we failed to win it.</p><p>Interesting what you say there Nic, a friend of mine was in San Diego during an earlier America's cup regatta, she said apart from a few hundred kiwis on the waterfront, the city appeared completely oblivious to the colossal struggle…</p>
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						<p>Yes, "we" lost it, but we are immediately pumping $10 million of our money into it.</p><p>When I think that I know research scientists who have been laid off their jobs last Christmas because of a million dollar shortfall in funding, it makes me laugh about Labour's commitment to the…</p>
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				<title>nic.wise</title>
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						<p>So, we "lost" that cup thing (thanks, bTW, for not reporting on it :) )</p><p>Here's a question: Why is it called the americas cup, when there is NO coverage of it here. Zero. Zip. Nada. Nothing. Not even on the sport channels!</p>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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