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				<title>Christiaan</title>
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						Heh, thanks Russell, the update to this post has brightened my week considerably.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:15:41 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I've been meaning to ask this for a while ... why does Media7 almost always start early?</p></blockquote><p>Well, earlier than the EPG used by both Sky and Freeview PVRs, yes. And I don't know why.</p><p>It has been noted. We get around it by recording the news bulletin beforehand.</p><p>I'll…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 07:58:31 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<blockquote><p>This week's Media7 takes two themes.</p></blockquote><p>I've been meaning to ask this for a while ... why does Media7 almost always start early? For the last couple of months, my FreeVo (which starts recording 2-3 minutes before the appointed time) has missed the beginning. Pretty much every week for the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 07:44:49 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>HORansome</title>
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						I don't know art, but I do know what I like... and the internet is made up of 80% of it?
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				<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 19:34:27 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Thanks. I am so naive about some of these things. Are you allowed to say erotic or is it erratic?</p></blockquote><p>It's allowed to be erotic, but only if it's art.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:26:02 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>recordari</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Thanks. I am so naive about some of these things. Are you allowed to say erotic or is it erratic?</p></blockquote><p>Zing. </p><p><em>Etoric</em> maybe?  (Like rhetoric, only a little bit dirty).</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:52:09 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						And on the topic of thinking of the children, a top OECD expert on social policy has <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10650823" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">attacked NZ's child poverty levels</a> &ndash; our rate of children living in poverty is 15%, against an OECD average of 12% &ndash; and said that there needs to be a coordinated review of the…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:20:11 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						Thanks. I am so naive about some of these things. Are you allowed to say <em>erotic</em> or is it <em>erratic</em>?
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				<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:55:01 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>JackElder</title>
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						<blockquote><p>George: Is this deliberate? Or are you suggesting we are pron to porn?</p></blockquote><p>Probably deliberate &ndash; that's a standard misspelling (to get around keyword filters for the string 'porn', funnily enough). Alternate variant is the l33t variant, 'pr0n'.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:49:14 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						Sorry, it's an ironic habit, derived from speaking too much on the internets.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:48:33 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And then of course, pronography is already illegal in much of the country</p></blockquote><p>George: Is this deliberate?  Or are you suggesting we are pron to porn?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:36:22 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<p>And then of course, pronography is already illegal in much of the country if you're black.</p><p>The Economist <a href="http://www.economist.com/node/16315656" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">tracks the "Intervention"</a>, which will soon spread to all residents of the NT receiving state assistance. Can't have discrimination, can we?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:22:13 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<p>...Australia is now <a href="http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/opinion/blogs/blunt-instrument/they-may-check-our-luggage-but-theyll-never-take-our-porn/20100609-xwal.html?rand=1276115644266" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">checking at the border for pron</a>. </p><p>It's hard to understate how conservative Rudd is. He may not have enough influence to swing Australia in directions it doesn't want to go, but his group seem to be trying.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:06:33 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						I read somewhere (it may have been here) a most sensible solution for solving the BP oil leak:  plug it with the collected works of Ayn Rand.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:25:04 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p>For further enlightenment...</p><p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/901723.stm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Paediatrician attacks 'ignorant' vandals</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:20:55 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>bmk</title>
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						Ok, I didn't realise that sorry.  It brought a chuckle to my morning thinking it was a typo.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 07:28:26 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Peter Ashby</title>
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						<p>@bmk</p><p>Perhaps you don't know, but here in the UK during a paedophile scare a couple of years ago a woman paediatrician in the Welsh borders had to leave her home after a group of ignorant idiots misinterpreted the word. My use of paediatrician then was a subtle reference to…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 07:25:16 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>bmk</title>
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						<blockquote><p>moral panic that various groups and the media won't let anyone challenge by the old saw of accusing them of being paediatricians</p></blockquote><p>I think that's the funniest typo I have ever read here:)</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 07:17:15 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Peter Ashby</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Regardless, Australian proposals to 'filter' the big bad foreign interweb have the air of Don Quioxte about them; quaint and entirely unworkable to my supremely un-techie like mind. What on earth is the point then?</p></blockquote><p>My understanding is it is a 'won't someone think of the children?' moral panic that…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 20:13:00 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jeremy Eade</title>
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						You know the only thing that makes me fell creepy about modern porn distribution is that it seems to be being made underground with very young girls and for an industry historic for abuse. That bothers me. The production side of the internet is not totally clean in this regard.…
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				<title>Christopher Dempsey</title>
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						<blockquote><p>What a numpty.</p></blockquote><p>A numpty alright and all out mad as batshit but I'm thankful he's there; proves that we really are <strong>everywhere</strong>.</p><p>Regardless, Australian proposals to 'filter' the big bad foreign interweb have the air of Don Quioxte about them; quaint and entirely unworkable to my supremely un-techie like…</p>
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				<title>David Mir</title>
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						Bravo Russel, top form with the update :)
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				<title>HORansome</title>
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						I've been meaning to ask this for a while, Russell, but is it possible to somehow show on System that the post has been updated (and then tell the RSS feed about the update)? I ask because you sometimes update your Monday/Tuesday (today, Wednesday) post with details about Media 7…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 15:02:22 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I would be loath to stand with Perigo on this one simply because I don't believe the Australian government filter has anything to do with this, and Perigo is basically taking an opportunistic pot-shot.</p></blockquote><p>Yes. I've updated the post itself to note that now.</p>
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				<title>David Mir</title>
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						<p>I would be loath to stand with Perigo on this one simply because I don't believe the Australian government filter has anything to do with this, and Perigo is basically taking an opportunistic pot-shot. <br />As some have mentioned, the internet kiosks in Australian airports are privately run. They are either…</p>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Not so much censoring but definitely manipulating...<br />BP buys up oil spill search terms to skirt bad publicity</p></blockquote><p>This happens all the time. For some reason I tend to get invited to lots of fancy dress parties, and i like to buy decent costumes from the United States, rather than…</p>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						Not exactly filtering, but <a href="http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/06/leak/?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+wired%2Findex+%28Wired%3A+Index+3+%28Top+Stories+2%29%29&amp;utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">wiki-leaks source in US intelligence</a> seems unlikely to leak any more.
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<p>On Craig's point above...</p><p>should you wish to, here's a link to the <a href="http://www.abc.net.au/rn/backgroundbriefing/stories/2009/2512171.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">ABC background briefing</a> on the Australian filter (albiet from a while back). Early on, the journalist notes that the blacklist of sites to be blocked will be secret and not subject to review in any way whatsoever:…</p>
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				<title>recordari</title>
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						<p>In an unguarded moment after something posted here I had the misfortune of reading some of Perigo's ravings.  'Sterilise... blah blah.'</p><p>As described above, the wire brush hardly did it justice.  If you stumble upon it by accident, then it won't take long for your own content filter to hit…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But wouldn't publication defeat the point of *any* block?</p></blockquote><p>Well, if any government wants to censor don't they actually have a moral and ethical obligation to be open and transparent about how they're applying legislation?  I know it's tiresome to keep acting as if I'm a citizen in a democracy…</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p>Not so much censoring but definitely manipulating...<br /><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&amp;objectid=10650682 " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> BP buys up oil spill search terms to skirt bad publicity</a></p>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						heh &ndash; Battlefield Earth was my first thought too &ndash; no cult should make their own hero's movies for them, it just ends up too embarrassing
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				<title>HORansome</title>
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						<p>Not just an awesome trainwreck, a potential trilogy of trainwrecks.</p><p>Although, I have to say, I'm still sore about there being no part 2 to "Battlefield: Earth." That was some of the best worst movie material I've ever had the pleasure to see on the big screen.</p>
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				<title>HORansome</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Yet David Farrar and Lynn Prentice aren't troll farming out of the same remand cell... Which isn't a bad thing, BTW.</p></blockquote><p>It's one of those days; I read "troll farming" as "raising those plastic toys with brightly-coloured hair" and wondered what I had missed in the news.</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Meanwhile, Lew at KiwiPolitico looks at <a href="http://www.kiwipolitico.com/2010/06/life-mimicking-art-atlas-shrugged-the-movies/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">the <em>Atlas Shrugged</em> movie apparently about to go into production</a>.</p><p>Could be a very awesome trainwreck.</p>
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						<p>I was also wondering what sort of mouth-breather pays ruinous airport internet fees to read the Perigo's, um, solo effusions.</p><p>So many questions, so little time.</p>
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						Too subhuman to pass the CAPTCHA.
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						<blockquote><p>Poor lambs.</p></blockquote><p>I gather Keith planned to register at SOLO so he could commiserate with them, but was blocked by the world's most inscrutable Captcha.</p><p>Although it was probably just because he was a weakling.</p>
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						<p>How funny &mdash; looks like we now know how to make a bunch of libertarians inordinately happy, without excessively exerting yourself or (in the US, at least) going to the trouble of repealing the Civil Rights Act. </p><p>Like Keith, I very much suspect that this black list is the result…</p>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But wouldn't publication defeat the point of *any* block?</p></blockquote><p>I'm talking about private commercial web-filtering software like Watchdog, which individuals or businesses are <em>choosing</em> to use. In which case, they can always be circumvented by using another computer, and users will know (if they can be bothered finding out) that…</p>
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				<title>Keith Ng</title>
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						<blockquote><p>How so? If the site still cannot be accessed, knowing its name is not going to help you reach it.</p></blockquote><p>Oversea proxies, anonymising proxies, Tor, etc.</p><p>Even the Great Firewall can be readily bypassed, and that's a massive, massive apparatus of state. This is a voluntary filter, enforced by ISPs,…</p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But wouldn't publication defeat the point of *any* block?</p></blockquote><p>How so? If the site still cannot be accessed, knowing its name is not going to help you reach it.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>And yes. I'd like to see private companies annually publish all the (non child pornography) sites they block, and the reason.</p></blockquote><p>But wouldn't publication defeat the point of *any* block?</p>
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				<title>GLaird</title>
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						We don't currently have the government's proposed internet filter in place yet (they are still trialling it) and there's nothing in place at this time stopping me visiting any site of my choice from my home in Sydney, so the filter thing is a bit strange unless perhaps there is…
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm with Telstra and I can confirm that I can.</p></blockquote><p>Yeah, the DIA list is checked by human beings, who are able to tell that SOLO isn't porn. "Objectionable content", perhaps, but not porn.</p><p>And yes. I'd like to see private companies annually publish all the (non child pornography) sites…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Others who have been accused of promoting such an act have had the might of the State come down upon them...</p></blockquote><p>Yet David Farrar and Lynn Prentice aren't troll farming out of the same remand cell...  Which isn't a bad thing, BTW.</p>
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				<title>Lyndon Hood</title>
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						Well, they don't seems to be on the Aussie blacklist...
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						Also, it would make sense for them to be on private Netnanny-style filters &ndash; the Govt ones wouldn't stop normal porn.
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				<title>Keith Ng</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Good point. Although my guess would be that the airports would use the official government filter rather than build their own.</p></blockquote><p>I think they're privately operated kiosks and subscribe to private filter lists. As I recall (and this was quite a few years ago), I couldn't get on the Onion,…</p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						I'm with Telstra and I can confirm that I can. Now, to clear my cache!
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				<title>Mikaere Curtis</title>
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						<p>When <a href="http://publicaddress.net/default,5308.sm#post5308" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Emma revealed</a> the Aussie filtering system, I contacted TelstraClear to see if they had implemented it here as well.  They said:</p><blockquote><p>Well we have been using mandatory filtering system to filter out child porn, but this should not affect your speed.</p></blockquote><p>They were right (on the speed, I haven't…</p>
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						Anyway, let's not reopen the wounds of that particular discussion. Instead, let us poke fun at Objectivists and, at the same time, bemoan the fact they are being censored.
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						Have people been charged for armed insurrection whilst not in the possession of weapons? That's my point. I'd much rather the state prosecuted idiots with weapons than idiots with opinions myself.
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						Some have been alleged to be in association with a very small cache of weapons, yes, but that's the subject of the current charge, not the subject of the original investigation.
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Others who have been accused of promoting such an act have had the might of the State come down upon them...</p></blockquote><p>Have they? Or was it because they were found in possession of, you know, weapons?</p>
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						<p>And here is another way the internet is being censored:</p><p><a href="http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=10/06/08/159217" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=10/06/08/159217</a></p><p>Racketeering.</p>
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						Not to reopen old wounds, but, yes, Perigo did call for armed insurrection and didn't seem to be questioned about it, which I took to be rather odd at the time and still find odd today. I mean, yes, he and his cronies are Objectivists and could never properly conspire…
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						<p>Lots of issues around this. Supposedly we can vote governments in and out but I suspect internet censorship is one tail wagging dog area minority parties will love.</p><p>Equally worrying is corporate censorship of the internet. Especially when those coporates have a monopoly over your computing devices (i.e. the things…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Yes &ndash; that was going to be my next question. Do we know it's the Aussie national censoring filter and not the airport's?</p></blockquote><p>That's a fair question, but in my (admittedly limited) experience airports filter so you're not accessing porn or flashing banner ads full of the Anglo-Saxon vernacular in…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Yes &ndash; that was going to be my next question. Do we know it's the Aussie national censoring filter and not the airport's?</p></blockquote><p>Good point. Although my guess would be that the airports would use the official government filter rather than build their own.</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I have no desire to trawl Perigo's site, but I recall a post from Mr Perigo a few months ago that suggested Barack Obama ought to be assassinated if he refused to listen to the voices of those who voted for "change" in the Massachusetts Senate race.</p></blockquote><p>I'm sure he…</p>
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						Yes &ndash; that was going to be my next question. Do we know it's the Aussie national censoring filter and not the airport's?
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						<blockquote><p>I'm sure a patient search would turn up many more examples of weird, unpleasant speech</p></blockquote><p>I have no desire to trawl Perigo's site, but I recall a post from Mr Perigo a few months ago that suggested Barack Obama ought to be assassinated if he refused to listen to the…</p>
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						<p>*sigh*  Don't you just hate it when a belief in free speech requires you to stand up for people who make you want to run out for a wire brush and industrial detergent.</p><blockquote><p>I don't care. I am disturbed at how easily a just-think-of-the-children policy on the part of the…</p></blockquote>
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						Victoria University has a filter that will block out sites with extreme political views. I have seen this in action. And yes, it's a university, not an airport. Also, as you'd expect, these sites aren't censored by humans, they let a very hit-and-miss algorithm do their bidding.
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						Hmm, third post already? Anyway, I'm not sure the Grand Wizard is in anyway innocent of Science; he does seem to quite actively protest against any science which has the temerity to be political (such as this blasted socialist weather system which is trying to persuade us that the climate…
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						Also, I like how the button for the first post is "Start Discussion."
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						<p>We seem to be developing a culture of saying "First!" here as if we're the denizens of comment threads at Ain't It Cool News.</p><p>Anyway...</p><p>After your last show with Jon, Mr. Litterick and I were walking home and bumped into some fellow from the Listener who was very disparaging…</p>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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