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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Thanks, Tim. Really glad you ran with the full Foo experience too.
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				<pubDate>Sun, 27 Feb 2011 11:19:41 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>tim kong</title>
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						<p>Just wanted to follow up on Robyn's post about the <a href="http://eq.org.nz" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://eq.org.nz</a> project. </p><p>It's been amazing to be a part of something really powerful and scarily scattered. Yet at its simplest level, it's caring people doing really cool shit.</p><p>There's a number of KiwiFoo folk in there, but volunteers from Switzerland,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 27 Feb 2011 02:12:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						Oh well, never mind. And meanwhile, enjoy giving your pepeha at the wedding today.
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				<pubDate>Sat, 26 Feb 2011 10:48:30 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						Manda Paler was fascinating &mdash; and she asks a really good question about the "performative" nature of creative people on social media.  There's an interesting case study in her own life: Her husband, Neil Gaiman, recently marked his 11th anniversary as a blogger &mdash; which started out with a fascinating…
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				<pubDate>Sat, 26 Feb 2011 09:41:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Thanks for reminding me to get it off itunes.</q></p><p>Nooo!!</p><p>Buy it <a href="http://music.amandapalmer.net/album/amanda-palmer-goes-down-under" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">direct from Amanda via Bandcamp</a>, where she lets you name your price and most of it goes to her.</p><p>ETA: SteveH, snap.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 22:57:11 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And yet, as I said, very well-suited to the new world of flashmobs and ninja gigs. She's really expert at making things happen around her.</p></blockquote><p>The best people make things happen in every circumstance. </p><p>I kicked back against the Palmer hype in my internet with friends in Australia telling me…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 21:02:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						Thanks Steve, but I already paid $1.79 for it. All good.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:13:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>SteveH</title>
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						<p><q>Thanks for reminding me to get it off itunes.</q></p><p>Instead of paying Apple for it, why not get it here: <a href="http://music.amandapalmer.net/album/amanda-palmer-goes-down-under" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://music.amandapalmer.net/album/amanda-palmer-goes-down-under</a><br />$.69 USD plus whatever you feel like paying. For the entire album.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 17:54:49 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						Thanks for reminding me to get it off itunes. That'll do nicely when I go walking tomorrow as one of my "dance like no-one's watching" tracks. Actually, there you go Christchurchians. Want a little giggle? Think of me at 6.30 tomorrow morning dancing along Dominion Rd with CeeLo Green and…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 17:30:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>andin</title>
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						<p>'Map of Tasmania' <br />That is a good song.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 16:14:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>recordari</title>
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						<p><q>Opened my eyes to his much wider than anticipated influences.</q></p><p>If you want some 'influences' off the new album, open a link to '<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8A9bMTh9rdQ " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Bloom</a>', and then open one to Pharoah Saunders '<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13L6sjk080c" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">The creator has a master plan</a>'.  Might be just me, but if I knew how, I'd be making…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:26:58 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Agreed. She and Jason Webley both left me with the impression they’ve had plenty of practise playing unruly spaces. And I could hear her at the back. An interestingly old-school set of skills for an internet celebrity</q></p><p>And yet, as I said, very well-suited to the new world of flashmobs…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:22:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>Or is any change a good change?</q></p><p>I'm with Gio on this. I could care less about how twitter looks and so in this case the design matters not a whit to me.</p><p>But as the place I have worked in has evolved from a research institute that mostly just…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:03:52 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						<p><q>How can you be angry at a whale?</q></p><p>I've always thought Captain Ahab would appreciate the linkage of white whale to failure...</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:58:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Lyndon Hood</title>
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						<blockquote><p>quite another to have the technique and emotional intelligence to hold 300 people in a public square with nothing more than her voice and a battered ukulele.</p></blockquote><p>Agreed. She and Jason Webley both left me with the impression they’ve had plenty of practise playing unruly spaces. And I could hear…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:44:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<p><q>And no, I'm not "really upset".</q></p><p>Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that was a description of you.</p>
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				<title>Andre Alessi</title>
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						<p><q>There are always going to be people who are genuinely distressed when a site changes its design, more due to the fact that it's changed, that it's different, not familiar, and they have to get to know it all over again.</q></p><p>I was a regular on <a href="http://www.fark.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Fark</a> when they rolled…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:39:10 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<p><q>It's hard work, but it's paying off.</q></p><p>Fantastic.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:38:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Peter Darlington</title>
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						<p><q>(And I don't even really like Radiohead.)</q></p><p>I prefer the solo Thom Yorke stuff with the ambient 'Hyperdubby' thing going on. Very nice and perfect accompaniment for a fairly impressive white boy falsetto. He did a nice mix show with Gilles Peterson last year. Opened my eyes to his much…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:33:36 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Che Tibby</title>
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						<p><q>It's hard work, but it's paying off.</q></p><p>frankly, i think all you people should get a fcking medal.</p>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<p><q>People left with heads full of ideas about what they could do, and what they could do better. In the wake of the massive challenge that reared up on Tuesday, that's still no bad thing.</q></p><p>Something concrete that's come directly from the enthusiasm of Webstock (and also Kiwi FOO) is…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:31:36 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<p><q>These companies know they have to gradually introduce new designs &ndash; give people the option of playing with it, rather than forcing it upon users. But there are always going to be people who find any kind of change to be really upsetting.</q></p><p>That's a tad condescending. Am I allowed…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:24:58 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<p><q>Which is more than Facebook ever did.</q></p><p>There are always going to be people who are genuinely distressed when a site changes its design, more due to the fact that it's changed, that it's <em>different</em>, not familiar, and they have to get to know it all over again.</p><p>Facebook is…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:21:38 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<p><q>Fair enough. He said they were prepared for the "I hate new Twitter!" messages when they launched it, but were quite surprised to get considerably more "I love new Twitter!" messages.</q></p><p>Yes, they all say that. :-)</p><p>To their credit, if you're still on the old one they at least…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:06:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Neil Morrison</title>
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						<p>Another hirsute celebration:</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_41yAymp4W4" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_41yAymp4W4</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:06:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Andre Alessi</title>
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						<p><q>he expressly didn’t take credit for was the Fail Whale</q></p><p>Which is a good thing, since the Fail Whale was made by an artist called <a href="http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8&amp;sourceid=navclient&amp;gfns=1&amp;q=fail+whale+history+artist" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Yiying Lu</a>, who had posted the image to iStockphoto and didn’t realise it had been picked up and used by Twitter.</p><p>(I’m not sure of the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:04:32 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>By the way I didn’t mean to be wholly sarcastic, nothing but respect for actual designers. I happen to think that the new Twitter sucks, however, from a design point of view. </q></p><p>Fair enough. He said they were prepared for the "I hate new Twitter!" messages when they launched it,…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Just one thing of a technical nature, for your creative director, when you hit ‘Edit Profile’, it seems to come up with all fields, except the name, blank. At least on two Mac computers I’ve tried.</q></p><p>Me too! Thanks. I'll pass that on now.</p>
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						Just one thing of a technical nature, for your creative director, when you hit 'Edit Profile', it seems to come up with all fields, except the name, blank.  At least on two Mac computers I've tried.  Was thinking of adding some location data, but wondered where all my other details…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:57:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						(By the way I didn't mean to be wholly sarcastic, nothing but respect for actual designers. I happen to think that the new Twitter sucks, however, from a design point of view. Stop getting away from clean lines and simple designs, Internet! If he was going to complicate Google, I'm…
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>What do you mean “but also colours?” Are colours not part of the design?</q></p><p>Yes, of course. But I was meaning UI design in terms of where everything is put, the way forms are presented, etc.</p>
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				<title>recordari</title>
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						<p><q>Oh yes. And her half-million Twitter followers will see her … patting me on the head.</q><br />I'm sure you won't let it go to your head...</p><p><droll></p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<p><q>Principally, user-interface design, but also colours, branding, etc</q></p><p>What do you mean "but also colours?" Are colours not part of the design? And he didn't even come up with the whale, which favourably shaped perceptions of Twitter! I want this guy's job. </p><p>Am I free today? No, it's Tuesday, I've…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:50:11 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						Speaking of Twitter: it’s borked.
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Amanda Palmer on Media7 last night. Legend.</q></p><p>Oh yes. And her half-million Twitter followers will see her ... patting me on the head.</p><p><q>Oh, I see. Someone tweeted they were hoping they would come to next Webstock. Is that even a remote possibility? I’d go, FWIW.</q></p><p>Saw that tweet. They'd…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:48:42 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>recordari</title>
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						<p>Amanda Palmer on Media7 last night.  Legend.<br /><q>(And I don’t even really <em>like</em> Radiohead.)</q><br />Oh, I see.  Someone tweeted they were hoping they would come to next Webstock.  Is that even a <em>remote</em> possibility?  I’d go, FWIW.<br /><q>Doug was actually design lead at Google before he went to Twitter, and…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:45:43 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Yes. And it was a perfectly serious question: what does he do?</q></p><p>Principally, user-interface design, but also colours, branding, etc. One thing he expressly didn’t take credit for was the Fail Whale, which was introduced by Biz Stone and the original group of founders. He agreed that the decision to…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:43:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Megan Wegan</title>
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						Bonus badtom sighting in that first photo
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:37:34 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Andre Alessi</title>
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						<p><q>Wait: Twitter has a creative director? What does he do?</q></p><p>If the answer is "making up punn-y handles all day" I will be <em>so jealous</em>.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:36:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						Yes. And it was a perfectly serious question: what does he do?
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:33:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						Well, that's damned with faint praise: practically *anything* would be more than Gio thinks.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:32:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Wait: Twitter has a creative director? What does he do?</q></p><p>More than you'd think.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:30:21 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						Wait: Twitter has a creative director? What does he do?
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:25:50 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Public Address</title>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:25:50 +1300</pubDate>
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