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				<title>andin</title>
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						<p><q>We scoff</q></p><p>Not me I was raised that way. Staying on the right side of the line, well, muscatelly  ;-)<br />Thats an underrated grape variety when not dried and turned to raisin.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 10 Apr 2019 11:59:26 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>andin</title>
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						Those Mediterranean countries virtually run on alcohol that addiction line is blurred to a  fuzz. But at least they have a midday siesta to sober them up so they can drink long into the night.
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				<title>andin</title>
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						<p><q>David, do you have any idea that Christianity is prominent in Pacific Island communities?</q></p><p>And alcoholism was virtually unknown in all indigenous cultures in that region until western style liquor was bought to that part of the world and tribal structures were undermined/destroyed. The purveyors of god werent far behind…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 10 Apr 2019 08:06:55 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Neil</title>
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						<p><q>Because you did a little bit of academic study, and a bit of internship, and maybe some work around the outskirts of the 12 step programs and now make a living out your addiction job, doesn’t automatically make you an expert.</q></p><p>Possibly you’re more familiar with the real hard edge…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 09 Apr 2019 22:32:17 +1200</pubDate>
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						<p><q>Because you did a little bit of academic study, and a bit of internship, and maybe some work around the outskirts of the 12 step programs and now make a living out your addiction job, doesn’t automatically make you an expert. </q></p><p>You are making a lot of assumptions there. Unlikely…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 06 Apr 2019 00:55:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>andin</title>
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						Sorry to hear that.He was going it alone Im guessing Self medicating, self diagnosing, if it was years ago in NZ would have had to have been
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				<pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2019 19:28:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>That’s not the problem. The problem is that there wasn’t really anything else available.</q></p><p>Yeah, that’s the problem. Maia Szalavitz is pretty compelling on this – <a href="https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2016/05/01/476193634/does-addiction-treatment-require-a-higher-power" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">pointing out</a> that 12 Steps does alienate people and doesn’t have a better success rate than other therapies. She actually thinks it should be…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2019 18:40:56 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q> more secular in its intent.</q></p><p>A big but tho. They still suffer from seeing whatever it is they think cures addictions as being/owing something to some “force” external to the individual, and needing to put that in their framework. Is that what agencies have to do when trying to get…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2019 18:18:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<p>I think it might help just for reference to list what the <a href="https://www.addictioncenter.com/treatment/12-step-programs/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">twelve steps</a> are, because I think AA and NA have sort of entered pop culture from a US perspective without us really realising how religious it is:</p><p><q>Here are the 12 Steps as defined by Alcoholics Anonymous:</p><p>We…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2019 16:00:49 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Neil</title>
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						<p><q>People who have done things like burgling chemist shops or driving with ridicules blood alcohol levels while having small children the car.</q></p><p>I think I see your point. Perphaps this is about identifying and dealing with different personality types and addiction.</p><p>Some people respond well to addiction services that cater…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2019 12:19:41 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>For practical reasons, expensive residential treatment centres that house a broad spectrum of vulnerable and potentially volatile people, can’t afford to fuck around with fat heads.</q></p><p>That’s not really what it’s about though. It means that the only way to enter a judicial process and stay out of jail is…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2019 10:26:46 +1300</pubDate>
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						<q> the healthcare industry – because it’s still very white and very abolitionist, when it gets up to the high level. I think we need to mature, because there’s a whole lot of people being taught about harm reduction at university level, then they get into the industry, and it’s captured…</q>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2019 15:02:48 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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