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				<title>mark taslov</title>
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						So would these come under the ASA or the BSA?
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				<title>mark taslov</title>
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						<p><q>But this is Little’s view, and it seems an honestly held one, and so we know what we have to do convince him of to change his mind</q></p><p>I agree Tom,  as I see it, any legislation that might impact how confident patients might feel about openly discussing all aspects…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2016 17:14:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>what agenda does our “secular” government-owned national broadcaster have in disseminating Christian doctrine</q></p><p>They have been run as a commercial broadcaster for many years, so if any organisation showers them with cash they will broadcast pretty much anything. Even Density Church at one stage.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2016 19:28:48 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>Perhaps tauiwi would have been clearer</q></p><p>to me, but fair point in general</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2016 19:26:49 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>mark taslov</title>
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						Ruefully taking a string from a warden’s bow; I’m prepared to accept that you <strong>had</strong> (past perfect tense) never <strong>seen</strong> welsh or german written without caps, I likewise had not seen them written without caps <strong>until</strong> I <strong>encountered</strong> (simple past ) them in the dictionary <strong>while</strong> I <strong>was writing</strong> (past…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2016 15:36:50 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						I for one have never seen welsh or german written without caps.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2016 09:05:40 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>mark taslov</title>
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						<p><q>how awesome is it to be a pakeha in Aotearoa New Zealand?</p><p>Even better to be Pakeha. Will leave macron bonus for others but any ethnicity deserves Caps.</q></p><p>I didn’t have the energy at the time, but to be clear, pakeha is as intended; used in a multicultural rather than…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2016 00:08:57 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>linger</title>
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						Just another way of  getting high?
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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						I don't think I could ever ingest enough THC to make me take up nude rock-climbing...
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				<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2016 11:21:50 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>Mike Yardley (Chchch's own Mike Hosking clone) weighs in with a highly emotive and ham-fisted rant against legalisation...</q><br />Yardley generally manages to sing from the same hymnal as the <em>Herald</em>'s <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=11623347" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">John Roughan</a>. A while back their opinion pieces  &ndash; talking up e-cigarettes, spruiking offshore oil exploration &ndash; appeared so tightly synched…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2016 19:40:39 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Which is what “decriminalisation” advocates wish for here with regards for cannabis.</q></p><p>Sorta. I certainly wouldn’t reject decriminalisation – which means a bunch of different things anyway – as an incremental step. I frequently come back to civil unions > marriage equality as a comparison.</p><p>The intriguing thing is that…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2016 19:33:35 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q> Apart from the nonsensical Yardley rave, they also have a self-penned “Stuff Nation” (read amateur) piece today from a self-publicising US narcotics cop, telling kiwis that in his opinion, changing the law here would be a grave mistake and the sky will immediately fall.</q></p><p>Graves is basically channelling pro-prohibition campaigner…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2016 19:25:33 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Alfie</title>
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						While it's great that public opinion is shifting rapidly, Fairfax seems to have made the decision to sit on the wrong side of this debate. Apart from the nonsensical Yardley rave, they also have a <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/83352662/top-us-detective-keith-graves-on-what-nz-can-learn-from-us-history-of-cannabis-decriminalisation" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">self-penned</a> “Stuff Nation” (read <em>amateur</em>) piece today from a <a href="https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=%22keith+graves%22+narcotics" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">self-publicising</a> US narcotics cop, telling kiwis…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2016 16:42:16 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>Cannib annoyed...</strong><br />Mike Yardley (Chchch's own Mike Hosking clone) weighs in with a highly emotive and ham-fisted rant against legalisation in <em>The Press</em> &ndash; comments were turned off about 2 hours after the article was posted &ndash; hardly fair...<br />see:<br /><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/opinion/83410482/mike-yardley-legalising-cannabis-not-in-the-public-interest" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/opinion/83410482/mike-yardley-legalising-cannabis-not-in-the-public-interest</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2016 13:58:20 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Worik Stanton</title>
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						__I recently watched the Ken Burns documentary miniseries on Prohibition. What was very interesting about it was all the unintended consequences of those laws and how that played out. Various commentators in that series may have overstated their views but the criminalisation of alcohol was said to have created many…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2016 14:23:44 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>He’s changed, man</q></p><p>He's openly in favour of decriminalization?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2016 12:16:38 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>But this is Little's view, and it seems an honestly held one, and so we know what we have to do convince him of to change his mind. Key is just a lying opportunist who can't sleep straight in bed at night.</q></p><p>What would Key and others like Peter Dunne…</p>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<p><q>Andrew Little:</p><p>There are negative health effects for young people, young brains young minds, now the brain is still developing until the early twenties, and this is not, greater liberalisation of cannabis is not going to help when it comes to potential health effects there.</q></p><p>I happen to think Andrew…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2016 13:31:13 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Shane Le Brun</title>
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						<p>Nick smith is in the "too much harm I have seen due to cannabis" blah blah blah..  He kinda supports Pharma products, but he argues if Cannabis is so good, why are there not more products?   </p><p>The Irony is, we can grow for trials in NZ,  but once those trials…</p>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p>Further proof that "not our problem" is a feature and not a bug for the usual suspects:</p><p><a href="http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/insight/audio/201811741/insight-labour-hire-companies-exploitation-or-opportunity" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">RNZ Insight: Labour-Hire Companies &ndash; Exploitation or Opportunity?</a></p><p>__Workplace Relations Minister Michael Woodhouse declined Insight's request for an interview about labour-hire companies.</p><p>A spokesperson from his office said the minister felt it wasn't…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2016 01:51:17 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>mark taslov</title>
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						TLDR: The doubloons
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						<p>Thanks for your understanding Sacha.</p><p>So venturing back to Graeme’s question from another angle. Two key differences between the official endorsement of discretionary enforcement of the smacking law and the official endorsement of discretionary enforcement of cannabis use and possession laws are that firstly, one instance grants police the opportunity…</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>how awesome is it to be a pakeha in Aotearoa New Zealand?</q></p><p>Even better to be Pakeha. Will leave macron bonus for others but any ethnicity deserves Caps.</p>
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						<p><q>Labour and its leader need to sit down and listen to some public health people.</q><br />yep</p>
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				<title>Martin Brown</title>
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						Much as I enjoy this forum, I am missing RNZ's comments thread. On this and many other issues.  I can't imagine they were attracting so many trolls it was impossible to manage. Perhaps just couldn't afford the salary of a part-time moderator.
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				<title>mark taslov</title>
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						<p><q> I thought Little’s response on Morning Report was perfectly coherent. </q></p><p>I guess my question would be, how coherent can support of an incoherent legislative approach truly be? The first issue with Mr Little’s position is that as Ian pointed out over the page:</p><p><q>Key doesn’t get to govern based on…</q></p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<q>I hope so, in this case, but I’m not optimistic. It’s been a hostage to nonsense and arbitrariness since forever. I can fully see people high up making it their only personal contribution, ever, to have frustrated the progress of cannabis reform. Not just high up, but particularly importantly, in…</q>
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				<title>mark taslov</title>
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						<p><q>“no-one wants a business selling X at the end of their street”</q></p><p>One needn’t step too far out onto a limb to posit that the majority support shown for growing small amounts for personal use is in part fueled by people wanting that kiwi mainstay – the tinny house –…</p>
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				<title>bob daktari</title>
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						<p>it seems to me outside of the law there has been massive incremental change... the poll reflects that &ndash; drugs are bad, m'kay... but pot not so bad, m'kay</p><p>where there has been no change is from our politicians, if anything since Nandor left office and the whole synthetic cannabis…</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>They abandon positions based on polling, not reason.</q></p><p>I hope so, in this case, but I'm not optimistic. It's been a hostage to nonsense and arbitrariness since forever. I can fully see people high up making it their only personal contribution, ever, to have frustrated the progress of cannabis reform.…</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						They abandon positions based on polling, not reason.
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						<p><q> But positions that aren’t based on evidential or philosophical foundations are easier to abandon than considered positions.</q></p><p>I'm not sure if that is true. I'd have thought the opposite. I'd <em>like</em> it to be true, but on evidential grounds (:-)) I believe it to be false. It's much, much harder…</p>
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				<title>Craig Young</title>
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				<title>Craig Young</title>
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						And to be frank, sometimes these things have to happen in an incremental manner. Surely the important thing is to have medicinal cannabis derivatives decriminalised first and then worry about recreational cannabis later? That appears to be what happened in the United States.
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						I thought Little's response on Morning Report was perfectly coherent. He is opposed to decriminalization and he stated his position as to why honestly. You may not agree with him, but his opinion is rooted in a reasonable view that &ndash; unlike Key &ndash; is honestly held.
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						<p><q>we’d need shops to sell it but no one wants a tinny house at the end of their street</q></p><p>In that context, the list of "no-one wants a business selling X at the end of their street" has a lot of values of X, from aeroplanes, buses and coal to…</p>
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				<title>mark taslov</title>
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						To be fair though Sacha, even consistent messaging wouldn’t be a bad start, Mr Key by contrast appears entirely lost in the shop. the message being sent by his Government to teenagers and the wider community in this neck of the woods is that the National Party simply don’t care.…
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						<p><q>it’s frustrating that Labour can’t manage a more coherent or useful stance</q></p><p>Broadly boggling how any political party came to accept consistent messaging as a 'nice to have' rather than a core competency.</p>
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				<title>william blake</title>
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						<p><a href="http://www.newshub.co.nz/opinion/patrick-gower/john-key-and-his-vineyard-investments-2010052616" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.newshub.co.nz/opinion/patrick-gower/john-key-and-his-vineyard-investments-2010052616</a></p><p>J.K's drug of choice, unlike cannabis, is actually physically addictive.</p>
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						<p><q>In terms of our elected representatives, limiting our criticisms to John Key seems parochially partisan given the cowardice and share ineptness shown by our would-be leaders across the spectrum – for a couple of days last week I was a prospective Labour voter.</q></p><p>Key was the one interviewed all over…</p>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						<p><q>Labour's stance of the past week only has one face palming</q><br />I sometimes feel Little is the kind of guy who would call the bomb-squad to blow up his own birthday presents.</p>
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				<title>mark taslov</title>
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						<p><q>I believe the smoke free environments law is enforced by the Ministry of Health primarily, rather than police, and applies to smoking anything in a public premise.</q></p><p>It’s by the by, I presented the possibility of making our own centre smoke free in anticipation of any suggestion that doing so…</p>
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						<p>I believe the smoke free environments law is enforced by the Ministry of Health primarily, rather than police, and applies to smoking anything in a public premise.</p><p>But maybe the elders of your town prefer the challenged to be nicely stoned inside the community centre than wandering the streets annoying…</p>
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						<q>Graeme Edgeler put it to me on Twitter this morning that Key was applauded for emphasising that the police would apply their discretion when the Section 59 “reasonable force” defence for child discipline was removed – so why scorn him for saying the same about drug law? And why is…</q>
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				<title>Cameron Price</title>
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						<p>Data collection is incredibly poor in this area, so you're right that those two specific decimal points are not an exact representation of what is happening. Here's where I got those numbers:</p><p>The Ministry of Health reports that 400,000 New Zealanders used cannabis in the past year. Stats NZ put…</p>
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						Do you happen to know how Stats and MoJ measure or estimate the number of cannabis users to the point that such specific numbers can be derived to two decimal places of a percentage point?
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						Also, what message does he think Parliament sends about alcohol?
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						<p>This from Stats NZ: Last year, fewer than 0.13% of cannabis users were convicted for possession and/or use as their most serious offence.</p><p>This from Ministry of Justice: Last year, 0.28% of cannabis users were convicted for possession and/or use as their most serious offence.</p><p>If he's worried about sending…</p>
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				<title>bob daktari</title>
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						<p><q>The interesting thing about the poll is that it was commissioned by the Drug Foundation from Curia Research</q></p><p>I read that as being quite clever &ndash; how better to get the govt looking at drug policy or at least the results of a poll like this than using their preferred…</p>
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						I recently watched the Ken Burns documentary miniseries on Prohibition. What was very interesting about it was all the unintended consequences of those laws and how that played out. Various commentators in that series may have overstated their views but the criminalisation of alcohol was said to have created many…
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				<title>Stephen R</title>
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						<p>When there are laws that most people are breaking, but the police let slide unless they're upset with you for some other reason, then that gives the police an enormous amount of potential for influencing behaviour that isn't illegal.</p><p>If you know the police disapprove of something legal, and if…</p>
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						<q>Well, firstly, he doesn't know that. Secondly, it's not true – a number of people convicted as a result of last summer's expensive but newsworthy cannabis recovery operation identified themselves as medical cannabis users.  And thirdly, a leader who has just hailed the role of Parliament shouldn't be in the…</q>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p>I got the impression that Key was espousing his personal position, or that of the caucus coterie, which is a very small sample and not (as you point out) in line with the wishes of the people of the country, including a compelling number of National voters.<br />Key doesn't get…</p>
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				<title>Moz</title>
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						<p><q> the more they policed, the more they could claim harm. It was absurd.</q></p><p>It seems apt to ask "what were they smoking"? That's actually very creative in a perverse sort of way.</p><p>That would be useful as an example of perverse incentives in public policy.</p><p>Albeit I originally meant "policing…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>No argument there. I’m not suggesting that cannabis is harmless, just that if you ranked drugs by harm it wouldn’t be at the top.</q></p><p>Ah, gotcha.</p><p><q>Although if you include the harm from making it illegal and policing it, that pushes it much higher (but somehow the legal side of…</q></p>
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						<p><q>they’re all easier to address when the law isn’t in the way. Māori aren’t only more likely to be arrested and prosecuted for cannabis possession, they’re also markedly less likely to get the help they need.</q></p><p>No argument there. I'm not suggesting that cannabis is harmless, just that if you…</p>
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						<p><q>I don't think anyone's suggesting compulsion</q></p><p>My point is more that from a "we should ban smoking" perspective, making it legal to smoke something new doesn't make sense.</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>The usual consumer protections should apply, just as they do to alcohol and tobacco. But any harm reduction stuff should start with the drugs of most harm.</q></p><p>Well, there are harms from cannabis – but they’re all easier to address when the law isn’t in the way. Māori aren’t only…</p>
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						<p><q>Some supporters are old school anti-smokers who wouldn’t smoke anything if their life depended on it</q></p><p>I don't think anyone's suggesting compulsion (although maybe if the government thought that it could substitute weed for medical services, it'd legalise it in a flash).</p>
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						<p>I'm amused by the very small difference between pain relief and pain relief with terminal illness &ndash; the shift is barely detectable and it's entirely between decriminalise and legalise.</p><p>I think you're also seeing an issue that divides The Greens. Some supporters are old school anti-smokers who wouldn't smoke anything…</p>
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						<p><q>I suppose it’s possible that in taking any action National could risk losing voters, but it’s hard to see where they’d go</q></p><p>Maybe the Conservatives, whose only distinguishing feature from National (in my view) seems to be a focus on morality, but if they got over 5% that would not…</p>
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						Since National was first elected, the PM has been extremely good at tracking opinion in the electorate and making sure that the Government never gets too far behind or ahead of it.  Informed, as you point out, by the formidable skills of Mr Farrar & co.  On the rare occasion the…
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						<p>The Drug Foundation's Ross Bell <a href="https://www.drugfoundation.org.nz/media/majority-back-cannabis-law-change" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">on the politics of the the poll</a>.</p><p><q>“It was an old political truth that any changes to drug law was a poisoned chalice, but this poll well and truly busts that myth. There’s a message here for politicians: they no longer need to fear talking…</q></p>
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						Meanwhile, Key used mostly the same lines in this morning's interviews with <a href="http://www.newshub.co.nz/tvshows/paulhenry/legal-weed-sends-the-wrong-message---key-2016081507#axzz4HLvE878D" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Paul Henry</a> and <a href="http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/national/poll-shows-strong-support-for-legalising-cannabis/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Mike Hosking</a>.
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						Here’s the poll result graphic.
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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