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				<title>DexterX</title>
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						<p><q>I was hoping someone would say that. New Zealanders and their renovations &ndash; this could be the most contributed to thread in the history of PAS.</q></p><p>La Moyenne Bourgeoisie desire a different kind of buzz, It intrigues me how some "houses" in the "central city" of Auckland suffer from the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2014 22:32:02 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>This looks like an suggestion for the Mayor of Auckland to use glass walls for his dressing and bathroom/toilet. Hence we found something sillier than the original HOS story.</q></p><p>We can only imagine the response had he actually done such a ridiculous thing.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2014 19:09:32 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<p><q>Well considering you live in Japan, you might be aware of Yasuo Tanaka, the governor of Nagano, who was a champion of reform and transparency. He was the guy who transformed his private office into a glass-walled room as a symbolic representation of transparency...</p><p>Sure, you may argue that it…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2014 16:12:33 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Myles Thomas</title>
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						<p>What is most galling is that HOS readership is over 300,000 while Public Address is a bit less. And you know that any apology, correction or balance (if it were to come) would be buried inside the later pages. </p><p>I don't think people would care so much what a newspaper…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2014 00:24:55 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>more selective moralising?</strong><br />re the Pastor praying for someone to commit suicide:</p><p>I note that <em>Stuff</em> has a <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/63934551/Pastor-told-gay-Christian-Go-kill-yourself" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">screen shot of the email</a> which ends:<br />"I pray that you will commit suicide, you filthy child molesting fag."<br />which is a bit different to their headline:<br />"Pastor told gay Christian: Go…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2014 16:58:12 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>And from her former colleague, Tony Wall, also to me:</p><p>“oh for god’s sake enough of the moralising – it was just a good old fashioned yarn !”</q></p><p>It was only a joke and a hug ...</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2014 14:10:50 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>No it’s a dual function door – saving valuable floor space (and hence ratepayers dollars) by combining bookshelves with door functionality.</q></p><p>In addition to hiding the mayoral sex dungeon. Is that what they refer to as "nailing it"? Or is that used to talk about something else to do with…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2014 14:05:42 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q> like a door.</p><p>But it *is* a door.</q></p><p>No it's a dual function door &ndash; saving valuable floor space (and hence ratepayers dollars) by combining bookshelves with door functionality.</p><p>Truly forward thinking.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2014 14:04:11 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>the HACK Cheryl Howie</q></p><p>fixed for you</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2014 13:56:36 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>casual meetings</q></p><p>As opposed to the "casual meatings" that el Granny would have us believe will be going on in Len's sex dungeon?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2014 13:55:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						Ah. Here's <a href="http://architecturenow.co.nz/articles/auckland-city-council/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">a story on the design company</a> that did the sex dungeon^H^H^H fitout for 135 Albert Street. Something about "bump spaces" and "casual meetings". Ooo-er.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2014 13:41:45 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Stanley Pointen</title>
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						It is now fairly obvious that the Herald has become embedded within the Auckland right-wing black ops political apparatus, which is cause for very serious concern, and will have consequences.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2014 13:37:05 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>It’s actually hard for me to imagine how pointless or ill-informed a story would have to be before they’d apologise for running it.</q></p><p>Based on the total lack of contrition for Wine-bottle-that-didn’t-exist Gate, I don’t think such a story exists. The editorial staff would probably offer trite platitudes in the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2014 13:04:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Dave Waugh</title>
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						Maybe they should just get Taito Phillip Field in to see if he can get the cost of the tiling down some more?
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2014 12:48:02 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>ASB ... included a rather luscious executive suite on the top floor I believe</q></p><p>You believe correctly. Having been there in a former employment life, I can attest to the opulent nature of its (former) fit-out. Not to mention the sweeping harbour views all the way north-to-south. Oh and the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2014 12:46:58 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>That would be nice, Sam. But remember when the British press were piously intoning they were going to clean up their act after Diana died?</q></p><p>It took a major scandal like Hackgate to get to that point in Britain, and even then it's still largely business as usual. The News…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2014 10:22:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>bob daktari</title>
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						<p><q>the bigger problem is lack of an alternative</q></p><p>plenty of alternatives... we're at one now... for those looking</p><p>Big media is what it is, sad and morally bankrupt, and this won't change its only going to get worse cause truth is a virtue big business and those in power cannot…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2014 10:14:05 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>I’d consider making a line of T-shirts bearing ‘the NZ Herald is a bucket of piss’ or similar.</q></p><p>I'd buy one of those, except urine never did anything to deserve such a horrible diss. :)</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2014 10:01:05 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sam Bradford</title>
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						<p>Oh, I'm not optimistic! It's actually hard for me to imagine how pointless or ill-informed a story would have to be before they'd apologise for running it. The problem is that people still take it seriously. (OK, the bigger problem is lack of an alternative.)</p><p>I'd consider making a line…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2014 08:34:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						The so-called Taxpayers Union calling for recall elections is hardly surprising given that the Auckland political right – an odious assorted bunch of creeps that includes the core of the dirty politics brigade with the likes of Cameron Slater, Dick Quax, Cameron Brewer, and Carrick Graham, plus most of the…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2014 08:32:39 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>The editorial team need to be embarrassed into upping their game.</q></p><p>That would be nice, Sam.  But remember when the British press were piously intoning they were going to clean up their act after Diana died?  I sincerely take no pleasure in saying this, but I think the only things…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2014 07:45:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Inside their newsroom, not inside their pages. Some basic ethics reflection wouldn't go astray. They seem to have forgotten whatever their parents taught them about right and wrong.
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						Oh, interesting. Where was that?
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2014 07:37:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Mark Fiasco</title>
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						I once heard Cameron Brewer brag that he purposely says the most contrarian view in order to get in the paper. He seemed to think this was impressive rather than morally bankrupt.
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				<title>Karen Adams</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2014 07:23:33 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>The editorial team need to be embarrassed into upping their game.</q></p><p>And that might mean something like a Chasers or Borat-grade hoax.</p>
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				<title>Sam Bradford</title>
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						The New Zealand Herald is a bad fucking joke, and the more often people say that out loud, the better. The editorial team need to be embarrassed into upping their game.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2014 00:26:32 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>in far too short a supply inside their newsrooms nowadays, perhaps.</q></p><p>No, the problem is the <em>Herald</em> does far too much "moralising" without drawing that tiresome distinction between editorial opinion and hard news.</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>And from her former colleague, Tony Wall, also to me:</p><p>“oh for god’s sake enough of the moralising – it was just a good old fashioned yarn !”</p><p>This really is some bullshit.</q></p><p>Eleanor Catton told a good old fashioned yarn.  Victoria University Press marketed it as fiction.  Spot the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 23:12:42 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>the Governor speaks...</strong><br /><q>the Herald is probably the best paper we have.</q><br />in Auckland isn't it the <em>only</em> paper you have?</p><p>Hobson's Choice is a very Kiwi tradition...</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>inside the lie bury...</strong><br /><q> door to the bathroom ... shelves full of books. Apparently this is not an uncommon theme in NZ interior design.</q><br />Hmmm, <br />ergo<br />it's novels, <br />but it's not<br />novel!<br />very Zen...</p><p>:-  )</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>Mike Moore would disappear down here for weeks – they had to send the army down with dogs and climbing gear to find him.</q></p><p>nah, dangle a lambburger and he'd scamper right back.</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>moralising</q></p><p>in far too short a supply inside their newsrooms nowadays, perhaps.</p>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>Also, John Key has had a secret tunnel built from Premier House to the nearby US embassy.</q><br />[[http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2009/11/03/dimpost-profile-john-key/|Key: This is more private. Besides, I rather like it. The dark . . . the silence. Helen told me these caverns extend for miles but I’ve never taken the time to explore.…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>The editor – not a newbie intern, but the fricking editor – says, of Auckland councillors on Twitter:</p><p>“Maybe they’d all attend more if they had their own hidden rooms to muck about in.”</q></p><p>And from her former colleague, Tony Wall, also to me:</p><p>"oh for god's sake enough of…</p>
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				<title>Kracklite</title>
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						New motto: “The Herald: justifying Jafa stereotypes since… what was the question?” >:)
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 21:27:57 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>Because a lot of good, important journalism comes with it. Fisher, Nippert and others. Excellent magazine writing by the likes of Alan Perrott, etc. As vexing as it might be, the Herald is probably the best paper we have.</q></p><p>And also, boycotts are much more effective against radio and TV…</p>
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				<title>Gareth Swain</title>
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						Now that makes sense. Ta!
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				<title>simon g</title>
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						<p>Wow. And wow again.</p><p>The editor – not a newbie intern, but the fricking editor – says, of Auckland councillors on Twitter:</p><p>“Maybe they’d all attend more if they had their own hidden rooms to muck about in.”</p><p>So, just to clarify this extraordinary mindset, when asked about councillors’ attendance…</p>
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				<title>Gary Young</title>
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						<p>"Why would the Herald publish a beat up"</p><p>Because, I suspect, there are those in the journalist pool who would really like to create New Zealand's version of the Fox News Network.</p>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p><q>There are two secret hidden sex doors in the Oval Office</q></p><p>I was fairly sure there were three. Also, John Key has had a secret tunnel built from Premier House  to the nearby US embassy. They did this at the same time as painting the gates grey.</p><p>Based the work…</p>
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				<title>Gary Young</title>
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						And I'm in a bar in Queenstown where the door to the bathrooms and the adjacent wall are covered in wallpaper depicting shelves full of books. Apparently this is not an uncommon theme in NZ interior design.
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Bevan Chuang has posted <a href="https://bevanchuang.wordpress.com/2014/12/07/this-is-how-some-journo-talk-to-subjects/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">her exchange</a> with the author of this unfortunate story, seeking comment.
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Hmmm, so people really do just sit back and accept shoddy journalism because there’s nothing else? </q></p><p>Because a lot of good, important journalism comes with it. Fisher, Nippert and others. Excellent magazine writing by the likes of Alan Perrott, etc. As vexing as it might be, the Herald is probably…</p>
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				<title>Gareth Swain</title>
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						<p><q>It's had a monopoly on the AKL market since the Auckland Star folded in 1991.</q></p><p>Hmmm, so people really do just sit back and accept shoddy journalism because there's nothing else? Why, though? Even if there is no easily accessible mainstream source of unbiased, rigorously researched, properly edited news, wouldn't…</p>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>Why do people support (by buying) the Herald when that is its standard of journalism? Is it because there's no better alternative?</q></p><p>It's had a monopoly on the AKL market since the Auckland Star folded in 1991. The ComCom needs to sharpen its claws. Yesterday.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 19:02:56 +1300</pubDate>
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						Sorry, I told a lie. There is not one BS Len Brown story on the front of the Herald web page. There are two.
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						<p>Wait- on the front page of the Herald there are calls for recall elections. On the basis of 'secret rooms'.</p><p>The Herald. Gutter journalism since I don't know about a year ago. Before Granny was a Tory from on high, now she's down and dirty.</p>
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				<title>Brian Murphy</title>
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						<p>Fine infomercial here for a product that could help monitoring the Mayor, and any guests.</p><p>The TU should stump up the funds.</p><p>Smartpipe!</p><p><a href="http://youtu.be/DJklHwoYgBQ" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://youtu.be/DJklHwoYgBQ</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 18:42:22 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						<p><q>Amongst these photos</q></p><p>Those fly ones are just wrong, yo.</p>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p>Perhaps all is not lost at the Herald.....</p><p><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/news-cartoons/news/article.cfm?c_id=500814&amp;objectid=11367770" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.nzherald.co.nz/news-cartoons/news/article.cfm?c_id=500814&amp;objectid=11367770</a></p>
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						<p><q>May not mean anything, but somebody on Twitter has noted that the reporter’s by-line (Cherie somebody) has been removed from the online story.</q></p><p>It's still there.</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>There’s a scandal there alright, and it’s not about what type of door but about people who rarely seem to come through them to get the work done.</q></p><p>I look forward to Jordan Williams' furious press release demanding an amendment to the Local Government Act mandating the removal of work-shy…</p>
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				<title>kw</title>
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						<p>I look forward to Rodney's diatribe next week being about the refusal of some councillors to let go of their vendetta against Brown and constant seizing on small stupid things.</p><p>Meanwhile, just to further cheapen the whole thing but t's pretty hard to take any of it seriously, my favourite…</p>
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				<title>Julie Fairey</title>
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						Perhaps someone should ask the councillors concerned about the significantly improved offices they are getting out of the shift? They weren't allotted proper ones the first time around, and mostly ended up in window less (or at least) tiny cupboards.  They now have workable spaces with nice views.  Also the…
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						ah, is <em>that</em> where the loo was in that great bar
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>I’ve come to the conclusion the only solution is cloning Todd Niall.</q></p><p>After binge watching both seasons of <em>Orphan Black</em>, I endorse this proposal.  But only if one of Niall’s clones does something hideously unpleasant to Shayne Currie with a glue gun, a pencil, the power of science and a…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>Recap: Bullshit news story draws bullshit press release from bullshit “union” linked to the bullshit, which becomes a follow-up bullshit news story.</q></p><p>A modest revenue-gathering suggestion for NZME:  Set up a widget to direct all Cameron Brewer and Jordan Williams' press releases straight to the <em>Herald</em>'s advertising department, and charge…</p>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q> It should not be my moral indignation that you should be concerned about; it should be the sensitivity of those who live in your fair city. </q></p><p>So what would it take to placate these sensitive souls? A downloadable app linked to a kind of home detention bracelet tailored to fit…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						I've come to the conclusion the only solution is cloning Todd Niall.
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 17:20:22 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						Recap: Bullshit news story draws bullshit press release from bullshit “union” linked to the bullshit, which becomes a follow-up bullshit news story.
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>It should not be my moral indignation that you should be concerned about; it should be the sensitivity of those who live in your fair city.</q></p><p>I’m more concerned about the only daily newspaper in Auckland’s insensitivity to basic journalistic norms that were dunned into my head at journalism school…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>said Councillor Speeddial </q></p><p>LOL.</p>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						The best bookshelf door to a bathroom I have seen is at the Havana Bar in Wellington, which looks a lot more like a regular bookshelf than a door &ndash; just by the way.
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						<p><strong>All that's shit to print</strong></p><p><q> <strong>They’re not secret rooms.</strong> They’re behind a door, like most ensuites are.</q></p><p>Auckland should demand the Mayor use the toilet in clear view of the ratepaying public. Think he's pissing away your money? Take a look.</p><p>Perhaps the Herald should run a pipe from the…</p>
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				<title>Jim Cathcart</title>
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						<q> I’m sorry you don’t like the outcome of a free, fair and legitimate election. The Herald has made it abundantly clear it doesn’t. But it’s not Brown or Auckland City’s responsibility that the only daily newspaper in Auckland is exercising the prerogative of the harlot throughout the ages. It would…</q>
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						<p><q>He was the guy who transformed his private office into a glass-walled room as a symbolic representation of transparency.</q></p><p>"Brown's Vanity Show ... On the Rates!". </p><p>"This is yet more proof of the mayor's inflated ego, wanting to be on display" said Councillor Speeddial ..."</p><p>etc, etc. </p><p>Nothing stops those…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						What an absurd waste of public money.  Brown should be forced to go buy his own crap bucket at The Warehouse, like the ordinary hardworking battlers this sleazy pointy-headed elitist treats with such contempt.  Or something.
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						<p>Acceptable alternative pictured:<br /><a href="https://twitter.com/rmi/status/541389469291540480" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://twitter.com/rmi/status/541389469291540480</a></p>
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						<p><q>If I were Len Brown or one of his spin team, I would have made it anticipated this and made it clear that the secret rooms were for Len and the future cleanliness of other mayors.</q></p><p>In which case, Jim, I would be genuinely outraged at such an egregious waste…</p>
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						<p><q>There MUST (sorry to shout) be some issue of greater importance than this?</q></p><p>Oh, the still-unackowledged involvement of journalists in #dirtypolitics, NZ's embarrasment of a response to climate change, chronic poverty, child abuse, economic under-development.</p>
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				<title>John Farrell</title>
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						A cynic would say that he had other places available that were more private, and more secret.
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				<title>Jim Cathcart</title>
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						Well considering you live in Japan, you might be aware of Yasuo Tanaka, the governor of Nagano, who was a champion of reform and transparency. He was the guy who transformed his private office into a glass-walled room as a symbolic representation of transparency. Tanaka was a champion of the…
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 16:17:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>John Farrell</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 16:11:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Gareth Swain</title>
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						<p>Why do people support (by buying) the Herald when that is its standard of journalism? Is it because there's no better alternative?</p><p>Being overseas, I don't really know the general sentiment in NZ when it comes to things like this. </p><p>(Also, sorry for asking basically the same question as I…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 16:08:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>But it *is* a door.</q></p><p>It's also slightly less utilitarian.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 15:59:39 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>So yes, if I were an adviser to the mayoral office, I would have recommended something more utilitarian, like a door.</q></p><p>Nah, you'd have saved it up and then sold it to the Herald. It's what a "second-rate, creepy mayor like Brown" deserves, right?</p><p>Basically your point is that we…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 15:58:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matt Fairhurst</title>
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						<p>I would have recommended something more utilitarian, like a door.</p><p>But it *is* a door.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 15:55:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						There sure are <a href="https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=bookcase+door&amp;espv=2&amp;biw=2550&amp;bih=1249&amp;tbm=isch&amp;tbo=u&amp;source=univ&amp;sa=X&amp;ei=c7SDVI3wIISQ8QWGi4DABA&amp;ved=0CBsQsAQ" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">a lot of sex dungeons</a>.
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				<title>Jim Cathcart</title>
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						<p><q> Okay, let’s say they should have anticipated that this non-issue would be a front-page lead in the Sunday paper. </q> </p><p>OK, lets assume it’s a non-issue to Brown or his comms team. And let’s also assume it’s a non-issue to middle NZers. Why would the Herald publish a beat up without…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 15:37:15 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p>I quickly perused the Herald and Stuff early this am....in case some earth shattering event had been missed by Natrad news.</p><p>Saw the piece under discussion here and dismissed it as what has now become the usual Herald tripe.  And the Collins crap....and as for Michele Hewiston's 'interview' with Millie…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 15:36:45 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>I cannot remember the last time I saw or encountered a bookcase-merged-door interior design of a bathroom. Is it as common as you think? I’m sure that the average suburban citizen doesn’t think so.</q></p><p>It seems common enough, but even if it wasn’t, __what on earth is there about it…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 15:08:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<p><q>I cannot remember the last time I saw or encountered a bookcase-merged-door interior design of a bathroom.</q></p><p>Amongst <a href="http://www.tripadvisor.co.nz/ShowUserReviews-g255118-d4161660-r186606847-C1_espresso-Christchurch_Canterbury_Region_South_Island.html#photos" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">these photos</a>, you will find one of the bookcase door that leads to the toilets at C1. That's even a public access area, which the mayor's dressing room is NOT. </p><p>Also, I…</p>
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				<title>simon g</title>
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						<p>And I ask again, <em>how</em>?</p><p>What should have been done, by whom? </p><p>I'm pretty sure the Herald could twist anything you suggest , but would be happy to be wrong. Enlighten us.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 14:23:48 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jim Cathcart</title>
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						<p><q> They're not secret rooms. They're behind a door, like most ensuites are. The designers merged the door with the bookcase, which is a pretty common interior design thing, especially for small spaces.</q></p><p>I cannot remember the last time I saw or encountered a bookcase-merged-door interior design of a bathroom. Is…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 14:15:20 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Dylan Reeve</title>
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						<p>Wouldn't a hidden room be the ideal place for smoking crack?</p><p>#JustAskingQuestions</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 14:08:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q> If I were Len Brown or one of his spin team, I would have made it anticipated this and made it clear that the secret rooms were for Len and the future cleanliness of other mayors.</q></p><p><strong>They're not secret rooms.</strong> They're behind a door, like most ensuites are. The designers…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 14:01:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>simon g</title>
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						<p>How would this "making it clear" work, Jim?</p><p>A phone call to the Herald: "Hi, here are some things you might deliberately misreport, this is just a heads-up so you won't  ... " ?</p><p>In short, get real.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 13:44:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						Cabinet Ministers, most CEOs, heads of government departments, even some school principals have such 'lairs'. Didn't 7 Sharp go and have a look at the PM's one last year as part of a portrait of the PM's day, for one of their pre-election soft stories?
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 13:42:39 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jim Cathcart</title>
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						Yeah, well, is it any surprise that the media can get away with this when you have a second-rate, creepy mayor like Brown? Whether you like it or not, everyone is not as freewheelin' with their moral opinion Len Brown as the PA readership. If I were Len Brown or…
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 13:40:24 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>To really take the thread to the record</q></p><p>copyrighted material</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 13:27:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>simon g</title>
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						May not mean anything, but somebody on Twitter has noted that the reporter's by-line (Cherie somebody) has been removed from the online story.
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				<title>Alex Coleman</title>
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						<p>Also, from the HoS's own reporting:</p><p><q>"All decisions relating to what facilities were included as part of the move were made by Auckland Council, not the mayoral office, and all costs were part of that Auckland Council budget.</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 13:19:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>Research and effort required: minimal. Is basic professionalism too much to ask?</q></p><p>Apparently so &mdash; and not for the first time, Russell seems to have committed more journalism in ten half-awake Sunday morning minutes than The Horsepiss on Sunday managed all week.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 13:15:48 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>I counted at least six examples of mendacity or innuendo in that short release. </p><p>If the Farrar Front is going to be quoted in the media, couldn't the journos at least read a couple of paragraphs and then <em>ask questions</em> ?</p><p>"Why do you call it a lair? In what…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 13:12:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>“A secret dressing room, complete with a two seater couch, is a luxury lair, not value for money for ratepayers.”</q></p><p>Does this idiot have any idea what a proper bed of nails costs?</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 13:12:01 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Andrew Geddis</title>
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						<p><q>The inevitable idiotic press release from the Taxpayers’ Onion has been delivered:</q></p><p>And published almost verbatim on the NZ Herald website ... . </p><p>The tl;dr &ndash; "See! This really <strong>was</strong> an important story!! It's sparked a serious debate about local politician accountability!!!"</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 13:05:48 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>The inevitable idiotic press release from the Taxpayers' Onion has been delivered:</p><p><q>MEDIA RELEASE<br />TIME FOR AUCKLAND RATEPAYERS TO HAVE A RECALL OPTION<br />7 DECEMBER 2014<br />FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE</p><p>The Taxpayers' Union is calling on the Government to give local communities the ability to petition for recall elections, after Len…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 12:55:40 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Andrew Geddis</title>
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						<p><q>What would have been wrong with a door?</q></p><p>It is a door. Just one with bookshelves on it, that add extra storage space in what appears to be (from the NZ Herald's schematic diagram) a pretty small office and also (from an aesthetic point of view) doesn't break up the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 12:48:37 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew  Hooton</title>
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						<p>Every minister in the Beehive used to have their own shower, dressing room etc, and maybe they still do.<br />So the story is a total beat up.<br />But the "secret annexe" bookshelf entrance does make it comical and therefore somewhat newsworthy.<br />What would have been wrong with a door?</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 12:32:41 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>on the road to…. Damascus?</strong><br /><q>Sunday Star Times on page 3….. [We have Judith]</q><br />…and <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/63875544/A-new-crush-free-Judith-Collins" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">page 9</a><br />I especially like the photo of Judith with Cam and Carrick behind her in their balaclavas… – some kind of jolly hijab jape perhaps?</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p>To really take the thread to the record, the dungeon needs to also have a massive stash of pirated movies, especially porno.</p><p>Also, it has to have a discreet entrance. What use is a sex dungeon if you have to enter it through the front door of the Mayor's office?…</p>
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				<title>Steve Curtis</title>
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						<p><q> They're not only great for blocking out light and noise, </q></p><p>I would have thought blackout blinds are useful for doing  TV interviews in the office, when they want  to control the lighting.</p>
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				<title>simon g</title>
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						<p>The headline does provide a useful public service, though. It immediately tells you not to bother with the execrable Herald, thereby adding valuable minutes to your summer Sunday. Thanks guys!</p><p>Next week's issue: "Mayor's Rubber Revelation!" (a condom machine has been installed in a pub, somewhere on Queen St, a…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>The mayor’s office will not have blinds like any other office, but “blackout blinds”</q></p><p>And take away the sleazy, nudge-nudge, wink-wink scare quotes any decent home furnishing store should have <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackout_%28fabric%29" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">a wide range of blackout drapery</a> readily available.  They're not only great for blocking out light and noise, but the…</p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<p><q>and get back to hating on the Herald.</q></p><p>Hating on The Listener is so 2008.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 11:50:30 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						You forgot cycling. We need to cycle the leg of lamb to the hidden renovated bathroom, have a quick short black, and get back to hating on the Herald.
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 11:47:42 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Andrew Geddis</title>
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						<p><q>If only they’d plumbed in a coffee machine this one might have lasted till Easter :)</q></p><p>How about if Len gets advice on how to prepare a leg of lamb for Korean bbq in his hidden $10,000 bathroom? Does that get us past New Year?</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 11:37:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>portal loo...</strong><br /><q>...secret hidden sex doors</q><br />Not just doors then, <br />but 'sexits', surely?</p><p>ensuite as....</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 11:32:58 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Dylan Reeve</title>
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						<p><q>There are two secret hidden sex doors in the Oval Office, both of which lead to secret hidden sex dungeons where various American presidents have engaged in secret hidden sex, sometimes with each other.</q></p><p>I bet Obama hides his <a href="http://hillbuzz.org/is-barack-obama-gay" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">gay lovers</a> in there.</p><p>Len probably doesn't even have any gay…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 11:30:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sam F</title>
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						If only they'd plumbed in a coffee machine this one might have lasted till Easter :)
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 11:29:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Andrew Geddis</title>
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						<p><q>I was hoping someone would say that. New Zealanders and their renovations &ndash; this could be the most contributed to thread in the history of PAS.</q></p><p>Auckland local body politics + outrage at the Herald + home renovations? I'd say Russell has hit the trifecta here ... .</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 11:25:41 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>$10K doesn’t get you much for a bathroom? We renovated our apartment’s bathroom for $4,500, took out the old crappy corner shower and put in a shower/bath, it looks sweet as! </q></p><p>No, it really doesn’t if you’re hiring professionals who will go to some effort to make sure the work…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 11:21:28 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						Len Brown might think he's cool but he's not. There are <em>two</em> secret hidden sex doors in the Oval Office, both of which lead to secret hidden sex dungeons where various American presidents have engaged in secret hidden sex, sometimes with each other. Auckland is strictly in the minor league.
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 10:53:49 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Nat Curnow</title>
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						<p><q>Anyone who has renovated their own home will know what a $10,000 bathroom looks like, and it don’t look like much.</q></p><p>If you are building a new bathroom in a converted space, with waterproof membranes, redirected plumbing, electrical, tiles, bog, basin etc,  and finished to a high standard ( it…</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q>Oh, and also: the reporter Cheryl Howie ursued Bevan Chuang for comment on the story. What did they expect she’d say?</q></p><p>Is there a Mayoral Election any time soon? I noticed Banks getting Kudos in the Herald over the last couple of weeks. That would explain this smear of Len.…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						Oh, and also: the reporter Cheryl Howie pursued Bevan Chuang for comment on the story. What did they expect she’d say?
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 10:21:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						Dirty Politics trainspotters will of course be aware that Brewer is a business partner of Carrick Graham, but may not be aware that <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=11308807" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Sharon Stewart is also mates with Slater</a>.
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 10:19:37 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q> this could be the most contributed to thread in the history of PAS.</q></p><p>Thanks for that ;) Maybe Len Brown will join in.</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q>By the comment “we renovated” I assume you did not pay commercial rates for builders (and joiners) and the ever lovely plumbers at 30-50$ per hour.  </q><br />This comment sounds so many shades of wrong.<br />FFS. Pick your budget. Go with that. Shop around. Not everyone needs to watch the Bloody…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 10:14:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Richard Wain</title>
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						Yep commercial rates for everyone. We didn't do the whole bathroom &ndash; like I said, the shower/bath
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 10:04:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>JC Carter</title>
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						By the comment "we renovated" I assume you did not pay commercial rates for builders (and joiners) and the ever lovely plumbers at 30-50$ per hour.  Or did you do the kiwi DIY?  20 years ago I used to price retrofit wet accessible bathrooms for 8-15K &ndash; a reasonable proportion…
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 09:56:29 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sam F</title>
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						<p><q>Anyone who has renovated their own home will know what a $10,000 bathroom looks like, and it don’t look like much.</q></p><p>You go with some jumped up Grey Lynn tiling procedure, you wear the results.</p>
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				<title>Sam F</title>
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						Councillor Brewer should relax – if his friend John Banks gets in next time the blackout curtains and wardrobe will be handy for hiding cheques he doesn’t want to see and dressing for helicopter rides which he won’t remember.
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<p><q>$10K doesn't get you much for a bathroom?</q></p><p>I was hoping someone would say that. New Zealanders and their renovations &ndash; this could be the most contributed to thread in the history of PAS.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 09:34:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Daphne Lawless</title>
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						<p>"Is this what you people got into journalism for?"</p><p>Money and attention? Yes, of course.</p>
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				<title>Ben Ross</title>
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						Meanwhile over at the Sunday Star Times on page 3..... [We have Judith]
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				<title>Richard Wain</title>
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						<p>$10K doesn't get you much for a bathroom? We renovated our apartment's bathroom for $4,500, took out the old crappy corner shower and put in a shower/bath, it looks sweet as! </p><p>With tiled walls too.</p>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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