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				<title>Sam F</title>
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						Stereoscopic commenting &ndash; turn your head to one side and squint a bit and suddenly the point seems to jump right out in your face.
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						Repeating yourself Craig? Making a points ? ;)
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>OT a bit but this has got to be the laziest journalism I have read today.Taken straight from Labour Party Blog. 8 paragraphs lifted (although aknowledged) then that's it. Herald story.</p></blockquote><p>Indeed &mdash; but you've got to savour the multiple levels of irony given the source (Trevor Mallard) and the…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>OT a bit but this has got to be the laziest journalism I have read today.Taken straight from Labour Party Blog. 8 paragraphs lifted (although aknowledged) then that's it. Herald story.</p></blockquote><p>Indeed &mdash; but you've got to savour the multiple levels of irony given the source (Trevor Mallard) and the…</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						OT a bit but <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&amp;objectid=10652430" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this</a> has got to be the laziest journalism I have read today.Taken straight from Labour Party Blog. 8 paragraphs lifted (although aknowledged) then that's it. Herald story.
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				<title>Jeremy Eade</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I fail to see how the frontiers of human knowledge were expanded by Jeremy Paxman infamous baiting of Michael Howard by asking the same question twelve times in succession</p></blockquote><p>That's exactly how I saw it brother, you are not there to torture your guest, you reason with them.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 22:12:33 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>If the great and good discover that they can avoid answering any question by simply ignoring it, we're poorly served.</p></blockquote><p>And while it was vastly entertaining, I fail to see how the frontiers of human knowledge were expanded by Jeremy Paxman infamous baiting of Michael Howard by asking the same…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 22:07:41 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jeremy Eade</title>
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						<p>I just started listening to National Radio, I flip and it's in my flip zone now a lot because there is a lot of interesting stuff...</p><p>But Morning Report sounds weird, sounds snotty.</p><p>" a one word answer, are you going to win the christchurch mayoralty?"</p><p>That was a question…</p>
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				<title>ScottY</title>
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						<p>Plunket's a fine interviewer, generally, and he has a doggedness that one needs when dealing with mealymouthed politicians. Wilson has it too, and would be a fine replacement, if only for the fact that I quite like her just where she is.</p><p>A few politicians will be breathing a sigh…</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						I've just caught up with Plunkett's interview with Len Brown this morning and have noted <a href="http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,2540,hard-news-the-disingenuous-press.sm?p=169860#post169860" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">on t'other thread</a> (along with audio link) that his persistence seems to have paid off this time.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 20:03:52 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote>Sure &mdash; but let's be honest, when does repeating the same question over and over stop being about journalism and become all about hyping up the drama and the interviewer's ego? Far too often where WIlson and Plunket are concerned but quite fair enough if your tolerance is higher than…</blockquote>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Jooooooooooooooin usssssssssss</p></blockquote><p>Oh, ok then, I'll watch tonight's game.</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm a fan. She generally asks the right questions, and sometimes it is necessary for an interviewer to repeatedly ask a question that's not being answered.</p></blockquote><p>Sure &mdash; but let's be honest, when does repeating the same question over and over stop being about journalism and become all about hyping…</p>
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				<title>Jeremy Eade</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Sounds like a bloody awful job to me.</p></blockquote><p>Forget Morning Report, just tell the politicians to log in at the pa system, we'll ask good questions and be nice (ish).</p>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						Join us, Sacha. Jooooooooooooooin usssssssssss...
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Aargh, this has turned into a sports thread too
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<blockquote><p>To me I confess the early stage is always the most exciting part. Everyone's in it, you get to discover new players and often to watch the best football.</p></blockquote><p>South Korea played the most interesting football I've seen in this tournament so far. Precise, lightfooted, and assured.</p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						That seems a pretty sure way of tuning out New Zealand's participation in the cup. To me I confess the early stage is always the most exciting part. Everyone's in it, you get to discover new players and often to watch the best football.
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				<title>Raymond A Francis</title>
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						<p>I like Mary too but then I like stroppy women<br />She has a way of just boring into the truth as does Sean<br />We need these people asking the hard questions for us</p><p>And yes you are correct Sacha; a month of football or even rugby is way too much…</p>
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				<title>Kim Sokolich</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I like her too. And I can't think of anyone else. <br />But if she's that grumpy at 5pm, at 6am she'll be strangling puppies and electrocuting bunnies between questions :)</p></blockquote><p>ROFL</p><p>Whilst I take Russell's point that she's good a repeatedly asking the question, sometimes they have already answered the…</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But if she's that grumpy at 5pm, at 6am she'll be strangling puppies and electrocuting bunnies between questions :)</p></blockquote><p>As long as some of the more difficult interviewees know this before they take the air, I don't see what the problem is (except for the puppies and bunnies obviously).</p>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Yes, Wilson would be the perfect replacement for Plunket were it not for the fact that she's needed where she is.</p></blockquote><p>I like her too. And I can't think of anyone else. <br />But if she's that grumpy at 5pm, at 6am she'll be strangling puppies and electrocuting bunnies between questions…</p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						Yes, Wilson would be the perfect replacement for Plunket were it not for the fact that she's needed where she is.
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>(Though I'm sure Checkpoint's Mary Wilson is going to continue the fine tradition of playing merry hell with my blood pressure with leading questions, editorialising and feral cluelessness where she doesn't get that barking the same question half-a-dozen times isn't going to elicit the desired response.)</p></blockquote><p>I'm a fan. She…</p>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Might be good to have a stroppy woman there for a change.</p></blockquote><p>Kim Hill or Kath Ryan are the most obvious candidates.<br />Linda Clark is now with a law firm. Maggie Barry's about as hardline as Geoff Robinson.</p>
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				<title>BlairMacca</title>
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						While I hate Plunkett's badgering sometimes, he is one of the only interviewers in NZ who can hold politicians to task.  Hence why John Key refuses to be interviewed on Morning report
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						<p>I agree with you, Craig.  I think they need to find a a replacement Good Sean as Geoff Robinson is often just too Mr Softy-Pants.   Might be good to have a stroppy woman there for a change.</p><p>Oh, will this end-of-semester essay marking ever end...!!!</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						It's possible for pollies to both misbehave and be smeared at the same time. I too welcome more topics more often &ndash; and I take it you're not a football fanatic either, Raymond.
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				<title>Raymond A Francis</title>
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						<p>Thank goodness a new post that gives us something new to talk about other than " hands caught in the jam jar" pollies</p><p>Or to take a meme common here "clean cut pollies who are being smeared" but have trouble remembering their own credit cards when they leave home</p><p>I…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Oh, really! Who is he off to bully and badger now?</p></blockquote><p>Well, Geoff, I've often said there's two Plunkets.  The 'Too Much Coffee Too Early In The Morning' One who does "bully and badger" until I want to stick a pencil in my ears to make the pain stop.  (Though…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>There are times when I want to strangle him for his sheer utter quasi-marxoid fundamentalism and sectarianism. When you think about it, who better than to have as a 'left' commentator in a business periodical? Damn, I miss Bruce Jesson...</p></blockquote><p>Am I not the only one to be reminded of…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						Sounds like a bloody awful job to me.
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Sean Plunkett's just resigned from RNZ.</p></blockquote><p>Oh, really! Who is he off to bully and badger now?</p><p>There is that R. Brown fellow who could do great things on Morning Report.</p>
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				<title>Craig Young</title>
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						<p>For once, I tend to agree with my namesake. Trotter is to the New Zealand left what the doddering entourage of Daily Telegraph sock con hacks who attack the Cameron administration are to the UK centre-right. He's strategically challenged and clueless.</p><p> There are times when I want to strangle him…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Chris Trotter, whose politics were rather different to those of the editors, was a longtime columnist.</p></blockquote><p>And who couldn't love Trotter's terse reply to being asked why he was sleeping with the enemy: "They pay well, and I'm allowed to write what I want."  Still, having flicked through his Indie…</p>
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				<title>Grant McDougall</title>
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						Sean Plunkett's just resigned from RNZ. It'll be interesting to see who replaces him on <em>Morning Report.</em>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 11:24:11 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>ChrisW</title>
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						<blockquote><p>In the end its death was its depence on the scarce ad dollar.</p></blockquote><p>But surely, look after depence, ad dollars look after themselves?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 11:12:06 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jeremy Eade</title>
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						<p>In the end its death was its depence on the scarce ad dollar. </p><p>Berryman sounds like a fascinating guy.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 11:00:34 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<p>It's a pity the valedictory editorial wasn't edited.</p><p>The verb form of injunction is enjoin.<br />[a point I made way back <a href="http://publicaddress.net/default,3727.sm#post3727" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">here</a> :-) ]</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 10:49:51 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Public Address</title>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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