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				<title>Stephen Doyle</title>
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						I suspect that we're driven by economists and accountants who work in 3 month cycles, totally focused on the short term, bottom right hand corner.
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						Thank you, that does make more sense.
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				<title>Dismal Soyanz</title>
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						For financial institutions, typically there will be an “Asian” centre (usually one of HK, Tokyo or Singapore) which will be responsible for book trading from the close of NY to the opening of London – which I assume is what he means by Asian time zone.
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				<title>stephen clover</title>
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						<p><q>Hence my reaction: It doesn’t make any sense.</q></p><p>Or more precisely, it employs the sort of clumsy, generalist, quasi-offensive colonial Euro-centric perspective of an "Asian" "other" which you may well be conditioned to come to expect from a young, globe-trotting banker.</p>
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						<p><q>Not sure whether you are being facetious</q></p><p>Not at all. You may well be right about what the job involved, but even if it was limited to the major markets of East and Southeast Asia, that's still more than one time zone, and the markets of the Middle East and…</p>
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				<title>Dismal Soyanz</title>
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						<p>Not sure whether you are being facetious – it’s hard to read expression through font.</p><p>Most likely he’s talking about being the head of a desk that had responsibility for executing those types of trades through the times that the Asian markets were open before passing it off to the…</p>
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				<title>Jack Harrison</title>
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						<p>National have always paraded themselves as the party of decency, in a sense because conservative N.Z wants decency. </p><p>Yet if anything the hacks are a painful document of what many political observers knew to be true. This is still a small country. People talk. The National Party are hated by…</p>
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						<p><q> where I was responsible for the risk management of all derivative products in <strong>the Asian time zone</strong>.” </q></p><p>But that just doesn't make any sense! At all! Or do these banker types live in an entirely different world with all its geography creatively rearranged?</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q> <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/10462324/Stormy-debate-puts-National-on-back-foot" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> Heckling and some torrid questioning from opponents led National’s Wairarapa candidate to question whether his audience had any sense during an often-stormy election debate in Masterton.</a> </q></p><p>Interesting to note that National's Alastair Scott has a similar background to Key: <br />"In 1994 I transferred to Tokyo and joined the global…</p>
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				<title>simon g</title>
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						<p><q>I'm hoping at least one bloody journalist will push Key on whether he intends to see out the entire term if re-elected.</q></p><p>Yet another example of the "same-same" line being arrant nonsense. When Clark was PM she was asked this question by media constantly. One David Farrar blogged about it…</p>
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				<title>Michael Savidge</title>
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						<p><q>Back in NZ, I think Key's lack of strategic smarts is starting to show, and that gives me hope he'll be out of the picture soon-ish. The big question is who comes next. </q></p><p>I'm hoping at least one bloody journalist will push Key on whether he intends to see out…</p>
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						No worries. I could've been clearer about what I meant.
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<p><q>I suspect chess and similar games were invented precisely to teach kids the kind of strategic thinking they’d need for careers in government and/or the military.</q></p><p>My chess game has improved quite a bit since I started attempting to apply military tactical thinking to it, for what that's worth (I'm…</p>
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				<title>Trevor Nicholls</title>
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						<p><q>As for chess, when it first entered the thread I took it purely as metaphor, but I think it's a valuable one</q></p><p>I may have taken an earlier remark of yours the wrong way. Sorry if that was the case.</p>
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						<p><q>Well Russia would certainly be improved if Kasparov were elected, instead of being (quite rightly) too scared to return.</q></p><p>Trouble for him is Putin is no slouch at the long-term game, either.</p><p>Back in NZ, I think Key's lack of strategic smarts is starting to show, and that gives me…</p>
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				<title>Hebe</title>
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						<p><q>“When dissonance is present, in addition to trying to reduce it, the person will actively avoid situations and information which would likely increase the dissonance”</q></p><p>Yep that. And the stress face.  I was going to peg it as cognitive dissonance but  have not got any more than a sketchy understanding…</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>The lack of chess players at the higher levels of politics is generally quite worrying.</q></p><p>Well Russia would certainly be improved if Kasparov were elected, instead of being (quite rightly) too scared to return.</p>
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				<title>Trevor Nicholls</title>
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						<p><q>Key certainly is not one, and for that I am glad</q><br />I don't want him to play chess, I want him to think beyond the current news cycle. I've never seen any evidence that he is capable of doing so.</p><p><q>Did Cunliffe fire back with ".."</q><br />He might have, but…</p>
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						<p><q>that our PM is not a “chess player”</q></p><p>Yes! The lack of chess players at the higher levels of politics is generally quite worrying. Key certainly is not one, and for that I am glad.</p><p><q>“It’s not my job to talk about Labour’s stupid policy…”</q></p><p>Did Cunliffe fire back with…</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>No, it’s not, but he’s been talking about nothing else all day.</q></p><p>Which is actually really quite poor strategy. He could be talking about National's policy, if there was anything to talk openly about. This is pretty much allowing Labour to set the agenda.</p>
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				<title>Trevor Nicholls</title>
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						<p><q>All he is good at is putting Labour down</q></p><p>"It's not my job to talk about Labour's stupid policy..."<br />No, it's not, but he's been talking about nothing else all day.</p>
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				<title>Trevor Nicholls</title>
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						<p><q>Nor would I call that stupidity. What you described is a kind of intelligence. I certainly wouldn't turn to the prime minister for a discussion on ethics or history, but he has a kind of smarts and he's good at what he does</q></p><p>All of which is agreed. But it's…</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q> But you don’t get as high up in Merrill Lynch as he did by being that stupid.</q></p><p>The man is a con artist. Those types have the ability to <strong>con</strong> vince you that they care. They are <strong>artists</strong> at  convincing you they know the answer to your needs. They convince…</p>
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						You want to know if he’s thick? He’s <a href="http://icwdm.org/wildlife/bat/batguano.asp" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this thick</a>
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				<title>andin</title>
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						<p><q>that’s just a slip of the tongue because he’s a nice self-made hard-working kindy-goofy guy who’d be a great mate to have and not at all a professional back-stabbing hyper-intelligent sociopath capable of long-game scams and deceits for the benefit of his very small monkeysphere.</q><br />There is so often a…</p>
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						<p><q>I wouldn’t call that hyper-intelligence.</q></p><p>Nor would I call that stupidity. What you described is a kind of intelligence. I certainly wouldn't turn to the prime minister for a discussion on ethics or history, but he has a kind of smarts and he's good at what he does. Gotta be…</p>
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				<title>Trevor Nicholls</title>
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						<p><q>you don’t get as high up in Merrill Lynch as he did by being that stupid</q></p><p>Some people are street-smart, self-focussed, and quick to leverage every opportunity for their own benefit. I wouldn't call that hyper-intelligence.</p>
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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						<p><q>Nice summary Tussock, but I’ve never considered Key to be “hyper-intelligent”. Quite the opposite, in fact. Have I misjudged the man</q></p><p>Never make the mistake of thinking he is stupid. He cultivates the persona, as tussock so eloquently points out. But you don’t get as high up in Merrill Lynch…</p>
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				<title>Alfie</title>
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						<p><q>he's a nice self-made hard-working kindy-goofy guy who'd be a great mate to have and not at all a professional back-stabbing hyper-intelligent sociopath capable of long-game scams and deceits for the benefit of his very small monkeysphere.</q><br />Nice summary Tussock, but I've never considered Key to be "hyper-intelligent". Quite the…</p>
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				<title>tussock</title>
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						<q>Is it all too big, too complex for people to understand? Do they refuse to believe that level of systemic and sustained wrongdoing could exist in New Zealand? Do they not care? Do they despise Hager so much that they cannot hear or see what he is saying? Have they…</q>
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				<title>Dismal Soyanz</title>
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						I thought he left yesterday (IIRC so said NatRad news).
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						<p><q>So what happened to all the righteous anger about the asset sales? </q></p><p>It's still simmering, Graham.</p>
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				<title>Graham Dunster</title>
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						So what happened to all the righteous anger about the asset sales? Nary a mention these days.
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						Black helicopters are go.
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>Would he need that much security?</q></p><p>I have accidentally talked to right wing Americans about the UN ... man ... step back from the crazy person ...</p><p>So yeah UN gets a LOT of haters</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q> Sec Gen of the UN</q><br /><a href="http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=48629#.VAfrcWSSxVo" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Trout fishing near Taupo</a> yesterday?</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						Would he need that much security?
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>who is in town</q></p><p>Sec Gen of the UN</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						10 motorcycle cops, 6 police cars.  2 white buses with blacked out windows. Lights flashing, traffic stopped, to let this motorcade through Mt Eden Village heading into the city. Does anyone know who is in town? AK town? And would need that much security?
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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						<p>This bears repeating:</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1LLsw1lcuA" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1LLsw1lcuA</a></p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q> then a dog walks through the picture. Perfect.</q></p><p>Well, we just got back from her Doctor who has to come out to the car because Stella wont go in there and it seems she is still ok. She isn't in pain yet.  so ,off North this weekend for r and…</p>
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				<title>Richard Aston</title>
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						<p><q>But I digress</q></p><p>Digress away Sofie its like I am trying to looking at this huge picture byzantine in its complexity, then a dog walks through the picture. Perfect.</p>
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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						Oh, most definitely and in minute detail. And I'd say that whether it was Collins or Cunliffe under the gun. This just is not the way elected officials should behave.
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						But something that should definitely be investigated, no?
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						Only if money passed to a person at Cabinet level. If they just paid Slater to pass it on through his channel to Collins, that's "just" lobbying.
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						Daft question time. Do the documents in the Jordan Williams @whaledump today point to the possibility that policy changes in Cabinet were bought?
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				<title>Balance</title>
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						<p>Off-topic, however, for those that may be interested...</p><p><a href="http://www.reddit.com/r/newzealand/comments/2fenj9/internet_party_leader_laila_harr%C3%A9_ama/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Live Now: Laila Harré Reddit AMA</a></p>
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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						And he’s back at <a href="https://twitter.com/whaledump2" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">@whaledump2</a> which I/S reports has been verified by Nippert.
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						Of course. She's a sharing caring kinda gal.
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				<title>Cecelia</title>
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						I can still see Whaledump. My ISP disguises IP address???? Technically ignorant but ... Netflix etc.
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				<title>Cecelia</title>
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						And she wears the right colour scarf:)
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						Well that's good. Otherwise she would have secrets and  I'd have to have words with her.
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>So I’m now hoping you live in the same St as us.</q></p><p>Yes we do. Just a bit further down. And the digression is good for my soul at least and others can just skip over it.</p>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>Take a crumb of comfort from the Nixon analogies: his approval rating was 60% around the time of Watergate, and it took a long time to make a dent in that, but history has not exactly judged him kindly.</q></p><p>On the other hand, the Internet was still a military research…</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>it’s tough for even a whale sized little fish to swim against the tide of corporate interest.</q><br />and the white-baiting season has just begun...</p>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<q>I think that we have here the opposite of the “big lie” (of which “someone” once said, if it’s a big enough lie then no one will believe you could have told such an un-truth, and so they’ll believe you)—we have the “big truth"…it’s a big enough truth, and has…</q>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q>I love the way she just wanders around the end of our street as if she owns the place. Happy to interact with people, but not obsequious. Just checking out her domain</q></p><p>So I'm now hoping you live in the same St as us. She has a few friends and…</p>
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				<title>Alison Cunningham</title>
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						Whaledump seems to have been deactivated &ndash; it's tough for even a whale sized little fish to swim against the tide of corporate interest.
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>Ummm …. err …. wow …..</p><p><a href="http://networkonnet.wordpress.com/2014/09/03/the-ministry-of-education-and-whale-oil-an-introduction/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://networkonnet.wordpress.com/2014/09/03/the-ministry-of-education-and-whale-oil-an-introduction/</a> </q></p><p>It’s all really depressing. Somehow we’ve become a society where it’s OK to bully people into to doing what they passionately believe is wrong. Where bullying is rewarded with power. Where victims are blamed.</p><p>I get that people have different ideologies and I…</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>Stella is the best lil’ dog in the whole wide world ;)</q></p><p>I love the way she just wanders around the end of our street as if she owns the place. Happy to interact with people, but not obsequious. Just checking out her domain</p>
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				<title>Kracklite</title>
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						<p><q>The post-war cathedral is pretty cool though.</q></p><p>Coincidentally, the architect of the cathedral, Basil Spence, was brought in to design the Beehive (though the story goes that he did a few drawings and the MoW did most of the work).</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>making numbers work for us…</strong><br />Now it transpires that <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/policies/10457384/Paratas-higher-teacher-figures-don-t-add-up" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Hekia Parata may have been wrong…</a><br /><q> Education Minister Hekia Parata has been forced to abandon a claim that National has presided over a 15 per cent increase in teachers – <strong>after revelations that Novopay clouded the numbers.</strong><br />Parata has been quoted…</q></p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q>Stella is a character.</q></p><p>Stella <em>is</em> the best lil’ dog in the whole wide world ;)<br />Shes  just getting older. I like to think wiser .And yes you are right Bart, she's relevant.</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>Ian’s been, “sent to Coventry” over that comment.</q><br />Having a good time, wish you were here…</p><p>;-  )</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>Ummm …. err …. wow ….</q><br />This is the new 'governance' paradigm &ndash; all systems are there to be 'gamed' &ndash; it seems to be the only way forward &ndash; and it tends to make everyone complicit.<br />National is all about sharing the guilt, but not the wealth.</p><p>...and let's…</p>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						<p>I have friends who live in Coventry, one was the local Labour councilor who quit (the party) over Blair's descent into war and devilry, but yes the city suffered more than its share of WW2 bombing</p><p>And don't forget all the wonderful ska that came from there .....</p>
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				<title>Lucy Telfar Barnard</title>
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						<p><q>Though I hear Coventry is nice this time of year…</q><br />Coventry is not nice at any time of year. It's a boghole. I've heard it described as "the armpit of England".<br />The post-war cathedral is pretty cool though.</p><p><q>Also, tenders are evil when you’re a buyer. </q><br />I agree Izogi -…</p>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						<p>Ummm .... err .... wow .....</p><p><a href="http://networkonnet.wordpress.com/2014/09/03/the-ministry-of-education-and-whale-oil-an-introduction/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://networkonnet.wordpress.com/2014/09/03/the-ministry-of-education-and-whale-oil-an-introduction/</a></p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>House of the rising shun...</strong><br /><q>Pity ostracism isnt used anymore</q><br />Though I hear Coventry is nice this time of year...</p>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						I think people have a lot invested in a certain world view (that John Key is a nice man, that generally people/our leaders are decent and want to do the right thing, etc).  It’s difficult to challenge because it effectively means they have to admit they’re wrong, and aren’t as…
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				<title>stever@cs.waikato.ac.nz</title>
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						<p>Yes, thanks Russell, and also Hebe.</p><p>I think that we have here the opposite of the "big lie" (of which "someone" once said, if it's a big enough lie then no one will believe you could have told such an un-truth, and so they'll believe you)---we have the "big truth"...it's…</p>
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				<title>Hebe</title>
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						<p>I revisited the feeling of New Zealand society during the Springbok tour yesterday. </p><p> A family member – educated and socially liberal – and I were comparing notes about our quake insurance “stuff” when we strayed into politics and the chance of a government change and whether it would help our…</p>
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						<p>I revisited the feeling of New Zealand society during the Springbok tour yesterday. </p><p> A family member &mdash; educated and socially liberal &mdash; and I were comparing notes about our quake insurance "stuff" when we strayed into politics and the chance of a government change and whether it would help our…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sept 2014 01:57:51 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Yamis</title>
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						Buy a house.
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				<title>Dismal Soyanz</title>
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						<p><q>Of course the longer it takes, the more cash we’re burning in rent so I guess it’s a trade-off. </q></p><p>Of course the comparison should be rent less interest on your deposit (or whatever equity you put in at the start that is presumably in your bank now) vs mortgage +…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sept 2014 23:59:21 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Yamis</title>
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						<p>2002<br />Labour: 41.26%<br />National: 20.93%<br />NZ First: 10.38%<br />Act: 7.14%<br />Green: 7%<br />UF: 6.69%<br />Prog: 1.70%<br />others 4.89%</p><p>Here’s a fun game.  Look at the current polls with National around 48% and Labour 27%  and shuffle those numbers.</p><p>At the end of it there’s probably about 5-7% sitting in National…</p>
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				<title>izogi</title>
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						<p><q>If house prices actually fell, then there would be a lot of people who bought at the height of the market for their own occupancy rather than for speculation, who will end up with negative equity and feeling pain.</q></p><p>Looking around Wellington (mostly northern/western) as a buyer, there are some…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sept 2014 23:09:24 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>it’s irrelevant</q></p><p>no it isn't.</p><p>Stella is a character.</p>
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						<p>Sorry to hear about Stella.</p><p>As for the words, I momentarily confused two with unfortunately similar sounds.</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q><We now return to normal programming…></q></p><p>Nah Dismal. Our move is at the wishes of t'others Mum really. We wanted to do what was right. We have taken a sabbatical for winter to slob around instead of being puppets in our own land. summer tho' outta Aux. Stell was born in the small st we are…</p>
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				<title>Dismal Soyanz</title>
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						<p><q>Pity ostracism isnt used anymore.</q></p><p>But Ostrichism is alive and well...</p>
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				<title>Dismal Soyanz</title>
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						We have invested so much into housing, as a nation, that a lot of our household wealth is tied up in it, so there is a strong personal incentive for those who have equity tied up in their houses to want to protect it. Engineering a scenario where house prices…
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<q>Yes. Unfortunately I think the best way out of the housing bubble at this point would be for house prices to stay the same in absolute (not relative) terms, but for a bit more than average (recent) inflation to happen. If house prices actually fell, then there would be a…</q>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>But then I don't understand why people support Key in the first place. I guess this is how Tories felt from 1999 &ndash; 2007.</q></p><p>Three famous words from John Steinbeck probably sum it up: <em>temporarily embarrassed millionaires</em>. And later on, his spiritual successor Bruce Springsteen echoed, "poor man wanna be…</p>
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				<title>andin</title>
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						<p><q>And we need, everyone, to shun these people and what they represent.</q><br />Pity ostracism isnt used anymore.</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p>Shyster…</p><p>Respect to the Creator,,,,    ;-)</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sept 2014 21:46:22 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Lucy Telfar Barnard</title>
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						Yes. Unfortunately I think the best way out of the housing bubble at this point would be for house prices to stay the same in absolute (not relative) terms, but for a bit more than average (recent) inflation to happen. If house prices actually fell, then there would be a…
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				<title>izogi</title>
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						<p><q> We could stay on and rent out this house but that puts me in a position to make money from others for no other reason than to take someone’s money.</q></p><p>I don't really care for the housing market as an investment, but we've been looking for our own home for…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sept 2014 21:23:42 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>John Armstrong</title>
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						<p><q>I go anger => sadness => anger => sadness over and over several times a day.</q></p><p>Me too, but am I alone in also experiencing the occasional bout of excitement and  hope? I think that this whole process will ultimately be cleansing (to some degree). As the old saying goes,…</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q>Can we avoid that word, please? </q></p><p>Chris I'm thinking  there is a lot of pissed off people at the mo and if a word is derogatory to some ,it's another meaning to others. I really don't see words as always being anti Semitic. It's really hard to please everyone all…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sept 2014 21:16:25 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>stephen clover</title>
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						<p><q> Shes supposed to have cancer now.</q></p><p>Oh Sophie, so sorry to hear this. :(</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sept 2014 21:14:04 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						Best wishes, Sofie.
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q>I get that Key and his cronies don’t really represent most National party members let alone their voters but that doesn’t excuse giving them power.</q></p><p>Thank you Bart. THIS!!</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						I must add. Stella the dog has a lump. It's a big lump. It's a 6 week old lump. At this point she shows no pain, ignores it. carries on as usual.  She doesn't acknowledge it. I'm stock piling codeine as a palliative care but shes not interested . So…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sept 2014 21:00:02 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>S-L</title>
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						It's plain wrong for them to keep themselves in a little safety bubble. They are somewhat just caring for themselves. I cannot wait to have someone else who cares about the community and contributes in a personal stance. The best leader is one who is willing to get out of…
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q>This is part of the reason I have not been particularly keen to get into the housing market for the last 3 years.</q></p><p>The housing market for me, if I can be of any help, is this. We got a house so landlords couldn't say I can't have my dog.…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sept 2014 20:31:53 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jack Harrison</title>
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						"Decency" is the word of the day. A fine word, and of course the title of this post.
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>Labour is stacking up...</strong><br /><q>At her height Helen Clark got 41% of the vote.</q><br />David Cunliffe looks taller to me, so...<br />that could push them into government!</p><p>I enjoyed Campbell Live's "Pie Graph' Dinner Party format round robin this evening, very civilised and affable.<br />Couldn't easily find the online continuation,…</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>“Shylock” is not a Jewish name</q><br />Does that mean it's been misusurered?<br />or just inappropriated?</p>
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				<title>Jack Harrison</title>
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						<p>New Zealand has an enormous conservative population. Labour is too far for many folk. At her height Helen Clark got 41% of the vote. </p><p>It’s hard to shift voters right voters left.</p>
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				<title>Simon Sjorn</title>
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						Yep. Agree completely with this post. It is so maddening how it seems a significant number of our country men and women seem to have completely ignored the fact that our country is run by gangster politicians or perhaps they just don't care. What does this imply about who we…
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<q>Or they just don’t believe it. If you trust Key, and he keeps saying ‘yes we talk to bloggers’ as if that’s all it amounts to, and ‘left-wing smear campaign’ – maybe that’s all it takes. Seems to be the end of the story for many.The other refrain is ‘I’m…</q>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q>ETA: Damn, this post crossed the page boundary. It’s in reference to the last one on the previous page.</q></p><p>That ,I haven't seen b4 but wondered if it did. <br />I got no understanding how anyone couldn't believe that  all of these revelations are true. But it's so and I shake…</p>
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				<title>Jack Harrison</title>
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						<p>Hath not a Jew eyes? Hath not a Jew hands, organs,<br />dimensions, senses, affections, passions; fed with<br />the same food, hurt with the same weapons, subject<br />to the same diseases, heal'd by the same means,<br />warm'd and cool'd by the same winter and summer<br />as a Christian is? If you…</p>
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				<title>Paul Brown</title>
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						There is a court case going on in the States at the moment where the editor of a sailing site (Sailing Anarchy) is being sued by a yachtowner for calling him a shyster. The owner specializes in student loans at exorbitant rates and has huge debts. Brad Butterwor.th sails for…
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				<title>Murray Hewitt</title>
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						Sorry if someone else has already suggested this, but surely you need look no further than the Greens for social and environmental responsibility.  And a dash of integrity.
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				<title>Jack Harrison</title>
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						<p>Of course. I agree. No argument there.</p><p>I was just thinking on Russell’s post and how painful it must have been.</p>
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				<title>Julie Fairey</title>
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						Someone I know a little bit, who I know is right of centre and is also reasonably politically savvy, started the conversation with me today about how awful "it" all is.  I assumed she meant Dirty Politics, and made a sort of an "oh yes, it's not good is it"…
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						<q>I just saw the way Hanover marketed themselves and even at the time felt sick. To see savings wiped out twice in my lifetime by high flying shells of companies is something to be concerned about. Savings are the backbone of the individuals quality of life in a capitalist market.</q>…
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						<p><q>"(literally “shitter” but also used to refer to deceivers)"</q><br />I think you're saying that if we use "shitter" to describe these people we'll avoid any accidental offense? That's what I'm going to infer until otherwise refuted anyway.</p>
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						<p>Thank you brother, the English language is a sea of old beautiful European terms. England has been invaded a lot. Ian should write the new dictionary. </p><p>I just saw the way Hanover marketed themselves and even at the time felt sick. To see savings wiped out twice in my lifetime…</p>
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						<p><q> the Oxford English Dictionary describes it as “of obscure origin”, possibly deriving from a historical sense of “shy” meaning disreputable. </q></p><p>It's entirely likely that Shakespeare named his character "Shy-lock" and not "Abraham" or Isaac for precisely that reason. A <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shylock#Name" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Wikipedia</a> says:</p><p><q>"Shylock" is not a Jewish name, nor is it…</q></p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shyster" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> <strong>Shyster</strong></a> – homophonia?<br /><q> It’s caused enough trouble already this election.</q><br />Chris, you are thinking of that Venetian Merchant chappie <br />the Bard devised…<br /><q>A shyster is a slang word for someone who acts in a disreputable, unethical, or unscrupulous way, especially in the practice of law, politics or business.</p><p>The…</q></p>
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						You're right, I suspect. It was a very similar-sounding word of Shakespearean origin that caused the earlier bother, wasn't it? Sorry.
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						<q>an we avoid that word, please? It's caused enough trouble already this election. First time round I found it very hard to believe that anybody would not have known it's an anti-semitic slur, it caused enough fuss back then I don't see how anybody has any excuse to be using…</q>
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				<title>Richard Aston</title>
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						<p><q>There is definitely some interesting psychology going on.</q></p><p>You bet ! <br />Willful ignorance and denial have been part of the human story forever. <br />Fear turns our eyes away from abuse and dis-ease<br />As Bruce Springsteen <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&amp;v=cG8ZQkeZvzc" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">sang</a> <br />Fear, its a powerful thing. It will turn heart black you can trust</p>
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						<p><q>the obvious shyster</q></p><p>Can we avoid that word, please? It's caused enough trouble already this election. First time round I found it very hard to believe that anybody would not have known it's an anti-semitic slur, it caused enough fuss back then I don't see how anybody has any excuse…</p>
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						<p><q>You don’t think the sudden talk of $10, no $20 or no- maybe $30 a week! tax cut! and for the plebs! is a coincidence?<br />A few months back, English said tax cuts were unlikely, and if they did happen, would be small.<br />Now there’s a billion or several being…</q></p>
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						<p><q>they could also be saying that they’re resigned to it.</q></p><p>Aye that they could. But being resigned to having your party corrupted by some seriously selfish individuals isn't all that flash a position either.</p><p>I get that Key and his cronies don't really represent most National party members let alone…</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p><q>Do you have a recipe that serves 4 million?</q><br />Why yes I do.<br /> First peel 4 million onions, watch the people cry.<br />On the kauri log thing, I mentioned that months back and was ignored.....<br />Ignored I tell you. :-[</p>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						<p><q>If National’s internal polling matches this (and Collins’ falling on her sword suggests it does) Key might have to widen the scope of the inquiry to be seen to be doing something.</q><br />You don’t think the sudden talk of $10, no $20 or no- maybe $30 a week! tax cut!…</p>
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						<p><q>National (45%) down after ‘Dirty Politics’ revelations</q></p><p>If National's internal polling matches this (and Collins' falling on her sword suggests it does) Key might have to widen the scope of the inquiry to be seen to be doing something.</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>When justice is served...</q><br />Do you have a recipe that serves 4 million?</p><p><aside> <br />I hadn't realised that Judith Collins' husband's company, Oravida, is also donkey deep in exporting rare swamp kauri logs...</p><p><a href="http://podcast.radionz.co.nz/mnr/mnr-20140903-0849-group_says_mpi_turning_blind_eye_to_illegal_kauri_exports-048.mp3" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">listen to mp3 here</a></p><p>read <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/northern-advocate/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503450&amp;objectid=11052197" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">here</a></p>
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				<title>Jack Harrison</title>
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						<p>Hanover sponsored the state news. The ad was read by trusted state newsman <br />Richard Long. The ads main selling point was Hanover had been around for a long time and weathered all economic conditions. </p><p>Hanover is now just another example of our poor/incompetent/corrupt financial capitalism. National will never be able…</p>
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						<p><q>Or they just don’t believe it.<br />If you trust Key, and he keeps saying ‘yes we talk to bloggers’ as if that’s all it amounts to, and ‘left-wing smear campaign’ – maybe that’s all it takes. Seems to be the end of the story for many.<br />The other refrain is…</q></p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>...christ he’s boring</q><br />I thought it a bit rich when <br />Bishop called Hager 'pious'...</p>
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				<title>CJM</title>
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						<p>Dita de Boni trying valiantly to prick the inane 'balanced' don't-rock-the-boat ethos over at RNZ on the panel today. She's a lonely voice at the Herald and I have quite a bit of respect for her.<br /> John Bishop blathering on and on with the same tired mantra about the Hager…</p>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						<p><q>A little 2007 history, as the post-87 stock market controls basically worked, the crooks all fled to the private finance industry.</q><br />Classic.</p>
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				<title>A C Young</title>
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						<p><q>Cambell Live running stories about the dairy boom? Sell the farm. Wall-to-wall adds for great returns on investment? Divest. Waiter at lunch chatting about the stock market? Sell your stocks. Newspaper article about a company's bright future? It will crash.</q></p><p>This is part of the reason I have not been…</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p><q>Is there a stage when you move past anger to sadness?</q><br />Yes, when justice is served. Even though people are guilty of horrendous things it is sad to see them go down, they could have been good people in different circumstances.</p>
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				<title>tussock</title>
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						<p><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&amp;objectid=10421329" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&amp;objectid=10421329</a></p><p>A little 2007 history, as the post-87 stock market controls basically worked, the crooks all fled to the private finance industry. As a broad hint, when "everyone knows" how good some investment or another is, <strong>sell it</strong>. Faith and promise is absolutely lethal.</p><p>Cambell Live running stories about the…</p>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						<p><q>Labour (26%) also loses support</q><br />I'm bloody close to (returning to) voting Labour. The one thing that sticks in my craw? Labour's pledge to get rid of the 'coat-tailing' provision. <br />I know it's unpopular. I'd prefer a much lower (2% or less) threshold &ndash; swap 'coat-tailing' for that, any day.…</p>
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						<p><a href="http://www.electionresults.co.nz/roy-morgan-poll-september-3" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">New Roy Morgan poll</a></p><p><q>National (45%) down after ‘Dirty Politics’ revelations, but Labour (26%) also loses support while Greens surge to 16% – highest since April 2012. Conservative Party at record high 3.5%</p><p>Today’s New Zealand Roy Morgan Poll shows a sharp decline in support for National (45%, down 3%)…</q></p>
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				<title>Konrad Kurta</title>
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						A close family member lost most of her retirement savings in Hanover. To think that as she was staring down the barrel of an extra ten years at work, these guys were trying to undermine an investigation into how it happened... To say it makes my blood boil doesn't really…
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						<p><q>they could also be saying that they’re resigned to it.</q><br />Or they just don't believe it. <br />If you trust Key, and he keeps saying 'yes we talk to bloggers' as if that's all it amounts to, and 'left-wing smear campaign' &ndash; maybe that's all it takes. Seems to be the…</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>But I’d be a whole lot more happy about it than National getting in again.</q><br />And that's the 'nub' of it!</p><p>I'm happy with 'Factory settings' until someone finds the manual and gets it properly tuned again.</p>
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						<p>Katherine Rich was on Nigel Latta's investigation into sugar on TV1 last night. Familiar lines now &ndash; attack the international academic expert, and then put it all down to individual responsibility and choice. </p><p>(It was the first of the Latta series I have seen and I was quite impressed although…</p>
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						I'm personally resigned to the fact that even if National were toppled from power in a few weeks that this will still be a land of pointless drug prohibition, and crippling student debt, and that won't change any time soon under Labour. I'm not happy about it. But I'd be…
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						<p><q>Anyone who votes for these people after the disclosures of the last month is saying they are happy to be represented by corrupt selfish politicians.</q></p><p>Well, they could also be saying that they're resigned to it. That's not the same as happy. They might see it as not at the…</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q> I have no idea what their plan is</q></p><p>Yes you do. You just can't face how awful it is. </p><p>Key and the senior National party leaders around him have decided leading the country is a waste of their time and talents. Instead they have gained power and then used their…</p>
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				<title>bob daktari</title>
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						<p>watching the first leaders debate and Mr Key kept talking about their "plan", yet after nearly six years of them ruling (I don't think they govern) I have no idea what their plan is, nor is there any evidence of it</p><p>When I see policy released I check the blogs…</p>
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				<title>stephen clover</title>
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						<p><q>Is there a stage when you move past anger to sadness?</q></p><p>I go anger => sadness => anger => sadness over and over several times a day. Good to stay at anger as much as poss, I reckon, though fear burning out, hands flailing, walking away.</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>and possibly its never been easier to find parties polices – generally hidden somewhere on the parties website</q></p><p>Yes, that's what I meant. I don't even listen to announcements, any more than I wait for people to tell me the meaning of random words, rather than looking them up in…</p>
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				<title>Lynne Hertnon</title>
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						<p>Thank you for posting.</p><p>My overall view point of this saga is that there needs to be a full investigation into all matters.I believe the people of New Zealand deserve the matter to be investigated and have signed the following petition... You may choose to do so as well.<br /><a href="http://www.avaaz.org/en/petition/Governor_General_of_New_Zealand_Investigate_all_the_allegations_of_corruption_in_the_National_government/?tnaudab" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.avaaz.org/en/petition/Governor_General_of_New_Zealand_Investigate_all_the_allegations_of_corruption_in_the_National_government/?tnaudab</a>…</p>
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				<title>Carol Stewart</title>
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						<p><q>Is there a stage when you move past anger to sadness?</q><br />I think quite a few are still stuck at the denial stage.</p>
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				<title>Bill Eaton</title>
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						<p>For a concise view from somewhere outside the madhouse, I suggest this:</p><p><a href="http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/09/new-zealand-crooks-buddies-whaleoil-bounced-chief-serious-fraud-office.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/09/new-zealand-crooks-buddies-whaleoil-bounced-chief-serious-fraud-office.html</a></p><p>The sheer number of champagne stories in the NZ Herald is a worry.</p>
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				<title>Richard Aston</title>
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						<p><q>Is there a stage when you move past anger to sadness?</q><br />Skipped sadness went straight to despair , when will voters get the extent and dark depths of this shit?</p>
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				<title>Luke Williamson</title>
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						One of the strong feelings I had after reading Dirty Politics was how poorly served we are by the mainstream media. It has been an interesting week in our household as my wife got into political debate with true-blue faction at the local community art centre, and was told that…
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				<title>bob daktari</title>
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						<p>totally agree with you Ben</p><p><q> I've never had so much information about the actual policy of major parties before</q></p><p>and possibly its never been easier to find parties polices &ndash; generally hidden somewhere on the parties website</p><p>The debates and election seem to be treated like a badly run sports…</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						Thanks for the extended stuff, Russell. I did like Miller's point about the policy being actually quite well covered this time. It's a feeling I've had too, that I've never had so much information about the actual policy of major parties before. It's meant I find leader's debates and announcements…
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<q>I thought Matt showed great honesty and ethical spine in personally apologising to Feeley for using Slater’s attack lines against him. I’m happy enough with what Fran has written too, and of course Fish. Bernard Hickey this week greeted the news that Oders et al discussed targeting him as a…</q>
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				<title>Graham Dunster</title>
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						We need to accept that we are not the clean country that we like to think we are. The pursuit of money and disinterest in our fellow citizens (and guests) has lead us here, with the natural wonders of the country being steadily and obviously degraded in front of us.…
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						<p><q>I am getting a really nauseous feeling from knowing that the PM and senior Minister of the country are standing up and lying to my face. I’m not so naive that I don’t expect partisan politicking, but this is just awful.</q><br />Me too. Is there a stage when you move…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<a href="http://wikisend.com/download/519750/Katherine%20Rich.zip" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">The latest Whaledump</a> covers the Food and Grocery Council stuff, implicating Katherine Rich.
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				<title>Ianmac</title>
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						<p>Thanks Simon. Listened to Sean Hughes. <br />I think that this question and all the others alleging Dirty Tricks, are so huge and so beyond our trust as citizens, that even National supporters are bewildered. How do we ordinary folk express our concern? The leadership for investigation and exposure and correction…</p>
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				<title>Steve Curtis</title>
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						<p><q> head of the FMA says he quit, in part because of the attacks on him and his office.</q></p><p>Thats not quite the ( instant) narrative we heard from the SSC and Collins after her resignation/sacking</p>
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				<title>Luke Williamson</title>
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						I know this seems overly simplistic and obvious, but I am getting a really nauseous feeling from knowing that the PM and senior Minister of the country are standing up and lying to my face. I’m not so naive that I don’t expect partisan politicking, but this is just awful.…
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>We also need media outlets, and their proprietors, to be doing a serious and very public examination of conscience. Because media corporate brands have a lot of their value in intangibles like credibility and authority which aren't enhanced by "defamation for hire".</q></p><p>I thought Matt showed great honesty and ethical…</p>
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				<title>simon g</title>
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						<p>If anyone has ten minutes to spare, I strongly recommend this interview with Sean Hughes. It has been largely overlooked by other media, perhaps because he is so restrained and measured instead of confrontational &ndash; but it's compelling evidence.</p><p>In short, the head of the FMA says he quit, in…</p>
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				<title>Johnny Canuck</title>
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						Justice Binnie (Rt'd) from Canada could be just the guy.
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				<title>Myles Thomas</title>
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						<p>It seems that everyone close to bearing some responsibility is in total denial, with the exception of David Fisher. Typical of the whole dirty business, politics and media gamesters to dish dirt without any selfawareness or ethics. </p><p>Reporters and news media need to be careful because if they can't be…</p>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p>I wonder how many media outlets feared the loss of advertising revenue if they learned too much about Hanover? "<a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&amp;objectid=10774506" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">This One Weather update is brought to you by Hanover, a New Zealand business with the size and strength to withstand any conditions.</a>"</p><p>If there’s a Royal Commission to look into all…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<q>I know there are people within the National Party who care about this. One told me yesterday he believed that the “defamation for hire” business being conducted wiped tens of millions of dollars off the value of corporate brands. We need to know what was done and how far it…</q>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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