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				<title>Bruce Thorpe</title>
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						<p>At best a paraphrase of Nick Cave "I do not believe in an interventionist God, but  believe in prayer." </p><p>I can get a very special feel about nature  in a very quiet bit of native forest, or near the top of a range of mountains,  but for me, desert does…</p>
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				<title>Mark Harris</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Kiwiblog is FOAMING!</p></blockquote><p>Now, while we can hardly regard the wingnuts at Kiwiblog as wholly representative of National's support base, they and the parties have done their damnedest to dumb down politics to their level of left/right simplicity. Sadly, the public have picked up on that (not helped by a…</p>
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				<title>James Green</title>
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						<p>In the 32nd year of the reign of Her Majesty Queen Victoria, <br />An Ordinance to incorporate the University of Otago</p><p>      WHEREAS it is expedient to promote sound learning in the Province of Otago in the Dominion of New Zealand and with that intent to establish and incorporate a University at…</p>
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				<title>Mark Harris</title>
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						<p>Hee hee hee</p><p>Kiwiblog is FOAMING!</p><p>My favourite (so far):</p><blockquote><p>#  big bruv (3279) Vote: Add rating 8  Subtract rating 2   Says:<br />April 7th, 2009 at 1:06 pm</p><p>Righto Neville Key, that is it as far as I am concerned.</p><p>Your time as leader of the National party has come…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>James Green</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Who owns the universities?<br />Who chooses the vice-chancellor?</p></blockquote><p>Universities are bodies corporate, governed by councils, comprising a minimum of 12 members, of which the Minister appoints 4 members. The council appoints the chief executive (the chancellor of vice?). I don't know how you might define ownership, but that appears a…</p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Ah, but that was back when there was some measurable ideological difference between the major parties. Now, not so much.</p></blockquote><p>On the evidence of the Bolger-Cullen dance of the chairmanships, it's hard to argue with you.</p>
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				<title>Mark Harris</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And if you look at NZ's post-war history the governments that tend to get chucked out after one term are the Labour ones.</p></blockquote><p>Ah, but that was back when there was some measurable ideological difference between the major parties. Now, not so much.</p>
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I have to say that Kassabova is a national treasure, or at least should be. She's in London now, I think?</p></blockquote><p>Edinburgh, AFAIK, though she was back in NZ briefly over summer.</p>
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				<title>ScottY</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I've got a harder question:<br />Who owns the universities?</p><p>The Government believes it does. The Universities disagree.</p></blockquote><p>Universities and other tertiary institutions are "Crown Entities" for the purposes of the Crown Entites Act 2004.</p><p>The Government wins.</p>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p>Oops, truncated link:</p><p><a href="http://www.listener.co.nz/issue/3375/features/3165/the_unbearable_lightness_of_being_english.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Kapka Kassabova &ndash; The unbearable lightness of being English</a></p>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I've got a harder question:<br />Who owns the universities?</p></blockquote><p>The Government believes it does. The Universities disagree.</p><p>Following the merger of VUW and the Wellington College of Education, the annual accounts of VUW received a qualified audit. The University looked at the additional property etc. it had received and recorded…</p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p>Rich, Universities are self-owning, in effect. To be more precise they're bodies corporate, but without shareholders. As close as they get is their Court of Convocation, membership of which is specified through statute.<br />The Court then approves the regulations that govern the rest of how the university is run. Since…</p>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>I've got a harder question:<br />Who owns the universities?<br />Who chooses the vice-chancellor?</p>
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				<title>81stcolumn</title>
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						<p>George &ndash; Don't ask, you may be disappointed.....</p><blockquote><p>I have always liked the idea of a 'Pro vice chancellor' but wonder if there are any "Anti vice chancellors"</p></blockquote><p>Geoff -Can we make nominations ?</p>
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				<title>Bodie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Too many people underestimate Key's political abilities.</p></blockquote><p>Don Brash nearly won an election so even plonkers can win elections. </p><p>Keys working hard , doing some slog but he's replacing some of the finest politicians in the world and bringing with him some of the worst. He wanted the job ,…</p>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Tolley was the incoming Minister of Tertiary Education who had to ask her officials "what is a vice-chancellor?".</p></blockquote><p>I have always liked the idea of a 'Pro vice chancellor' but wonder if there are any "Anti vice chancellors"</p>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I heard it, and I thought the same thing you did. Tolley didn't seem to know anything.</p></blockquote><p>Tolley was the incoming Minister of Tertiary Education who had to ask her officials "what is a vice-chancellor?".</p><p>This morning I'm going to ask my first year students, who have been at university…</p>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I so prefer the way they serve booze at many UK festivals.</p></blockquote><p>Tend to agree. First (and so far only) BDO I attended, I was ID'd by some control-freak state-trooper idiot who refused me a wristband on some spurius ground (I was 33, and look it). Went back five minutes…</p>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<p><em>Kapka Kassabova &ndash; The unbearable lightness of being English </em></p><p>The link didn't go through, but I have to say that Kassabova is a national treasure, or at least should be. She's in London now, I think?</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote>On the Nats, did anyone catch Katherine Ryan's interview with Anne Tolley about the new school assessment regime. Apparently, Tolley has no idea what data the MOE need, or what they are going to do with it once they get the (as yet unspecified) data. She's going to consult and…</blockquote>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I think the "dragnet" approach to underage drinking just displaces the problem. Kids still drink outside or smuggle booze in and adults can't get a beer without multiple lines.</p></blockquote><p><a href="http://www.listener.co.nz/issue/3375/features/3165/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Kapka Kassabova &ndash; The unbearable lightness of being English</a> (from the Listener, 2005)</p>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>I so prefer the way they serve booze at many UK festivals. The <a href="http://workersbeer.thewebbureaus2.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Workers Beer Company</a>, a trade union based co-op, provide quality beer and excellent service. And (at least some years ago; Blair/Brown may have stuffed this up) you could wander anywhere with your pint.</p><p>I think the "dragnet"…</p>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<blockquote><p>but I suspect most people realise there's little Key can do to mitigate the effects of the current global crisis.</p></blockquote><p>Then again, if unemployment was to reach 1992 levels (ie, double digits), or if the G7/G20 was to declare a sustainability trade war with us, public patience probably likely starts…</p>
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				<title>ScottY</title>
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						<p>Too many people underestimate Key's political abilities. He didn't become top dog by being weak and indecisive. But he can also work with other factions.The breathtaking speed in which he stitched up support deals with both ACT and the Maori Party after the election is proof of that. </p><p>This is…</p>
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				<title>Mikaere Curtis</title>
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						<p>Actually, I think Western Springs might be a good location for the BDO.  It has natural barriers (lakes, stream) and choke-points that would make securing the northern section of the park pretty straight forward. </p><p>Punters could go from the stadium to the field north of the lake, and isn't there…</p>
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				<title>Bodie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It's frankly absurd to think it's KEY that's taking National to defeat. He's probably the only bright light they have &ndash; it's his older Ministers that may take them to defeat if they gain true control of the policy agenda.</p></blockquote><p>The election was just over 4 months ago. The N.Z…</p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<blockquote><p>As for shifting the BDO to Wellington: oh god no! Homegrown was bad enough in terms of underage munterage staggering the street like an RTD-fuelled zombie apocalypse.</p></blockquote><p>You really don't see that at BDO. The checks at the entrance for illicit booze are pretty thorough, and your ID is scrutinised…</p>
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Be good to have more like this from Nandor you mean?</p></blockquote><p>Nandor has promoted a Sustainable/Unsustainable positioning instead of Left/Right for a while now.   It would make the Green's a much more realistic proposition I think. <br />Shame they lost him.</p>
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						<blockquote><p>"Can we build things on time, to budget?"</p><p>Project West Wind is due to deliver first electricity this month</p></blockquote><p>And many of the turbines can already be seen turning in the distance from Wellington hill suburbs. Even from a distance, they look a magnificent sight.</p><p>And wasn't Te Papa on…</p>
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						It's frankly absurd to think it's KEY that's taking National to defeat.  He's probably the only bright light they have &ndash; it's his older Ministers that may take them to defeat if they gain true control of the policy agenda.
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>As other Nats begin to realise he's taking them to defeat, they'll turn on him.</p></blockquote><p>So it was said about Muldoon, year in, year out, until it began to sound like whistling in the dark. Not that I'm suggesting even for a moment that there's any parallel.</p>
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						<p>I sincerely hope Mr Key begins to increase his influence &ndash; I'm now of the opinion that part of the deal to make him leader so quickly was that your Ryalls/Collins/Smiths/Brownlees got to push through their back-to-the-90s policies that they've been dying to reintroduce for the last 9 years. <br />I'm…</p>
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				<title>ScottY</title>
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						<blockquote><p>As other Nats begin to realise he's taking them to defeat, they'll turn on him. They always do. And English will be there to, reluctantly, pick up Caesar's laurel wreath after the rest have finished knifing John-boy.</p></blockquote><p>A prediction or wishful thinking?</p><p>I would be surprised if that came true.…</p>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I feel like flying home and picketing parliament</p></blockquote><p>Good to see new voices joining the debate.</p>
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						Central Plains Water &ndash; <a href="http://norightturn.blogspot.com/2009/04/victory-for-environment.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">great news</a>.
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				<title>Idiot Savant</title>
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						<blockquote><p>and then  Two wind farm projects mothballed and another goes ahead despite  an All Black apparently.</p></blockquote><p>Well, Mt Cass was an environmental dog anyway, while Puketoi has a good chance in the Environment Court.</p><p>meanwhile, Central Plains Water has been told to go drown themselves.  Score!</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 23:53:09 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Hugh Good</title>
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						<p>Although I would never vote for the Nats out of principle, I wasn't overwhelmingly negative about them winning the last GE cos thought maybe a fresh perspective, Labours looking a bit tired had a good run etc. </p><p>How wrong I was.... they seem so smug n self satisfied and are…</p>
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				<title>Mark Harris</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Agree. If it comes down to Key v English then English will be the loser, unless Key really loses the plot.</p></blockquote><p>Because there's no way Key can achieve the stuff he's promising, in this CEC. As other Nats begin to realise he's taking them to defeat, they'll turn on him.…</p>
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						Opinion polling would suggest otherwise.
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				<title>Tony Parker</title>
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						I'm just thinking that about now some who voted National might have those immortal words of Johnny Rotten "Ever get the feeling you've just been had." running through their head. Especially if you earn less than $48000 a year.
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				<title>ScottY</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But why would it be Key losing any internal battle, rather than English?</p></blockquote><p>Agree. If it comes down to Key v English then English will be the loser, unless Key really loses the plot.</p><blockquote><p>It's not like the Nats actually have ideology to hold them together, any more than Labour.…</p></blockquote>
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						Be good to have more like <a href="http://rasnandor.blogspot.com/2009/01/there-was-never-better-time-for-greens.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this from Nandor</a> you mean?
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The only outfit in the house that actually has a semi-consistent ideology (whether you agree with them or not) is the Greens.</p></blockquote><p>Yes, but isn't politics also about flexibility, suppleness, willingness to accommodate other perspectives?  When did the Greens last admit that they were wrong  or misguided about anything?  At…</p>
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						But why would it be Key losing any internal battle, rather than English?
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				<title>Mark Harris</title>
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						<blockquote><p>You reckon?</p></blockquote><p>Pretty much. It's not like the Nats actually have ideology to hold them together, any more than Labour. Therefore their capability to hold the Treasury benches depends on their collegiality and ability to work together. Yeah, right.</p><p>The only outfit in the house that actually has a semi-consistent…</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						Post. AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH
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				<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:49:33 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p>Or to put it another way.<br />"You'r either with us or you're with the [insert name of marginalised group here]<br />I really must remember to finish writing before I hit</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						I meant to add. About almost anything controversial.
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<blockquote> Doesn't mean that there's no danger but, like the calls of terrorism, it's very hard to quantify or challenge official ZOMG pronouncements, without getting tarred with the same brush.</blockquote>Nail hit on head. so, so true.
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm doubting that Mr Key will see out his term...</p></blockquote><p>You reckon?</p><blockquote><p>I wonder just what one would have to do to lose one's ministerial warrant.</p></blockquote><p>Perhaps Judy may be able to shed some light...</p>
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				<title>Mark Harris</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I've heard more than once from other journalists that English isn't a believer on the broadband project.</p></blockquote><p>I'm doubting that Mr Key will see out his term...</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>In the absence of a better place for it, and given the disjointed nature of the opening post, a study of online sexual predators has shot down a bunch of myths</p></blockquote><p>That's really fascinating. And that's just the article. I'll read the report tonight if I get time, but the…</p>
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						<blockquote>In the absence of a better place for it, and given the disjointed nature of the opening post, a study of online sexual predators has shot down a bunch of myths. Including that posting pictures of kids online encourages stalking. It's also very, very murky as to whether or not…</blockquote>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						And news recently to hand, <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10565550" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Richard Worth won't be sacked</a>, says that nice Mr Key. I wonder just what one <em>would</em>  have to do to lose one's ministerial warrant.
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						<p>Lets say that 40,000 people rock on up to NH Stadium for a BDO.</p><p>Roughly 10,000 would come from the Shore or further north or out west where they would use the lovely upper harbour highway (and once complete it will connect to the end of the north western... works…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Woo, the back gate</p></blockquote><p>Great train impression, Matthew.</p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						Woo, the back gate. For events like the Big Day Out, the only entrance is the front one.
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						<p>The station is about 10 minutes from the back gate of Mt Smart, as opposed to the Beasley Ave route that google uses.</p><p>Also, I just find it amusing that so many sports supporters are corpulent sofa dwellers. (UK soccer is the worst for this!)</p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						In the absence of a better place for it, and given the disjointed nature of the opening post, <a href="http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/04/study-tracks-changing-profile-of-online-sexual-predators.ars" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">a study of online sexual predators</a> has shot down a bunch of myths. Including that posting pictures of kids online encourages stalking. It's also very, very murky as to whether or not…
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				<title>Judy Callingham</title>
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						Even Labour supporters have friends in strange places, Tom!
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						I was going to say, that time..
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Forbes-Coates v2.0 release notes: largely unchanged from v1.0, but now available on Twitter, Facebook, and RSS.</p></blockquote><p>That was so postmodern.</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Hi Judy,</p><blockquote><p>Ah, but this assumes that Key and English are playing for the same team. Insider gossip suggests that the divide is as great as ever between the offices of the PM and Deputy PM. What better way to keep your face and name in the public eye than…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p>Slarty:</p><blockquote><p>So I agree, NZ is not conducive to big infrastructure projects, but the root cause is the attitude that assumes failure from the start, not any innate lack of ability.</p></blockquote><p>Too true. Think Big gave state-led investment a bad name, and Fay Richwhite &amp; Equiticorp gave private capital a bad name.…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>The reason we think we are crap is because we persist in thinking and behaving like we are crap.</p></blockquote><p>And so we get the government we deserve?</p><blockquote><p>Project West Wind is due to deliver first electricity this month</p></blockquote><p>and then <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&amp;objectid=10565444 " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> Two wind farm projects mothballed</a> and another goes ahead…</p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And not to labour the point, but people will go and watch an 80 minute rugby game, but 5 minutes walk to the car is quite enough exercise, thank you?</p></blockquote><p>Yes, pretty much. The spectators aren't the ones on the field. And once you've spent 20 minutes getting out of…</p>
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				<title>ScottY</title>
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						<blockquote>Ah, but this assumes that Key and English are playing for the same team. Insider gossip suggests that the divide is as great as ever between the offices of the PM and Deputy PM. What better way to keep your face and name in the public eye than to constantly…</blockquote>
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						<blockquote><p>Mt Smart is only 10 minutes walk from Penrose Station &ndash; haven't you people got legs?</p></blockquote><p>10 minutes? YFR! It's 1.5km, which would equate to a walking speed of 9km/h. That's a moderate jog, not any kind of walk.</p>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						Judy, As they say on the Antiques Roadshow, provenance can increase the value of anything exponentially including gossip... So immortal words of an Antiques Roadshow expert, "firstly tell me a little about how you came to possess this nugget of insider gossip???"
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				<title>Judy Callingham</title>
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						<p><em>Moving on, don't you think Clark and Cullen would have been ripped to shreds if they'd been as far off-message with each other as Key and English are with respect to economic recovery? Or even the cycleway?</em></p><p>Ah, but this assumes that Key and English are playing for the same…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>quite a walk from the stadium</p></blockquote><p>And not to labour the point, but people will go and watch an 80 minute rugby game, but 5 minutes walk to the car is quite enough exercise, thank you?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Can we build things on time, to budget?</p></blockquote><p><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/wellington/2313563/Turbine-towers-powering-up" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Project West Wind is due to deliver first electricity this month</a></p>
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				<title>Brickley Paiste</title>
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						<p>I agree that it would be a shame if the Warriors were to move to Eden Park.  Mt Smart is earthy and has a nice vibe to it.  <br />And, as you pointed out, it's in the area where league is most popular &mdash; and it's cheap, too.  However, I'm not…</p>
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						<p>Mt Smart is only 10 minutes walk from Penrose Station &ndash; haven't you people got legs?</p><p>(ISTR that the trains stop before the end of BDO, though. Which is nothing to do with the line?)</p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p>slarty, how long did it take to build the upgraded national transmission system through the Waikato? Oh, that's right, it hasn't even been started yet!</p><p>Can we build things on time, to budget? Sure we can. Once we've spent years studying it to death, planning for every last eventuality, and…</p>
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				<title>Angus Robertson</title>
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						The BDO might be better off relocating to Wellington.
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<blockquote><p>a new station at Morice Road was proposed for Mt Smart.</p></blockquote><p>Once the Onehunga branch line is completed, and it's certainly looking very "done" at the moment, moving large volumes of people by train for events at Mt Smart becomes very do-able indeed. The line runs within 500m of the…</p>
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				<title>slarty</title>
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						<blockquote><p>is not conducive to attempting any such thing on such a tight deadline</p></blockquote><p>Couldn't agree more.</p><p>As a wise man once said, "<a href="If you want your boomerang to come back, first you&#039;ve got to throw it">http://www.lyricstime.com/charlie-drake-my-boomerang-wont-come-back-lyrics.html</a>"</p><p>So where are all these recent infrastructure failures? That's right, there's sod all, but…</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I just don't believe that getting to the North Shore is the traffic abomination most people make it out to be, although admittedly this arose as a train of thought for me re RWC stadium discussions</p></blockquote><p>I think RWC is an OK comparison for a full stadium.  At North Harbour,…</p>
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						<p>Matthew, I'm certainly not proposing that North Harbour is preferrable to Mt Smart.  Simply that if Mt Smart was removed it wouldn't be as horribly awful as some believe.  Although putting the Warriors there would be... absurd? death knell? pointless?</p><p>This is partly an overhang from the RWC discussions when…</p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<blockquote><p>the Opera House &ndash; after all, that was only delivered 10 years late at 14 times the cost</p></blockquote><p>When the end goal is to have the Opera House, does it matter if it's horribly late and terribly over-budget? No, it doesn't. With the waterfront stadium, though, the end goal (pardon…</p>
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				<title>slarty</title>
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						<blockquote><p><em>Perhaps we should have ordered up that waterfront stadium after all.</em></p><p>No shit. It was always a good idea.</p><p><em> Except that NZ's chronic inability to build anything of significance on schedule </em></p></blockquote><p>I loved the idea. Every morning I gaze from the ferry at two piers of run down…</p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						Gareth, the two largest constituent cities in Greater Auckland are south of the Bridge. The second-largest is south of Mt Smart, with the stadium being on the south side of the largest. That alone gives it centrality to the population that North Harbour severely lacks, especially when you look at…
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						<blockquote><p>No, I mean the Harbour Bridge, funnily enough.</p></blockquote><p>Christ, like pulling teeth... </p><p>The bridge itself isn't the issue most people make it to be &ndash; it's huge and just another piece of motorway.  And while it's a single chokepoint for those coming from the South or East, the pretty large…</p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<blockquote><p><em>Perhaps we should have ordered up that waterfront stadium after all.</em></p><p>No shit. It was always a good idea.</p></blockquote><p>Except that NZ's chronic inability to build <strong>anything</strong> of significance on schedule meant that it would've been finished around 2013. We'd have been a global laughing stock. It would also have…</p>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<p>North Harbour stadium? I would doubt it would last five minutes running a music festival before some God-fearing shore denizen with a massive sense of entitlement got the whole thing shut down for noise.</p><p><br />That is one of the beauties of Mt Smart &ndash; it is in the middle of…</p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<blockquote><p>This may be sacrilege but is it compulsary to hold BDO in Auckland?</p></blockquote><p>Pretty much, yes. In a word: population. A quarter of the country's population live in the same city. Trying to shift venue would require massive logistical coordination to get the same number of punters through the gates.…</p>
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				<title>Morgan Nichol</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Perhaps we should have ordered up that waterfront stadium after all.</p></blockquote><p>No shit. It was always a good idea.</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<blockquote>It's Knowedge Bro, :-D </blockquote>But not enough Knowledge to spell his/her own name, eh?
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				<title>Knowledge Bro</title>
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						<blockquote><p>* on the bus to the 2008 BDO, I overheard the following conversation;</p><p>Q. Why do they call it Mt. Smart?<br />A. Because only intelligent people are allowed to go there!</p></blockquote><p>It's Knowedge Bro, :-D</p>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						<p>This may be sacrilege but is it compulsary to hold BDO in Auckland?  My experience of Mt. Smart* is that it is one damn ugly place but I guess you aren't looking for scenery at such events.  Western Springs would be good.</p><ul><li>on the bus to the 2008 BDO,…</li></ul>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<blockquote><p>crossing the Harbour Bridge.</p><p>You mean that up-to-5-lane, largest piece of motorway we have?</p></blockquote><p>No, I mean the Harbour Bridge, funnily enough.</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>North Harbour stadium could be made to work well with a range of noise-insulatable sites surounding a central spot for a main stage. But as others have said security would be the issue, but not impossible.</p></blockquote><p>It's not my favourite venue, but it probably is the next practical choice after…</p>
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						Busway? Do you mean concrete thing between Takapuna and North Harbour Stadium? Oh I see, it's all about you isn't it?  ;-)
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						<blockquote><p>crossing the Harbour Bridge.</p></blockquote><p>You mean that up-to-5-lane, largest piece of motorway we have?</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Certainly no need to drive.</p></blockquote><p>Since when has lack of need stopped us exercising our god-given right to drive everywhere?</p>
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				<title>Roger</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Every Munter from Bluff to Herne Bay crossing the Harbour Bridge. Now that would be a Big Day Out on Spaghetti junction.</p></blockquote><p>What?  </p><p>With the Stadium being adjacent to the end of the new busway, transport from town could not be easier. Certainly no need to drive.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Big Day Out on Spaghetti junction</p><p>Hey, there's an idea. Well they were willing to consider closing off the motorway for the V8s to do their thing..</p></blockquote><p>You could do both at the same time. Think of the reality TV opportunities.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Big Day Out on Spaghetti junction</p></blockquote><p>Hey, there's an idea.  Well they were willing to consider closing off the motorway for the V8s to do their thing..</p>
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						Simultaneous postings are strangely reassuring..
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						<blockquote><p>North Harbour stadium could be made to work well</p></blockquote><p>One word: transport.</p>
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						<blockquote>North Harbour stadium </blockquote>Yeah Right. Every Munter from Bluff to Herne Bay crossing the Harbour Bridge. Now that would be a Big Day Out on Spaghetti junction. ;-)
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						<blockquote><p>Trying to control access to either Ellerslie or Cornwall Park or The Domain? Forget it.</p></blockquote><p>Ah yes, I hadn't thought of that.</p>
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				<title>Alastair Jamieson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Had, in some parallel world, Sarah Palin entered the office of vice-president, things would have been mighty entertaining about now.</p></blockquote><blockquote><p>Bristol will now, allegedly, focus on "advocating abstinence".</p></blockquote><p>cf. <a href="http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/03/obama-returns-berlin-urges-end-nukes/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Obama and nukes</a></p>
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				<title>Roger</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And if Mt Smart was to be levelled, wherefore the Big Day Out? I can't think of another suitable venue.</p></blockquote><p>North Harbour stadium could be made to work well with a range of noise-insulatable sites surounding a central spot for a main stage.  But as others have said security would…</p>
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				<title>Bodie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The Nats won the election by appealing to the middle. I suspect Key knows that if he lets Hide loose it would be political suicide.</p></blockquote><p>They won by reducing the labour vote by 5% and keeping NZ first out by a voting change of 1%.....</p><p> W.P was forced to run…</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<blockquote>wherefore the Big Day Out? I can't think of another suitable venue. </blockquote>Western Springs. Have the "Expensive" acts in the stadium and have freebies throughout the park paid for by concession stands and the new fangled super city (that might mean forgoing getting Beckham out here to kick a few…
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p>Surely it is no surprise that a Finance Minister is more cautious than their PM? I realise there are historical reasons to look for a rift in this particular relationship, and I guess whether that is a real problem is a matter of degree. </p><p>Even Clark and Cullen would have…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>In 1999/2000, or after starting a fourth term?</p></blockquote><p>At any time, I'd think. There would be talk of daylight opening up between them, etc ...</p><blockquote><p>Also, Sarah Palin's ethics invesigation, news, I suppose. Sarah Palin's family is not news, but gossip</p></blockquote><p>Given the laborious construction of the family identity for…</p>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Moving on, don't you think Clark and Cullen would have been ripped to shreds if they'd been as far off-message with each other as Key and English are with respect to economic recovery?</p></blockquote><p>In 1999/2000, or after starting a fourth term?</p><blockquote><p>Had, in some parallel world, Sarah Palin entered the…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						It costs around $150 to go to the BDO.  Trying to control access to either Ellerslie or Cornwall Park or The Domain? Forget it.
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						I like BDO at te Domain.  If they fairly schedule and locate music other than rock.
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Hooten on RNZ not a big fan of Hide's capped rates idea. No link yet.
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<blockquote><p>BDO at the Ellerslie Racecourse?</p></blockquote><p>Or Cornwall Park? </p><p>Or even better the Domain, which would have the adavantage that the party could spill easily into the city, or indeed run on a more adult 4pm-4am timeframe rather than in the heat and brightness of the day.</p><p>It doesn't really *need*…</p>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						Should everything head that way, could you have the BDO out the Ellerslie Racecourse? That'd be fairly sizeable.
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				<title>Peter Darlington</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'd be willing to bet that in a year's time, the only trace we'll see of the national cycleway will be a suspicious absence of local body funding for everyday cycling initiatives, as local bodies are asked to pay for their own section of the mighty path.</p></blockquote><p>It may be…</p>
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				<title>JackElder</title>
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						And so our Glorious National Cycleway limps slowly back into obscurity.  I'd be willing to bet that in a year's time, the only trace we'll see of the national cycleway will be a suspicious absence of local body funding for everyday cycling initiatives, as local bodies are asked to pay…
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				<title>ScottY</title>
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						<p>I'm no fan of the current government, but I don't think we should compare them with the Bush administration just yet. </p><p>Hide is like a angry dog tied to a pole. He'll make a lot of noise and frighten a lot of people, but unless the rope breaks no-one will…</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>First there's another, albeit minor, ethics investigation.</p></blockquote><p>As the basis for an ethics investigation, that really has to be the most stupid little thing.</p><p>Do they not have enough to do up there in Alaska?</p>
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				<title>johnno</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And Agenda may be back on our screens after all.</p></blockquote><p>... get rid of Garner and replace him with Linda Clark, and they might have something going there.  And Sean can forget it as well.</p><p>In reality, I'd be surprised if 3 go ahead with this.  The NZOA funding doesn't…</p>
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				<title>simon g</title>
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						<p>Re- rates, cycleways, three strikes, seabeds and pretty much everything else.</p><p>John Key's mentor is that popular Inuit philosopher, Havalookat.</p><p><em>"So, Prime Minister, David Garrett has proposed waterboarding for jaywalkers."</em></p><p><em>"Yeah, we'll have a look at that ..."</em></p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						And Agenda <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv/2315613/TV3s-plan-to-unseat-Q-A" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">may be back</a> on our screens after all.
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						It's just <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxpayer_Bill_of_Rights" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">TABOR</a> in a portfolio he controls, surely? I guess C&R in Auckland City have already proved you can get away politically with underinvesting and holding rates down.
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				<title>Robert Fox</title>
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						<blockquote><p>We know what that did for Maggie Thatcher's political career.<quote></p><p>Thatcher started  her vendetta aginst local government with rate capping then moved on to the poll tax.  Hopefully Hide's ridiculous  politiacl career will end before he inflicts the sort of civil disaster that cost Thatcher hers.</p>
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						Rodney further "humoured" by being <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&amp;objectid=10565141" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">put in charge</a> of de-fanging the Commerce Commission.
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<p>ScottY &ndash; People say that John " Rainbows and Unicorns" Key is also just humouring the ACT party with the whole three strikes business. How long, then, until it is time for National to deliver or Rodney and rest of his lunatics throw their toys? </p><p>My growing suspicion is Key…</p>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p>I suspect if rates are capped, or otherwise abolished, about the only other avenue for council revenue would be a poll tax. We know <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/march/31/newsid_2530000/2530763.stm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">what that did for Maggie Thatcher's political career</a>.</p><p>On a lighter note, here's <a href="http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,1768,the_instant_anim%C3%A9_attitude.sm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">some new stuff on OurTube</a>.</p>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						I really feel like I know the Palins. They seem so similar to some of the people I hung out with in Texas. If it weren't for her complete ignorance of, well, everything, and her perilous closeness to being in charge of something hugely important, I might almost be fond…
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						<p>Unfortunately the waterfront stadium would have the same problem as Rattue's point about a league crowd of only 10-20k being a lonely one at Eden Park.  Worse I imagine. <br />But yes, the amplified Carlaw Park now seems like it would have been a lovely vision of planning, no?  Good size,…</p>
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						<p>I'm sure this will be one of those things Key and English just humour Rodney on.</p><p>"Yes, a very interesting paper on rates-capping, Rodney. Well done! Yes of course we'll read it. Now off you go and sit in the corner like a good support partner."</p><p>Hide is nuts if…</p>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<p>Another day, another step closer to New Zealand repeating the Bush years in font size 6.</p><p>The similarity in the dynamics is getting downright scary.</p>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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